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Fake Super Mario 64 World Record Caught After 12 Years 

Karl Jobst
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@karljobst
@karljobst Месяц назад
I've had some time off this month but I've got some really cool vids planned for April. Hope you've all been well. Please go and listen to the amazing series Songs of Chaos: link.michaelrmiller.co.uk/KarlJobst
@Nightcaat
@Nightcaat Месяц назад
Karl Jobst in Ohio be like: I caught someone playing normally
@agentcairney1802
@agentcairney1802 Месяц назад
Can you do a video on the soe speedrun record
@microwaveoven2
@microwaveoven2 Месяц назад
April gon b gud
@SonnyJim173
@SonnyJim173 Месяц назад
Awesome, you are 1 of my favorite channels of all time
@Theomann_
@Theomann_ Месяц назад
Can never have enough Karl Jobst videos
@soupcake3092
@soupcake3092 Месяц назад
Mario, blink 2 frames early if you're in a spliced run.
@mcblaggart8565
@mcblaggart8565 Месяц назад
Blink and you'll miss it.
@frankmarano1118
@frankmarano1118 Месяц назад
Mario don't blink & tell!
@Austin_Red
@Austin_Red Месяц назад
this is a hard quote 🔥
@ahbraveconscript997
@ahbraveconscript997 Месяц назад
It's-a-Me, Mario! [blink] [blink]
@TheReal64PoligonalMario
@TheReal64PoligonalMario Месяц назад
**blinks 2 frames early**
@rizmkw4157
@rizmkw4157 Месяц назад
you either die a speedrunning hero or live long enough to see Karl Jobst make a video about you...
@Manstam
@Manstam Месяц назад
Or charliebrown64 Still crazy how that holy moly guy wouldn't have been caught if he didn't have such a big head
@Dungeonseeker1uk
@Dungeonseeker1uk Месяц назад
People don't cheat to get a quicker time, they cheat to get a time quicker - Karl Jobst
@oldg2695
@oldg2695 Месяц назад
Well said 👊✌️
@someoneout-there2165
@someoneout-there2165 Месяц назад
🤣🤣
@somechupacabrawithinternet8866
@somechupacabrawithinternet8866 Месяц назад
this saying is one of the dumbest ones ever, what if someone wanted to live and stay a hero? will you kill them?
@LeoA05
@LeoA05 Месяц назад
Queenpwnsalot simp/husband or w/e: "Why is her blindfold run being looked at with the highest of scrutiny compared to everyone else?" Speedrunning community: Lets take a look at a Super Mario 64 record from 12 years ago and pay attention to the 64th frame blink.
@wildweasel4633
@wildweasel4633 Месяц назад
Not to mention, it was the record for only a DAY. Crazy.
@nocturnalverse5739
@nocturnalverse5739 Месяц назад
I know right? Some people just love the hunt.
@reverieofmusic436
@reverieofmusic436 Месяц назад
her simps really are some of the saddest fucking humans ever.
@skeletonbuyingpealts7134
@skeletonbuyingpealts7134 3 дня назад
Never doubt the power of autism
@snowduck6365
@snowduck6365 Месяц назад
I really love how formal Karl sounds. For me, it feels like I'm in a business meeting and my boss is talking to me about speedrunning.
@charlottecorday8494
@charlottecorday8494 Месяц назад
This should be a pinned comment
@gerryjtierney
@gerryjtierney Месяц назад
​@@charlottecorday8494send feet
@nocturnalverse5739
@nocturnalverse5739 Месяц назад
Dude has infinite credibility. If he makes a conclusion I trust it and someone better have the receipts if they doubt it, because he always has receipts.
@fannaffannaf
@fannaffannaf Месяц назад
Then your boss ends up being the best boss because he calls you an absolute legend and you KNOW your boss Karl is an absolute legend
@user-ol4dl9ks2o
@user-ol4dl9ks2o Месяц назад
His accent is pretty fun to listen to, honesly
@abandonwareguru
@abandonwareguru Месяц назад
I giggle every time I see "Billy Mitchell" in the list of patrons.
@UndertaleFan-cx2mc
@UndertaleFan-cx2mc Месяц назад
Lmao
@Connie_TinuityError
@Connie_TinuityError Месяц назад
sometimes I do wonder who exactly it is that's using the Billy Mitchell name for patreon
@Soren_Pedersen
@Soren_Pedersen Месяц назад
I didn't see that before i read this comment :P Cool easter egg, just in time for easter ;)
@robdielemans9189
@robdielemans9189 Месяц назад
Thanks for noticing, now it will make me giggle every time I see it as well.
@JD_13
@JD_13 Месяц назад
ah damn, I made a comment about this, then scrolled down and saw you already spotted it 😂 Oh well, not deleting, its too funny. Maybe Billy is a fan! lol
@Karanthaneos
@Karanthaneos Месяц назад
Dude held his spliced record unnoticed for 12 years. Ghost of Tsukushima
@VTWS
@VTWS Месяц назад
Tsukishima was also the name of a Bleach character who had the power to lie about the past…. IIRC that arc ended around 2012 so speedrunner Tsukishima possibly knew what he was doing lol
@Bleeglesplotch
@Bleeglesplotch Месяц назад
​@@VTWSkind of a trash power tbh... literally anyone can lie about the past 😂
@samakiraroyjanssen6326
@samakiraroyjanssen6326 Месяц назад
@@Bleeglesplotch yes, but when he does it, you automatically believe it... and it changes to match. if he stabbed you, and made himself your closest friend, who you told all your secrets? he knows them. every. single. one. if he strikes the ground, and made himself have been there before, setting up a trap where you're about to step? slam. the trap triggers.
