EV Incentives - A Free Lunch That Should Be Tossed? 

Given the last few years Nd the incredible amount of misinformation and manipulation from government and "experts", it's no surprise that people are becoming sceptical of government "incentives". Particularly when they are out of reach for so many people. I don't mind driving any vehicle, but I think if the product is good enough, you shouldn't need to legislate it. If you are legislating it before there is any sort of suitable replacement (or in the case of flat owners, anywhere to charge), then all that you are going to do is foster and grow resentment. Here in Aus you can buy an EV tomorrow, but people are willing to wait 18 months for a diesel version, and in some cases, up to 5 years for some cars. The first round of people are getting rid of their ev and some have bought another, but many are disolutioned by their experience as the product is not actually superior in everyday and they obviously needed what it was deficient at providing. Anyway, that's my 2 pennies worth.

Yes absolutely! If it wasn't for Ford and the government taking off over 17,000 on my vehicle I wouldn't have been able to afford a new car. I've been eagerly awaiting my purchase of a Ford lightning since it came out. And now I'm able to make all those older dreams come true :-) My next purchase will be a RV that I can tow with The expected range of the lightning so that I can have some fun driving around for free staring at God's waiting room :-)

I can't believe I missed this comment. Sorry! Thank you for the great feedback on what is happening in other countries - and a great point on a vehicle being considered on its merit alone, rather than using incentives. This is an important discussion. But as my video addresses, incentives have been as much for fossil industry vehicles and the underlying infrastructure as it has evs - in Canada, well into the hundred-fold range. The #s are different here too: According to CAA, over 97% of people who own evs state that they will - or have already returned - to another one. So, it has a lot to do with the driving environment, I'm guessing. Incentives here in Canada are actually structured for the lower income bracket (those above a certain point don't qualify). But what is stupid is that many of the vehicles they qualify for are too damn expensive for them to own, even with the incentive! I'm curious: what is the adoption rate in Aus? @@AllInVehicleInspections

​@truckedupevs The take up is moving, depends on what you call a success. You can buy an EV tomorrow if you want to and 8% have, but I talk to the dealers and they say they struggle to sell them. People tend to be high earners for many of them which excludes most of the population to begin with (incentives are irrelevant it seems). One dealer expressed they could sell me an EV tomorrow but their most popular car which comes in diesel has an 18 month wait, and people are still choosing that option. Another 8%ish of sales is hybrid, with the taxi market clamouring for hybrid Camrys (and government fleets) the wait time is 5 years, and they are still ordering new cars. I would call that a win but the government "new fuel efficiency standards" is set to punish manufacturers and buyers who don't buy an EV. Basically a carbon tax on ICE vehicles, now I may agree with that once all the infrastructure and vehicles are in place and available to make it viable, but if I kept more of the tax I earned, I might be able to afford an EV and it's side affects. Instead of the innafficient government handling the incentive, we could all put the money to companies that have invested in helping solve my problems instead of a government contractor who solves the government's ideology Maybe a long reply, I don't mind EV, I am trained on them, but I do mind massive amounts of my tax spent on an idea that will probably solve itself if it was allowed to mature over a decade or so. We hear how great this is in other countries, but we are not other countries and have our own challenges. Politicians around the world are all trying to implement the same rules, seemingly as part of a club, but can't take resistance when they rules aren't tailored to the country or the businesses and people that live within it. Anyway, rant over, loved the vid, and yes incentives have been around for a long time, many were pointless, like it didn't save Hummer from insolvency, just delayed it.

Great comment! Thank you for the support!

Excellent insight and great breakdown of the buying/incentive process! Yeah, a lot of things have changed in our market as well, and some incentives no longer apply due to the cap being only $70k (Canadian), much lower than the US numbers. It basically puts everything but the Pro out of reach for the foreseeable future, but that might be adjusted by government moving forward. We'll have to see.

Myself I was torn between getting the brand new Ford Rally Mustang Mach e, or finding a camper to tow with my new lightning. When Ford dropped the price by over $17,000 on my vehicle it made it clear.

That would do it 🙂@@rxibot

I'm buying a walker with a roll bar...

I really appreciate your feedback, and thank you for watching! What are your thoughts on whether we should keep them around a little longer for EVs, or have they already served their purpose - or were they a bad idea in the first place?

Thank you so much for the feedback and yeah, you nailed it.

Let them eat cake! :-)

That just makes the process of making these videos even more rewarding! Thank you so much for the feedback, Mario!

Glad you think so! Thank you!

Wow. All fantastic points, and I think making a move when it makes financial sense is just plain smart! Various government phase-out initiatives are for new passenger vehicle sales anyway, and I agree that it might get pushed back. But like the horse and carriage rig that autos replaced, it took a few decades for the complete switch.

Yeah the reason why Ford offered you such a low amount on your Camaro is because it's absolutely worthless compared to what it was when you purchased it. I wrestled with the same situation. Back when I purchased my vehicle it was when the pandemic was happening and all used vehicles were worth more than they are now. So unfortunately I had a high mileage vehicle which meant that it was just going to keep on dropping in price pretty steadily pretty heavily. So I took Ford's low offer and went upside down on my loan even though I know full well that it's about to go down even further come June.

Seems so sometimes.

Yeah, the Silverado EV looks a little scary on the price tag, especially here in Canada. It's not looking good: insideevs.com/news/705388/2024-chevrolet-silverado-ev-epa-range-specs-pricing/ LMAO. I've heard that the Ramcharger is quite the truck ;-).

I'm in Canada so I didn't see any survey in the mail where I live, but exactly - a few more years of getting the prices down and we're there. Great point on the fuel savings. Being that I went from ICE trucks to pure EV, I actually make my truck payment almost exclusively off fuel savings! Thank you for supporting the channel, joining in the discussion, and adding great insight!

@@truckedupevs I'm in Ontario, which some say is a world unto its own, but theoretically part of Canada too. ;) The survey came out in November-ish.. That said - i'm definitely not going to buy another ICE (not even a PHEV). By the time my current car dies, I'd be shocked if there wasn't an extensive enough fast charging network to cover even the remotest parts of the country. Only reason we went with a PHEV this time was because we still go into the hinterlands where charging isn't possible

Ha! Ontario rocks! DEFINITELY part of the great white north ;-) Yeah, that explains it. I believe the survey was Provincial. Good call on the PHEV. Even with our standard range truck, we manage to do a fair amount of back-country logging and mining roads to remote hiking spots, but yeah, range needs to improve for longer stuff, or more remote, strategically placed 'adventure chargers' (or a 'tidy tank' for evs - "Hello, Ford? Is this mic on?") @@taragwendolyn

Haha! Awesome Tyler! I'll have to come up with a prize ;-). Thanks as always!

All great considerations. I think the salary cap limit is absolutely ridiculous. The last time I checked, rich people burn fossil fuels as readily as everyone else. Sometimes, the bureaucratic side of things forgets to look out the window every once in a while and remind themselves what the goal is. Thanks for the comment!