ENTJ INTJ Differences (2021) 

If you know of why then of what becomes self evident ,

I am focused on both. Who am I? My past MBTI test resulted into INTJ while my recent MBTI test results into ENTJ.

@@siddhantmishra3598 The why takes longer and isn't necessary for many things.

And me as ANTJ, or 50% INTJ and 50% ENTJ, without any kind of irony, I am focusing on ''what'' and ''why'', and ofc ''how''

Nah, 'why' is more Ti-Ne axis

Yeah. We think things through in more detail so we make less mistakes than an ENTJ who just rushes in to get things done. Just my observation.

@@grazynawolska8160 You are underestimating real life experience. A lot more valuable to think enough, act as soon as possible, learn and keep going. Than be stuck at the thinking phase, very personal to yourself which can lead to many mistakes before bringing it out in the real world.

​@@FinnandZimaBlue, I am an INTJ (very likely), I can tell you that you are all underestimating how useful just jumping into action can be for even a small opportunity or something new to try. Your Ni becomes more grounded the more Se is used which is when it becomes most impactful.

Are you an ISFJ?

@@MoPoppins no, I am an INTJ.

on point ! I relate!

Sounds like a Fi

@@nythrox3047 The primary function of an Entj TE works in conjunction with Fi which is their weakest conscious function, so on a nearly subconscious level everything that the ENTJ does through this lead function TE is somehow filtered through their intrinsic values Fi, even though they are not fully aware of it most of the time which lead to sentimental streaks, unlike the Infp who has Fi as their lead function and is fully aware of their values and emotional composition!

@@gabrielalsham2192 "I wouldn't describe it as rational, I don't think things through or weigh pros and cons carefully" How is this Te

What he described sounds like Fi primary and not Te primary

I actually really like Quadras as a concept, a video on it could be interesting. Thanks for watching!

@@AsuraPsych Oh thats really good to know! I'll he waiting anxiously for the quadra videos 😃

I find those definitons of "control" and "movement" to be unsatisfying because of the lack of consistent logical principles. However I have found other insights that might lead to a better framework. The idea of control vs movement is essentially outcome vs process orientation. Control types will often tend to lock their sight on the edge of the journey, while movement types will instead be more focused on a few next steps to take. In a way, you can say that control types are more orderly while movement types are more chaotic. For example, one possible reason why all IxTJs are movement types is because their Te is a parent function instead of a hero. And although both hero and parent functions are usually strong, the parent is negativistic and passive, while the hero is positivistic and active. One interpretation is that, for IxTJs, they always have to "obey" instead of "create" Te. They are a follower of Te, not a leader. Thus, they tend to be more careful with their Te and therefore they tend to pay more attention to the steps rather than the outcome. This is different for ExTJs. Their Te is very much more active and positivistic. They take pride of it and dare to be the ones who create the rules, plans, etc. It's almost as if _they are_ the rules and the plans. I don't have the precise explanation yet but I find it intuitive to imagine Te doms being more concerned with the outcome. Another example is that an INTP will often have a goal of "true/false/undefined" conclusion in their mind (a product of active-positive Ti-Si). And that conclusion exists at the end of the process, thus the outcome-oriented question "Is it true?" always stays in their mind from the beginning to the end (this is what I mean by "lock their sight on the edge of the journey"). An INTP mathematician will say something like "If A=B and B=C, therefore A=C" → focused on the conclusion "... therefore..." (hence the informativeness of an INTP) In another case, an ISTP is much more chaotic with his Ti since it is connected to Ni (active-positive Ti-Ni). The question "Is it true?" can't really be answered with this cognition (Ti-Ni is too vague; you'll need Si for that), and that Se parent will often gravitates him toward the here and now such that, for example, when an ISTP martial artist are developing a new technique, he will be much more concerned about each of the body movements of that technique. See how Bruce Lee explains his technique; "The ideal is natural unnaturalness or unnatural naturalness", "You are keeping the continuity growing, bending, strechting", "Be formless, shapeless, like water" → focused on the process "do x, then y, then z" (hence the directness of an ISTP) P.s all odd functions are both positivistic and active, and all even functions are both negativistic and passive, but typically only the 1st, 2nd, 5th, and 6th functions are "strong". However keep in mind that there seems to be no evidence that shows that any of these attributes are static to a person's personality.

INTJs take our time to analysis and understand things. Once we’ve satisfied our need to understand something, we’re happy make up plans on the fly because there aren’t any dark corners we don’t know about. ENTJs are happy to jump into a situation then try to control it from the inside as they learn.

@@kokofan50 No way. You're thinking more of ESTJ. The secondary Ni is all about planning and visualizing as well.

@@moukhshiii7220 no, ENTJs are happy to jump in and learn along the way as they’re trying fulfill their Ni vision.

CSJ got the descriptions of movement and outcome very VERY wrong. I read his source material Dr.Linda Berrens and that's not how she describes movement/progress vs outcome at all. Being fast paced in acting is actually initiating where being slow and "controlled" is due to being responding.

Yes, definitely. The more practice you get, the more you build that “muscle.” 💪

@@MoPoppins Thanks for the response. I get a lot of reps building that muscle at work so I was just wondering. It blurs the lines sometimes between the two types.

rather than shifting to an ENTJ, the INTJ is able to use their aux function Te when there is need for it, as the second function is often associated with a tool that you have at your disposel when you need it, but one that does not nessisarily has to be used. It's jus there at your disposal

I was INTJ when I was younger I'm actually sure of it. Life and bad shit that happened forced me to change to ENTJ. It wasn't easy, it was actually hell, but it happened. So I think it's sure as fuck possible. It's only one letter after all.

