Eureka Mignon Single Dose VS the Niche Zero (Review) 

Mignon or Niche? Which you picking and why? ps. Love you all and thank you for an incredible 2021.If you want to support the channel further, win giveaways and join the discord - become a Patreon for as low as $1 here: www.patreon.com/kylerowsell

I love your videos and your cheerful personality Kyle! You're so fair and honest, which make reviews like this video great!

I use a scale and I love you Kyle. Now that we've checked those boxes as requested, this was an enjoyable video. I love my Niche. I've had it for a year and a half and you hit the note -- it just works.

Yes Kyle we love you and your reviews! From one Canadian to another. Just recently got myself a Bezzera BZ 10 (I’m a total newbie but jumped right in) and love using the bottomless portafilter. Also uber-researched the Niche 0 and currently waiting for its arrival. After watching this review I’m confident I made the right choice. Best, Elisabeth.

I appreciate your reviews, especially now that I find myself in the market for a coffee grinder. You're diction is clear and you are very thorough and fair. Thank you.

I love you Kyle. I use a scale every time. I was actually going to get the Oro because the Niche supply was so hard to come by, but finally got an order in before the Oro became available and have been loving the Niche. I’m glad I did, because I think some of those workflow issues with the Oro would’ve driven me nuts, haha. Good work as always, my dude!

Nice review Love you Kyle. Proud of what you've done last year. Can't wait to see more of you in 2022!

Man, I’ve been waiting so long for this video and thank you so much!!! So glad I didn’t impulse buy the SD cuz it’s not as impressive anymore after several reviews with similar issues. I absolutely love my niche but now anxiously waiting to see what flat burr grinder to buy this year to first hand experience the conical v flat burr profiles. Glad to know I’m one of your favorites haha!

Amazing video! Glad I waited. Your content is so amazing and useful as I’m diving into this world 😂

the review we all hv been waiting. so far the best out there! awesome

Fantastic review, Kyle. I enjoy you videos so much as well as your point of view. So far I've been using the NZ for almost 2 weeks. Love every single aspect about it.

I love you Kyle. Just subscribed after watching a bunch of your videos over the last couple weeks. Really enjoy your laid back style and knowledgeable videos.

Love the videos as always. I do use a scale every time. I ordered a Niche Zero last week. The Eureka ORO single dose was on my short list but after seeing many negative/mixed reviews and posts about it, I removed it as an option. I settled on the Niche, which was one of the other main options I was considering. This video only confirms that I feel I made the right choice. I want something that works well and is consistent and doesn't need a bunch of tinkering to make it work.

Thanks for the great video. The problems with the de-clumber seem to mirror those of my Mazzer Mini-E. Thus, I won’t replace the Mazzer yet. I do use scales - cheap ones - for weighing beans before grinding and feeding my Flair 58.

Another great video Kyle. Your production quality is fantastic! More people need to discover your content. I'll keep spreading the word in my circles.

Thanks for the great video. I can’t wait for the comparison of the DF. I had high hopes for that grinder as well.

So educational...learning lots! Thanks, Kyle!

Awesome video, as always. I’m new to home brewing and just received my niche a few days ago. When I saw news of this video coming up, I was about to look into niche’s return policy lol. But having used it for a few days, I couldn’t imagine a better experience. Loving it. Also, ordered it on Dec 4, received it on Jan 14 (black, white’s an extra 30 days) Paid $122 CDN for import taxes etc. Pretty reasonable all around.

Love you Kyle! Just got an oro 2 days ago and am just trying it out....fingers crossed!

Appreciate your honesty Kyle “I was cheering for the Mignonette, but…” . I’ve been enjoying your output which has helped me with my purchasing decisions. Interesting to hear you explain the different flavour profile from conical vs flat burrs too.

love you Kyle! Appreciate the honest & smooth review

Love you Kyle! I have a Specialita which I use as a single dose style machine. I also measure my beans before they go in and after they come out. I’m really enjoying your channel!

