Fellow tarnished bros, you look everywhere but forget to look right in your inventory. The tool to access the DLC has been with us from the beginning. The SPIRIT CALLING BELL. Given by Ranni, it was entrusted to her by: TORRENTS FORMER MASTER. Aka Miquella, as evident on the poster for DLC. Whenever we try to unsummon a spirit, it says the spirit will be sent back to the world Beyond. What if this is the DLCs location. It's where we see Miquella and TORRENT IN THE FLESH, not as a spectral steed, as evident in the poster. So there you have it.
Honestly, based on how Elden Ring works - I think it could actually be a mix of some or all of these options. Different possible entrances to different areas in the new DLC space.
taking the leaks with giant spoons of salt, if the DLC is indeed un "upside down" version of the lands between, it would make a lot of sense to have multiple entrances throughout the world
My thoughts on Miquella's egg being the access point. They patched Varre's quest so that you can get the pureblood knight medal without being online by killing Magnus in the Altus plateau. Not only that, but Varre's and the medal says that "it's not the time to answer the call yet, but be patient, it will come soon", which maybe means that once the DLC is released, the text on the item will change to explain the time has come and if we use the Pure knight medal to access Moghwyn palace, Mogh will not be hostile and ask us to retrieve Miquella from his dream. And even if we missed varré and his quest, the DLC would still be accessible through the consecrated snowfields, so it wouldn't even be locked away by a quest.
I 50% agree in that Miquella's egg is the most likely access point, but I don't think they'd retroactively make Mohg non-hostile like that, or give us the option. I think we will defeat him no matter what, especially considering he is basically the most evil person in the game. That platform behind Miquella's egg especially really seems obvious imo
I like this idea. They could have two endings to, where we help Miquella and get the bountiful ending. Or we help the blood mother and have the lord of blood ending.
@@kirkginoabolafia3650 I didn't meant it as making him good. Meant it as he will send us to retrieve Miquella and we will eventually betray him and save Miquella
I expect it to be the St Trina hideaway or Godwyn's corpse. Miquella's hand and Malenia's boss room are both areas you are intended to reach in the endgame. Something no other DLC has done, besides the Ringed City, which was the 2nd one for its game anyway
considering how large the DLC might be at some point there could be the option of there being multiple entrances to multiple different (but perhaps connected) DLC areas also, while Mohg is definitely intended to be a late game boss he's accessible as potentially your second shardbearer meaning that you can reach and defeat him before even being able to enter Leyndell. since the DLCs are usually the most difficult parts of their games (often being harder than the end-game) I'd say that locking the DLC behind a challenge intended for the end-game (though accessible much earlier on) honestly feels ideal. they even updated Varre's questline so that it'd be possible to complete it without ever going online (it just requires invading and killing an NPC on Altus Plateau) which makes accessing Mohg (and by extention Miquella's hand) even easier.
I'm with you. Think of DS3, where you just walk into a room about halfway thru the campaign and Gael is there to teleport you BUT there's a message in the Painted World that encourages you to complete Lothric Castle before continuing. I figure they'll do something sort of like that.
I’m pretty confident it will add an interaction with miquella’s hands, but it might be something you do after beating the DLC. I do think the entrance should be in Mohg’s domain though. It has the unique status of being a late game area you can reach without taking on a single boss.
@@cromptank That's false. You need to kill a shardbearer, then complete Varre's quest. Also, Mohg is literally there. That makes at least 2 bosses you need to kill.
Elden Ring seems to be a bit more new-player friendly and accessible. I wouldn't be surprised if a new NPC arrives in Roundtable Hold, and then we get a red marker on our map, or some kind of quest to access it.
@@HeevaEgo you're forgetting about replayability, no one wants to do a convoluted puzzle everytime they do a playthrough, like having to kill the hydra and get the item to enter the dlc in ds1 every time, its tedious after the first time. I highly doubt it will be a puzzle, especially because of all the new fans/players elden ring has compared to other games.
