he had weapons, so many weapons at Oklahoma and was horrific. He has skills but cannot process plays and doesn't go through progressions well. Reading defenses will be his issue, as it always has been. I see talent just like Zach Wilson has talent but if you cannot read defenses, then thats a huge problem.
@@dfacedagame yeah that was there now he ran a pro style offense with SC had 1 good receiver and the worst line in college football. He's one of the best processors now keep up with the times
Rattler getting a piece of that humble pie was probably the best thing to happen to him. Now he has 0 expectations and on top of that he seems more modest. He was #1 in his class for a reason.
QB1 didn’t help matters. Still, his first season as a starter was insane. Then it went downhill. Until he got to SC. He’s physically talented. He just needed for his maturity to catch up with that. I’m not saying he’s going to be a star at the next level. But he’ll be better than expected.
@@jeffkersey7186I don't think he's going to make it. He picks his receiver right after the snap and then stares them down, ignoring the play progression. He's got tunnel vision, too. These bother me more than his relative lack of athleticism.
@DvGnaps707 he had a god tier o line at ou and that did not help. He had so many plays where he had about 7 or 8 seconds and he'd throw deep ball picks. One of the worst ti ever do it. There's a reason he lost his job to a freshman and transfered out of qb University.
Rattlers clears.... it's crazy but understandable how his stock dropped so much from his early days immaturity which we ALL went through. And getting benches and transferred... Dud is still legit. Accuracy, arm talent, decision making and running a pro style offense. He's a better " SAFE" Pick than JJ McCarthy Higher Ceiling and floor.... He matured and is still young.
sometimes I wonder if these manufactured hype jobs are done by teams trying to distract those drafting above them from going after the actual QB they want and wasting their most valuable pick
@@e2rqey always is manufactured from other teams to the Media ears and out of their mouths. Every year there is somehow a generational talent. There are 40 generational talents in 1 generation somehow. In addition people looked at these QB's a year ago and said they would make a hard pass. Now all of a sudden their top 3 off the draft board? Doesn't make sense. People don't think for themselves anymore or do evaluations they go with what everyone else is going with and that's why all these teams are stuck where they are. Who cares if you get clowned for your picks. If you make the playoffs then Superbowl then that's all that matters.
@@2jyeti909at least penix has a chance to go first round late trade up if it happens, but a chance. Spencer is a bust unless taken a backup in the 5th or 6th.😊
@@2jyeti909 Going first is overrated. It means you’re going to a horrible team. It’s better to go mid to late first round to a decent team where you can sit and learn.
You know what's hilarious in the comments about Micheal Penix. He went undefeated during the season. Put that team on his back all the way to the championship. Lost against Michigan and now people say he aint that good. I tell you something else l noticed. They placed him in the second category of quaterbacks. They weren't promoting him as being a premier option at the position.
@@jermainenowels9511 he had 1 injury. Big difference compared to multiple. Penix Tore both ACLS, shoulder injuries and ankle injury. Not even comparable. The pros hit alot harder.
@@2jyeti909 tua didn’t have just 1 injury he had more than that. Bra had crucial Hip injury, Knee Patella, Leg quad, and High Ankle Sprains. Tf are u talking about not comparable. They had the same questions that yall are having now about Penix
@@jermainenowels9511 you need to do your research if you think it's comparable lmao Tua missed only 3 games due to injury in college. In comparison, Penix played just 25 of 51 games during that time and suffered a season-ending injury in each of those four campaigns. 2018 Torn right ACL 2019 Dislocated right SC joint (non-throwing shoulder) 2020 Torn right ACL 2021 Separated left AC joint (throwing shoulder)
When Penix goes and preforms like he did at Washington for 2 years with no injuries, missing no games, you will NEVER hear a word from this nay sayers. You never do. They are so smart, until they aren't. I Remember Randy Johnson and the Mariners. Management didn't want to resign him because of a previous injury. He left and went to in obscurity in Arizona, @2 more Cy Youngs and a World Series and HOF Beatles rejected by several record companies, inventor of the Xerox Copier literally tossed out the door. Someone is going to get Penix and reap the rewards.
This maybe the best quartback draft class ever. So much value at the quarterback position in this year's draft. Watch and see how many of these quartbacks from this draft find success in the league. Remember I said it
I’m a patriots fan so I’m sure we’re getting one of the top three guys but this could be one of the best QB drafts ever ever. A lot of the other teams after the patriots who need a quarterback might end up with a pretty good one.
