@@Ironica82 Agreed. "It's not easy" is a cop-out to avoid doing the right thing. Doing the right thing is frequently not easy. You should do it anyway.
Cheater story: Honestly, if they already sleep in different rooms and stuff they like are only together for the kids at this point and don't actually see themselves as a couple anymore. I have known such situations in which hubby was in on it because he himself had an affair too. They'd basically be roommates raising their kids.
Son: "Mommy, are we in the 1950s?" Mom: "Why do you say that?" Son: "Darrin from Bewitched sleeps in separate beds with his wife. Are you guys living the 1950s?" Mom: "What? No! We're... just... um, taking time off." Son: "Hmm... Then who was that banging the walls off my bedroom last night?" Mom: "Me." Son: "So you're the Miranda Lawson?" Mom: "Uh, yes, I am!" Son: "Then was Commander Shepard an alien or a dog?" Mom: "Sweetie! He was the dog, duh!" Son: "Liar! He was *the Commander Shepard* Miranda bangs in the game as a romantic option! My god, are gonna be a polygamous family, Mom? Dad took in a second wife? Cool!" Mom: "Hey! Listen here you brat! Your father is cheating on me and I am not OK with it!" Son: "Then why don't you confront him, tell him you love him and will be his Miranda Lawson forever. Then, then, quit sleeping in separate bedrooms so he wouldn't have to cheat!" *Son walks away like a boss*
Last story: You should absolutely tell your father. The marriage and family dynamic is already toxic and letting this lie go on is only going to cause mental and emotional strain on everyone involved. It'll be rough at first but that clarity will provide a clean slate to build a new, healthier life from. Plus continuously being subjected to your mother's infidelity is going to destroy your ability to have healthy relationships of your own in the future because you'll be too insecure and overly suspicious of partners to trust them enough to build a strong bond without forcing them to live underneath a microscope that they'll very quickly get tired of. Make sure to get therapy afterwards too because you're going to need it.
Third Story: Tell your father. Do not torture yourself. I went through a similar process and I almost went to mental hospital. It is very unhealthy and you deserve better. Plus your dad should know.
“ I don’t want their relationship to get any worse than this.” Honey, your family is over. Your mom doesn’t love your dad. He’s not a nice guy. Why would you want to keep this loveless marriage together?
Regarding the second story, I may have misunderstood, but Stella kind of blew them off at the bar. Granted, they spent about a half hour talking inside, but the OP and Billy didn't know anyone outside, other than Stella and the girlfriend. Stella chose to stay at the bar, at which point, OP and Billy were kinda free to do what they wished. 4:00am is a little rough to get back in, but at that point, short of finding an all night diner or something, any time they got back in would have been awkward.
In the story with the girl Stella, OP tried to reach out to her. She tried calling only to have that communication blocked repeatedly. Stella doesn't want to communicate and simply wants to cut OP off. What OP did was wrong, but her friend overreacted to high hell. She didn't bother to confront her about the issue and just cut her off. Someone more is at play than her simply being annoyed OP was hanging out with Billy and losing track of time/being a bit inconsiderate. On top of that they attempted to include her and she flat out refused. I don't know. Stella seems to either be really sensitive or OP is committing details.
Second story. I honestly don't think op is in the wrong at all. First I understand that her friend open her home to op to stay in but that doesn't mean op has to follow her around like a puppy, especially when op was put into a situation where she only know 2 people at the gathering and 1 is already engaged in the activity with others. So op walking to the inside bar with Billy to grab some drinks and chat for a few isn't wrong at all, especially when the probably hadn't really gotten time to 1 on 1 catch up. Also op and billy staying out late is a bit of a problem but in there defense they were both drunk and having too much fun (and don't act like you've never been with a friend and got lost in the moment), Stella should have at the very least sent a text saying the group was heading home as a warning, but I can see why having to wake up in the early morning just to let some drunks in can be annoying
Last story: This is a marriage that should have ended years and years ago. OP telling their father will not ruin their family: it's already ruined. Things won't get worse if they get a divorce. Maybe things get better. The question here is: OP telling their father will put a strain on their relationship with their mother. I think this is the main focus, even if OP don't put it this way. If OP wants to salvage their mother-child relationship, I think they should talk to their mother what they know and how the gaslighting has affected their mental health. Depending on the mother reaction, then they should decide to tell their father or not.