@Bleeglesplotch
@Bleeglesplotch Месяц назад
@@samakiraroyjanssen6326 oh okay lol, that makes more sense hahaa
@rory8182
@rory8182 Месяц назад
@@samakiraroyjanssen6326 so reality warping, damn that seems nearly impossible to lose with. I imagine there are limits or it is on the level of All Fiction
@NeoSaturos123
@NeoSaturos123 29 дней назад
I love the phrase "SM64 scientist Pannenkoek". So absurd-sounding, such a perfect descriptor.
@MRKapcer13
@MRKapcer13 Месяц назад
"Looking for anomalies in the" -Splice- "audio track." I saw what you did there. I appreciated it.
@Zxv975
@Zxv975 3 дня назад
Omg I thought that was a production mistake and just thought "huh, Karl normally has really high standards, I wonder how he didn't notice that" and didn't think twice about it, lmao.
@deltalord6969
@deltalord6969 Месяц назад
Maybe the real cheated speedruns were the frames we spliced along the way
@atemoc
@atemoc Месяц назад
Congrats, you won the internet.
@osheroth
@osheroth Месяц назад
☠️☠️☠️
@Marzimus
@Marzimus Месяц назад
😂😂 Comment of the week! ☝️
@TheHouseOfGod269
@TheHouseOfGod269 Месяц назад
Gold
@NullScar
@NullScar Месяц назад
Yeah, as he ☝🏻said, you won Internet today! 😂
@Katliner
@Katliner Месяц назад
Cheater: You can't defeat me. Audacity: I know, but he can. Mario: *blinking*
@MarMaxGaming
@MarMaxGaming Месяц назад
So true, Mario’s eyes of truth! Poetic, honestly
@Dishanta_Goswami
@Dishanta_Goswami Месяц назад
​@@MarMaxGamingThe real Lens of Truth
@HistoricalWeapons
@HistoricalWeapons Месяц назад
Love the word choice “ancient” for gaming context. For historians we use approximately 2000 years ago
@C0Assassin
@C0Assassin Месяц назад
I love how pannekoek is referred to as the residential sm64 scientist lmao
@miljororforsprakpartiet290
@miljororforsprakpartiet290 21 день назад
Pancace is a swenglish world. you took it from us as loan world, it is pang caca in other nanguage
@FalseRadiation
@FalseRadiation Месяц назад
I see ‘Fake World Record’ , I click
@enjoisk8er811
@enjoisk8er811 Месяц назад
Some of the best content on youtube
@bartvansliedregt5482
@bartvansliedregt5482 Месяц назад
Indeed
@rinkincaid5470
@rinkincaid5470 Месяц назад
I see "Karl Jobst uploaded" and I click
@nicerhabara
@nicerhabara Месяц назад
I see a new video by Karl Jobst, I click
@pass_
@pass_ Месяц назад
I see Mario's nose, I drool in arousal
@TheShinyTresasLW
@TheShinyTresasLW Месяц назад
If shigeru has been proven to not splice his runs, and he achieved tsukishima cycle shortly after the faked run, i think we should call it shigeru cycle from now on!
@ryanclemons1
@ryanclemons1 Месяц назад
I agree
@okr765
@okr765 Месяц назад
Unfortunately Shigeru Cycle is already the name for a slower cycle
@TheShinyTresasLW
@TheShinyTresasLW Месяц назад
@@okr765 just rename the slow one to "old shigeru" 😅
@Birtheater4545
@Birtheater4545 Месяц назад
You can’t just credit someone for something they didn’t discover
@plebisMaximus
@plebisMaximus Месяц назад
@@Birtheater4545 tsukishima wasn't credited for discovering it either, just for being the first to hit it in a wr run. from how I understood it, at least.
@thomasflanagan505
@thomasflanagan505 Месяц назад
I'm a Show-off, I love showing off my Ability in something... the thought of faking it and then putting my performance out to the masses to see "My Achievement" makes me physically ill.
@EnglishTimewithMrChris
@EnglishTimewithMrChris Месяц назад
I feel the same way. When I was playing GoldenEye on the Wii I joined a hacked match with an XP booster that leveled me up way more than I should have been. I was halfway to the top level of 56 at the time and I deleted my online file and restarted and grinded all the way to a legit level 56 lol. I have always been the type that needs to 100% a game. I replayed all of Grand Theft Auto 3 because one of the decisions I made in the game caused me to be stuck at 99%.
@boiledelephant
@boiledelephant 7 дней назад
There'd be no satisfaction in it, for sure. Every time I've used cheat codes in a single player game (which is basically intended play) I just feel detached and lose all interest in the game. I guess some people just really, really need validation by any means.
@syndrac6254
@syndrac6254 Месяц назад
Bro literally got caught by the old "Blink twice if you're held against your will"
@DetectiveJones
@DetectiveJones Месяц назад
I bet when making Super Mario 64 that whoever was involved with making the blinking animations thought it would just be a cool little detail that might not be noticed or appreciated. Only to have it be the key detail that exposes Speed runners decades after the games release.
@karlcole5617
@karlcole5617 Месяц назад
they actually probably just chose it was a simple way to do it.
@themr_wilson
@themr_wilson Месяц назад
@@karlcole5617 in a cool and detailed way
@JamesClark1991
@JamesClark1991 Месяц назад
Am I the only one who appreciated the fact that they chose the number '64' for the amount of frames between blinks? :-)
@hoodedman6579
@hoodedman6579 Месяц назад
Note that there’s actually like five different types of blinking animations or something for different characters, so it seems like a bunch of people made their own separate versions, rather than one person making them all. Of course, only Mario’s are likely to be useful for checking for cheating.
