I love how either way you interpret this scene it works. Either Tony got whacked in front of his family, or he didn’t and this scene makes us experience the paranoia and anxiety Tony will always feel until he dies.
I've always thought this was the point. The show gave the external view of Tony for 6 seasons, then 5 minutes at the end of unbearable internal dread and anxiety of what he lived every day, and then it stopped, leaving the ambiguity, but to continue that way would be unbearable for the viewers. Also they had told the story they wanted, and this is fiction. So yes it does just end. I've always liked it.
Tony was shot dead at the restaurant. I saw the episode the first time around and had outraged viewers bothered to watch the end credits, It stated "The Sopranos: RIP". A fantastic ending to an iconic series.
Paranoia is what Tony lacks in this scene, and the lack gets him killed. One of the threads in the scene is that he is in an idealized American place rather than an immigrant-Italian place. There are numerous examples in the show of Tony trying to have one foot in both worlds from his McMansion, to going to a shrink, to trying to have non-mob friends and golfing buddies, etc.. Tony going to the diner renders him comfortable after coming down from the hyper-vigilance of going to the mattresses. Ultimately, the tension of trying to live in two worlds is resolved as he is whacked while putting his focus on the wrong world.
I remember when this first came out people were livid at how abrut it ended. My uncle at the time mention that it was a fantastic ending because that moment when it all goes black is Tony being killed and it emphasizes how when you go, it doesn’t matter if you’re in the middle of talking, ordering, eating or expecting someone - it all goes black when you die and just as Tony is left with that feeling of missing out on an “ending” we the viewers experience that along with him.
@@mr.giggles6265 he’s talking about what the cut to black is symbolizing in the show. He wasn’t making a statement about his own views on death and the afterlife. You saw his interpretation of a scene in a TV show and immediately jumped to “wow so you assume there’s no life after death? Nihilist!” Such a huge reach and projection dude lmaoo. You’re clearly insecure if you feel the need to insert your views into an irrelevant youtube comment thread.
@John G Bold talk for the internet. Notice you didn't contend my assertion that you also lack faith. Prove me wrong. Or will you admit my claim was correct? This will be interesting. But, you'll probably avoid the question.
This is the most perfect ending to an incredible series. I like how when Tony enters the restaurant, it immediately cuts to seeing him seated at the booth from the point of view standing at the door. This is what Meadow would have seen when she entered. Possibly seeing her father murdered immediately upon walking in.
Watch his eyes, scanning everyone who walks in. The point is that constant insecurity is Tony's real punishment. After all the shit he's pulled, he can never really relax.
@@troyf.9050 Thing is the only Wap in that restauraunt that came in otha than his family was the dude that clipped him, Tony didn’t even see those 2 black guys come-in he got involved with conversation. the more he got involved in conversation the more he let his guard down, and then as the dialogue went quiet again he was able to get his radar goin, and notices this guy whose clearly an italiano wearin’ a Members Only Jacket go to the bathroom. So he may have noted this but even the jukebox playin dont stop believen didn’t allow him to hear movement and he was into his menu, then heard the ring, Saw meadow and whenever he sees meadow his attention is always 100% her. He was a sitting duck. He didn’t have any panick attacks to warn him something was awry with the dealings with NY somethin didnt feel right, nor with Patsy (If you believe he was involved some ppl do but I totally disagree), The hit was done infront of his fam to send a message, He did the same to phil Infront of his wife and grankids. butchie may not have liked the way it was done among other things, and we Know Phillys Wife is very catholic and vengeful-She was the one who pressed phil that something needs to be done about Vito He needs to punished for his sins or skmething along those lines but She was the one who pressed his buttons, to do something about it. She may have wept to butchie in the same way sayin how phil was murdered right infront of her eyes gruesomely And infront of the twins so blatantly scarring them forever and she may have guilt tripped butchie pressed on it, and she may have been privy to who Phil was going to war with New Jersey. She gets the information from other soldiers in the new york family and boom Tony Soprano comes up. And she may have had family in the mob since she was so comfortable with philly being in the mob. and what does she do she gets her own connections to assassins to orchestrate a hit on Tony Soprano but she wants him to be murdered infront of his family the same horrofic experience she was exposed to she wants him to reap what he sows.