@@BlastyGamesTV I do agree with this. But I hope the entrance method is between the Difficulty of Dark Souls 1 dlc entrance and the trivialisation of the Dark Souls 3 dlc entrance Besides, considering how much content in Elden Ring is already completely hidden/tucked from the player (e.g - Dragonlord fight, Fortisax, Consecrated Snowfeild and Haligtree, underground maps), I’m fairly confident that there are at least SOME hoops to the dlc As I’ve said before, I want the entrance to be a little convoluted but I’m 100% expecting a simplified entrance like the Old Hunters DLC but it won’t be the end of the world for me lol😅
There is another option. Crafting is a major mechanic in the game, and Miquella already has two uncommon items associated with him, one of which is known to cause sleep. So the entrance to the dlc might be locked behind a consumable. Keep in mind that another of Miquella’s lore items, his needle, is also a consumable item. We might be given a new cookbook in, say, the Roundtable Hold’s library or servant quarters (where the Cipher Pata is) that gives us a recipe for mystical LSD which uses the lilies. This would already require a good deal of progress from players, as well as exploration to find the materials. They could even provide a simple map to lead us to a third ingredient, if Fromsoftware wanted to especially gatekeep the dlc.
@@thegreenmed From "never used it" to "quite useless". Man, that's a pretty hasty jump. Crafting was a new and major mechanic for the Souls formula. That's just a fact.
I cannot imagine the only DLC entrance being behind such difficult bosses. Now there could be multiple entrances which would be really interesting. You could have one where it is the 'main' entrance or the intended path in the Dynasty at the cocoon but also have an entrance somewhere else. I honestly believe that the entrance to the DLC will be in the Round Table Hold. I think when you beat the boss on the lower floor one of the doors will be able to be opened. Using the Ruined Manor in Leyndell as the base I think the path you'd take to get to the Divine Bridge is where the entrance will be, its the area with the Virgins and Stormhawk Axe. I'm sure that might be the hub area for any future DLC. Honestly at this point I just pray that the DLC will be for all versions and not just the new gen consoles.
The large grave by the sea at Castle Morne, where the leonine misbegotten rests with the grafted ultra. Calling it now. Also, the idea of a "skill check" is a bit dubious, because said "skill check" could be the very first boss you fight upon arriving at the area, if not every immediate mob. This is a Souls game, not Monster Hunter. Just consider earlier games. Take DS3 and Ariandel. It's relatively easy to arrive there, but it's a different thing to fight and beat Friede to then enter the Dreg Heap. We can be allowed to enter the DLC only to be ruthlessly punished if we have no dmg and no hp. Another example is Old Hunters. Go ahead and beat Amelia, sure, and then get into the Hunter's Nightmare and feel the heat. There is no reason for the DLC to be tied to mid/endgame areas, like at all.
I really like the way you considered both the story and the gameplay with these options, and not just one or the other. And I think you made really great points in terms of both!
I think it's important to consider that the DS3 Ringed City DLC had it's entrance literally placed right before the last boss so I don't know that we should discount placement not caring about level or progression.
Yeah but the Ringed City is not only very tough but story/lore wise you should go through the entire game for it to make some sense. Heck you should complete nearly the entire trilogy since it references characters and places from DS1 and DS2. You literally travel to the end of the world. So I wonder how this expansion will fit into the story but if you ask me I think there is a chance that Shadow of the Erdtree will not take place in the past but rather in the future .
This DLC may be less of a traditional harder near or at endgame zone, but instead a massive area expansion which functions closer to Sekiro's Hirata Estate, where we are expected to return to the zone throughout the game. (Not a transforming zone, but just a massive section like Caelid or Liurnia with multiple distinct zones of different challenge level)
Two cents: I wonder if Miquella's ring or his greatrune prevented him from being corrupted by Mohg despite his obvious change in physical appearance. Leaving his mind and spirit intact.