"I love you Kyle" lol watched the whole video. I've been waiting for this video and you've helped me determine which one I'm going to get now. Thanks =)

I LOVE YOU KYLE! You really are an amazing youtuber that I've learned a lot from and absolutely can't wait for the df64 video!

Hey Kyle, keep them coming. I have a NZ and weigh always. Used for both espresso and V60. No issues, love it

Thank you for this video and the coffee community definitely loves you! I definitely use a scale because of single dosing. Also was wondering for the DF64, if you plan on utilizing SSP burrs for the comparison?

Just a comment for the algoritm and your awesome vids Kyle!! Love the aproach and donation

I use a scale. This video is especially pertinent to me. My Niche has been in daily use for about 20 months and just isn't performing as well as it used to. I've been considering a Eureka Oro for a few weeks and just didn't know if it would be a good choice. Thanks for your honest comparison. It's truly helpful.

Thanks for this video Kyle! I'm keeping my Eureka XL. Was contemplating the Single Dose.. But not after seeing the many posts on the FB Group and this video - thanks! I'd also like to try the niche at some point.

Checked everyday on RU-vid anticipating this review and it was well worth it. Thanks Kyle and I also weigh my coffee

Love this video! And yes… very much on the scale train with an Ohaus SPX2202 I use throughout the kitchen!

great and honest review video 👍🏼

Great comparison. Looking for a new grinder and this has been helpful! Also…I love you Kyle! XD

Great vid. Super useful thanks!

Great review! I love you Kyle 😉 I think I'm going for the Option-O Lagom Mini for filter coffee. I had high hopes for the Eureka and that it might be a contender but not after seeing your review.

Thanks for this video! It answered all my questions about this grinder as I was holding out hope that it would be the single dose grinder for me. It's definitely shown me that my concerns were valid as well as some problems I wasn't aware of but would really bother me especially in a $1K CDN grinder. Thanks again!

Great production and content as always 🔥 love your style, Kyle

Thane man, was waiting for this video from you 😀

Thank you Kyle for the honest review!

I love you Kyle! Thanks for the thoughtful review, although I'm glad I bought my Eureka Mignon ORO Single Dose grinder before I watched your video. Don't get me wrong, your review is quite useful. However, I have not had any of the problems with my grinder that you have had with yours I'm pretty sensitive to how motors should and shouldn't sound, and mine is fine. I am impressed with how quiet it is and I absolutely agree with you on how comforting the sound is. Also, it is within a tenth to two tenths of a gram of zero retention. My burrs are aligned out of the box and the coffee tastes great. I have some of the same minor quibbles about details that ultimately don't matter much, but overall I am extremely pleased. For me it has delivered.

Really, really loved the chart. Fantastic work. I also really loved the experience with my specialita and miss it some days vs my niche…Have a key coming hopefully sometime this year? I’m hoping for a little more clarity out of it, but we’ll see. Loving the content!

Hi Kyle, Thanks for the honest review. I got both grinders. Been working with the Eureka for a few weeks. I do like the coffee it produces. I'm disappointed, my expectations might have been too high. I wanted a flat burr grinder that you don't need to mod.Bellows don't bellow and there is some issues as you named.I prefer the coffee from the Eureka but workflow vise the NZ is a clear winner. And yeah, I use scales. Also heading for something else for a flat burrs.

Excellent comparison! Great video. Can’t wait to receive my Niche!

Thanks! I've been single dosing for a long time and am currently looking to purchase a single dose grinder. This video helped, for sure. Oh, and I love you Kyle 😉

I love you Kyle! 😁 As always, huge thank you for the great content.

Thanks for a great review and comparison. You nailed it, I was waiting on the oro (v the Niche) based upon reputation and supply. What you have said about the Niche in your use over time, I am willing to wait for the Niche when I order one.

I don't use a scale at the moment but I am planning to do it in the future. :) Great articles by the way, thank you!

Hey Kyle, thx for this interesting video. I own a Mignon XL and I actually love the timed dosing. I don't switch coffee everyday and I like the convenience of that. For the dialing in, I do use a scale of course. But once I've dialed in the grind setting and the dose, I don't use a scale every time.