A lot of people talking about Tony's dialogue with Bobby about getting whacked. But the first time I saw this scene, I recalled Goodfellas, in that one scene where Henry got busted and said: "For a second I thought I was dead. But, when I heard all the noise, I knew they were cops. Only cops talk that way. If they'd been wiseguys, I wouldn't have heard a thing. I would've been dead."
Anybody think about how it went down after it went black? The family screaming, the gunmen walking out, meadow losing her shit as she just walked in. Other restaurant patrons panicking….. This has happened many many times in real life
Then what was the point of have Carlo flip and the fbi listening in to tony when he set up meeting with butch these events had meaning but not if tony got killed and unlike Phil who had to be hit wherever he could because they didn't want him to disappear tony was out in the open could have been killed in a more private setting
This is haunting! Gives me chills. Members only guy definitely whacked him. He literally walked in with AJ, but put himself in front of AJ to make it appear like he wasn’t following him. And AJ’s girlfriend was for sure an informant. Remember Tony was like “Who’s she gonna tell?” Regarding their whereabouts that same evening. Tony was so busy watching the door, he didn’t see who was coming out of the bathroom at 3 o’clock. And Meadow, who called him back from the brink of death, the one female in his life that he loved the most amongst all his troubled relationships with women, was the last person he saw. There’s also this level of acceptance between him, Carmela, AJ and Meadow about the lifestyle….and then it’s lights out. You won’t even hear the gun shot. This scene was brilliant.
That's great insight! Really improves my understanding of the scene. 4:16 we see Tony, Carmela and AJ popping an onion ring in their mouth. It suggests taking communion. The reference may indicate the 'last supper' of the Sopranos before they get whacked.
Its pretty funny that after all those times of blaming black people.. That he was actually letting his guard down around them is unbelievable 🤦♂️😂if he did get killed, those black guys are taking the blame forsure!New York staying away from this 1
The saddest part is that he was looking up to see meadow walking through the door so that means she saw him die right in front of him. This scene is so heartbreaking
Meddow was a little bitch cunt and the little bitch cunt saw dad pass away and there are now no ill gotten funds to pay for her irrelevant college school endeavor and the rest of dimeo crew is unalive. Still the millions of people who live in New Jersey are alive including Royal Tannennbaum
If you analyze 4:32 closely you can see the exact moment where Paulie causes a power outage at HBO. Shit got too real for Tony and he couldn't risk having his crimes broadcast for the entire world to see anymore. One of the millions of viewers could rat him out at any time.
@@TraumaER the creator of the show has said he's alive. He's also said if you think Tony got whacked then that's what happened. Basically he's said however you interpret the ending is what happened. It's up to all of us to decide for ourselves. Me, I think his alive.
I watched this show in it’s entirety for the first time recently. All while recovering from a harsh surgery. A month later and this ending still makes my emotions flow. I miss this show and I wish I could watch it for the first time all over again. I felt so connected with the cast. They were my outlet while I was bed ridden for over a month
So when he first comes in he’s seeing himself about to be killed. Christopher’s near death experience tells us that. That’s why he looked so disappointed when he walked in, he new he had to relive that moment again and again. Love the writing and everything else about this show.
@@darrenk7163h I see you’re one of those morons. I feel sorry for you if you really think he lived. There are so many freaking clues pointing to his death that you’d have to be a complete dullard to think otherwise, like you do sir.
If it's a head shot you definitely don't hear it. Bullets travel faster than sound. Watch the A10 in Afghanistan videos. You see the Taliban guys disappear in a hail of bullets long before you hear the distinctive brrrrrrrrrrrrrt of the gun.
@@bobdylan7120 An A-10s cannon shoots its rounds at Mach 3. Most 9mm and .45 handgun rounds are subsonic. You would hear it. Whether your brain would process and notice it before being splattered is another question.
This is such a good scene. Even the placement at the table has deeper sense since nobody sat next to Tony so he was open for a clear shot from the side. If Meadow came in sooner, since she only cold've been seated onTony's right he would't have been whacked. That's why that painfully mundane parking attempt was included.