The dlc entrance will probably be either via jumping off the broken bridge behind mohgs boss arena or miquella's hand. Mainly because well theres no real reason to go to mohgs area. It also wont be a dream rather a spirit world Also it makes sense for it to be in mohgs area because we can get there as soon as the lakes due to varre
I’ve kinda given up on dlc and if we get nothing by the February then I would be shocked if it ever came out. All they have to do is officially say something, another picture even and I’m back on the hook
I believe it will be in the consecrated snow fields. Somewhere between Blade of Calling and the black gargoyle. The red grace will light the way. I also believe having the Helphen's Steeple could add a bonus to the side quest I suppose.
I think an amazing way to set the difficulty of the DLC would be to make an entirely new boss who gate-keeps the access. This boss could be REALLY hard which would allow it to be placed anywhere in the game, following the open-world theme of ER; you could access the DLC at any point, but doing it early on is just REALLY HARD.
I think it will be behind Mohg or somewhere close to him. With the updates they made to Vares quest so you can even do it offline so you can access the area
Yeah I think people forget you can access it that way thus meaning it’s possible to start the quest as early as defeating Godrick. So while the portal to Mogh is late game, access to the area is not entirely locked behind that
I’m like 99% sure it’s gonna be godricks throne room it’s super early but it’s the only combat locked area I’ve found and it’s almost completely empty for being such a large room
Theres 2 unique obducter virgins in the game, one in redmanecastle and one in gelmir, i feel like those might have to grab you, like the one in raya lukaria that transports you to volcano manor. And then you will get to the dlc (like the amygdala in bloodborne)
Of these options I woould go for St Trina's hideaway if the DLC is more dreams oriented. if its more time travel I would go for the minor erdtree chapel. I don't think the "being too easy for players to access is not really an issue as the old hunters DLC entrance is really early on. and the painted world in DS3 is also found very early if you go the intended path
I find the area behind Mohg's arena very weird. there's some sort of balcony there with no purpose at all, which is closed during the fight, with 2 fog walls. I kept coming back there while progressing the game to see if something happened, on my first play through
Yeah I believe that they wanted to do _something_ with that area. I remember doing gestures, changing the time and looking for invisible paths because it just seems like there was “progression” there
I suspect that there will be multiple entrance points for the DLC, because it could be similar to DS2's DLC: Maybe Cocoon of the Empyrean, Haligtree Roots and the hidden spot in Altus each grant access to different parts of it.
I just thought of something; how dope would it be if we got a fifth talisman pouch and either a new wondrous physick flask that holds 3 tears at like a 5 to 15% reduction in efficacy or duration or a new flask that only holds one tear but enhances its effects or duration. Especially if you could the vanilla and the dlc flasks both
@andyinthebasment7394 that's why i hope we get that in dlc then they could ad like 20 weapons and spells or whatever and it would still be so much more opportunities for different builds
I genuinely think it'll be somewhere totally unexpected and easily accessible from the early game. Wouldn't be surprised if a random ghost boat appeared on a beach in Limgrave or something. Lots of people will have entered NG+ and not gotten far, so it makes sense that it'd be accessible from the beginning.
my uncle works for FromSoft, the DLC entrance is going to be a random waygate in the Lake of Rot that requires killing three Ulcerated Tree Spirits to activate
I’m expecting the access point will be in Lyndell Capitol. Somewhere in the castle. That’s about a point that teeters on end game and put people at a comfortable rune level to start the dlc. My guess anyway
It’s definitely the hand of Miquella. Mohg’s domain felt tucked away and it always felt like there should be something more to that area after beating Mohg
I hope they bring some Godwyn into the dlc to better explain the Wormfaces. I thought I understood they were tainted tree sentinels, but the group in Farum Azula kind of breaks that. I’m thinking they were around before the rune of death was removed, rather than as a result of Godwyn’s cursed body. Similar to the kindred of rot worshipping the scorpion dagger, which was a relic of the god of rot from an ancient religion well before the Marika’s rule and the shattering
One thing I would like to see is depending on what ending you pick a different part of the dlc you will be telepored to or can enter to, I think that would be a really cool idea
I feel like it will began with/at Miquella "Egg"... the one wrinkle I'm hoping for is if Miquella is an actual boss we fight, I hope there is a whole different cutscene if we kill Melania before fighting him then if we don't.
