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Ford CEO Makes INSANE Move! Now Dealers Are In Full PANIC Mode 

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2023 has been a rough year for the Ford motor company and Ford Dealers... Sales of the F150 pickup truck are still way below pre pandemic levels. And Ford dealerships continue to price gouge customers with markups over MSRP on popular Ford trucks and SUVs. Can the Ford F150 still beat the Toyota Tundra, Toyota Tacoma and RAM trucks? Back in 2021 CEO Jim Farley said in an interview that Ford needs to go direct to consumer, move to fixed pricing and dealers need to go the way of the Dinosaur. Well, now in 2023 it turns out that was not entirely true.

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@MotorFeed
@MotorFeed 11 месяцев назад
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@Kenneth_R
@Kenneth_R 11 месяцев назад
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@randomuserame
@randomuserame 11 месяцев назад
KBB is owned by the same company that also owns auction companies (Cox), and should never be used to determine a used vehicle's actual value. What you want is to find the book value, which is how much a bank would pay for it (such as for writing-off a repo, or for inancing--get the buy rate, not the sell rate), work out the actual value based on whatever the LTV is, and offer a fair profit margin for the dealer(2-4%). Anything above a fair profit margin, push back with the rep _once,_ then drag the manager out of the office and push back _once,_ then walk if they still say no. Prices should have come down last summer, leave them to starve if they won't move the metal.
@smokeymacpot76
@smokeymacpot76 11 месяцев назад
we see u bash ford and chev non stop especially ford..so how bout some fking enlightenment and do a fking video on the BEST bang for your buck truck and car today..... how bout lowest priced also...
@planobest8120
@planobest8120 10 месяцев назад
This isn’t content it’s a god damn ad campaign poorly disguised as content
@fritztopher
@fritztopher 10 месяцев назад
i’m remember 30 k car was high end that was only like 15 years ago ,
@ToddMurphyhealthy4life
@ToddMurphyhealthy4life 11 месяцев назад
No one's paying $70,000 for a Freakin pick-up, that used to cost $50,000 just 4 years ago. 🤨😡
@neiljohnson6815
@neiljohnson6815 11 месяцев назад
Especially when I wouldn't have paid 50K for it four years ago.
@midnitemonty
@midnitemonty 11 месяцев назад
I wouldn't even pay 40k for a fckn F150 brand new.. oh wait I'd never buy a F150 period as I don't need a pickup.
@williamcunningham1586
@williamcunningham1586 11 месяцев назад
Arrogance of the dealers and manufacturers! It just started to bite them in the Fanny
@markadams5823
@markadams5823 11 месяцев назад
Not just The price all the recalls.
@huemann7637
@huemann7637 11 месяцев назад
The quality of new vehicles is garbage.
@stephenjordan8712
@stephenjordan8712 11 месяцев назад
They need to drop prices by 25-30 percent, not 5-10. 🤨
@mjuberian
@mjuberian 11 месяцев назад
exactly
@I_Love_Quokkas
@I_Love_Quokkas 11 месяцев назад
But think of the shareholders! /s Edit: adding /s because apparently a number of people didn’t read the implied sarcasm.
@johndonovan7018
@johndonovan7018 11 месяцев назад
50-70%
@roaddawg831
@roaddawg831 11 месяцев назад
25-30% at the minimum!
@jjs71072
@jjs71072 11 месяцев назад
They need to flush their CEO and drop the price by 30%
@jcbillman
@jcbillman 10 месяцев назад
I’m in the demographic that typically buys the more expensive trucks - high pay job, own horses, etc. and part of the issue is the trucks with the high prices don’t have real towing capability. They’re heavily in the “garage Queen” category with luxury upgrades. We bought a new 2500 with 15k tow capacity for under $45k. The equivalent 1500 with 7k tow capacity was $65-75k. It’s very much about those add-ons.
@frankie_6394
@frankie_6394 10 месяцев назад
It's not just Ford, it's almost across the board. Prices are unforgivable right now. It's insane!
@computerweenie
@computerweenie 10 месяцев назад
100%
@Vosovogalsyncope
@Vosovogalsyncope 10 месяцев назад
My electric scooter has been a money saving machine.
@mikeoneill81
@mikeoneill81 11 месяцев назад
Stay strong people! It’s much cooler to have money in your pocket than a $60k+ car loan
@renlysotherlover294
@renlysotherlover294 11 месяцев назад
Truth. I made this mistake and my ridiculous car payment is a joke
@Utahtruckguy
@Utahtruckguy 10 месяцев назад
I’ve got a 2021 Ford F350 Platinum… just gotta make more money
@gabroballo
@gabroballo 10 месяцев назад
I use it for work now and I have more money in my pocket
@whitefang8329
@whitefang8329 10 месяцев назад
@@gabroballo American’s logic. Before you had the same car for $30k and now you have this car for $60k and you make more money than before? You just lost $30k on the spot. Good job.