Thanks a lot for your honest, detailed and therefor very helpful review!

Awesome as always Kyle.

Awesome work as usual

Hi Kyle. Nice video as usual. I knew this video was coming but I was a little hesitant to watch it. I picked up a Niche Zero about five months ago. It’s been good to me so far. I have it paired with a Rancilio Silvia pro X at the moment.

Love it Kyle! Single doser and weigh every shot. Got a mignon facile and really happy with it for the simplicity and price point. Seems like majorly diminishing returns by doubling the price. Thanks for the review!

I really loved the look of the Mignon and had planned on getting it... but got the Niche and I don't regret it now that more reviews are out. My Niche has been treating me well over the last few months but I do still wish I had that aesthetic of the Mignon with its more box-like shape.

Thanks Kyle. I fried the motherboard on my Niche (user error) and was dreading having to get a $$ replacement and was exploring options but James at Niche sent me a replacement motherboard so I'm back up and running PHEW. I love the Niche... sure for more money I could get a slightly better cup, but I'm still damn good and the user experience is just soooo easy. I always weigh beans in and coffee out (Bianca). Curious for your 64 review

Love you, Kyle!

Great video, Kyle!

Great video Kyle and I like you was really hoping this Grinder would at least equal the Niche but clearly does not. I also want to say great honesty too….. Top Man!

I do weight out coffee and single dose. I've been doing it since before it was cool. Just seemed logical to me and worked very well with the super low 0.3g retention Varatza Vario! (Low Retention before it was a thing!).

I love you Kyle!

Great review Kyle, I thought you were fair in your criticisms and expectations of the Oro grinder. I have been using a Niche for the past 7/8 months. All the stuff about the ease of use with the Niche I agree with and it's simplicity is part of the reason why I love it. Also since you asked earlier I always use a scale whenever I brew. Whether it is for espresso, filter coffee, or any other brew method. Keep up the great videos it's always a pleasure to watch! Love ya man

Another great review 🤣 that makes me want to buy more grinders. Thanks for your honesty review ❤️

Loving the love as they say. Nice review, it's interesting that these expensive tools do seem to have some fundamental design flaws. Got a house move to get through first, but after that it'll be coffee time.

Always use a scale. Even if I bought my dream grinder (Atom 75), I’d still use a scale to weigh out my doses. I found the QC on the Single Dose so disappointing and given the Niche has zero literally available (lol), I sprung for a DF64. Thanks and God bless from a Torontonian!

Amazing video kyle!!

Yes, I weigh my coffee…and water for pour over and French press. Hope to get an espresso machine soon, so I went ahead and hopped on the waiting list for a Niche. I’m eagerly anticipating it’s arrival (hopefully some time February). And yes, I stuck around for the whole video… always enjoy your content. Blessings to you and your family!

I've been using scales for cooking long before I got into coffee, so it only made sense for me to use scales for brewing as well. Weight measurement is the single most important thing you can do to raise your standard of food and drinks preparation. I'm sorry that I'm not some magical grandma that can seemingly know how much of everything goes using pinches and randomly sized tablespoons, but scales are basically the great equalizer whether in the kitchen or in the cafe.

Great video Kyle! I grind directly into the portafilter, which I have standing on a scale, using my Specialita. And I will hang on to my grinder for now. Very happy with it.

Hey, nice review. I just recently purchased and new grinder and chose the Eureka Mignon over the Niche Zero. I’ve. been using it for a few weeks now and I must say that I’m very happy with it. I agree with your take on the good aspects, but I have not experienced any of the issues you mentioned. I live a tropical country, so I believe the humidity eliminates any issue of static. I have yet to encounter the clogging or retention you mentioned. In fact, since I weigh my coffee before and after grinding, I can validate the “ultra low retention” claim of Eureka, with the grinds weighing a mere .1g lighter than the beans. As for build quality, I am happy in that department too. This machine actually replaces my old workhorse, a circa-2005 Euereka Mignon MCF 220. This machine has no issues whatsoever despite being 17 years old. All I have done for maintenance, aside from cleaning, is simple flat burrs replacement, which are so easily sourced online. It’s a testament to the impeccable build quality of this company that’s been hand- making machines in Florence, Italy since 1920. I chose them over a recently-formed English company that’s been outsourcing their manufacturing in China. Heritage matters to me.