In the third story imagine if it was a human child. Your in the hospital: I think my son has a fever. Is he going to be okay? A Karen in room: well clearly you not good parents. Without your permission I’m going to give your kid up for adoption and if you won’t let me I’ll call CPS. Like WHAT!
Story #2- Sounds like Stella had already had her mind made up once she started to be confrontational in the very 1st bar. The OP only went in to get a drink with a familiar friend as the OP said she didn't know the other 12 people & Stella didn't go out of her way to introduce the OP to any of the other 12 people. Time to keep Stella out of your life I'm thinking she just might be jealous of the OP??!! She had zero right to have the OP leave because they got split up the night before. There's plenty of time's I've gotten separated from friend's and vice versa and never had anyone been asked to leave and find other accommodations. Anyway friend's like Stella who need enemies!!?? Good Luck
3rd story. Tell your dad before he finds out himself. When he finds out you knew the whole time and didn't tell him He'll think you hate him and sided with your mom. Sucks to say your family has ended years ago. You just didn't want to accept it
That was some crazy ntr story, you need to say something or you're allowing yourself to suffer in false martyrdom. She is doing this, even when caught by you, she is even offended that you're getting in her way, worse still is that she's already manipulated you into this messed up headspace of speaking out and "Thinking about the family" when that's the least on her mind. God this is a mess
Mom cheating on dad : You should sit your dad down and tell him. I normally do not like for kids to get involved in these things, but last year one of my buddy's daughters caught her mom cheating and was afraid to tell him. Somehow my buddy found out about it on his own, but also found out his daughter knew and did not tell him. He was not surprised about his wife, but was devastated that his daughter was hiding this secret from him. He has since refused to speak to his daughter. You do not want that.
Either directly tell you dad the truth or send to him anonymously while the mother is on her business trip. Either way if she will to have affair with someone else than reality is she’s not thinking about you or your sibling or how she is hurting the family.
shit if I have to be honest. the kid is putting way too much responsibility on themselves. it's not up to them to keep the family together nor is it their business to unfortunately. they idolize their parents but neglect they are people too and that there are clear issues that need to be resolved for any of them to be healthy. the best thing for them to do is tip off their dad. and let them solve what they need to because the parents are both clearly unhappy with each other. and continuing that kinda toxic marriage without ending or fixing it does way more damage than a split.
I will say everyone claiming the mother doesnt care about the family is being way too harsh. and need to listen to how the kid describes the father again. they fight regularly but he shows no affection to the mother for the kid's entire life. tell me that's not insane. the kid just needs to exit the adult situation. clear their own mind and get the guilt of knowing off of them but mind their own business going forward because it sounds like they are lost about a lot going on. that couple has clear issues besides the cheating or hell the dad might be too just not caught yet.
@@briansmith2113 that's big if thought but op didn't say anything about her dad only being cold but her actions or lack of it shows that she doesn't care about her dad and her mother even tried to gaslight the daughter.
@@hnrynova that's the point I'm making here. she doesnt care about her dad and think that being that nonpersonal to even your own wife is normal for years on end. even saying she cant recall her dad proclaiming love to the mother even once. yet drags the mother for being a terrible wife for cheating. seems like she's missing a lot of the picture. and is blinded by idolization of the parents. she only tearing the mother down at the moment because she was out right caught and was the beginning of that image being shattered. but the reality is likely it was over long ago.
There's actually the possibility the dad already knows. Since they're pretty much living separately, they may just be staying together until the kids are grown.
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With the last story of this video honestly I would have tried to make friends with the daughter of 50 plus year old Mommy Dearest's workplace husband the minute I found out about her and used that as ammunition asking "I wonder how your workplace husband's daughter will react?"
