Firearm Private Sales & Transfers. There is No Gun Registration: Can I sell my Gun? 

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How do you make a firearm bill of sale? Or do you actually get them from office depot

@@Godflo you can print one online

Where can I print one out

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The forms do not go to anyone for a number of years. 2, 3, 30 years. Then the vast majority are not reviewed. And even the ones reviewed, the firearms listed may not even belong to the original buyer. And there is no registry.

No disrespect to you or your experience sir but I don't rightfully believe this at all.

@@PrimalDefenseCowhen you purchase a firearm through a ffl the atf will be able to trace your name

@@thewrenchmaster122 a trace. Yes. But the trace ends at the last person who bought the firearm from the FFL dealer unless everyone after maintained a record. There are millions of gadgets out there that no one will ever know where they are or where they went.

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The costitution gives you rights to bare arms.

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Start from the manufacturer/importer and see where it ends up. Eventually there may be no record

Serial #?

Fingerprints

What I'm saying. No registry. Keep on keeping on brother 💪.

Any time!

If they requested a trace from the ATF, and it shows that it was manufactured, transferred to a distributor, transferred to a dealer, or transferred to a buyer from a dealer after the ban, then they will know that you acquired it from somewhere sometime after the ban was put in place. If that makes sense.

You can purchase it and own it in Texas. I’m just not familiar with California law. Hopefully someone can read this and give us a hand. I will try something.

You shouldn't be. But you can always get hassled and accused that you knew. The burden of proof lies on the state though. Innocent until proven guilty.

@@PrimalDefenseCo And you could have the cost of defending yourself

@@lancecochrane9302 that is always a possibility. Even if you did no wrong. As someone who investigates and arrests people for a living, there needs to be probable cause to arrest. For that it must meet the elements of an offense. "Knowingly" selling a firearm to a prohibited person is unlawful. "Unknowingly" is not a culpable mental state.

Your good if both signatures are on the dated bill of sale 👍and obviously if you sold it correctly too

This might not apply to you, as Canada has different gun laws than the US, id check your countries federal and local laws concerning this.

@@TR1PPV1Z10N You're right it may not effect Canadians. I myself like the knowledge. Thank you.

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Titworld1..

My understanding is that is OK. You can't travel to their state to sell it. But they can buy the long arm and take it back.

There should not be. Once sold legally, you have no control over what the new owner does with it. Your obligation or responsibility for the item is over.

Firearms are not registered to a name. There is always liability in everything we do. As long as you do not violate the law, there isn't much to worry about. I suggest a bill of sale.

Receipt if you would like one. FFL dealer is required to at least keep track. Unless he purchased in a private transaction.

To help track/trace the firearm. To keep an eye on manufacturing as well. Owners cannot report it as lost without identifying markings. When reported as lost or stolen, the serial number, make, model, caliber is entered into NCIC database. When an officer nationwide encounters it, the firearm will show stolen or lost. Without it being in NCIC or another similar database, an officer can run the firearm and it will not come back to anything. No name, no caliber, no make. Nada.

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Yes. You can. Here is one of your vids on age. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9bcmGrb27wg.html

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Absolutely!

I don't know Georgia state laws, but in Texas that is legal. Federally that is legal. It may be legal in GA. That is why i commonly say, "even if it's legal, you can always be given a hard time". I will look into it a bit more for you.

Following because I'm trying to sell my brother's shot gun, who use to live in Alabama, to a GA buyer....

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It's all the same. Unless you know it was stolen. Best to keep a record of who you bought it from and when. But as long as you had no knowledge of it being stolen, you are good to go.

You can. As long as you are not a prohibited person. Here are two videos on the topic. 👇👇👇 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TrAFujO1HPM.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zUW8MZVknis.html

Yes. In a private sale.

"Lonely Dusty Trail" By Jon Presstone

Espanol? You can buy one from someone else. And yes, taking their information is a good idea.

All of chapter 46 of the penal code is about weapons. The laws just say what is illegal. They do not mention what is legal.

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@@mjpena53 you have a facebook?

That works.

What was the conviction for? And if it's for one of the misdemeanors that prohibit you from carrying in public for the three years, you can still buy, if you pass the background, you can still carry in your home or vehicle. Gun must remain "out of plain sight". Private sales are still good to go.

It Was A Felony, I Wasnt Convicted, I Did 1 Year Probation And 75 Community Service Hours, With 4 Months Of Counciling Classes, I Finished Maybe A Year Ago Probation, I Got Denied For My Firearm And They Told Me I Have To Wait 3 Years, I Understand That, But Is That To Legaly Buy At The Store From A Dealer? Or I Can Also Receive As A Gift? If Im Not Convicted! Do I Have To Wait The 3 Year Period If I Got Gifted A Firearm?

Nope.

At least not in Texas.

You can keep it or sell it.

@@PrimalDefenseCo first of all thank you for replying ... I want to keep it

@@luisvenegas1996 thank you for watching. Really appreciate it.

You can't. Unless you live in a state with a registry.

"Lonely Dusty Trail" By Jon Presstone

Yes it is. Texas penal code 46.06.