Yes I weight out my ☕️ for sure both espresso and pour overs. I think its important for notes. I also noticed differences on dark roast being more fluffy as to medium it makes a difference in the basket. Love the info on your vids.

When I started making coffee I used that classic little grey scale that is sold under different brands, that it seems everyone has at least one of. I had that break on me at some point, and I upgraded to the Timemore Black Mirror. It’s an amazing scale, and I haven’t had any issues! Great video as always kyle. Quality just keeps going up!

Dear Kyle thank you for all the great content! I definitely weigh my beans. I am considering Mignon XL coupled to the single hopper / bellows system. Somehow I feel that the XL gives you much more than the Single Dose. I am based in Europe. The retail cost of XL + the aforementioned extras is slightly less (maybe 20euros less) than the Single Dose and 50euros less than the NICHE (VAT, shipping and all). XL has fast, timed grinding ability. Plus service locally in most countries (I consider it a serious Niche limitation). How good are the bellows + hopper combo in giving single dose capability I do not know. But for 750euros what are the better choices out there?

Great video. New to espresso here started with the picopresso and a budget grinder and was getting ok shots. Then upgraded to the Jx-pro and that instantly made a much better shot. I just recently got a gaggia classic pro and have been using that for about 2 weeks with the jx-pro and getting great results. Thinking about in the future getting a better grinder so this video was very interesting.

I use a scale. I'm brand new to making nice coffee at home. Currently doing v60s and aero press with the fellow Ode grinder. It has made such a huge difference in my every day happiness. It makes me excited to get up in the morning

I bought a DF64 when it first came out as I could never find the Niche available. However about 6 months ago I finally got the Niche and since then it has fully retired the DF64. I find the ease of use, ease of adjustment and more importantly the taste of expresso with the Niche to be excellent. I really cannot see me needing another grinder now I have the Niche, and nothing about the Oro would compell me to buy one. Thanks for the review though, it was really well done.

I weigh my beans. Thank you so much for the review. I’m gonna wait until Eureka fixes these issues before buying a Oro. And Kyle, you’re my favorite 🤟🏼🖤🤘🏼

Awesome video, thank you for the in-depth review especially for the downsides which swayed me into not purchasing the Oro. Besides the niche and DF64, what would you recommend? I'm was thinking the Perfetto but it doesn't look like it's favoured by many for some reason.

Scales all the way. Good to see an Irish coffee roast being used, as I'm based in Ireland I'm gonna have to give them a try.

It would be great to see a single dowse shootout in the same (similar) price range. If all or many of the grinders in this range are imperfect then it’s a trade off of what matters to each individual and could be an individual choice. The most important characteristic for me would be how the coffee tastes. I weight my beans every time and am in the market for a grinder around the $800-$1200 mark, Single dosing and the ability to ideally make as good filter coffee as espresso, but less often. I didn’t find that this review left me with a feeling that the Oro or Niche is a better choice.

Love you Kyle ☺️

I came here thinking - well, maybe there's a readily available and equally effective/clean/versatile/compact competitor to the Niche to look into - and you have teased me but thankfully told me the honest truth that I should probably stick with my pursuit of a Niche. And p.s. happy to be a favorite and love you too. Keep bringing that Canadian kindness, it is formidable competition to our southern hospitality in Louisiana 😁.