@@sasquatch7234 that’s a great point actually. I wonder if it’s just the scene or the whole thing over and over again. One of the best shows ever created.
If you notice, almost every time Tony comes close to death or danger, Meadow is there to save him. She's almost inadvertently Tony's guardian angel. On the college trip, her getting drunk and having her father take care of her luckily struck a heartstring of the rat trying to kill him. When she took the FBI lamp from the basement, she blocked the FBI's chance of hearing any incriminating conversations through the mic built into it. In Tony's coma dream, her voice is what ultimately stops him from venturing into the afterlife. You BARELY catch outside voices or forces from outside the coma, but her voice rings crystal clear when the moment is most dire. Which is why, I believe Tony did in fact get clipped in the finale. As the guy with the 'Members Only' jacket goes into the bathroom, which is perpendicular with where Tony is sitting in the restaurant, Meadow struggles to parallel park. She would've been sitting next to Tony (assuming he'd let her sit on the outside) so she'd be in between Tony and the Members Only guy, obstructing his clear shot. I also catch that the number of times Meadow has to readjust her parking is Three, which is the number of times she's kept her father from danger. 3 strikes and he was out... The sound of that door opening always sends chillds down my spine. Meadow probably ran into the restaurant just in the knack of time to see her father get shot in the head from the side.
Also, remember in the episode "Chasing it?" He bets on a horse named "Meadow Gold" who nearly wins, but loses by just a little bit. Meadow was a "cunt hair" away from saving Tony's life if she got there earlier.
So every time the bell sounds, our perspective shifts to first person from Tony’s POV, which is why at the first bell you see Tony walk in and it immediately shifts to the table where he’ll be sitting at, because that’s what he’s looking at; that’s his perspective. Going forward, he’s facing the door so every-time the bell rings, we’re shown him look up followed by a quick camera shift where you see the door from his eyes (1st person instead of 3rd). It doesn’t fade to black, it cuts to black right as Meadow walked in because that was the point where the bullet entered his brain. He never did see his daughter. And yes, it was most certainly a reference to The Godfather (“two shots a piece to the head”) where Michael retrieved the Snub-Nose revolver from the toilet to execute Sollozzo.
@@atlantis5001 He looks up right as she walks in, it's safe to assume he saw her for a split second but I don't know who OP is referring to as "the one he loved the most" I assume he means Meadow but some people would say Carm or AJ. idk.
In "The irishman" Robert deniro pretty much outlines this setup for the joe gallo hit. Pick a public place, make sure their family sees it. also it's a good idea to go to the bathroom beforehand, to check if anyone is in there. Plus, you don't want to be uncomfortable.
@@borris3768 Really? Nothing at all alike? A mob boss going to a restaurant with his family gets shot dead in public full view of the family? Really? Are you that dense?
When I first saw this episode, I wanted to believe that Tony lived, but deep down I knew that just couldn't be true. There's no way Tony lives. I agree with what many on these comments have said - he gets smoked by the guy in the Members Only jacket, right as he's watching Meadow come in, and she along with rest of the family sees it. Had to be that way.
There's another hint indicating Tony is going to be killed. Right at the beginning of the scene, there's a close up on his face in which he's looking at the tables. Then, there's a cut on his point of view, and, strangely, we see him already seated at the tables. It's an ellipse, of course, but for a second it gives us the impression that he's looking at his doppelgänger. In classic literature, when the doppelgänger of a character appears, it usually means death is around the corner.
I’ve pondered this scene a million times. Almost every time I see him getting whacked by the ZIP who goes into the washroom. AJ walks in right after him so Tony doesn’t notice him. Guy identifies Tony twice while sitting at bar goes into washroom that is exactly in front of Tony’s table. If meadow had come in earlier and sat next to Tony it would have diverted the plan, hence the parallel parking cut scenes. Tony had Phil whacked in front of his family, who knows how that sat with the other NY bosses. This particular scene had the typical causal setting that the director used when whacking main characters especially with the random cut scenes.
Or... he was looking at Tony's direction because that's where the restrooms were located. You hear what sounded like a door closing as that individual is walking towards there. The restroom is finally empty for the guy to use.
