I love how this show goes from like, two mob bosses having a serious, no nonsense discussion. Two guys with powerful auras, and the instant cops show up they go from that to two stumbling buffoons covered in snow and falling down hills in the woods. The message the showrunners want to convey about the realism of the mafia is done really well
Yeah, it's supposed to be a reference to the infamous Apalachin meeting in 1957, when Mafioso attendees escaped in a very haphazard and embarrassing manner, trudging through the snow and fields, ruining their expensive suits.
Tony: “let’s talk about the 500lb elephant in the room.” Jonny Sack: “ That’s 405lb elephant Tone, we had to surgically remove the 95lb mole from Ginny’s ass, it’s was a tough procedure.”
a lots going on in that split second look. tonys wondering if johnny set him up, if johnny even knows, if its for him, if its for johnny, if its for both, and for what. that reaction is the proper one, run.
Tony was already nervous about this meeting. 'I have the IQ of 136, its been tested'. He declined to meet Sack in the city and only agreed to the early morning meeting at his house as Sack said he wouldn't give him 'the ammazza' with his wife around. Tony probably didn't even get to see if they were FBI. He legged it when he saw them carrying guns, and thought Sack had set him up.
@@recruitmentch Tony threw his gun away, if he thought he was going to get clipped I doubt he’d toss His piece. Not to mention he spotted that cop car patrolling.
The next scene where Tony is talking to his lawyer and finds out that Johnny would be arrested anyway makes him realize that he didn’t have to kill his cousin. It’s unbelievable how twisted the plot of that show is.
It is amazing he analyzed the situation and ran toward the woods. He did not go for the car. He knew the front is filled with police. That split second thinking is priceless.
He walked through the creek cause there were cops on the main roads. Dogs can smell the different ingredients in soup, walking through a creek isn’t gonna get the scent off
I laughed my ass off watching this scene for the first time. After God knows how much build-up, Tony and Sack finally dish out the quarrel, and just like that, Tony glances behind him and just legs it. Almost slapstick...
haha, yeah, you can almost hear the Flintstones bongo drums, his feet running for a second but not moving and then the sound effect of a whip crack, and off he goes!
@@EndOfSmallSanctuary97 How about when Tony slipped in the police station while having his fingers printed, season 2 I think? That asshole Chief said something along the lines of "Oh Tony Soprano, can't stand the heat?". Tony says "I've got food poisoning ya prick".
I love how in the end, Johns friendship with Tony comes back, he forgets being the boss of new york,and takes a deep breath and snaps back to being a friend
At the end of the day John and Tony are both ultimately reasonable men. Their tempers can get them both into trouble but they never fully commit to bad decisions based on emotion when the stakes are at their highest. Ultimately that was the difference between Johhny Sack and Phil. Phil let emotion drag him all the way into a war that led to his downfall. But Johhny always listened to reason in the end and put money first. That's why Tony and Johhny ended up being friends usually despite their strained relationships. They ultimately both had the same mindset and interests in the ways that mattered.
There isn't really friendship in this business. John was this close of whacking Tony and Tony knew that but it was business that brought them back together. John is a pragmatist and he knows in most cases he gets along great with Tony so its better to have him around and deal with him then someone else who may not be able to deliver as promise and be even a bigger pain in the ass.
@@simle6010 I do agree that John is way more emotionally level-headed than Phil, by a mile, but also don't forget that John wanted Ralphie killed for the Ginny joke and wanted to kill the boss of the 5 families with Tony, although killing Carmine wasn't fueled by emotion, but Ralphie was.
@@simle6010 totally agree...if johnny hadnt of gone to jail that war wouldve never happened...johnny was reasonable and a gentleman and respected tony and vice versa...thats what you call good business...phil fucked everything up
For those that say this is not realistic, you'll be surprised what the human body can achieve when the adrenaline kicks in. Tony did not want to get arrested, and his mind made sure it wouldn't happen.
+Human runner For fucks sake what's everyone obsession with adrenaline all of a sudden? Thank you for the science lesson, but we're all aware of what adrenaline is. I think the "what the fuckery" going on in this scene is the FBI's incompetence. Why the fuck would they send two guys in through the woods about 2 minutes before the raid even starts?
+LSD The cops in the back were getting in position ahead of the cops that were going to kick in the front door. They did not expect to see anyone standing on the back porch. Tony saw them and bolted, escaping before the rest of the cops rolled in.
+Gregg Silk No you are so stupid. That's not what hapened at all. They had a shot gun, and shot guns are used for fishing. They FBI knew who they were and decited to chase them so Tony and the other guy ran. You are really stupid
I always loved the relationship between Tony and Johnny Sack. You can sense the mutual respect between the two in every scene they’re in together. An underrated bromance
@@zeemcavoy that wouldn't help John at all and could've implicated Tony. I don't understand how people bring this nothing burger up calling him a bad person for not saying anything, what was he supposed to say?