I like your reviews. They are quite straight to the points. Also, love how you clearly say "I prefer the clarity in Oro's shot because it's the nature of flat burr" instead of saying "Niche is not good because it produces less clarity than flat burr." > (1) less powder in the chamber (2) easier to adjust grind setting You cannot go wrong picking one over another. However, for me, I decided to keep NZ since (1) its workflow is much cleaner >> lower coffee powder scattering, cleaner coffee station. (2) I tend to brew 2 types of coffee (medium and light roast) for latte and americano. >> Less retention.

Thank you Kyle for your reviews. I do use a scale for espresso; however I am at a point where I eyeball my pourovers and French Press.

Got the XL, shortly before the SD came out. Basically identical except incline&belows - display&timer. Used it first with standard hopper, now as SD with 3d print incline stand & hopper/belows. I think the vibration is worse as SD because of idel noise without beans, it was less with standard hopper (also, the mat from the XL certainley helps isolating vibration) Cup closer to the chute helps with mess/static.

Great video Kyle. You have made my decision easier. Btw can you please do a review on the Mahlkonig X54 home grinder... 😊

Thanks Kyle, I was waiting for your review for so long. I really appreciate your insights. I canceled my Oro order and ordered a niche. The dial the the little flaws of it just drew me from it. I have a Eureka Perfetto, which did a good job for filter. But since I am now also brewing Espresso it is just a nightmare to dial in. So I am eagerly awaiting my new niche which will arrive in February hopefully. Thanks again for the review.

Great video! Can you please post links to the tilt stand, the single dose hopper, and the bellow?

The clump crusher also exists in other Eureka products. I'm surprised they didn't modify it in a way to minimize retention without adding static. Feels like Eureka just attached cheap single dose blower without any significant modification. It should be possible to add some sort of revolution indicator as the knob is rotated without redesigning the entire thing.

great vid Kyle!! SOOO wanna join the Niche Fam but taking a hit on my Specialita is hard!!

Great video, Kyle. Thank you! I currently have the Mignon Specialita but wondering if the upgrade to this or the Niche is worth it? Main reason for an upgrade would be the single dose element and workflow. Any thoughts?

This was very helpful. One review I’d like to request, and I know it won’t happen for a long time barring something crazy, I’d love to see a review of Weber’s Key Grinder. One day. Not anytime soon, but in the meantime love the videos and can’t wait for the next one. Hello from California

I own the white Niche, and black DF64, with the titanium burr option, with anti popcorn funnel and mythos clump crusher, it's called the Solo in the UK, the Solo has excellent clarity, but i do find certain beans suit the Niche, and others suit the Solo, so best of both worlds imo, and I can't pick a winner, but for ease of use, the Niche is amazing.

You have the most expressive hand gestures, that somehow remain genuine and not over the top, of anyone I have ever seen. That is all.

Excellent video, thank you for making this Kyle. One question though wouldn't it be better to do triangle testing instead of just two cups?

Please add Lagom mini too into your coming comparison. It may seems not fair for its price point, but it's a single dose low retention nonethelees. Thanks.

Hi Kyle,i am part of the nuts case person who weight his coffee. I use a scale. Love the channel thanks

I would agree with most of your points. Oro looks great and gives me much more clarity than Specialita. I have not noticed any clogging or too much static. What I do not agree is Oro for pour overs. On finer settings it creates very muddy coffee bed that cloggs the filter. On corser settings gives very uneven grinds and vibrates soo much it can rotate the knob itself. I have few videos about that on YT if you interested. Great show as always. Thank you!

You are amazing mate! Big fan! Cheers and keep safe

I got Mignon Specialita a couple of months ago, and I’m so happy that I didn’t wait for Oro. Not that I think that it’s a bad one, but it ironically can’t compete well enough with its predecessor, let alone the other brands.

I use a scale. I even have my wife using a scale. Anyway, I had been waiting on this grinder for a while, but eventually just decided to get a Niche when a black US became available. Nothing I have seen about the Mignon Oro has made me regret that for a second (I use an Ode with SSP for filter, primarily, and the Niche doesn’t *replace* my hand grinders, but is my primary espresso grinder now). The Oro really seems like a “near retail prototype” that was rushed out instead of a retail ready product. A real shame.