@@liamwright2510 what? The show is full of public whackings. The first members only guy that killed himself shoots a guy in a restaurant. Sil’s buddy is shot I front of him in a crowded restaurant I could go on
@@liamwright2510 Thats the point in killing a mob boss. They make it public so everyone knows who is in charge now that Tony is dead. The guy probably went to the rest room to grab a gun that was stashed. The guy who walked in before AJ was symbolism of Death or the Mafia. And Tony put business before family as can be seen many times. The lyrics of the song also might tie into this.
Isn’t it strange? By the end, Tony had become a far greater blight than ever, best shown by our last view of Satriale’s: cold, bleak, muted and barren, I’d even liken it to a corpse. Yet, that said, I still find myself wanting Tony to live, perhaps I admire that he had come to terms with his true nature and the absurdity of all things in Vegas, or maybe it’s just a testament to the excellence of this show. Either way, what a damn ride.
Meadow takes three attempts to park successfully, the third time is the charm. Tony survived two hit attempts, the third time here was also the charm. This is always be one of my all time favorite television shows and I me in my top 3 of all time.
Even if Tony didn’t die, he now spends the rest of his life looking over his shoulder. No longer will be free, and no longer able to feel safe. This is where This Thing leads, pure blackness.
Even though Tony was a complete scumbag on multiple occasions throughout this entire show, you can't help but feel sorry for the guy; you want him to somehow make it out safe and not get his brains blown out in front of his family. This show, along with Narcos, makes you feel empathetic towards even the baddest guys.
The only bad guy character that I somewhat felt sad for was Bobby Bacala but even he knew this is the life he chose. Tony was someone that definitely got what he deserved.
Just watched this scene for the first time last night. I thought my laptop was dead, I was so confused and scared then I realized what happened. Absolutely amazing finale, great end for the GOAT Tony Soprano.
What’s crazy is that this scene directly reminded me of Bobby and Tony’s conversation when they’re fishing I think in episode 1 of season 6, Bobby talks about hearing about what it would be like to get shot in the head, how it just “goes dark and you don’t hear nothing or feel pain”. Which in my opinion, reflects really well in this ending. And I think it’s why they went with this abrupt ending.
This is the most uncomfortable scene in the whole show. I don't know whether it's because you know it's the end but you can feel in the air that there is something very wrong from the start of the scene. Tony looking at himself made me think of The Shining.
It's funny you should mention the shining. David Chase said that this ending was inspired by the finale to 2001: a space Odyssey, which was also a Stanley Kubrick film
The ending is on the level of inception. This was before inception but because the ending is abrupt, the sopranos have the most unforgettable ending in TV history...
Fans were pretty pissed off by this ending at first, but it certainly has grown on them. And yes, it DEFINITELY got people talking and it still is over a decade later.
@@grungefreak10 The first time you see it, it leaves you wondering what happened, but once you see it many times and understand it, your perspective changes and you begin to appreciate even more the type of series that The Sopranos was. The truth is that for me this ending is much better and more consequential than an ending where Tony became a better person or watch him die right there in the restaurant.
This is the show that launched good TV. We saw nothing like it before on TV. Movies yes but a show on TV no. You still had to not miss it every week! Before on demand streaming. The last show me and the wife watched together. I miss that. I remember she jumped up like wtf at the end. She thought the power went off ! Good memories watching with my wife.
True. I consider it the dawn of the golden era of scripted drama on TV. Shows like Six Feet Under, Boardwalk Empire, Spartacus, Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, etc all came after. Before all the "great shows" were network formula like West Wing, LA Law, NYPD Blue, St Elsewhere...good but not great.
I hope in those moments of sadness, a bit of warmth is able to seep through, as you remember the love you and your wife shared along what made her so special to you. 🫂
100% wrong. M*A*S*H* did it first and way better back in the late 70's and early 80's. with strong storytelling, amazingly well written characters that we all can see ourselves in and very strong and flexible acting all within the confines of a wartime situation. humor, comedy, faith etc all within a 'situation comedy'. i liked the sopranos but way too many people confuse 'tough guy, do or die..fake loyalty to 'family' and senseless violence as being 'hard' and noble.
