Elder Scrolls Lore: Ch.17 - High Elves of the Summerset Isles 

The Mobslayer I feel like a human was beating him with his caveman club when he did the video about the racist twats who stole the land of Skyrim from the falmer who were there first and then let no outsiders into the land that doesn't actually belong to them... Sorry that slipped out, I meant Nords.

Alex Kerrigan Well, the Falmer let them stay, but then were like "o shiet they having too many babies we gota do sumtin bout it" then proceeded to massacre innocent people.

The Mobslayer The massacring didn't begin until after attempts to drive out the Nords and then their retaliation.

***** This is exactly why! Just murder a ton of other people! So what? The Nords are awesome!

Alex Kerrigan Falmer drew the first blood as a result of their paranoia and xenophobia.. They only have themselves to blame..

Just seems like a d*ck move to join the Stormcloaks as a High Elf, even moreso if you're in Thalmor robes. But yes, it makes absolutely no sens to be a High Elven stormcloak, unless somehow you don't agree with your elven brethren regarding the thought of a worship of Talos.

***** you're right. I fought for the Stormcloaks cause I thought we were fighting for freedom...I didn't know we were the Thalmors puppet...I didn't know

As much as you'd like to think you are you aren't a puppet a The Thalmor. In the dossier it's stated that a victory on both sides is to be avoided. They want a war to go on. If the Stormcloaks win they have no right to be In Skyrim any longer if The Imperials win they gain morale and overall more support from the Jarls. So no you are not a puppet of the Thalmor when you are a Stormcloak quite the opposite actually

i belive their is a nice mod out their that let's you start the game as a thalmor justiciar, pronounced justic-ee-air-ee, but ther is no quest line for it though, it's live another life

Enric Tellez makes sense

Ok anime pfp

There are, Legate Fasendil is an Altmer who serves in the Legion and is stationed in the Rift in Skyrim during the civil war. He speaks of how the Dominion killed many Altmer refugees in Hammerfell, simply because they were in opposition to the Thalmor. Fasendil himself lost family in that incident. Needless to say, he hates the Thalmor with a passion.

Also the Psijic order are opposed to them, if you've played the quest in the college of winterhold I know you would understand.

Why would they hate them?

Mine too. They're just so butthurt over Talos.

Spirit of Socialism Still, religious freedom's a pretty big deal.

I'm aware of that. I played Skyrim and part of Oblivion, and I was a High Elf both times. I even joined the Stormcloaks as an Altmer.

I agree. At first I played as the High Elf, but when I played through the certain quests that related to the Civil War, the Thalmor shames Tamerial for making the Empire looking like traitors to not only Hammerfell, but also Skyrim.

I used to like talos but then I realized the thalmor were right.

To Lazy to think Of a clever name I wonder how powerful would be a high Elf and a Nord and a wood elf all mixed together as one gene pool I honestly think he or she would be awesome think about high elf magic and wood elf ability to get animals help and mastery of the bow and Nord strength. that person/mer would be a deadly foe

*Too Lazy to Learn how to Spell Too

To Lazy to think Of a clever name I know!

Tl2aV I agree.

To Lazy to think Of a clever name I don't care what you all want to think but the Nerevarine, the champion of cyrodiil and the dragonborn were Nords ;)

I never thought about it that way... but your right

Nope...

Michal Valta not all high elves are bad that’s like saying oh your black so I think your good at basket ball u should be a basket ball player cuz you black

At the present the high elves follow by the leading thalmor. They deserve their received disdain.

@quikgamer But, unlike humans, were racism isn't justified because there is no superior race, racism still isn't justified in Tamriel, but the Altmer have all the rights to feel superior, because they are

Make*

I don’t give a fawke about your order of Phoenix!

Fucking lame and nerdy

@@joerogansscrotum2409 *I'm telling you they're keeping babies alive after they're born!* Also you're a dickhead 😑

@@joerogansscrotum2409 You're watching an Elder Scrolls lore video lmao

I don't get it.

Khoros Mythos haaack

Khoros Mythos ughh

Khoros Mythos it's a reference to oblivion

It's not a race your stormcloak masters would tell you about

WR3ND The Khajiit are lowlives and drug dealers. Ancano will never make conversation with Hispanic sounding cats.

+Ancano hispanic? WTF. Never met one that talked like that.