@moxopixel
@moxopixel 10 месяцев назад
​@@renlysotherlover294Takes a lot to be honest today it seems like. Nice to see.
@rustycleaver8231
@rustycleaver8231 11 месяцев назад
Prices are outrageous. I’ll be driving my current vehicle till it crumbles to dust. Even if I have to drop a few grand in repairs at some point in the future, I’m still way ahead financially.
@tvdinner325
@tvdinner325 11 месяцев назад
That was our reaction. I will not reward greed.
@jeffreyschultz5356
@jeffreyschultz5356 11 месяцев назад
Just did my rockers and cab corners on my 02 f150 I bought new for $26 k and has 120 k miles . I drive it till it dies or ido.
@martinnorbeck4657
@martinnorbeck4657 11 месяцев назад
I keep air in my tires, antifreeze in cooling system a set of brake pads oil change battery A/C charged up and working. The cosmetics are awful. But my windshield isnt cracked. The registration is current as is insurance. I bought my little Ford Ranger for 10 thou. in 1996. It still makes it to work and all over. I dont drive it like a rental, run it into the ground and then call it a P.O.S.
@danwolfe7665
@danwolfe7665 11 месяцев назад
Same here! I’m not buying anything new for a long time.
@michaelfrock2473
@michaelfrock2473 11 месяцев назад
Maybe pick up some deals at repo auctions.
@St.CrimsonTweets
@St.CrimsonTweets 9 месяцев назад
Its insane that in 2019, when I needed a truck to start my lawn business, I was looking for decent used trucks between $10k and $17k. Now, the same age/mielage combination is anywhere between $25k and $32k
@user-ie5sq3rl8i
@user-ie5sq3rl8i 11 месяцев назад
Dealerships aren't behind on production of trucks . They learned during covid that it's a better business model to stock less inventory and charge higher prices. Less cost on flooring lines and higher demand for certain models . It's a win win for dealers .
@MVanDii
@MVanDii 11 месяцев назад
I hope the dealers fail. As a contractor, I am so sick and tired of being willfully ignored not only by the dealers but by the manufacturers too.
@christiansoto9755
@christiansoto9755 10 месяцев назад
well stop buying trucks
@MVanDii
@MVanDii 10 месяцев назад
@@christiansoto9755 you must be a dealer.
@porscheguy6972
@porscheguy6972 10 месяцев назад
@@christiansoto9755 narc
@magneric
@magneric 10 месяцев назад
It's even worse when you have to pull teeth to get the dealers to do their part in the warranties to fix your vehicles when parts fail. 2 Weeks later and I'm still waiting on them
@MVanDii
@MVanDii 10 месяцев назад
@@magneric no worries, I'll just go out of business waiting for you to fix the truck you said was worth the 90k I financed. No, I'm not upset your truck didn't last long enough to be paid off, why would I be?
@Kevin-mk6jo
@Kevin-mk6jo 11 месяцев назад
Let them rot. Dealers, this budlight is for you.
@jerryjeromehawkins1712
@jerryjeromehawkins1712 11 месяцев назад
👍🏾 🍻
@anonimous2451
@anonimous2451 11 месяцев назад
Uhhhh, NO BUDLIGHT for me EVER. Or Corona, Stella Artois, Ultra, Michelob, or any other A/B product. Miller GDB or Coors Light in a bottle.........cans suck and ruin the taste of good beer.
@levilively8743
@levilively8743 11 месяцев назад
So you're drinking bud light? gross
@marcushudak
@marcushudak 11 месяцев назад
​@@anonimous2451I can't imagine being such a sheep
@anonimous2451
@anonimous2451 11 месяцев назад
@@levilively8743 roflmfao, obviously you cannot translate english into thoughts.
@SmallLab129
@SmallLab129 10 месяцев назад
Dealers forgot that customers expect to get cars around invoice or lower. Pandemic was a crazy time, but as everything has shown, things want to go back to normal. Consumers remember who tried to screw them when they were vulnerable. Also, consumers aren't going to negotiate for a decent deal anymore, they're coming for every cent they can save.
@chevy4x466
@chevy4x466 9 месяцев назад
Right, the whole concept of dealing was to get the vehicle below msrp. Not pay more, then get nicked on add ons
@FastRedPonyCar
@FastRedPonyCar 10 месяцев назад
Our local dealer has F150 base models with the 5.0L V8 for about $38k. THAT is the working man's brand new F150, not the Tremor or Raptor. Honestly, most working men will just go buy one used for half that price and still end up with a great workhorse. I have been flipping around car dealerships for a year now trying to decide what new car to get and how to get around all these markups and I finally ended up at BMW and have a new m340i being delivered in about a month for 4K under MSRP.