@tobiasha93
@tobiasha93 Месяц назад
@@JamesClark1991 That's prob just because it's a power of 2 (I know the console was named after it as well - still not necessarily a gimmick but intended). Back when the game released optimizing games with small stuff like that was actually still done. Not like today where developers just ignore any optimization and expect endusers to have nasa computers.
@jnub
@jnub Месяц назад
its nuts how people know so much about this game that they now have an essentially bulletproof way to detect splicing based off of the player character blinking. insane.
@dextersdead
@dextersdead Месяц назад
insane
@lajeandom
@lajeandom Месяц назад
but wait I'm a bit confused...I understand that the eyes blink at the same exact time consistently, but what is used here is a number of frames right? But depending on the tool used for recording the speedrun in question, and final FPS rate of the video...wouldn't that affect the data? I mean an old video with very low quality is not the same FPS as a recorded video of today on OBS with high bitrate and 60 fps recording...How are they sure that the recording didn't miss a frame somewhere and therefore, that would be why the counting is off?
@skotiaH2O
@skotiaH2O Месяц назад
​@@lajeandom My guess is that the problem doesn't subsist because Mario 64 is also a very old game, but i'm not sure
@yourmomsboyfriend3337
@yourmomsboyfriend3337 Месяц назад
@@lajeandomvideo framerate is consistent, regardless of how old the software is. It would be simple multiplication to calculate the difference to the video’s framerate and the game’s. Video stuttering and freezing is more difficult, but you’re forgetting that the blink timer should be consistent the entire run. You could easily calculate the frames dropped during a video freeze by analyzing Mario’s movement or more consistent elements
@Eliholz
@Eliholz Месяц назад
@@lajeandom iirc Drogie goes into more detail on this (linked in the description). Basically they take a 1-2 frame error into account, but it shouldn't deviate more than that even with different frame rates, especially with 60 fps being a multiple of Mario 64's 30 fps.
@orion.6
@orion.6 Месяц назад
Its nice to see a sponsor thats actually good. I loved the first 2 books in the series and ill read book 3 soon.
@Jansenbaker
@Jansenbaker Месяц назад
Happy to hear this series is getting out there. Didn't expect it to pop up here.
@Michael_R_Miller
@Michael_R_Miller Месяц назад
Thanks for reading!! Hope Defiant keeps up the pace for you :)
@miljororforsprakpartiet290
@miljororforsprakpartiet290 21 день назад
i usally scroll past that so i did not see the sponser its win wiin
@prodfrxsty
@prodfrxsty Месяц назад
i’m afraid of people who can memorize frames and compare it to gameplay even if i am doing nothing wrong
@SpilledShelf5
@SpilledShelf5 Месяц назад
There's going to be a point where cheating detecting is so advanced scores from the 1800s are going to be absolutely pounded
@starwing1795
@starwing1795 Месяц назад
the more advanced we get at detecting, the older the runs we check are
@THEGRUMPTRUCK
@THEGRUMPTRUCK Месяц назад
"Four score and seven years ago, our president, Abraham Lincoln, set this Speedrun record in Super Mario 64. Thanks to countless people sifting through old footage for thousands of hours, new technology has shown Abraham Lincoln might have faked this speedrun."
@MG-gt6hp
@MG-gt6hp Месяц назад
"Mrs. Elanor Bartleby of Gary Indiana THOUGHT she could get away with cheating her 1879 potluck social pinochle score, but I SEE ALL."
@manga_accurate_angel
@manga_accurate_angel Месяц назад
I wonder if it'll be harder to detect cheating in black and white.
@davidjsaul
@davidjsaul Месяц назад
I don't think so, these so-called detectives just weren't there to see the run start in second gear!
@Talon323
@Talon323 Месяц назад
Quite litereally a "blink and you'll miss it" way to find splices.
@thegrossmeyer
@thegrossmeyer Месяц назад
Was literally thinking earlier today how I hadn’t seen a new Jobst video in a while and here is a new video! Great insight as usual, who would’ve thought the way they programmed Mario’s eye blinks would be so important nearly 30 years later!!
@s1a-l8r15
@s1a-l8r15 Месяц назад
I was waiting for when you covered this discovery, it amused me how such a small animation detail can uncover so much in the case of cheaters.
@Neckromorph
@Neckromorph Месяц назад
At this point ways of catching cheaters in speedrunning has become an art in of itself.
@Smoove_J
@Smoove_J Месяц назад
The amount of effort and expertise is pretty ridiculous at every level. This splicing thing sounds like something out of a spy movie.
@chillstoneblakeblast3172
@chillstoneblakeblast3172 Месяц назад
Forensics is a Science field after all
@themonsterunderyourbed9408
@themonsterunderyourbed9408 Месяц назад
Someone should speed run catching fake speed runs.
@tombailey1059
@tombailey1059 Месяц назад
It's almost like competitive video gaming is a waste of everyone's time.
@ascott7321
@ascott7321 20 дней назад
Dat SM64 scientist.
@densai89
@densai89 Месяц назад
It’s like cracking a cold case. They think they can get away but someone’s always watching.
@0palOpal0pal
@0palOpal0pal Месяц назад
I'd love to see the folks who comb speedruns like this do something like investigate camera footage from cold cases. Who knows what they could notice? It'd be a little like the hackers who find missing people not only to help, but as a challenge.