Bretons are pretty buddy, and the wood elves are OK Thought Khajitt trump them all 'Skyrim belongs to the Nord... But everything belongs to Khajitt'

Luis Villa #Triggeredded

The khajiit are cool but not sane, they love druggs. which is probably they are seen as cat people.

I think they have more of a bias towards the topic race of each video. It's not as much neutral as it is just the truth

Majority of humanities heros are known for mass genocides and wiping out races entirely and somehow they're the good guys?

​@@fleabagmonkeyface2320the Nords didn't commit genocide it was a war and they ended up winning. And the for the imperials they won the war with the Ayleids. Cope harder self hating cuck Talos is a god whether you or your elf Toadies like it or not

It's not that easy.

I never said it'd be easy, but doing the right thing is rarely easy.

I don't hate high elves, i just have a problem with the Thalmor. If they have an issue with Talos, fine that's their right but they do not have a right to force it on others.

***** The main reason I dislike the thalmor is that they wish to eventually eradicate humans so they can get "back" their godhoood. High elves in general as far as I have seen are generally ok.

Violence is not strength and compassion is not weakness.

+Dread Wolf because it wasn't just another quest, they uncovered the Eye of Magnus. If the Thalmor got hold of that, it'd be bye bye Tamriel.

Dread Wolf​ When I found out that the Thalmor wanted to erase man from all reality to become godly beings like the Aldmer, I realized their more of a threat than Alduin and Dagon.

seriously doint dragon born will be in TES 6

YES!!!

ThillerKillerX As do I, however, we live in a society of which shuns those who aren't deemed beautiful enough and praises those of whom can hide their faces under ten pounds of make-up; no hyperbole involved.

I think everyone should be cosidered beutiful, ten pounds of makeup or not

ThillerKillerX I think humans are well balanced, not too smart, not to strong, decent lifespans, average at every art, that's why human races are the best

Think about how much better the world would be

@@blank2588 If only... Humanity deserves extinction.

Id rather eat my shoes. They could set it there and id still play as a Khajiit or Redguard.

I would rather play in frozen, uninhabited Atmora.

I hope it'll be The Elder Scrolls 6: Aldmeri Dominion. It'll be Summerset Isle Valenwood and Elsweyr it would be EPIC!

Visgoth I know! I really hope they do that! I want to see my favorite place Summerser Isle!

Nah. 6, as man's number should be hammerfell and 7, as the number of perfection, should center around The High Elves and their Domian.

I love the altmer but hate the thalmor, as the thalmor are only a small splinter group of them.

Welcome to the dominion friend!

***** agreed

The newest incarnation of the Thalmor literally want to destroy Nirn, so while certainly the plea of the High Elves can be sympathized and agreed with, the organization of zealots who want to destroy the world and become Gods, cannot.

***** Heimskr shouts filthy Nord Propaganda, the truth is beyond what he could make up.

Mede dynasty (the ruling family in the empire) isn't descended from Tiber Septim. The Aldmeri dominion isn't part of the empire for about 100 years now. Tiber did not genocided the Altmer. The siege of Summerset lasted a week. And Tiber Septim signed every religious treaty there was. So Argonians can worship the Hist or Sithis, Altmer could worship their ancestor gods, dunmer could worship the tribunal etc. It doesn't mean that Tiber was a good man. He did reach divinity by violence. That says something about the man.

That's a week of killing and destruction. Also, notice how I never said forced to worship the nine divines, just that since it's the main religion, they are going to hear about it constantly. That is basically the equivalent of Jewish people hearing about how great the new god Hitler is. (Though Tiber was better than most dictators)

Tbond96 You said main religion. Which it's not. It's not like Tiber Septim declared himself a god or declared the 8 as the main and only true pantheon in Tamriel. Tiber Septim himself worshipped The One (probably Anu) and established his temple in the imperial city. Empire was more the likes of early Roman Empire, where you could worship a potato if you wanted to and nobody cared. Altmer did not actually care what hero-god humans worshipped (well they started when they figured out that Tiber actually is a god). Cyrodills worshipped Reman and St.Allesia and concidered Pelinal as a saint. Pelinal a saint!? A guy who organized a pogrom of Khajiit, because he thought that they were elves. And it's not like the Altmer religion is so much better. Their Hero-God killed the trickster Lorkhan (which was before Tiber and partially is now ,concidered a Hero-God of Mankind) which lead to the enslavement of the human race under their elven masters . Why? Because humans belong there. No bias there. The empire wasn't never a dictatorship(as in totalitarian state). It was an autocratic pluralistic abosolute monarchy. One person rules with absolute power, but everyone can do whatever they want.