@knightssquire2376
@knightssquire2376 9 месяцев назад
So funny. We ended up going with BMW as well because the pricing made sense in this crazy dealership markup environment. I was shocked BMW was the only "deal" out of 5 dealerships.
@FastRedPonyCar
@FastRedPonyCar 9 месяцев назад
@@knightssquire2376 Since posting that comment, we also have picked up my wife a nearly new (less than 1000 miles) Volvo XC90 at about 7K under invoice. I also had our local Audi dealership offering some well equipped S5 and S4's for a couple grand under MSRP and the Acura dealer offered a TLX Type-S for invoice. Maybe it's just a truck thing?
@johnkinsel5027
@johnkinsel5027 11 месяцев назад
Your mom was spot on. Not only are they too expensive & pimped out to be "work trucks", by the short time they depreciate to a reasonable price they will be falling apart. A work truck needs a long bed, minimal options, and a bullet proof drive train.
@user-st1hy6ql3j
@user-st1hy6ql3j 11 месяцев назад
I used to work for a large oil company and we had fleet trucks, Dodge, Chevy, and Ford. The Dodges had a few problems, nothing major, the Fords...OMG, they were always in the repair shop and falling apart while only being a year or less old. The Chevy trucks would basically run until the wheels fell off, they sold the Chevy truck I was driving at 134k miles and it really had no problems. They must have been getting good deals on Dodges because they started shifting focus to Ram. You're absolutely correct, Fords are POS and I'd never buy one and they're trying to do insane markups, out of curiosity I checked a ford dealer here and it marked up a top of the line Maverick Lariat to 46k...the MSRP is almost 29k, they added as many options as they could cram in and then added a 5500 dealer markup...insane. If Ford wants to survive, they're gonna have to go direct. The crazy thing is you really don't see many fords on the road around here, except for the mustang.
@SergeyPupkoMusic
@SergeyPupkoMusic 11 месяцев назад
It used to be that you only buy them as work trucks. Now it's a daily for a lot of people. It's also a means of transporting their RV, boat or toys to vacations or other outdoor activity. A few creature comforts are not a bad thing. Just stupid that they package them into trim levels and just to get leather seats you'd have to step up to a Lariat/Laramie/whatever the GM variants are, and they come with options you do not need/will not use.
@hoosiered471
@hoosiered471 11 месяцев назад
Exactly!!!!
@user-rp3ev5kz2o
@user-rp3ev5kz2o 11 месяцев назад
Yet my work has ford's that run all day with 300,000 Miles on them, idle all day abs night. I just had my second set of nuts turned on my f150, dang rear tires had to be replaced at 78,000 miles ans then the front tires at 86,000 miles, never rotated 😆 dang this f150 needs lots of repairs.
@william-fla-321
@william-fla-321 11 месяцев назад
@@user-st1hy6ql3jI work for large corporation also for almost 40 years. In that time I have driven GMC, Chevrolet, Dodge, and Ford all 18,000 lbs and up. Every manufacturer had it’s issues. Overall I enjoyed everyone of those trucks and the trucks were driven by me only for there lifetime. I’m in a Ford F550 now with 80k. Beautiful truck and only complaint is the 10 speed transmission . My last truck was a Dodge Cummins and it had problems with wheel studs twisting off. GMC / Chevrolet was fuel injectors.
@creativeconciousness5492
@creativeconciousness5492 11 месяцев назад
This is what pisses me off about the corporations in this country. They always want to blame gas prices or supply issues to raise prices, but when the market factors are restored to previous levels they never want to lower the prices accordingly. It has to take an economic crash for them to do so, hence 2008. Let the auto market crash completely, everyone stop buying cars until the first of next year. I bet we see the prices we want then.
@roaddawg831
@roaddawg831 11 месяцев назад
No worries, the crash is coming.
@rickbaier1042
@rickbaier1042 11 месяцев назад
Agree. Just Google CEO PAY. Total greed no sympathy for the auto industry
@Flyingfrogs2y
@Flyingfrogs2y 11 месяцев назад
You are ABSOLUTELY correct. Look at everything in the US with price gouging. They blame Covid, material etc etc. And yet when things get going again they NEVER want to come down. Gas is the worst! “Why lower fuel cost when they are paying for it” CEO Exxon Mobile
@Tusuperbis
@Tusuperbis 11 месяцев назад
I've been saying that for years! Glad to see someone else say it.