Miquella may be 3 stage. Unalloyed, St. Trina, and finally God of Blood. Either he or Godwyn will be one of the hardest fights FromSoftware has created. Either the fiercest Empyrean or the perfect Lord.
It’s a soft game, NPC either stand around doing nothing being worthless or they run start at you to kill you. In ten years they made three expectations, so after tens of thousands of mob why would we ever think we’re not gonna dps spawn them for xp.
First point: I find it really weird that I never see the volcano manor lava lake coffin ever mentioned in these descussions, i know there are a lot of open coffins in this game but go check it out, if that coffin isn't placed specifically to be a lava lake flume ride, then they are doing a very bad job at making it not look significant. Second point: I personally believe that the game won't have any one enterance point and will likely be a consitent experience throughout the playthrough, probably with some new NPCs scattered throughout the map, possibly giving the player new interactions with the sharbearers or characters surrounding them in the lore and while I do believe there will be new areas added to the game I'm envisioning a multi emterance kind of deal spread throughout the main experience kind of like the siofra and ainsel underground segments which would approach the skill check issue in a smart way because they could spread the content accross multiple early/mid/endgame milestones. Considering that this game is FS's first open world game it seems more appropriate to make the DLC an expansion of their open world formula rather than their traditonal late game area approach to DLC.
Im guessing its going to be a late/endgame area kinda parallel to the Haligtree in progress. Im guessing through Mohg, hence why they updated his quest to get to him more toward midgame.
Personally, I’ve thought Miquella’s hand to be the most obvious choice. The Cocoon of the Empyrean. In cut content you could change the ring in his hand for another one. As well as collecting dream mist.
I always liked how they would use a very obscure thing they had in the base game, like when you break the crystal golems to get the characters out, then for dlc you break a golem to get the pendant, then for bloodborne you had an item that if you possessed it while getting grabbed by an amygdala you got transported to the nightmare frontier, and the dlc had a similar way, technically even ds 3 referenced the way you entered the painting in ds 1, for elden ring, i guess im wondering if theyll redo the wau you fight placidusax, like use that time travel tornado thing. It was just so like a one time thing, so it felt like they would revisit that
It worries me that FromSoftware will not allow entrance to the DLC if you have already fully completed the game, I really don't want the DLC to come out and then I have to start a new game to level up and collect everything again. I put 120 hours into my first gameplay and haven't started a NG+. A part of me hopes the DLC is a seperate game menu that resets your character so everybody gets to play it on an equal term rather than being too overpowered or underpowered
That sounds like the worst possible way to introduce the dlc. Dlc separated from the main game as a main menu option is lame, resetting the characters is even worst. What has made fromsofts dlcs so special is that they organically fit into the main game and you can use all your equipment and build ideas to face the increased challenges, and also getting new weapons and spells from the dlc to use in the main game is fantastic. That's why so much people are make theories about the possible entrance and its implications for the lore. Removing all of that just for "convenience" would be the worst mistake ever made. Also, you would probably be able to do the dlc just fine, even if you finished the main game, just like you can kill Radagon and the Elden beast and then go to the Haligtree or Mohgwyn Palace and fight Malenia or Mohg. Maybe there would be some new cutscenes or dialogs in the main game affected by the dlc progression, but nothing that will lock you out of most of the new content.