So if it isn't the main religion, than why is it that in EVERY Elder scrolls game, that religion is there yet the religion of the Bosmer, Altmer, Nords are never present in every game? Also Rome, the same empire that fed Christians to lions for being Christians, isn't the best example. I think you are mistaken. I'm not against the empire, I fought with the empire to keep skyrim part of the empire. But it has been a dictatorship at some points as well. Remember in Morrowind, when your first mission as a solider is to get the deed to a house? The opinion of the empire depends on race however, there is no absolute.

Stop thinking like a human and being apologetic. Altmer hate humans. They continuously cry for their lost divinity and blame it on Lorkhan and mankind by association. You can like them but NEVER make excuses for their bigotry.

*The Maomer request your location*

That would be awesome!

Give that man a cookie,tell Obama to fund this new project

AlphaArgonian Penitus Oculatus pathetic though

@AlphaArgonian why the fuck would a high elf join the stormcloaks?

Empire_Ants that is the truth

Empire_Ants you mean the guys who are jealous of talos becoming the 9th god?

yeah, he kinda is. what happens when you pray to a talos shrine? you get restored. point blank.

Tl2aV so why does it heal you and give you "talos's blessing" or have you never used a shrine before? and as for the "he's just a dragonborn" yeah he is, and if you did your research like me, then you would find out that talos, miraak and the last dragonborn are all reincarnations of lorkhan who (correct me if i'm wrong, which i'm fucking not) is a god. if you don't believe me, finish the game and go to sovngarde. then go and look for shor's throne, surprise surprise he's not there due to the fact that, unless under certain circumstances (miraak and the last dragonborn being in the same timeline) two reincarnations can't usually be in the same place. and shor or "shezzar" as the imperials call him, is their representation of GUESS WHO? lorkhan, so basically not only is talos a god, he's been a god like 4 times already. and the reason the thalmor want talos worship banned, is for two reasons. 1. talos is basically lorkhan reincarnated. good old lorkhan is the devil figure of the elves, as he robbed them of their divinity. so it's basically like someone worshiping satan in real life. 2. if they erase talos, they basically erase lorkhan from the universe, thus removing the mortal plane (cause he tricked the other aedra into making it) and returning all mortals to aetherius. so basically, talos is a god, he's an asshole and the reincarnation of several assholes but he's a god nonetheless.

Tl2aV "lol you're dumb" someone's a bit salty. i should have worded that fucking paragraph correctly, the dragonborn isn't a god, it's a reincarnation of a god.

ALTMER!!! FUCK YEAH!!!

+Lloyd Zed I get so annoyed when people see a high elf and go: "ew, thalmor." not all altmer are thalmor.

+Lloyd Zed You Dunmer are respectable, you are related to us Altmer after all.

+Lloyd Zed Hmm, I shall have one of the Battle-Borns inprisoned in Northwatch keep until he cooperates in our attempts to find the heretic that owns this amulet. Thank you for your cooperation.

Preserve the purity of the superior Aldmeri race.

Tonberry Queen well they do live a long life Much longer than the race of men

Syncretic Views tell that to the aldmeri dominion instead... a full elven race in the dominion...then let the ebony pact have the redguards along side the nords and bretons...

Don't the Dunmer hate the High Elves?

+Donnie Conner no high elves hate the dark

+Syncretic Views That would be a good idea, but there is a problem with that idea. Altmer and Dunmer hate each other.

+Ryoji Mochizuki actually many of the dunmer hate about any race that is a outlander you can see that if you play Morrowind or even the Dragonborn DLC thus the insulting term N'wah applies specially to outlanders

Yeah and with all the remastered versions they should have added a new guest involving the thalmor

The Lilmothiit would be nice, too

Nod Lucario Seeing the Lilmothiit, would be awesome. Dwemer though? Who said the Dwemer CAN return? Who said they'd want to. After all, we don't know exactly where they are.

***** we don't... HOWEVER they disappeared via the giant killer dwarf-bot after activating it they went away, however if someone were to activate the machine again...