The only thing that could have possibly improved this ending is if Tony gave a little smile at seeing Meadow before it cut to black. Just so he could go in that happy moment.
it’s to leave the interpretation that he is in hell and seeing himself enter as the cycle continues just as Chrissie was telling him about his coma dream
you know the saying “ life flashed before his eyes” well, i think this is the perfect ending, he dies the same way all of his counterparts did, it’s almost like a karmic burden/ inevitability, and the fact that when you get whacked in the head, it’s lights out and this scene ends to black giving me the impression that Tony indeed got shot in the head due to how every victim at the hands of tony never saw it coming.
@@cads4737 Tony probably had just enough time to register it was Tony; Tony definitely had enough time to see his daughter one last time. Better end than he deserved, IMO, but still brutal for his family.
I do think David Chase vision was that Tony died in the end. Because as he said “I wanted to show in the end crime doesn’t pay” but like any artists he paints a picture and leaves it for the viewer to decide the meaning.
@@spartanracer chase said "but we didnt do that" referring to a death scene he was talking about, and said "fuck you guys" because they were annoying him about the finale
Great ending! Just how I wanted it to end. Now everyone can have their own thoughts knowing that Tony continued to be the Mob boss he was. Absolutely perfect ending......
00:12 - the painting in the background depicts a mansion identical to the one in Tony's "Kevin Finnerty" hallucination, where he was 1 inch away from death. Notice the two varsity athletes on each side of the painting. 01:10 - 3 identical kids 01:40 - 3 lights on the wall. 3 paintings too 01:54 - 3 packets of milk next to the coffee cup 04:07 - 3rd attempt to park the car is successful Uncle Junior - "They come in threes" Chrissy - "He had a message for you and Paulie. 3 o'clock." It can't just be a coincidence.
@@dannybodros5180 Might be pushing it with this one but, 3 red lights at the beginning in the window. Also a really good one, it says, "Mori" which is death in latin in the reflection.
This is my theory as well. It was all in his imagination. People say "he was killed" and often recall how everytime he listens the bell, the camera changes to his POV. In the last instance the POV is black, which is why people assume he dies. But if you pay close attention, the camera shift after every bell ring doesn't start once he is seated, but before, when he enters the place for the first time and the bell rings. This is the actual first instance in which the camera shifts to his POV. But something odd has happened: he is already seated! How can he see himself from the door already seated? Because he has started to imagine what would happen to him if he enters, and this daydream ends with his death. Which makes sense because in the end Tony Soprano is actually free, and nobody that we know of is coming for him. But all the bad actions he has commited have finally convinced him that he actually deserves to die or at least be in danger. That is Tony Soprano's real curse. To never feel safe because he knows he doesn't deserve it. I know the original writer of The Sopranos because confirmed the "he died" theory. But listening to him and how he hated to be continually asked about the ending, I think he just confirmed the wrong theory to misled us.
Yeah he was already dead when he wakes in if you notice the look on his face is one of dispare and if you look he’s wearing a different shirt when he walks in
He didn’t see himself sitting at the table. We see the patrons, then Tony’s face, then the patrons again. Except Tony is in the empty table the second time. He wasn’t looking at himself..
@@xxnativexx-ttv- same shirt. You can see the shirt has a black collar too, near his leather jacket collar. You can't see the rest of the shirt colors when he walks in, because they're hidden under the leather. Same shirt.
How can you not be romantic about the end of The Sopranos? Everything is perfection, imo. Numerous callbacks and references to the show's history (focus on the good times, right everybody?). Meadow not having the makings of a varsity parallel parker. Even choosing Don't Stop Believin' as the song to play in the background is perfection. It evokes all the right emotions. And then, as if to read the audience's mind, the song blares "DON'T STOP" as the screen cuts black. Amazing to me that anyone was ever upset by it.
The awkwardness and mundanity of the bad parking attempts juxtaposed with the emotional music really highlight how even stupid meaningless things can make such a difference. Much like how Archduke Franz Ferdinand’s car stalled in front of the building his killer happened to emerge from, Meadow’s minutes-long delay left Tony’s right side exposed to the bathroom his killer would emerge from.