@Ashfold_Eberesche
@Ashfold_Eberesche Месяц назад
Man, even though I knew about this method I still watched the whole video and the 12 minutes flew by. That's why you're one of the very few channels that I'm subscribed to and have "rung the bell" so I see every video you post. I've literally watched every video on your channel and I consider it time well spent. Also, big congratulations on 1M subs - I don't remember how many you had when I initially subscribed (I want to say I remember it being sub 100k? I remember I first started watching when you did your first Doom Eternal video and then uploaded a Celeste video next and from there I was hookeD) but that's an insane milestone and you 100% deserve it. All the best from across the gap in NZ, Ashfold.
@jimmyrotten1652
@jimmyrotten1652 Месяц назад
Glad you're back. I was just checking yesterday to see if I missed anything and saw that it had been a while.
@hellterminator
@hellterminator Месяц назад
Drogie: I'll protect the cheater's privacy and call him Hasu64. Karl: *TSUKISHIMA*
@LilacMonarch
@LilacMonarch Месяц назад
I was wondering why the name didn't sound familiar. Totally forgot about the fake name thing
@ZenoDovahkiin
@ZenoDovahkiin Месяц назад
I mean, I think it's fair. If you're proven beyond reasonable doubt to be a cheater, I don't think the accusation has any responsibility to hide your identity whatsoever.
@hellterminator
@hellterminator Месяц назад
@@ZenoDovahkiin Oh, absolutely. And morality aside - as I commented on the original video - I think it's actually counterproductive. Making any would be harassers invest the (couple minutes of) effort into identifying the cheater makes them _more_ likely to follow through with the actual harassment. I was just tickled by the juxtaposition.
@BUTTNUTT69
@BUTTNUTT69 Месяц назад
It's called virtue signaling. He wants the moral high ground with no responsibility.
@CommandoBlack123
@CommandoBlack123 Месяц назад
Imagine not naming a cheater by their account name
@Deeptunester
@Deeptunester Месяц назад
This is the speedrunning equivalent of genetic genealogy being used to solve 50+ year old crimes. Fascinating stuff.
@RandomGuy0987
@RandomGuy0987 Месяц назад
The algorithm just served me a bunch of videos about true crime and the advent of dna forensics... coincidence?
@BlountForce
@BlountForce Месяц назад
I’ve seen every video now that you’ve done in the last 3-4 years, at least within 24 hours of the upload. I love your channel
@FurryNonsense
@FurryNonsense Месяц назад
"How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?!"
@Rislear
@Rislear Месяц назад
kinda funny that Drogie went out of his way to not name the cheater but then Jobst airs him out without a care in the world.
@MetaKnight68
@MetaKnight68 Месяц назад
as soon as I saw the Drogie video i was like "karl's gonna do a video on this and name them isn't he" and sure enough, here we are
@LoWsDominios
@LoWsDominios Месяц назад
If you dont wanna get exposed for doing bad things dont do them in the first place. Plain and simple. Edit: I find fitting that if tbe record was public, the exposing should be too, regarding that It altered public records on a public competition.
@mandowarrior123
@mandowarrior123 Месяц назад
In Japan you get in trouble for defamation even if the allegations are true.
@jkazos
@jkazos Месяц назад
@@mandowarrior123 Stuff like that makes me glad to be in the US, despite the other problems we still have. Losing freedoms makes it harder to keep from losing everything else.
@bomric1788
@bomric1788 Месяц назад
Not name-and-shaming video game hackers/cheaters is such empty virtue signaling. It's a video game, not SA or something
@GaussianEntity
@GaussianEntity Месяц назад
The weird thing is that Pannenkoek made the blinking video a long time ago, including the mechanics of blinking. Surprising that it took much longer to translate that into an anticheat tool.
@jordananderson2728
@jordananderson2728 Месяц назад
Just like with most discoveries, it's super easy to see that there's a neat new thing that you can use, but it's incredibly hard to translate that into actual use.
@TrianglePants
@TrianglePants Месяц назад
YuGiOh cards that become "broken" years later, in a nutshell.
@Scarage21
@Scarage21 Месяц назад
I often like to say: "life only consists of simple ideas, you just need to have them". Many times a discovery feels so obvious after the fact, but before, simply no one had the idea. Like with the TM cheating scandal. We could have figured out 10 years ago that you can watch the input of a replay, but no one thought about it until someone did ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@absolutelysobeast
@absolutelysobeast Месяц назад
Dude! That Donkey Kong Country 2 music in the background was an EXCEPTIONAL choice. Talk about memories…. Thank you so much
@realhojo4
@realhojo4 Месяц назад
Another amazing video, as usual. Thanks for the content!
@ElMaxRaikkonen
@ElMaxRaikkonen Месяц назад
I read 12 years later My mind: ooh so 2005 Reality: 2011 Me: 😮😮
@huguesdepayens807
@huguesdepayens807 Месяц назад
Yes, I'm 20 not 14.
@caileyrookids
@caileyrookids Месяц назад
@@williampotter3369 They were saying the run happened in 2011, not that it's currently 2011.
@miljororforsprakpartiet290
@miljororforsprakpartiet290 21 день назад
ahahahah h no you tub in 2leek5 :P there was not even xbox
@MrEW1985
@MrEW1985 Месяц назад
Far more sophisticated than Billy Mitchell's work
@thisisfyne
@thisisfyne Месяц назад
Billy would have a fake official plaque claiming his Mario blinking is legit.