@@PrimalDefenseCo So-called UBCs set us down a path--a blueprints mechanism for a backdoor national registry database.

@@nunereclipsereborn I agree.

@@PrimalDefenseCo The anti-gunners and gun-grabbers even admitted themselves that these arbitrary laws are unenforceable without the feds knowing how many law-abiding citizens' guns they keep and bear, the model, the serial number, bullets in the magazines, even if you have homemade legal. firearms.

@@nunereclipsereborn correct. We had a discussion on HR 127 a few weeks ago. Vid is posted on here somewhere. But any attempt at gun registration should be fought tooth and nail.

Not at all

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Then you sell it. And they sell it? If they run it in the NCIC database it will only have a return if it is stolen.

They are dealers selling. They will send the item to a local FFL of your choosing.

If they are intoxicated, you know they intend to break the law with it, or you know that they are a felon or other prohibited person. If you don't know you don't know. You can ask. Ultimately it's your call. But if you know, you can find yourself in trouble.

As an FFL, and a criminal investigator who has found guns in crime scenes, guns are not under peoples names. You are absolutely correct.

Can I privately transfer an AK pistol I own to my 19 year old brother legally?

@@hochi-mayne509 in Texas, yes.

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@@PrimalDefenseCo in Alabama as well?

In TX, legal.

How are you selling it? In person? Private sales of long arms are legal in this state. Including to folks who live outside of the state. As long as you are not purposefully selling it to someone who cannot legally posses a firearm. You just can't ship it without an FFL. The sale of handguns are limited to state residents.

@@PrimalDefenseCo I'm selling it in person. I don't know where my brother bought the gun (He either bought it online, in GA or in AL) but he gave it to me as a gift....Both me and the buyer live in GA.

@@MeekaL Federally you are good as long as you are not violating Georgia state Law. Generally, private transfers are legal in Georgia as long as you are not intentionally selling it to someone you shouldn't sell to.

Pawn shops are good. Some sell new stuff. Some don't know what they are selling. Know what to look for when making a purchase. Don't want to buy something broken.

There is no registration. Unless you live in a state that requires it. In Texas, no registration. And you can carry it. The gun is not under anyone's name. Carry on brother 💪.

@@PrimalDefenseCo yes in texas & thank you for the quick reply

@@3rdcoazttv.797 Welcome. I appreciate the support! If you have any other questions feel free to ask.

I'm not sure what the specific firearm transaction process in California is, but the ATF can go ask for FFL records. Under the 4th amendment, law enforcement can ask a private party for whatever tangible property they want, to include private documents like a bill of sale. A private party is not compelled to provide the property. Except in a few cases where you are suspected of committing a crime and you are required to identify yourself. The 5th amendment also protects you from being required to say anything when being questioned for a crime. If they ever go ask you for your guns, by then they may have already gone to every FFL that has run your info to see if you purchased a gun. Then they can ask for the corresponding form 4473 firearm transaction record from the FFL. Are private sales legal in California?

@@PrimalDefenseCo so how about when law enforcement finds a firearm or they seize one as its part of a crime investigation, are they not able to track the registered owner of the firearm by running the serial number? To me It seems strange to think there isn’t a gun registry. It’s probably another one of the narratives they want us to buy into. Unless there’s been some court cases that has prevented the govt overreach I can’t see them just voluntarily handing over control. There’s more than we know.

@@JD-zl2ec they can trace them back to whoever purchased it from the dealer the manufacturer sent it to. For instance they go from: Maker, Remington for example to the Distributor who buys from Remington to the dealer who buys from distributor to the customer who bought from dealer. But if the customer sold it in a private sale they need to go find that person now. Thay may never find that person. The Government does not have a database where they can plug a serial number in and know who bought it/sold it. There is no name associated with a serial #. Unless it was entered as stolen on behalf of the owner. I mean can they find out, sure. Will they always, no. Is there a database, no. If that makes sense.

@@PrimalDefenseCo it does but leaves the question who has access to this “data” my uncle had a situation and the police had come to his house asking for his firearms. They said they “knew” he owned firearms but they had no warrant and he didn’t respond to any of their demands. It made me begin to start questioning first does local law enforcement have some sort of firearm database and if so who else has access, or was that just a tactic to try to get him to either surrender or give them pc or enuff for a judge to get them a warrant. It just got me thinking. Apparently in 2016 the A , T , F had began storing firearm info that was subsequently later “destroyed” per congress direction but these days there’s no telling as the info once made digital it’s nearly imposible to truly confirm permanent deletion.

What state?

@@PrimalDefenseCo South Carolina but I actually went back and got the bill of sale just in case

@@la.stevee federally you are good. And private sales are allowed in South Carolina.

@@PrimalDefenseCo Ok appreciate it

pretty much.

Nope. Must be filled out at the FFL address. 4473 not needed for private sale.

Yes. They can be sold privately.

You can go that route. I personally would keep some type of record. A bill of sale. Even a hand written reciept.

@@PrimalDefenseCo is this statewide ? Or just Texas

@@maveriik910 federal laws are the same. States may have stricter laws. This is good to go in TX

I've back tracked guns found at crime scenes. I'm a criminal investigator in the state of Texas. There is no system. Not in Texas.