I'm also an Entj and can totally understand your anger wirh sone people around you.We just care too much for everything to be right.You need to accept that you can't control or force people even if it's a good thing, it's just in our human nature to resist to that.When you see yourself getting mad or angry just shut your mouth and leave.Breathe in and out .And then come back with a lot more laid back attitude and a new plan.

Hi, @Black Swordsman When I was younger and a bit more prone to anger because even logos must deal with hormones at one point or another, I found that I was able to deflect or tamper down these Fi-ts by making myself laugh. If I threw magazines against a wall instead of throwing a tantrum, those si-lly magazines fluttering helplessly to the ground as I threw them at the hapless wall, then this ridiculousness made me giggle. Why, magazines? Because a Utiliarian Rational doesn't want to buy new dishes. Later, I discovered the true joy of pranking. revenge may better be defined as a bunch of bananas hidden in the back Se-at of a car on a hot summer day because I needed to make a point. You could also google the Vargus nerve. Simulating the Vargus nerve is suppose to reduce stress and improve your mood. I have not tried this because now I am oldish and less likely to need a good prank. There are some good online doctors who talk about anxiety and offer advice on tapping into the Vargus Nerve to reduce these feelings. I like motivational doc and dr eric berg. And Swordsman, because moms gonna mom, even an INTJ mom... have you considered taking a Fencing class? I think you would have fe fi fo fun!

>> Many ENTJs are SLE (beta quadra) and LSE (delta quadra). How did you come to this conclusion?

Many type theorists refer to jungian types within Quadras as well. Socionics quadras are defined as types that have the same functions in the value slots, which is socionics 1256, which directly correlates to mbti 1-4. In socionics LIE(ENTj) SEE(ESFp) ESI (ISFj - which is mbti isfp) and ILI (INTp - mbti INTJ) are all gamma quadra and share Fi, Se, Te, and Ni as value functions. While one "could" make up a different grouping term/definition for mbti functions quadras such as SFPs/NTJs, it would be a waste of time/energy in my opinion as we recognize these value functions as being important within the types in both socionics and mbti.

@@fadingintent Wikisocion. Also that's common knowledge. Many ENTJs throughout the history have been SLEs. Common example of ENTJ SLE: Napoleon Bonaparte.

The socionics results confused me with the INTp until I read its conclusion.

@@AsuraPsych "Many type theorists refer to jungian types within Quadras as well" Which type theorists are those? I've been studying typology for a while and I've never read that anywhere. As far as I know, quadras are non existent in MBTI. They are only used in socionics typings. Can you provide any names?

I don't have an answer for you. I just wanted to say that I, too, am an INTJ with 99% introversion.

@@abbeysparks1526 get bonked then

@@shaurya.ahasueruswaghe12 HAHSHQHAH

@@shaurya.ahasueruswaghe12 that got me for some reason

I imagine the INTJ would be more calculating of what happens next while the ISTP is focusing on what’s happening at the moment

@@kalestea Yes I imagine INTJ would take the movements and study them as a system and look for loopholes in the movements that they can exploit. Then they would deploy thus into use. ISTP would just enter the flow and fight.

Dominick Cruz (INTJ) vs Cody Garbrandt (ISTP) would be a good example. Cody is a more fluid natural striker, whereas Dom is the more cerebral yet awkward fighter due to his inferior Se.

@@kalestea intj pro mma fighter probably trained enough that he or she probably can fight like a Esfp

Intjs probably does better in sports like archery and poker compared to Istps but ISTPs probably will be better than intjs at martial arts.

it could be because isfp has inferior te function lol

You cannot escape me

Hello, fellow ISFP. I too, agree this is going on in the subconscious of our minds. ISFPs truly are a superior type.

Jung introversion and extroversion is not as simple being an extroverted in the general way people often mean it in current society. A function that does somewhat resemble the typical extravert behaviour (in the way that the word is used these days) is Fe. It is attuned to the social world, focussed outwardly. ENTJ's and INTJ's on the other hand have Te, which is aimed outside of the self, but is not really attuned to the social part of the extroverted world. it more so deals with inpersonal objectives and while it can deal with people, it's more sin a similar matter as companies deal with people. It's not really personal. Then it is the question, is this the behaviour of an introvert of an extrovert? Is the type of person who is a workoholic that works together with people on his job there but has no interest in social activities outside of his work a "social person" and thus an extrovert? Is this an introvert or an extrovert in the current description used in society now? It just depends on the defintion used, I would say.

​@@PowerRedBullTypology That makes sense, i'll look more into the different types of extraversion and the functions of Fe and Te. Thanks!

tests are never entirely accurate! you have to study functions. online tests are responsible for many mistypes

Maybe, doesn't seem like on of the more likely mistypes though. Most ENTJs mistype as INTJ I find or occasionally ENTP.

@@AsuraPsych and what about entj mistyped as intp?

I got mistyped in high school as an ESTJ and I'm an ENTJ in college.

I agree. It started as an alternative social hierarchy theory but we've seen the term transform into a meme for less than socially capable introverts over the past year or so.