@Tolly7249
@Tolly7249 Месяц назад
Videos like this are why I love this channel so much. I learn cool new esoteric things about video games and speedrunning that I never even considered before!
@miljororforsprakpartiet290
@miljororforsprakpartiet290 21 день назад
escootric ????
@mrboberson7424
@mrboberson7424 Месяц назад
I love that the audio was cut together while you were explaining splicing
@GregorDuckman
@GregorDuckman Месяц назад
"Mario 64 Scientist" Now wait just a damn min- "Pannenkoek" P r o c e e d.
@napoleonfeanor
@napoleonfeanor Месяц назад
Pancake?
@Platinscar
@Platinscar Месяц назад
@napoleonfeanor It's from a meme, I think it's pancake in dutch​
@Liqoh
@Liqoh Месяц назад
@@PlatinscarYeah it translates to pancake in dutch
@fizzybossyt8675
@fizzybossyt8675 Месяц назад
​@@Platinscarmeme? I thought that was just the name of someone involved in Mario speedrunning. Or am I misunderstanding you?
@Platinscar
@Platinscar Месяц назад
@@fizzybossyt8675 maybe it's both
@Michael_R_Miller
@Michael_R_Miller Месяц назад
Thanks for helping to spread the word on Songs of Chaos, Karl! A big thank you from me to anyone who checks the books out. I really hope you enjoy them :D
@LachlanMiller
@LachlanMiller Месяц назад
Great to see you are still writing. I read the Eragon books as they came out - will be checking out your new series.
@toastle8005
@toastle8005 Месяц назад
The moment he compared it to Eragon, I took notice, and thought ‘damn, this might actually be interesting, I haven’t read an actually great fantasy series in a while’. Then the picture came up of the servant boy wearing an eye covering like the rescued dragon, and for the first time in years, I actually clicked straight off to the product being advertised, mid-video. Screw you, in thirty seconds you’ve got me genuinely interested and the concept sounds brilliant. *I’ll take your entire 70-hour stock*
@theoutsiderjess4869
@theoutsiderjess4869 Месяц назад
Eragon is really good definetly checking it out
@Michael_R_Miller
@Michael_R_Miller Месяц назад
@@LachlanMiller Erm I am not Paolini haha - but if you liked Inheritance you'll probably like my Songs of Chaos series
@Michael_R_Miller
@Michael_R_Miller Месяц назад
@@toastle8005 well thank you! I hope you love the adventure so far
@NickMineboom
@NickMineboom Месяц назад
Hi you absolute legend..I love your vids but i didnt see any outlat speedrunning videos and i think the scene there really deserves some recognitions
@damians.7859
@damians.7859 Месяц назад
Super entertaining video! Really clever technique, I wonder if there are any other hidden ways yet to be discovered.
@bouboulroz
@bouboulroz Месяц назад
Mario blinks every 64 frames. Damn, the devs were really having fun with the hidden references. I wonder how many more values they just set at 64 in the game.
@kennyslg8914
@kennyslg8914 Месяц назад
I was thinking the same thing!
@shiytp
@shiytp Месяц назад
They aren't all references. There are hardware limits in the console's 64-bit processor and they use this sequence for consistency in the programming.
@yourmomsboyfriend3337
@yourmomsboyfriend3337 Месяц назад
@@shiytpyes, and do you know where they got the name for the console and the game? The processor architecture. It’s still a reference. They didn’t have to put timers on the bit architecture of the CPU when this game was written in C
@plebisMaximus
@plebisMaximus Месяц назад
@@shiytp My brand new Ryzen 7900X is also a 64 bit processor. It's not really all that limited by anything but clock speed and the fact it was single core. I don't believe there's anything really significant about the number 64 to a 64 bit processor that makes the code more consistent. It's probably either an easter egg just for the devs or more or less random.
@whuzzzup
@whuzzzup Месяц назад
@@shiytp Yes, as we all know, the highest number is 64 and thus he can not blink any slower. /s No this is certainly not a hardware limit, lol.
@xavierstanton8146
@xavierstanton8146 Месяц назад
That's crazy to me. Who would think about checking the blinking of Mario of all things to find splices
@plebisMaximus
@plebisMaximus Месяц назад
Same type of people who busted another long standing cheated record in Super Meat Boy because a little animated icon in the corner was off by a few frames lol. These people care a lot.
@antoniob6143
@antoniob6143 Месяц назад
There are people who like to explore small details and stuff that regular people don't mind
@wacpj1929
@wacpj1929 Месяц назад
Same type of people who exploit parallel universes in order to optimize arbitrary game metrics. We're talking about a goddamn legend
@frijolitoazul4343
@frijolitoazul4343 Месяц назад
I guess this is the same as looking for any kind of idle animation on characters or ambience inside the game, except the blinking is obviously much more hidden and unnoticeable at first, but if an animation such as mario's blinking is consistent during a whole speedrun attempt then that animation should be as much bulletproof evidence as mario's blinking here, we just gotta find these animation cycles in games
@popdg2412
@popdg2412 Месяц назад
To be fair, Mario is always on screen so if there was anywhere to check it's on him
@OakCityGamers
@OakCityGamers Месяц назад
Keep it up. I heard about this a couple weeks ago. Thanks for the signal boost on some stuff
@jonschaub7574
@jonschaub7574 Месяц назад
I love how you break down the cheat and the discovery methods from a technical perspective. Keep doing what you do ♥
@illogicalJason
@illogicalJason Месяц назад
“Remember, no speed runner wants to be exposed by Karl Jobst”
@Skoopyghost
@Skoopyghost Месяц назад
I am not gay, but Karl looks like he works out. If anyone can expose themselves to me. It's better to Karl than out of shape old guy.