Fans hated this finale when it first aired, but in the years since, they really have warmed up to it. It has certainly kept people talking even years later, and that was the genius of it. That's certainly more memorable than having the nameless man storm out of the bathroom with a TEC-9 and put four slugs in Tony's back.
This isn’t a hot take but a bad ending was Game of thrones. This was a clever ending from the start that made more sense the more you rewatched the series.
I think at the time there wasn’t nothing like the sopranos so people weren’t expecting it like back then everything hard to ether have a satisfying ending or a massive shoot out . Know there’s show like breaking bad, better call Saul, peaky blinders, ozark, sons of anarchy and game of thrones people aren’t so single minded about endings
A lot of people missed the fact that had Meadow parked the car on her first attempt and been sat next to Tony - where the only spare seat was, the hit would probably have been called off as she would have blocked a clear shot. Her delay (and terrible parking) clearly allowed the hit to go ahead as the gunman had a clear shot at Tony when exiting the bathroom. I don’t believe for a second they would have tried to shoot at Tony with Meadow sat next to him and ‘family’s don’t get touched, you know that’.
The guy who went to the bathroom, shot TONY while tony was looking at his daughter for the last time as she walks in...probably with shock on her face cuz of the dude pointing the gun, They really left this on a cliff hanger.
I believe this is also Chase’s homage to The Godfather as the man in the members only jacket goes to the bathroom in very much the same way Michael Corleone went to the bathroom at Louie’s.
It was actually Sil in his hospital gown comming out of the bathroom saying his legendary line ......... “just when I thought I was out... they pull me back in”. Fin.
Сегодня досмотрел последнею серию данного сериала. Каждый вечер я приходил с работы и смотрел по 2-3 серии из сезона, складывалось такое ощущение, что я сам стал членом семьи сопрано, как бы и парадоксально это не звучало. И тут ты понимаешь в концовке, что будто твоего члена семьи убили, потому что ты так к ним привык за 6 сезонов, что это не может не вызывать шока. Я не представляю, что было на душе у тех людей, кто смотрел сопрано на протяжении 7 лет. В конце концов сопрано заплатил высокую цену за такую форму существования.
To be Honest, we all can agree that Patsy ordered the hit. He always wanted revenge for his brother and he finally reached a moment where Tony was vulnerable and no longer had anyone to back him up.
I kind of like the theory that Eugene’s wife ordered it, with the guy in the Members Only jacket. She had all that inheritance money. Could have collaborated with Patsy, I suppose.
Patsy was under Chris, and was a soilder, he had no weight to order the hit on a boss. For me the ending is what we saw in the episode, a slow decay of the Soprano mob, Pauli is tanning with NO ONE left. The main crew is gone, the Sopranos are very weakened, and most likely with Carlo flipping everyone goes down. In my world Carlo flips, Tony, Pauli, and most of the top guys go to jail. The Soprano mob dies there... The whole last season was the tribe going down bit by bit.
just imagining his funeral is crazy... virtually nobody would be there. all the guys he attended funerals and events with (christopher, sil, bobby, uncle junior, johnny, etc) are all dead. the only people left are paulie, patsy, carmela, AJ, meadow, and janice. dr melfi might attend but given how disgusted she was with him by the end, i doubt she would. this is why i never understood how people say the sopranos glorifies the mafia; it actually does the contrary. it shows just how destructive, evil, and miserable the mafia is. this scene shows just how paranoid tony is because he KNOWS he has dozens of skeletons in his closet. he's just waiting for one to come for him. he allowed all the evil inside of him to fester and grow and he's left with absolutely no good qualities by the end. he's killed his own family members and friends, destroyed his marriage with carm, made his own damn therapist repulsed by him... he's nothing but a shell of a man just waiting to die (either here in this diner, or in prison) with nobody by his side. tony was always doomed just by being part of that life. so no, i would say the sopranos doesn't romanticize the mafia at all. anyway, 4 dollars a pound.