That girl in the third story is incredibly selfish. She'd rather hold on to the shattered belief that her family should stay together. I hope the father finds out. The daughter is a coward and should feel bad
Last story: just say it to your father your mother are clearly don't care about your family and you should be selfish if you not want to be like me who don't care a family because of similar situation btw my father cheated
Final story OP is extremely selfish. She cares more about keeping the family together for her benefit than allowing her dad to make the decision to stay married with the truth
Last OP made me sooo angry. I know you're going through a though situation and you are not the one to blame, but not doing anything is just making it worst for absolutely everyone, not just yourself, but also your father and the family of the other guy
IIRC, she mentioned how she has issues with anxiety (could be thinking of another story). If the father is realistic and the mother is exactly how she sounds, then the father would understand how his x puts pressure on the kids in order to get her way and thus would have guilt tripped her to stay silent.
Last story, op should send screenshots of all the messages pretending to be the wife of the affair partner. That way he knows because he deserves to know what's going on, but you don't have to say it to him directly.
Story 2: It really annoys me how this stupid woman just goes like "you are abusing this dog put it in adoption!"to newcomers and just stealing random pictures and putting them for adoption is simply wrong. Story 3: I got an advice , if your mom tries to hide it and uses excuses to not admit it just tell your dad , i know its hard but your dad deserves someone better than his actual wife .
My parents divorced a long time ago.. at the age of 5 to be exact. There was nothing wrong with their marriage they just were better off as friends… i know its not the same but honestly divorced parents aren’t that bad.
The final story OP is selfish. Its all about themself and what them staying together does for them. There is no regard for what is best for everyone in the family. The immediate result wouldn't be good, but ultimately the end result will turn out being best for everyone, even OP. They just lack foresight.
12:42 I can relate to this, my mom did cheat on a guy, let's call him "Jacob", I found out in mid-2020 and she was cheating with her " friend" and he even calls me his "daughter" and I told my mom so many times to make him leave me alone but he would call me his daughter despite having 3 kids already, it honestly disgusts me,how he can have the audacity to call me his daughter, he says this to my siblings too
WTF is wrong with OP in the last story, how selfish one can be to not tell the father and the lover's wife about the affair...just for what keeping the illusion of being a family...dude that train already left...they constantly fight and sleep on different beds, they aren't a couple anymore...they are just stuck and as far as you know only your mother is getting a taste of happiness...OP is denying his father a chance of being happy with someone else for his/her own selfishness sake...
for the last story I would've taken advantage of the fact that OP had their mother's phone and used it to tell the bastard she was cheating with to F off
for the last one even though family means lots to you it means you definitely should tell your father their most likely get seperated anyway and if you care about your brother then you won’t let him grow up with such a diabolical mother
Dad possibly already knows. They are already in separate rooms. They are just together for the children. They have no intimacy in their relationship. Let sleeping dogs lie.
Your reply to the last story: What would you do if you were in this situation Me: What do you mean if? Tone some of the things down and I am that father that their wife cheated on. She needs to tell him and show all the evidence. It shall hurt a lot and the next year shall bring on lots of stress but in the end, you and your father shall be better off without the weight of the secret hanging on you.
DOG STORY: sadly that happens all the time. Social media is one of the worst places to go for advise. I mean don't get me wrong. there are a lot of people out there willing to help. But rest assured you will get a Karen or two.
For the last story… I think you may have judge a bit harshly. I do agree that OP’s dad deserves to know everything, but maybe not from OP. What i suggest is that OP talked about it with their mom, tell her how they’ve overheard and saw some of the messages she sent and receive, tell her how it’s affecting OP’s feeling, then as for the rest it’s for the mom to figure out with the dad. It would totally come out different when you come out clean about what you did yourself, compared to being snitched by your own child. And just because OP’s mom is having an affair, doesn’t mean that she couldn’t be a perfect mom FOR OP. OP said that their father have never been romantic, from the limited information that was given to us, there might have been a fight between their parents that might have caused this, they both have done well to hide from their children that we didn’t know of, maybe even OP didn’t know of. A messy marriage is not something a child should try to fix. They can be a huge factor to affect it, but all they should do is try to explain to their parents about how it’s affecting them.
Tell your father. The worst thing you could do is to keep him in the dark. For all you know you or your brother are not even his. The reason why your mother is so great to you is to keep up appearances. You are weighing your own self interest over the well being of someone you claim to care about deeply. Your actions, or lack there of, do not align with your words.