@urlocallazerbird8531
@urlocallazerbird8531 Месяц назад
@@Skoopyghost what the hell is this comment?! LMFAO
@asaasa7900
@asaasa7900 Месяц назад
@@urlocallazerbird8531 Look I mean I am gay, Karl DOES look pretty nice. Still uhh... a weird comment?
@P_l_B
@P_l_B Месяц назад
What pisses me off the most in cases like this is that the guy clearly had the skill to speedrun at a high level but either got impatient or greedy. I'm sure if there was a solid system in place to easily detect fake runs speedrunning would have another big surge in popularity but sadly we live in a world where Karl Jobst delivers great vids exposing a small amount of the caught cheaters, at least we get that positive out of it.
@aspuzling
@aspuzling Месяц назад
I think this has been mentioned in other Karl Jobst videos but there is a tendency for highly skilled players to feel justified in cheating because they think they have the skills necessary to achieve a record anyway. Often they will say something like "I was only speeding up the time it would take to grind to get the right RNG for WR". They think it's not cheating because they are just tipping the scale of luck rather than skill. Even in a run like SM64 where RNG is less important, you can argue that whether you get BLJ on your first try is just a matter of luck once you know how to do it.
@plebisMaximus
@plebisMaximus Месяц назад
@@aspuzling I think the exact quote he's used a few times is they "Don't cheat to get a faster time, they cheat to get a time faster", which sums it up real nice.
@tobiasha93
@tobiasha93 Месяц назад
@@aspuzling If I remember correctly it was in the Dream video. Definitely in a minecraft one though. They "deserve" a world record so instead of grinding the hours they reduce the grind required to get that one good RNG run. Absolutely ridiculous dogshit take but apparently it helps them sleep at night.
@cheetah219
@cheetah219 Месяц назад
They're basically gaslighting themselves into believing they worked hard enough to be the best when in reality they simply didn't and they took a record away from people who did put in the work. That's the worst part.
@Dr_Andracca
@Dr_Andracca Месяц назад
@@plebisMaximus I'd actually be cool with a "best splits" or a "low/no RNG" category. It'd kind of be like a set-seed thing imo. Sure, it may be more of a practice-category and probably wouldn't be as popular, but is someone setting a speed record for a split while practicing not still impressive?
@GhostLyricist
@GhostLyricist Месяц назад
I can't believe the speed running community counts the number of blinks Mario does an entire run to confirm or deny a world record. That's some next level dedication
@randovidupload9422
@randovidupload9422 Месяц назад
It is actually pretty sad...
@michelvanderlinden8363
@michelvanderlinden8363 Месяц назад
excellent video! Its interesting to see how far speedrunning anti-cheat detection has come over the years!
@abloogywoogywoo
@abloogywoogywoo Месяц назад
Cheaters don't deserve anything named after them. Remove Tsukishima cycle, and replace it with Blink-and-you-will-miss-it cycle. :)
@LilacMonarch
@LilacMonarch Месяц назад
Like in Link's Awakening when you steal and then his name gets changed to THIEF, we should call it CHEATER cycle
@ProperDev
@ProperDev Месяц назад
I'm stealing this for my next run. Love this title lol.
@Dr_Andracca
@Dr_Andracca Месяц назад
@@LilacMonarch The splice cycle works too.
@Dr_Andracca
@Dr_Andracca Месяц назад
Shorten it to the BAYWMI("bay-me" or "baw-me") cycle maybe? Also what's fucking stupid is we could just make a new category that allows for splicing together your best splits. Sure, it may not be as popular as standard runs, but I'm sure people would still be interested in being able to upload their best splits. That way failed attempts/old runs aren't just fully trashed.
@miljororforsprakpartiet290
@miljororforsprakpartiet290 21 день назад
karl is cheater too ^_^ i deserve a Pocal
@ScrubMyTub
@ScrubMyTub Месяц назад
Tsukishima Cycle? More like Splicer Shuffle
@hariman7727
@hariman7727 Месяц назад
Or Cheater Cycle.
@aidanhogan-thomas1797
@aidanhogan-thomas1797 Месяц назад
Just make it shigeru cycle. Call the other one old shigeru, now the guy who hit it in a run for the first time has the name.
@hariman7727
@hariman7727 Месяц назад
@@aidanhogan-thomas1797 that works too.
@huguesdepayens807
@huguesdepayens807 Месяц назад
Tsukishima shaker
@hlcyn7
@hlcyn7 Месяц назад
1:39 “Historically, the most common way to detect splicing is by looking for anomalies in the” *audio splice* “audio track.” Very smooth, Karl
@JP-st9hn
@JP-st9hn Месяц назад
Love these! Thanks man!
@bellermVA
@bellermVA Месяц назад
Just like Link is called Thief once you steal something in the shop, we should call the cycle the "Cheater Cycle" now.
@mtb1392
@mtb1392 Месяц назад
Drogie: “I’m not going to give their name bc they’ve already been punished” Karl: “Yeah so here’s a picture of his house” 😂
@dafeac
@dafeac Месяц назад
F@ck I know, I watched Drogie and I was ok with not knowing who it was, it was very wholesome of Drogie to do that, now is awkward
@TheMiracleMatter
@TheMiracleMatter Месяц назад
@@dafeac It was very dumb because he didn't even hide the name properly. I could see it on his own video at approximately 4:47 iirc.