My theory is that there will 100% be a point of the DLC after you defeat the real Mogh for 2 reasons: This boss can litteraly be the third one you encounter if you do right things. Varré can appear after killing Godrick and if you know the game killing Godrick can be done in like 15 minutes in NG+X. So you have access to Varré quest right after. And after some invasions you have a direct access to Mogh palace. It can be done offline but you have to go to Alteus Plateau, and once again if you know the game it can be quick. Also as we all know DLC bosses are always some of the hardest. So if you don't have the level to kill Mogh then you will get obliterate. So it's an easy and quick access to the DLC + a treshold Then if you look at all the site of grace there is almost always something to do with them even after killing the boss. The only useless site of grave are the one to the south after killing the Misbegotten and the one under Liurnia after killing the Dragonkin soldier. All the others have something like a questline or a secret little area (Maliketh site is useless too but you don't even activate it yourself so it doesn't count for me). So Mogh is one of the only 3 useless site of grace, it's strange if you consider my point above. And the name is also strange. It's the only one without a major boss name ! All the other sites have the name of the boss but not here, it's not Mogh's site, it's he empyrean's
I wonder if Miquella's plan is/was just to stab everyone with the golden needles. It certainly would solve a lot of problems. Radahn and Malenia: No more scarlet rot Rikard: (hopefully) no more snake influence Godwyn: No more death root Miquella: (hopefully) no more eternal youth Marika and Radagob: No more Greater Will influence Mohg: No more Formless Mother influence Godrick: No more big loser energy
if you stab Rick, Soldier of God with the Golden Needle, it shatters in his flesh and causes him to gain absolute control of the Lands Between, superseding the Greater Will
I hope it is somewhere accessible early on that way we can get early access to Regular and Somber 7s, 8s, and Somber 9s since they are so hard to come across in base game early on.
it would be funny if everyone is guessing these crazy convoluted ways to access to dlc and watch it be just a simple statue/npc being added to the Roundtable, just like the coliseum update
I put 1,400 hours into Elden Ring and now I've just been playing BG3 waiting for the dlc to drop! I love these videos so much!! I come here more than any other Elden Ring channel!
I think the hand makes sense because it can be either a mid or late game area depending on if you follow varres quest. Though Mohg is still a barrier. The dlc will likely start with mid game difficult and get harder as you go through.
I think besides having one or two entrances into DLC specific areas, there are going to be a bunch of new NPCs, quest lines, items, and overall discoveries riddled all over the entire map, almost like an overhaul
Given how Elden Ring is an Open World, it will probably have multiple entrances. A main entrance that's at a point in the game that balanced maybe requires a key of some kind. Also abother entrance that the player can enter any time in the game. The base game has th obvious intended path, but there you don't need to follow it. You can run past the castle, you climb up thr cliff without the lift etc.
im headed to that map icon north of the shaded castle personally, or the cloud in the crater, happy to see the door in this vid tho- never noticed the baldachin connection!
Honestly I really do hope the DLC is more of an integration into the main game than a seperate accessible area. Games like Gothic 2 did that with their expansion. It had a new large zone but also overhauled the entire base game. Rebalancing combat, adding small quests, items etc. Really weave the expansion into the game.
@@flickcore mountaintops are so bad and unfinished and the pvp/invasion system is the worst in all of fromsoft games and the lack of covenants and incentive to engage in multiplayer so yeah an overhaul to some enemy placements and fixing mountaintops and overhauling pvp as a whole is needed
@@Bouchiba-bu7yp Tbf, before the release of DLCs, people would complain about the late game of most fromsoft games It was universally agreed that in Bloodborne, after Rom, there was a noticeable dip in quality in Boss and Level design. DLC didn’t fix it, but added to the late game Dark souls lategame was seen as completely Unfinished before dlc. The dlc didn’t fix the late game, just added to it Pretty sure Dark souls 3 was the only one where ppl liked the late game without dlc These trends suggest the late game for Elden ring won’t be “fixed” just added upon with new areas
I believe it will be either the cocoon or the corrupted tree near the erdtree south of the city. We could get a surprise and it would be a new location all together like a delve or ruin.