The reason why she kick her out it wasn’t for staying out tell 4am it’s because she was with the guy that the other like so she kick her out just to get her out of the picture so the other girl can come in and put her moves on the guy she like. Girls are vindictive like that
Honestly? In the case of the last OP…they aren’t any better than their mom by hiding such information from their dad…they are lying and withholding this information from not only him, but to the other man’s wife and child! They are excusing their mom and saying “she’s a good mom!” All while saying how much of a manipulator and gaslighting woman she is. It’s also clear that her family and his family matter nothing to them…if I were OP, I’d destroy any little semblance of happiness and love that those two cheaters have…cause they deserve absolutely nothing
Last story, holy crap TELL YOUR DAD, your mother is a lying jerk. This is so unfair to your dad, you, and your brother. It'll be a mess either way, but it'll be worse to hide that from your dad... and its already hurting you keeping this secret. There's no easy way this will go. I'm sorry I can't be more help.
The OP in the last story is really her mother daughter, she as bad as her mother "this can destroy my family" like that isn't happen, living in a lie is away better, she doesn't care about a father, she still want to belieber that her mother is a good person, she isn't not even as a mother.
Last story is hard but it's not the kid's responsibility to keep the family together and the OP should tell her dad. It's better for everyone to just tell him and get it over with. It's not worth keeping the family together when it's this flawed
FINAL STORY: If you see this. Tell your father STAT about your mother. Your father is becoming more and more curious probably seeing the sudden change in attitude. Also, they already fight. So; it wouldn't hurt at all to tell your father.
You should tell your mom that you have proof and SHE should tell your dad. If she don't then you will. Honesty it would hurt your dad even more the fact that you knew and didn't tell him. They are already sleeping in separate rooms, they don't kiss or even tell each other "I love you!" That right there only says that they are together for you and your brother. But give your mom a chance to come clean or tell him yourself.
Last story. The kid should stay out of it. Relationships are complicated. She has no idea what her parents private relationship is behind closed doors, how her father has treated her mother, any arrangements that they’ve made, etc. It is not her business and honestly it seems like they are just being roommates and staying together for the kids and causing this kind of hassle could cause them to completely break up which is what she does not want. You cannot force your parents to have the relationship that you want them to have. Putting spyware on your mothers phone is reprehensible. She really needs to go to therapy and stay in her own lane
The girl in the last story needs to tell her father of the affair that's happening between her moms co-work and the mother there shouldn't be any secrets between the relationship. the father might get a divorce and you shouldn't be scared divorce has happened so many times to me that I'm not surprised that this point I've been through different marriages and all of them have ended in the same way and my mom dated the same person three times after every time they broke up so listen to my experience and you shouldn't be scared after all of the treatment that you're going through.
The last one is just like my life i can't tell my dad i can't tell my mom whenever i see my mom talking with him at first i get red becouse of anger and then i cry alone and i am really diprast please help
Last Story: Maybe the parents don't divorce bc the kids want them together (and society indirectly tells you to endure almost everything bc children need their parents together.). I don't say that's ok or good. And now a question for this kid: Do you really think it's ok what you do? I got the feeling kids don't like their parents to spy on them. How can it be ok to spy on your mother? If you are so concerned go and confront her with your evidence. You told she's a great mom to you so there's no reason to fear. And yes this may result with divorce but this would in no way be your fault bc it sounds as if the marriage is already over (but who knows maybe this is a chance for your parents to mend their relationship). I stayed in my relationship bc my daughter wanted us together. I feel very miserable but if it is what she needs I'll endure it. I work hard on faking so she doesn't realise the truth. There is no cheating - at least on my side I can't speak for her Dad. Maybe it's the same with your mom. If my daughter is unsure and checks my phone to be sure it wouldn't be ok but it's understandable. But it would be trust wrecking if she tells her Dad without confronting me first. You don't know the agreements of your parents. And yes, I think you have the right to get an honest answer!