@sailor5853
@sailor5853 Месяц назад
It was stupid to go out of your way to protect a nickname of a speedrunner
@BobbyBlackhearts666
@BobbyBlackhearts666 Месяц назад
Karl, you Absolute Legend. I've started to worry, and just last night found out what you've been going through recently. I wish you the best of health and lots of time to rest up with your family! Thank you for your perseverance and work! Take good care of yourself!
@krievv
@krievv 28 дней назад
Wait that's actually kinda cool how actual books are giving out sponsors. At first I thought it was just an audible ad lol.
@Rickfernello
@Rickfernello Месяц назад
This makes me feel a bit sad, because even though cheat finding methods have been advancing, this shows that even old scores can stick around for this long, and cheating methods themselves also advance. It's important to keep increasing standards for speedrunning and challenge running that makes cheating more unlikely. Finding that stuff from blinking is very genius, really shows how deeply runners understand the games they play. Thanks for the video!
@tobiasha93
@tobiasha93 Месяц назад
It's also sad on another level. You'd think before speedrunning got as popular as it is today the people actually had some sort of honor code about it. But apparently not. Cheater galore since day one.
@vtubersubs3803
@vtubersubs3803 Месяц назад
It's not really that genius. The way these people analyze the game it's actually shocking it took until now for someone to realize the consistent blinking could be used to detect spliced runs.
@JackHarb89
@JackHarb89 Месяц назад
I on and off follow different Speed Runners, but I can't get enough of these dramas. Not especially because of the drama, but because I admire the dedication of the speed running community to come up with all these ideas to fight cheating. The depth of the knowledge is astounding. Just crazy. So inspiring :)
@PianoCinematix
@PianoCinematix Месяц назад
They should change the name to "blink cycle," lol. Great video, as always, mate. Thank you.
@jeremiah5511
@jeremiah5511 Месяц назад
"I did not cheat, its bOolshit! Im not a cheater, i did NAHT." "Oh hey karl jobst." *edit* I really can't believe so many of you guys know about The Room. In fact I don't BELIEVE this many people know about The Room
@Anon-lu6ct
@Anon-lu6ct Месяц назад
😂
@Mzero00x
@Mzero00x Месяц назад
I understood that reference!
@infjmale91
@infjmale91 Месяц назад
"I lost the run to RN- Karl Jobsts".
@john_blues
@john_blues Месяц назад
(Throws water bottle)
@Gigawood
@Gigawood Месяц назад
Beautiful 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@jonro1091
@jonro1091 Месяц назад
You want the truth? Just look into Mario’s eyes.
@miljororforsprakpartiet290
@miljororforsprakpartiet290 21 день назад
TETTE MIIII! MARIÅÅÅÅÅ! :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
@StickFiguresMaster
@StickFiguresMaster 19 дней назад
YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!
@jeverydk
@jeverydk Месяц назад
Massive shoutout, to actually having a sponsorship, that potentially could get some people to read a book (if they dont listen to the audiobook)
@Michael_R_Miller
@Michael_R_Miller Месяц назад
Read or listen, I don't care so long as you're enjoying the story!
@SamWeltzin
@SamWeltzin Месяц назад
Glad I could watch Drogie's video first and then watch this one and get some new things out of it. That's why I like this channel: There's always a proper amount of Karl's own research and explanation put into the videos.
@whoons4701
@whoons4701 Месяц назад
Grats on 1 mill subs Karl!
@Anon-lu6ct
@Anon-lu6ct Месяц назад
This is shocking with someone who was supposed to be a foundation for SM64 speed running
@jaredbeckwith
@jaredbeckwith Месяц назад
Looking at spectrograms of the audio is genius! We use similar tech to detect seizures from changes in brain wave frequencies.
@RobertMcKinnonMainChannel
@RobertMcKinnonMainChannel Месяц назад
so crazy, it's great to see this stuff coming to light!!
@sachagd8796
@sachagd8796 Месяц назад
pannenkoek being called a super mario 64 scientist is so funny
@RadkeMaiden
@RadkeMaiden Месяц назад
He literally is, though. He makes a theoretical framework for what is possible in SM64, and then be backs up his hypotheses with experimental evidence.
@thisisfyne
@thisisfyne Месяц назад
because it's true
@LonelySpaceDetective
@LonelySpaceDetective Месяц назад
I mean is it wrong?
@sachagd8796
@sachagd8796 Месяц назад
@@RadkeMaiden yeah i know that, but like calling somebody who play/create TAS for a video game a scientist will always be funny to me. I think you see what i mean, like the common perception of scientist is quite different from people like pannenkoek even though i agree that based on the definition, we could call pannekoek a scientist.
@miljororforsprakpartiet290
@miljororforsprakpartiet290 21 день назад
Tchae maybee the sort of hening employer :P he misses a detail so he is catch
@CriticalNobody
@CriticalNobody Месяц назад
It's always fascinating to see how the smallest detail snowballs into the complete deconstruction of a record. Also hope you're doing well after the surgery Karl!
@TransRightsMatter
@TransRightsMatter Месяц назад
5:40: Audio irregularity in your audio irregularity. Recursion.
@user-pq5hq6rd2j
@user-pq5hq6rd2j Месяц назад
thank you for this video karl. im so happy you uploaded
@PureNrGG
@PureNrGG Месяц назад
I'm sorry to say Karl, but there is another explanation for Mario's inconsistent blinking. His game cartridge was dirty, and we all know dirty cartridges can cause all sorts of weird scenarios. It explains every single time a "cheated" moment pops up. Ps. This is 100% sarcasm
@mandowarrior123
@mandowarrior123 Месяц назад
I'm a physician, mario must have been nervous.