@@Jonas-xl4wg Yeah that glance at John was Tony wondering if John was in on what he was seeing behind him. Remember, John invited Tony over to the house and Tony almost didn't go in fear of being whacked by Phil. So Tony thought he just got played, but not by phil and NY, but by a rat.
@@user-ve6kv8ue6qTony’s a bad person for a million other reasons than not warning John lmfao. Honestly I’d bet John would understand because he would have done the same thing if they happened to be standing opposite of how they were. I don’t think either of them would consider it to be personal
This is such a great scene. It's got that tough Mafia stuff, with them facing off. Then it gets kind of heartwarming, seeing their friendship and bonding over the difficulties of leadership. Then sad with Tony's willingness to just leave his friend without a bit of warning. Then comical with the gardener being arrested and the little dog giving Tony a fright. Then thought provoking when you see a powerful mob boss kind of scrambling around in an undignified way in bushes and across rivers like a teenager running from cops or a common burglar. Such an amazing show.
There was nothing to warn him about-- they would have gotten Sack one way or the other. Tony had a lot to lose by being in his company at that moment. Then again, he left his car in the driveway...
@@SuperRobertoClemente I take that back he had a gun on him which he ditched and was later used to tie him to a murder. So I guess he did have a lot to lose.
It always makes me laugh when John slips on the ice, and they pick him up and it looks like he got a pie to the face. 😂 It’s Something so small but it’s why this show is the best
IIRC, the Feds somehow completely miss Tony's trail through the snow so the gun doesn't get found until the snow melted in spring and some kids find it. Standard TV writing strategy - by leaving the gun there and moving on, David Chase could choose to either never mention it again or turn it into a plot point in a later episode if he had a good idea for a script. There are many examples of him choosing both options at different times. Janice being sent off to Seattle after killing Richie was another one of those "keep it on the back burner" decisions by Chase, and he eventually randomly wrote her back into the show.
Been thinking about why he didn’t warn John verbally about the feds. Being that if he did, John would have ran the same way Tony had ran and might have comprised them both.. he didn’t do wrong. Man makes his own way to freedom and the drowning man will always try to hold on to someone else
@@saveir6601 you think Soprano had time to think about that in the 5 seconds between when he saw the feds until he started running? He could have said something. And who is to say they would have run the same way. Johnny Sac did run and he ran in a DIFFERENT direction while Tony ran through the woods.
@@JohnnyDeur between New York and Jersey I strongly do believe he didn’t say anything to John on purpose.. you’d be surprised how selfish Tony Soprano is and it’s proved time again in the show that’s how he is. You can disagree with me sure but don’t type anything else
Something about the school kids cheering and singing at the end is just so eerie, almost juxtaposed. Here Tony is engaging in adult, criminal activity and he casually rests next to a school full of young, innocent children who are singing and having fun, something about it is profound. David Chase is an incredible director.
@@christiansoldier77 I dont know. I’m guessing you haven’t seen a garden disappear under a foot of snow? More importantly...it was a joke. You know? We know he’s the gardener that’s doing snow removal but to an FBI agent, that’s not immediately believable when everything is under a foot of snow. Like I said, joke. But you’re only here dissecting it because you’re trolling me from the other thread where I made you look like an idiot. I see you came here looking for more lol
@@kawi7676 I am not trolling you . You just aren't making any sense. Plus you only made yourself look like a fool that's why you didn't make any more comments LOL
3:11 My favorite part is where they busted the poor little gardener guy who was actually working for free at Johnny's place for protection. Come to think of it, he was actually my favorite character on the show. I wish they'd done more with him...
I mean what could he do? He had a gun on him with hollow points, he had to get out of there. If they ran together it would have been over for both of them.
@@wagwan6248 yea I think it’s more accurate That Cardinals are high ranking officials in the church, they Are supposed to be pious and devout. He asked him what are you a freaking cardinal like, who are you to pass judgement ya prick. Don’t think it was about cardinals "banging anything"
@@xorealslowmd Close, but it's actually related to a real Catholic church ruling. If you want to marry your cousin (something known as "affinity") then you have to get "dispensation" from a church official like a bishop or the pope.
"I paid enough John, I paid a lot" Very powerful line from Tony, shows how hard it was for him to kill Tony B even for all his screw ups and that TBs death really should've ended the in fighting. For Phil though it became more than just getting revenge, Phil believed that Tony and the other Soprano members were a stain on the Mob's reputation and needed to be wiped out. Maybe if Tony had just gifted Phil a new shinebox, things would've been different
Man the Sopranos is so good with the small little "attention to detail" things. That split second moment when Tony notices the laws, and then looks directly at Johnny and stares, as if to say "d-did...did you set me up?" just before he splits. I mean the look in his eyes is undeniable.
I remember NJ in the winter when I was a kid. It was cooooold. The humidity gave it a bone penetrating iciness, even in the air you breathed. And those streams and creeks running all year long....I always found the gurgling of the waters beautiful. It's been a long time.