First time started this series few months back and It ended today and I have no words to describe my emotions. All i know is that I have seen greatest tv show of all the time. All i want is to erase my memory and watch the sopranos for the first time (again) . Tony became real sociopath in 12B but still i am happy i couldn't actually seen him being dead ...
Great TV series, and an ending that left many speculating for years as to what really happened. For me, it's hard to imagine any amount of power or money being worth the cost of having to spend your life with your head on a swivel 24/7. Never knowing who you can trust, and never knowing when you're going to end up in the trunk of a car, buried in the Meadowlands, splattered all over some restaurant seat, or spending years in jail. These guys were doing all that, and were doing it for not that much bling really. It's not like many of them were really wealthy. Vast majority seemed to have rather middle-class homes and lifestyles. In spite for all the risk and trouble they went through to steal, cheat, assault, and kill, just not to be “average” guys, at the end of the day they weren't any better off than the “average” guy.
and even if they did it for all the bling in the world, in the end none of it ever mattered. That is why Scripture asks us to examine ourselves, "For what benefit is it to gain the whole world and finally loose our soul" Thank you for this deep comment.
Sometimes it’s not about you I didn’t have the money to pay for my dogs surgery ain do nun to crazy but that dog was more important to Me then alot of my family. Couldn’t even imagine if it was my daughter or sum I would’ve went insane
@@jeffrey1261 : True. I have heard that scripture many times. My mother took me to church every Sunday growing up. For many of those who are people of religious belief, their wealth in mortal life is of very little importance, when compared to the bigger picture of the wealth of one’s eternal soul.
I could never take being a mafia member, having that constant anxiety of having to look over your shoulder for the rest of your days on this earth and having to cope with all the bad stuff you’ve done over the years.
@@SexyFace Lmao, yes, keep sulking, that’s all you can do when the facts hit you across the face. This is actually quite entertaining, like seeing a monkey dancing.
@@SexyFace Imagine being so salty about losing an argument with me in another comment section, about a different topic at hand, that you’re at the point of straight up going to another comment section and try to provoke me. Lmao, how sad is your life kid? Am I really living in your head rent-free? Lmao.
This episode was incredible. Tony finally kills Phil Leotardo but at the Cost of nearly his whole crew. The last half he is trying to make amends or make things seem like theyre back to normal. He goes to see paulie, then janice, then uncle junior, then his family and his death. I think the episode was really about things never being the same. They could never go back to how things were. Tony made his bed and now he has to lay in it
For me the ending is what we saw in the episode, a slow decay of the Soprano mob, Pauli is tanning with NO ONE left. The main crew is gone, the Sopranos are very weakened, and most likely with Carlo flipping everyone goes down. In my world Carlo flips, Tony, Pauli, and most of the top guys go to jail. The Soprano mob dies there... The whole last season was the tribe going down bit by bit.
I remember watching this finale when it first aired. I was so confused at first, and then as the credits rolled it hit me. Tony had been whacked right in front of his family. Then I started connecting the dots. A brilliant show, all the way to the end. I loved how it ended on such a note, leaving the interpretation open to the audience. Rest in peace, Big Guy.
So thankful for all of u in the comment section that have amazing theories when it comes to the sopranos.U all make me love this show even more.. Thank you🤘🏼
Best ending to anything ever, a class job, loyal to the lore, the style and to everything the Soprano's stood for as a work of art. Went over the head of so many people, which oddly only adds to its beauty. Before there was "Bravo Vince" we used to say "Bravo David".
AJ finally learned... "focus on the good times", implying there's some hope for his depression. Last thing Tony sees is his angel, Meadow. Even the black guys they've spent the show blaming for everything make an appearance. Bathroom, a la The Godfather. Members only. 3 o clock. Tony's dead. Never sees it coming. Perfect.
AJ had him killed. I watched a episode(s) keeps foreshadowing what was going to happen to Tony. AJ references Godfather which makes the scene more disturbing.
Tactically Tony almost got it correct. Able to see front entrance but not having his back to all ; Meadow "distracting" him was convenient but would have still happened.
Tony is in purgatory seeing his death over and over “and it’s painful like Christopher said” and once he’s done he’s headed to Hell(the big White House behind him).