I think the place will be in the hideaway since most of DLC's can be accessed early on. Bloodborne after defeating Vicar Amelia, DS3 after defeating the crystal Sage and entering the catheral of the deep, and the suppossed Sekiro dlc on the Sempo temple where the centepide boss was (i think it was speculated to be there). DS1 DLC can be accessed just after defeating O&S since you can access the Duke's archives, which is just halfway through the game.
I think there might be multiple entrances. It’s called an expansion, so it’s possible it is something like the underground where there are new areas with different access points
I think with the size of ER and the what seems like the size of the DLC (being also very large), the level scaling will not be like past games, I think it will be accessible very early, and some parts of the new map will be low level and some higher. I also think it will scale specifically to your character a bit to account for the amount of players at different levels (no souls game has this big of an audience and I think they will take that in to account). I think multiple areas will lead one to the "other world" and one of them is the Godwyn freaky fish body below Stormveil, and other places that represent death like this.
Would be interesting if they pulled a Far Cry/Ubisoft and made it a stand alone entry. DLC rumors/leaks have been saying how big the DLC would be and what if you could play the DLC without having to own the base game? (with option to import character)
I hope it’s in the deep root depths, idk why but it just feels right to me, idk how to explain it, but it is also one of the least saturated areas I heard a lot of people even call it underwhelming. I also hope it’s in deep roots cuz out of the thousands of hours I’ve played, I’ve never personally step foot in deep roots. So for me and I’m sure a lottt of other people it would be really fun to access the DLC through an area that we’ve never touched before but has always been there. That being said the Saint Trina hideaway, seems most likely to me just logically. It really just seems like the place to use. The other main option i can see happening is, just throwing us a teleporter. In my opinion the bass game already relied just a tad too much on teliporters. There r sections of ds3 that feel 3 times more open world than some parts of Eldon ring that use a lot of teleporters cough cough sofra river. So ye i could totally see them just throwing us a lil teliporter to take us to another crumbling Farum type location. This is my least hopeful prediction, but i can totally see them doing that
I think we'll be able to find a new secret medallion, but it will be used in the lift going to the Altus plateau instead. This parallels the hidden medallion we use to get to the consecrated snow field.
You didnt mention the Apostate Derelict, where St. Trina resides. Maybe we go into St. Trina's dream there? We dont see any results from Latenna giving Trina the dew or whatever it is, so maybe our own interaction with Trina will give something new.
If I had to guess the dlc will definitely have a few options to access including a whole new option not associated with any base game areas just for reasons of accessibility! Either way I have two characters on pause for now one endgame character & one mid game character just in case! Hope to see a trailer in the next month or so!
Just opened this video about Miquella, I sure hope Ziostorm saw my previous comments and now understands that the "Halig" in Haligtree is Old English for "Holy" and that the g at the end has a y sound if it's near a long vowel, like i. I'm sure he will correct his prior errors in pronunciation this video!
The bodies of each child of Marika have some remnants that we can access (except for Radahn and Mohg, though it's possible that the latter fused with Miquella), and all of their bodies are either dead or soulless. I'm guessing they'll add a body for Radahn and transform all of them into portals. Perhaps we'll get seven DLCs tied into one, with Miquella and Mohg's being the main one.
I think it will be multiple entrances. One throught a sudequest probably. One hidden in the open world behind a boss (Mogh) And then one deeply hidden, as from use to do
It would be cool if it was at Godwyns corpse, honestly anywhere underground, Nokron and Nokstella were some of my favorite areas in the game, just loved the looks of those areas. My guess it will be there or at Miquella's cocoon. You're right though, typically the DLC is accessible mu h earlier in the game. Maybe the Church of Vows where Turtle Pope is, maybe you'll get a new interaction with him and he gives you something from Radagon that will let you access Miquella's dream world.