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LE /FBI can ask the manufacturer (Smith &Wesson) about a gun sold with serial number xxxxxxxxx. The manufacturer then says this was sold to FFL xxxxxxxx. They then ask the FFL about that serial number and the FFL then says we sold that gun with serial number xxxxxxxx to John Doe in Pudunck Texas. Then Law Enforcement comes to John Doe and asks about the gun. There is some paper trail and investigation first , then they find the end user. Always a good thing to report your gun stolen if in fact it is stolen so when it is used in a crime you have proof that it was stolen and reported.

There is a law about selling a handgun to an out of state resident. I can't cite it for you though. I need to look that one up.

That's a tricky question. Yes and no. You can purchase a handgun as a gift. But you cannot purchase a handgun for the purpose of transferring it to someone who cannot purchase one. You cannot buy it for someone else. You can legally possess, but as an 18 year old, you cannot purchase from a licensed dealer. I would not think to hard on it. I would go about my business as my dad and I see fit. You and your pops will have to come to reasonable conclusion on how to go about it. People under 21 who work for federal Law Enforcement get personal handguns somehow.

@@PrimalDefenseCo so it can be purchased as a gift could it be gifted to me ? How does that work , thanks for replying

That's where the individual can decide who to sell it to. Or choose not to sell it. Same thing applies with ID. If they don't want to show it, you don't have to sell it. They have to show it to a dealer. They either want the gun or they don't.

@@PrimalDefenseCo that is a systemic failure isn't it? As gun owners defending our right to bear arms but as American citizens wanting to keep our communities safe. The ease of someone buying and selling firearms to those that can't "legally", is a major complacency to ourselves and society. There's gotta be something we can implement to make our communities safe than ignore flaws in our current systems and pray for the honor system.

@@kage2907 it is not legal to sell to someone who cannot legally possess a firearm or someone who is intent on committing a crime with it. Police find it, they can prosecute. The problem is courts, prosecutors, and or law enforcement agencies refuse to follow through sometimes. Changing the way we vote is a start.

@@PrimalDefenseCo thank you for your replies, I'm trying to understand our gun issues so I appreciate your responses. There is validity of the strawman purchases that people point out tho yea? Such a loophole is something that legal gun owners should agree is a systematic flaw.

@@kage2907 well, as long as people lie on the 4473 form, there will always be a loophole. I think the first step would be to enforce the laws we have. There is no punishment in some instances. And probation for aggravated robbery is not punishment enough. We need to stop letting people walk. There are issues surrounding firearms. And the solution starts at home. Followed by no nonsense punishment for serious gun related crimes.

You are good. No paperwork needed. I would make note of it at least. Name, Date, time of transaction. At least you are good to go in Texas. Some states may have laws against that.

@@PrimalDefenseCo okay thank you for the fast reply! Yes I'm from texas

@@randomguy2369 awesome brother. You know where to find me if you need any more help.

The government may find out about some of the guns I own. Sure. Some. We do not have a registry. You would know it if we did.

The federal stuff is the same. Not sure about their state laws. Something we are working on.

If you can legally possess it, you can legally buy it.

And he can legally sell it.

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Titworld1…

Only a long arm. Unless you have the firearm transferred to an FFL dealer in Texas who then transfers to your relative. Under the law, we are not to transfer handguns to residents outside of the state that you are in.

I do not know all the details surrounding the transaction. And I do not know what laws were in effect at that time. The criminal mental state is an element to a crime. Was there mal intent when the transaction was committed? Even if there was a culpable criminal mental state, prosecutors have discretionary powers. Meaning they don't have to prosecute anyone even if the evidence exists.

@PrimalDefenseCo I'm not suggesting that she should have been prosecuted. I'm just confused because in this video you said you can't give guns to anyone who is not allowed to have them... so I was just confused. I am curious though. If someone were to gift a minor a gun or guns, is that legal or regulated in any way? Is there an age limit? Can a minor have a gun with them in public without getting into trouble?

@@sarahshanahan2222 depends on what you consider as a minor. Fed law prohibits the possession of a pistol under 18. Texas law prohibits the possession of a firearm by a person under 17 without adult supervision. State law prohibits the transfer of a firearm to a 17 year old without guardians consent. You can't transfer it to someone you know is prohibited, intoxicated, or planning to commit a crime with it. You cannot purchase from a FFL dealer with the purpose of transferring it to someone else.

What part?

Nope.

Yes. I think the laws are about to change also. You might be good to carry soon. Stay posted. Thank you for the support.

@@PrimalDefenseCo thank you for replying

@@KevinGarcia-tp1wi thank you. Have a great one. And merry Christmas!

I say it how I wanna!

I'm a cop who has actually gone through the process of tracing guns back found at crime scenes. They don't all find their way back to an owner.

Being convicted of certain offenses are lifelong sentences. And in some instances the punishment is not nearly harsh enough. Such is the case with child predators. Felony convictions and domestic violence convictions sentence you to a life of not being able to possess a firearm.