I wish the last poster tells her father what has been happening. To cheat on someone is to treat them with the littlest respect and for the mother to be 50 and do it and tell to tell her child that knows that nothing is happening is by far the most toxic and and unhealthy thing to do. She can be a good mother but she’s a terrible person
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I must say: Both of you voicing the stories have said many times you have had expiriences with Karens and entitled people and also had shitty jobs. Have you ever thought of sharing your expiriences
Lmao at all the people talking shit about a child in the last story. OP doesnt agree with what her moms doing but its a scary situation for a kid to be in. Like grow up, she's a damn child looking for advice. You cant expect a child to have the same reasoning skills as an adult.
just sayin but wat if stella had something to do that day that could change her life fur the better, but the chance got messed up because you had to wake her up because of the op comin home at 4 a.m. then it would be clear that it is the op's fault that happened, or somethin like that.
Third story: Your family is already ruined. That's harsh truth. Tell your father asap, he deserves to know that and it would be a jerk move not to tell him.
The story about the father being cheated on for over 5 years but there is no romantic Tennessee at all I think they're only staying together for the family and they don't have any interest and each other that's what makes the most sense because why in the world would have married couple sleep and totally different rooms but supposedly the relationship is ok
On the last story, I believe it wasn't the daughter's place and to spy on her mom instead of bringing it up with her dad immediately was her fault. It's likely that her dad knows, hence the fighting, no gifts, and no intimate relations with the mom. If I were this girl's parent I would send her to counseling for multiple reasons. Bringing this up NOW to her Dad will definitely fracture any future relationship and trust with the mom. I would then have the mom check her phone for spyware. It's never the child's responsibility to govern what her parents do.
Yet at the same time, a child shouldn't have to be put in that situation. OP did nothing wrong. The fact OP is a child has zip to do with the situation itself. It's called speaking up. This is the problem with people. People frown on those who speak up, but when all hell breaks loose, the wrong person is blamed for not opening their mouth.
Last story. Your a child stay in a child's place why are you investigating your mother. You don't know if your parents agreed to stay with each other just for you.
Well, the OP stated multiple times that they don't want their parents relationship to go any further downhill. Keep in mind, we the viewers have no idea how each of them would respond. The mother might lash out at the OP, the father might lash out at the mother, the parents could lash out at each other, for all we know, one of them could be killed in all the rage and fury. The OP is already torn apart by the fact her mother is a cheater, imagine the impact of a divorce.
@@hnrynova Did you not watch the video at all? The OP loves both of her parents very much which is why she doesn't want to see them split up and why her mom's cheating is so devastating for her. He loves her father and knows that he deserves the truth, but knows that telling him would tear her family apart.
Honestly I think the wife of the Cheater Story should also know what her husband has been doing cuz that is just wrong I don't care if the dude was single or not it is not right for him to enter the Op's mother's life and I think the OP should show her dad and the family of the dude that her mom is cheating with.
Third story OP is kinda selfish for keeping it a secret cuz she doesn't wanna cause the family to separate. Tell your dad, let them split. Its better for both of them, and it's better for you. They argue all the time, the marriage is doomed, just let them get divorced and I assure you, they'll be happier (or the mom won't, if the co-worker doesnt also split with his wife). Don't keep these secrets period. Your mom yells at you for it, AND you're hurting yourself trying to protect something thats already gone.
I definitely agree that the father deserves to know for sure. But I think that the kids should bring it up with the mom in such a way that they're saying look. I know this is going on. I have proof you're not gonna talk me out of it okay? Stop treating me like I'm an idiot. Now I'm giving you a choice. You can either tell dad that you're cheating yourself. Or I will tell him. Keep in mind that I really do have proof so if you try anything, its not going to work. Which would you like that to be?
first Story if I was the store owner and Op told me he build his own PC I would ask him it he look for a job cause I need people like him and with his help and probably low some price I would made alot money with the help of OP and the owner blame him he waste a great opportunity and the cheating story OP you need to tell your father cause cleanly she don't care about your feeling and try give lame excuse and the fact she yelling at you to stay in your room, she be toxic and try manipulate you, and Op parent don't even said they love each other and fight everyday, Op you need to tell your father and it going be mess divorce for sure
14:11 maybe it was your dad, like my dad called a service dude i can hear someone in call saying our house adress then i called my dad turns out it was just him he called the service dude for water filter