He did him the one second favour of giving John Sack the double look. Look at FBI then back at at John Sack, then run. I bet if to see if Johnny Sack set him up or not.
for all he knew, sack was settin him up i thought the feds were hitmen, first time watchin this episode he gives johnny the second look, as in 'wtf is this' and he soon realised it was the feds thats my interpetation i guess
He knew he did his cousin beforehand. If you remember, he offered to settle it that way and John refused so he did it anyway, to get it over, and then told Phil where he was so he could think he could do it himself.
I love this show so much, The serious moments always have some sort of comedic action or saying that just makes you really enjoy watching it. Johnny wiping out is hilarious
When Tony said "let's talk about the 500lb elephant in the room..." I kinda expected Johnny Sack to say "Don't ever fucking talk about Ginny like that!"
This was always one of my favorite scenes in the shows history. Seeing the look on Tony's face as he takes off running, cutting through yards, crossing a river. John covered in snow. Its too good.
@@wheelingguy8335 You first. This is the one great act you can perform in service of humanity, leave the gene pool untainted from the hellish DNA that spawned a... thing like you.
yea, I watched it again to see that we never see the actor fall in the snow - it's a stunt guy. That actor would be a little getting on in years to do that fall.
they made James work hard for this scene and the payoff is great. Sliding down that embankment, falling in snow, walking in an ice cold stream during winter! dangerous and uncomfortable for an actor to be doing but it totally sells Tonys panic and how desperate he is to escape. this is the opposite of phoning it in.
If I could I would erase my memories of watching this for the first time to watch it over and over. I was howling at my screen, one of the best scenes in the series.
RIP James, you are still very much missed. Such a powerful actor gone before his time. Can't begin to imagine what else was ahead for him in his acting career.
He was supposed to be in the HBO show "The Night Of" ..John Tutturro is playing the character that Gandolfini was supposed to play....Anyway HBO gave Gandolfini a producer credit in the show which is pretty cool....if you haven't seen it check it out...episode 2 was just on last night.
I’m sure he would have continued to do more great work, but in a way he was done. He almost single-handedly revolutionized television. Very likely nothing else he would have done would have lived up to what he accomplished with “The Sopranos”. That’s not an indictment or a criticism, it’s superlative praise.
The "lets talk about the 500 pound elephant in the room" was definitely a clever joke from the writers, considering johnny said he wouldn't mess with Tony with Ginny in the house on the call they had before the meeting.
Everyone talks about how Tony didn’t warn his friend. The FBI came to Johny’s house with a warrant for him, and they were gonna nab him anyway, whether he ran from them or not.
One of my favourite things about Tony is how he upgraded from a Suburban to a Cadillac Escalade which is just a Suburban with a thin veneer of sophistication
Even though he had the Cadillac, he still had the Suburban. After he crashed the Caddy one episode, he started driving the Suburban till the Caddy got fixed.
2:25 Tony knew in an instant that it was gonna be like outrunning a bear. You only have to get ahead of your buddy to not get eaten. Hence no warning from him to Sack.
When I first watched this, I thought Tony running off was a typical selfish Tony moment. Tony and John were good friends, personally and in business, so why not warn him? After re-watching this episode a few times, however, it quickly became clear why he did. Tony had just whacked Tony B and John and Phil were furious because Tony had taken the hit away from Phil. Prior to this scene, when speaking to John for the first time after the killing, the two are arranging a meeting and Tony has to be reassured by John that New York wouldn't kill him at this meeting. In this scene, I think Tony's first thoughts at seeing the feds was obviously fear but also that this is a set up by New York for the murder of Tony B. The level of depth and detail the writers put into creating this series, and the fact that to this day we analyse it in such detail, simply underscores why it is one of the greatest drama series ever made.
I was trapped like a fly in spider web. Living in a townhome development, I was raided by them in 06. Big Oxy ring. I was far down the ladder but still named in the indictments. Thank God it was an election year, my ex mother inlaw knew some people. I got 5 years probation on a conspiracy
I always loved the ending where Tony is crawling out of the woods into his backyard, and how he looks just like the bear from this season. The symbolism was great. Tony is the bear returning to his home.
Yep. The fact that David Chase liked to send subtle messages directly to fans also makes me think he was trying to make a connection between the idea of a bear's hibernation and the show's hibernation, since there was two years between this Season 5 finale and the Season 6 premiere.
In real life it's only like a 3 minute drive from Tony's house to Johnny's and only like a 30 minute walk. Tony likely walked down Mountain Road and cut down side streets.
@@user-kl8dq3pb7fhello ! I have seen all 60 episodes of the wire and all 86 episodes of the sopranos and I am absolutely a obsessed super fan of both . I loved seeing j.d Williams on the wire , the sopranos , and oz . HBO was my favorite as a child and everything on it is amazing
There's so much hidden humor in this show. lol. tony taking off randomly running. Tony B gettting his foot run over after the hit, gloria throwing the steak at tony's head, paulie's reaction to vito being gay. i laughed my ass off continually watching this amazing show