@PureNrGG
@PureNrGG Месяц назад
@@mandowarrior123 it's a shame we live in a world where if someone blinks wrong, they get cyberbullied 😭
@cursedcancersurvivor
@cursedcancersurvivor Месяц назад
Mario had dry eye. Many such sad cases. 😔
@Hublium
@Hublium Месяц назад
no it was a rogue cosmic ray
@benfrese3573
@benfrese3573 Месяц назад
@@cursedcancersurvivor it's horrible
@ki11m3please325
@ki11m3please325 Месяц назад
YAY!! Just noticed the 1 million. You deserve every single one of them with your hard work. Gratz man!
@JW-qd3ol
@JW-qd3ol 28 дней назад
This is awesome!! I love the thinking outside the box!
@zipixx
@zipixx Месяц назад
I rarely ever click on ads, but you got me here. Good sponsorship choice. Never had an audible subscription. Starting the Ascendant audio book right now. Cheers!
@cubinator3826
@cubinator3826 Месяц назад
12 years without getting exposed is crazy.
@TheMiracleMatter
@TheMiracleMatter Месяц назад
At least Truth and Justice *eventually* caught up to him.
@miljororforsprakpartiet290
@miljororforsprakpartiet290 21 день назад
not really it is getting diffisylt because all run is now the same . and all may be splicing so they cant shame one without getting banned themself
@cubinator3826
@cubinator3826 20 дней назад
@@TheMiracleMatter yeah
@starwing1795
@starwing1795 Месяц назад
cheater: *cheats* cheater when they get caught: guys i swear i wasn’t cheating
@jeremiah5511
@jeremiah5511 Месяц назад
Bro, you just don't know how the game works bro, I'm not cheating
@orvilleredenpiller338
@orvilleredenpiller338 Месяц назад
Yes, that is how it works.
@Fleckandpeck
@Fleckandpeck Месяц назад
Google search “siege cheaters Wojack meme” 1st result
@byefelicia92
@byefelicia92 Месяц назад
bot ass comment
@minirop
@minirop Месяц назад
'tis just a Dream.
@junglekun22
@junglekun22 Месяц назад
Was not expecting a pannenkoek name drop here but hell yeah I’m glad people are discovering him.
@Arathrum
@Arathrum 12 дней назад
the level of commitment, expertise, investigation and detail of your videos (and the entire community) never ceases to amaze me. i always had great admiration and fascination for speedrunners and never realized how deep some of these rabbitholes go. even for legitimate runs, so let alone the cheating part of things. thanks for the outstanding content. you have an extremely well balanced format (in all of your videos) that goes into the lore, detail and history to the point it's understandable for anyone with hardly any prior knowledge like myself.
@PopADoseYo
@PopADoseYo Месяц назад
Always look forward to a video from Karl!
@luke2806
@luke2806 Месяц назад
in the current online landscape of streaming and pro gaming being a highly popular and financially lucrative thing, cheating in a game is like robbing a bank with no possibility of jail time. bad people can just cash out big time by being fake (and they are) and theres probably a LOT of people on twitch and youtube cheating right now. some of the biggest creators have been caught cheating, and even in huge tournaments theres people caught cheating.
@OCDistic
@OCDistic Месяц назад
I’ve been scratching at my arms and pulling my hair waiting for Karl to throw more videos out. These are like Crack, please post more 😭
@AnotherSeeker
@AnotherSeeker Месяц назад
I saw this Thumbnail, and Karl, and I clicked thinking to myself " oooohh, he got another one." Love it.
@BarelyRunning
@BarelyRunning Месяц назад
Congratulations to 1 mil subscribers. Always enjoy your videos.
@bunnygirl8
@bunnygirl8 Месяц назад
whilst it makes sense it was just forgotten due to how short it lasted and such, i do find it interesting this record wasn't mentioned at all in summoning salt's 16 star video, where he specifically said he wouldn't mention cheated runs, yet it of course wasn't known as cheated at the time
@athyscollection
@athyscollection Месяц назад
Thanks for the upload, most insightful.
@slowestbro1353
@slowestbro1353 6 дней назад
I really like that you were sponsored by a specific like book series. That's so cool
@BladeCrossEXE
@BladeCrossEXE Месяц назад
My friends, it just keeps happening- Wait, wrong speedrun channel.
@SunnyTacos
@SunnyTacos Месяц назад
I love watching these videos, they are so informative, I love speedruns but I don’t speedrun myself because I lack the skill and patience, but even after watching hundreds of these across the years I still cant really tell if a run is fake or not, it amazes me to see how the community is so dedicated and talented to notice even the smaller details, thanks a bunch Karl you always tech me new stuff.
@xSimone92x
@xSimone92x Месяц назад
Missed you, Karl! Great video!
@battle00333
@battle00333 Месяц назад
At 10:20 with the healthbar moving you can also see the timer lingering on 36.7 just a bit longer than the other numbers. its a fraction but noticeable.
@doodle1565
@doodle1565 Месяц назад
Here to feel like an absolute legend
@Anon-lu6ct
@Anon-lu6ct Месяц назад
I’m feeling it now 🧽
@xdx1990
@xdx1990 Месяц назад
Grats on the 1M subs, stoked for you man.
@TaranAlvein
@TaranAlvein Месяц назад
Wow. It's amazing what simple details go overlooked for so long, only to become important later.
@richardthemagician8991
@richardthemagician8991 Месяц назад
I'm glad you're recovering and back to work.
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