Thundercloud 2000 That's an awful idea! Remember when they re-activated it in Daggerfall? IT KILLS THE PROTAGONIST!

***** Maybe they'll do what they did in Daggerfall, with the whole time split. Or maybe they just won't ever talk about it, like the events of Morrowind's house wars. Who knows?

Dark elf master race

nah, orcs are the best race. name any other race thats as ugly as the orcs?

Well wood elves are pretty awesome

orcs for life!!! your not welcome to our strongholds

Dimitri L Admittedly, orcs do have a very interesting story as well.

Because the Altmer were more confined to trying to find a way to reach divinity again, not concerned with conquest. Then Talos came around and that gave the extremists a voice to start growing and poisoning the Altmer race. The Thalmore and the Dominion established came from those extremists. They quietly killed off most the Altmer that didn't want to be part of such violent nonsense.

Charolete el Bridget Tiber Septim and Zurin Arctus were both Shezzarines, aspects of a basically omnipotent deity. Their whole shtick is saving mankind, so they would have prevailed either way, especially since Tiber Septim knew CHIM (making him more powerful than any other deity, barring Vivec and Lorkhan).

I'm so very sorry. My words are putrid filth. I'm so very sorry for infecting you with them.

Talos conquered the Summerset Isles using a literal God built by the Dwemer. If he had attempted any other method he would have been curb stomped all the way back to the mainland. The Third Aldmeri Dominion were the successors in the Great War, forcing Titus Mede II to sign the White-Gold Concordat. They defeated the Empire while simultaneously fighting the Redguards of Hammerfell to a stalemate.

@@Lightscribe225 Cry louder, dickhead

Ah my fellow breton brothers

Aaron but mammoth cat and house cat spy

They ugly though

If only they weren't so greedy

Aaron But Bretons are milkdrinkers...ps they do not have Nordic strength

Thalmor aren't more of a "bad guy" than anyone else is.

Michael Wright Their lore has Nazi connotations.

Michael Wright The literal goal of the Thalmor is to destroy Nirn. They are wholly evil, and this fact has been confirmed by MK, who stated that they were the greatest threat to the mortal realm.

"confirmed by MK" not confirmed by Bethesda. Anything not confirmed by Bethesda is not lore. I don't really want the Thalmor to become silly cartoon villains.

Michael Wright Well, I mean, MK was responsible for the reappearance of the Thalmor after helping with KotN and I'm fairly certain he was also the chief contributor in their creation...so there's that. The goal of the Thalmor is the destruction of Nirn. That is a fact. They may have some motivations, albeit shallow ones, for doing it (e.g. becoming like the Ehlnofey once again), but it's still their goal. Anywho, we'll never get to see the Thalmor accomplish their goal anyway. The entire Altmer race gets erased from existence by Anumidium in the Fifth Era during Landfall. But hey, Nirn gets rekt, so they still win in the end.

armsofundertow98 He makes these videos off of the lore in the actual games. Surprising when the Altmer write about themselves they think they are superior beings. Ikr? shocking..

depending on the age you come up with for each character (and they hadn't been killed) - Arena: Doubt it, Daggerfall: Doubt it again, Morrowind: Probably not but maybe, Oblivion: Yes, Skyrim: No shit.

Ethan Admiraal the first four Elder Scrolls games happened within several years, maybe decades at most. The first three games and beginnign of the fourth had the same emperor. Young high elvrs from the first game could still be alive into skyrim

Considering ES 1-4 took place within the span of half a century, I'd say yes.

This is irrelevant to the video but I must say...nice Thrawn pic XD

MygunsJammedify Nothing wrong appreciating their hard work.

My favorite is the Breton

dragontamer1012 I'm a Elf lover all the way! The only race I play is a Altimer

*altmer. and i too like elves, i always play as dunmer

i like killing altmer even though i am bosmer myself cause talmor are too arrogant.

Andrewf5251 I'm an altmer and I kill the thalmor

Flamboyant Warlock Excaly!

I agree it seems that every other race is yelling at the top of their lungs "We're the best in the world" but the Imperials are like "Hey, guys can't we just clam down and cooperate?"