One thing I never understood was the mob war was still going on. Why would Tony go to his favorite restaurant (stick to his normal routine) with his family without protection during that time.
As far as Tony was concerned, the war was over. He struck a deal with Butch to go back to business once Phil got taken out. Whether Butch went back on his word or maybe a loyal member to Phil went rouge, who knows?
Maybe Tony accepted his rule was over since Carlo was snitching him out. If Tony didnt get killed here, he wouldve been arrested some time later and gotten life in prison.
They agreed to hit Phil but not in front of his family like that with his head being crushed by a tire. I think that might have been what caused Butchie to push the button on T and install Paulie as de facto caption of the glorified crew (what was left of it)
My theory: Butch did turn back on his promise of backing off from The Soprano/DiMeo family on the order of Little Carmine and Paulie knew about it, leaving Paulie the head of who was left in Jersey and merging his crew with the Lupertazzi family. Three times Butch was the one who brought up whacking Tony and specific members but Paulie always being left out and in one episode is even said to "not be a target". Through the series basically every meeting Paulie attended with Tony, Paulie never shook the second parties hand, except once. He shook Butch's hand after Tony walks off during the warehouse meeting when they talk about clipping Phil and then Paulie walks off alone and to me that symbolized something. At this point in the series Paulie was the only one left besides Parisi and let's face it, nobody in Jersey really cared much for Parisi. Silvio was fighting to stay alive in his coma and never recovered from it, he most likely died from the injuries as they did say he might not make it. Bobby got clipped by New York and we all know the stories of Pussy and Jimmy. There was literally nobody left but Paulie and he knew that it was time for the DiMeo/Soprano family to be defunct. Also, I feel Tony knew his time was up after Johnny Sack died, Johnny Sack was the mediator between the two families which stopped a lot of problems and helped to try and keep the money evenly spread. We will never really know, but things like that have happened in real life with certain families so it isn't a far fetched theory.
I think you're pretty much spot on. The original plan was "decapitate, do business with whatever's left" and while Butchie no longer trusted Phil, that overall plan was still in play. They just placated Tony long enough for him to let his guard down.
That’s because Paulie wasn’t underboss in 2007, Bobby was, which is why he’s described as “number 3”. Paulie became underboss again after Bobby’s death, however. Paulie hated New York and Phil, and since Butch kissed Phil’s ass 24/7, he probably disliked him as well. The theory that the DiMeo family is eventually incorporated into the Lupertazzi family isn’t that far fetched, but for it to happen the war would have to continue. Paulie is very hot headed and isn’t going to lay down for a snake like Butchie. Also, side note, while Paulie would’ve probably become boss because of his elevated position, he was not the last one left, there was also Alley Boy, who probably took over the Barese crew again, and Tony Black, who probably became captain of Bobby’s crew
That does make a lot of sense for Butch, seeing as how much he gained from Phil's campaign against Tony. He might have decided to give Tony a pass, then changed his mind when he heard about Carlo. Tony having such a selfish personality, it isn't hard to imagine him ratting everyone out to the Feds if he was facing years in prison.
We saw characters die throughout the series. David Chase puts the audience in Tony's shoes and we see what it is to die suddenly. The audience really was the last one to get "whacked".
Every time the door opens and the bell rings, it shows Tony’s POV. He looks up and it shows what he sees. The one shot from Tony’s left is the only time it shows that view and it’s to show the bathroom is clearly lined up with tony with nothing in the way. When meadow opens the door, you see Tony’s POV again when the screen goes dark. My take is that Members Only guy comes in and scopes it out. Sees the opening and goes in the bathroom and then comes out and blows Tony away. He didn’t see it coming, just darkness, like they mentioned earlier in the series.
@@TraumaER 3 o’clock is your immediate right from wherever you’re facing. Shady dude goes in bathroom to Tony’s 3 o’clock, where the gat is probably stashed, Godfather style
Chris said the "message" was for BOTH Paulie and Tony. So I'm not buying the directional explanation. The 3-o-clock reference is classic David Chase...mysteriously, opaque, unknowable....like the fate of the Russian in Pine Barrens.