Rattler has a natural throwing motion. Way better accuracy way more consistent. Doesn't look like if he gets hit one time he'll snap in half like pennix
@@usopenitentiary Penix' looked great. It's not always on the QB these receivers are nervous and sometimes running bad routes as well. That's why the combine is stupid though just watch the film. These guys don't even do the combine with pads on which as a football player I always thought was stupid
@@user-fs6qp2ww8oThese sorts of drills are tailor-made for Penix Jr. He's a devastating open-field passer. But he's got a small comfort zone and his accuracy goes to hell the moment he's off-balance or rushed. I don't think he'll make it as a starter in the NFL. And then, of course, there are those injuries.
@@usopenitentiaryAgreed. Rattler did OK on the short-range stuff (notice the receiver didn't have to break stride at all), but his long ball - beyond being not very accurate - is a mess over the last 5-10 yards of travel. No bueno.
@@blackmantravel6954the accuracy at the combine means a ton more than at the pro day cuz at the pro day you are throwing to guys that you are comfortable with, it’s the complete opposite at the combine, and by the tape they were both very accurate last season
Any team would rather have one of top QBs in this draft over Wendy Pickett... #steelers fans need to make it known that .500 isn't good enough next season #steelernation we want championships not wildcard loses ...
I’d like for them to draft Spencer in the third round if available. The arm talent is there. Looked a little off on the deep ball but he can make all the throws.
Neither of them are very accurate with the deep ball. I can only imagine when there is pressure in their faces. Definitely need to sit behind a veteran a year or two.
I think both of these guys will do well in the league. I like Rattler slightly better, but only because he played behind a line that couldn't block against SEC fronts week in and week out. The kid was pressured on every play, took shots from DLs every series, and still put up numbers. He learned to be tough and what it will be like at the next level.
@@Richiespice790I have respect for the SEC, but don't ever say a kid is tough enough until he faces a real NFL pass rush. They are not remotely comparable.
They both looked to struggle on first out route passes led receiver to far they both trying to hard on down field passes seen both complete those over the top down field passes easily they both good though 💯
Spencner Rattler is making his 2nd round draft prospect look better and better. I would take Rattler on a rookie deal than Fields and the 5th year option and long term contract.
Rattler still has a little piss and vinegar in him and didn't get enough air under those deep balls. Penix is sooo smooth and mature man I love the way that guy plays. I think Penix will be the best in this class and I think Rattler will be an absolute dog I've loved his potential since day 1 when he got beat out by Caleb. I think Caleb will be good but no QB in this class is good enough to turn a bad team good. The only QB to ever do that is Lamar who's team wins 30% of their games without him and 75% with him. Even the Chiefs and Patty Mahomes can not say they're that bad without him. I got Penix as the most NFL ready though, hopefully he goes to the seahawks
Rattlers mechanics are better but penix got that game presence he shines when it counts an in game his deep ball is money ill bet penix could be a great NFL quarterback in the future
Not to mention trying to say either of these 2 are the best QB in the draft. Thought it was satire. But I think whatever drugs they are on they shared with the guy doing the editing
Everything said about Penix is the same thing they said about Bryce Young. In college, Young had a great O'line and lots of weapons, but when he got to the NFL and had to adjust , he couldn't. Same will go for Penix. At least, Young can scramble.
@@TheSentry603lol this isn't about the combine.. Dude is legit better. He struggled majorly at OU because of maturity. Rattler will be the better pro he overcame so much adversity to get back on his foot.
Why would this simple throwing drill tell you any of those things you mentioned? This is simply a venue for scouts to see a guy live. To hear the ball zip and see his motion and release live. To see how he handles the opportunity to be around the NFL hype, etc.... Why are you expecting anything else?
@@joshuafinn6038The ball can zip until every mouth is zoomed up like a coat. None of that means shit… My point is, the film doesn’t lie. These dudes are like house appraisers. They’re all in on the scheme… Pay attention…
John 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
Rattler looks like a flag football amateur, but he throws quite the accurate ball.......definitely a sleeper in the draft and goes to show you that you can't judge these guys by combine numbers only............just ask Tom Brady.
@@wishanikkawouldand his attitude SUCKS!!! been coddled all his life... Apparently SC humbled him a little hopefully. QB1 was not good for his personality
@@keithjefferson16you mean sucked. He’s been exceptional at SC. Bro never complained and always talked about his teammates in interviews, he’s just grown up