The Imperials are even worse than the Altmer when it comes to arrogance, and a wish to conquer others. Both they and the Altmer believe themselves to be higher than all the other races, but the Altmer have for the most pary, kept to themselves, while the Imperials have created their own "Manifest Destiny", believing it is their birthright to subjugate and enslave the other races of Tamriel, only to call this coerced submission 'Peace'.

I think Tamriel would do best under the Altmer under the condition that they recognise that the other races have also a right to live and prosper and start to lead instead of enslave. It sounds kinky but I think all the Altmer would need to be truly perfect is a little bit of love. Sadly, Tiber Septim already filled them with hatred.

Why is it that their has to be an Emperor it is like the Imperials are just wanting to be subjugated like with the Ayleids. It is like with out a single master to control them they are at each other throats ready to kill one another maybe the races of Tamriel were meant to be ruled. The person who should rule the empire is whom ever can conquer it.

Nicholas Fincannon I don't think you see how the system here works ( or, should work, at least.) Think of the emperor like a president. They have some powers, yes, but most powers belong only to the council, and the council should make all decisions based on a vote.

Agreed! Do it, ShoddyCast . Pwease :3

Or just Beth make a game in the mythic era with akavir and aldmeris and admora. I would die for that

Ella C I think not. It would remove the mysteries that plagues it now. Who knows maybe we would be very dissappointed with what we would find out about for example the dwemer.

wu1ming9shi They may include something perhaps in the last game. Just conjecture :P

This series is pretty good. Channel itself is kind of crap though.

Dwemer > all.

Yeah but they are imo the most asshole race among elves

nope, they used the heart of lorkhan to become gods but it failed and erased them from time.

Giggles the clown we don't know actually. it is possible that they became gods too

Reben then why don't the contact nirn? the daedra are gods and they can contact nirn. the tribunal used the heart, and they became gods, but they remained on nirn.

While I do like the vid it is well known that the shoddy cast are biased towards the Thalmor. And more specifically the High Elves.

MrSpartanspud It's easy to be biased towards the altmer once you've read into their lore as they are interesting, unique and mysterious. Opinion regarding the altmer has generally been so biased against them, it's nice to see an opinion that paints them in a positive light (all in all, I agree far more with shoddy on this).

Don't get me wrong I don't dislike the High Elves in TES it's the Thalmor who are the annoying ones and unfortunately in Skyrim most High Elves are Thalmor.

MrSpartanspud Agreed, the current Thalmor are nasty, though the original Thalmor were noble: the previous Aldmeri Dominion was founded to protect elven society from other races (unlike the current one that seeks to invade other lands).

MrSpartanspud I would also recommend going back & watching all of the other Race videos. ShoddyCast isn't just "biased" toward the Altmer. It's part of what makes each video entertaining, to bring in the bias for each Race. It's certainly not "well-known". It's just quickly made-up in the minds of the mostly Nord-biased fans of Skyrim here in the comments...similar to the quick-to-judge demeanor of the Stormcloaks in-game.

+StarKeyStudios That would never happen. Ever since the Oblivion Crisis, the other races of Tamriel are banned from entering Alinor.

+Nazim zanim It could be in a time earlier than the oblivion crisis

i see hammerfell as the most possible location with the aftermath of the great war and all that.

+StarKeyStudios VALENWOOD VALENWOOD VALENWOOD VALENWOOD!!!!

You're spot on , Mer over Men Men got us into this big mess and we are tired of this , Sure they conquered all of tamriel , But the only reason they took our land is because of that wretched dwarven machine!

Not all Dark Elves are like that though. You can't say all dark elves are bad, some are actually good

+SonyaPwnsAll they put the entire argonian race into slavery

+Xnoviter Not to mention House Telvanni was the only Dunmer house who refused to join and support the Ebonheart Pact because they saw the Argonians as their inferiors and refused to fight beside them. There is nothing noble about Dunmer society.

+Bo Banesz are you talking to me or SonyaPwnsAll? or both...

+Xnoviter I was piggybacking on what you said so both I guess.

They're either insane, racial supremacists or simply total pricks.

Aleksa Petrovic Isn't Manimarco the badguy in Daggerfall?

thalmor aren't evil , they do the right thing

BlueShit199 High elves always seek control of everything, leading to their downfall

Alex Kingston Excaly!!! We do what's best for our kin.

KingLink95 every race's story is told from their prospective.

Accept for the dark elves

KingLink95 Your political compass makes me want to vomit

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