@mIKE24463
@mIKE24463 11 месяцев назад
Amen
@gocivic99
@gocivic99 10 месяцев назад
I was at the Toyota dealership for parts. Majority of vehicles were non Toyota brands and flag ship TRD trucks with 5k-10k markups. They even had a hyundai in the show room.
@ellerybice3787
@ellerybice3787 10 месяцев назад
Thank you for bringing your mother along, she added a lot of entertainment value to your video. Hopefully she becomes a regular guest.
@InternetUser._
@InternetUser._ 11 месяцев назад
Good luck, FORD. 😂 They’d have to drop prices 40% to earn my business.
@elim7228
@elim7228 11 месяцев назад
While I agree with you, why did you single out Ford? How about the rest of them car companies, since they all have crazy high price on their vehicles?
@drillingig2368
@drillingig2368 11 месяцев назад
@@elim7228This is a FORD focused video.
@elim7228
@elim7228 11 месяцев назад
@@drillingig2368 yes, I watched too. The comment though applies to every manufacturer including the Japanese ones. Overpriced and poor quality in general for the US based ones, and overpriced and a bit better quality in the Asian ones.
@drillingig2368
@drillingig2368 11 месяцев назад
@@elim7228 Alright, man. Didn’t mean to sound disingenuous. Sorry about that.
@alina_banina
@alina_banina 11 месяцев назад
If any auto maker wants my business, prices will have to be slashed by 50%. They've made money hand over fist for over a century now. I don't feel bad for them.
@tomkruger3496
@tomkruger3496 11 месяцев назад
$56K for a V6 pickup. Not happening.
@rogelioestanislaojr3261
@rogelioestanislaojr3261 11 месяцев назад
​@@jonvb2439are you driving a cybertruck? Are the even being sold right now? The cyber truck is off the list until its made. At least make a rivian comparison since it's available to consumers.
@dantecoyazo8639
@dantecoyazo8639 11 месяцев назад
@@rogelioestanislaojr3261 i know right, the cyber truck doesn't even exist yet. It's like me saying "a space ship can travel across space, never hit a pot hole, and withstand extreme weather. Its way better than a fossil fueled truck", like the space ship exists as much as the cyber truck does 😭
@shanestephens2756
@shanestephens2756 11 месяцев назад
Bought a 2004 Chevrolet Silverado 3500 dually diesel with Allison. Every option except leather. 36,000.
@nukem8128
@nukem8128 10 месяцев назад
​@@jonvb2439too bad it looks like garbage.
@ericpigg2689
@ericpigg2689 10 месяцев назад
@@jonvb2439 how do they ride? Ah, no one knows. They haven't made one yet. And the bulletproof? There's a RU-vid video showing that massive fail.
@Morecommon
@Morecommon 9 месяцев назад
Worked as a salesman for a month last year and got fired. I just couldn’t believe what was happening, i dont have it in me to do that to people.
@stevedeleon8775
@stevedeleon8775 10 месяцев назад
My brother did what is becoming a New Trend..He bought a 1990 Chevy Trk.for $5,000 & put it in a shop for New Interior..Minor body work Brand New engine & paint job. For $13,000 for a grand total of $19,000 for a New Rebuilt Vehicle..
@markgallagher1376
@markgallagher1376 11 месяцев назад
I can’t believe 60k is now considered a good price for a truck. These MSRPs need to come down by another 30k to be reasonable.
@Godblessuss
@Godblessuss 11 месяцев назад
it'll be the next economic collapse before it happens
@bobdole870
@bobdole870 11 месяцев назад
I think those days are gone sadly. Inflation is quite bad right now and it tends not to go in the other direction.
@rogelioestanislaojr3261
@rogelioestanislaojr3261 11 месяцев назад
​@bobdole870 it's more than just inflation. The R&D involved and technology advancements in vehicles these days are ten fold from 10 years ago. It was back before 2010 when a brand new truck was only 30k. And that's for a base model with roll up windows. So add inflation and cost of production for these trucks with all the extra tech , 60k seems on par.
@eric9095
@eric9095 11 месяцев назад
@@rogelioestanislaojr3261 You would think with all the R&D they would research the average wages of customers. They aren't researching the most basic of things required to sell vehicles.
@ApriliaRacer14
@ApriliaRacer14 11 месяцев назад
@@rogelioestanislaojr3261It’s wages have not kept pace. Complete disconnect (intentional).
@ogles824
@ogles824 11 месяцев назад
“We are coming down 5 to 10 %” won’t even begin to get Ford trucks where the average consumer can afford them. They need to come down at least 40%.
@MotorFeed
@MotorFeed 11 месяцев назад
Totally agree. They went up 20% just in the past 2 years.
@AdamGibbyMC2012
@AdamGibbyMC2012 11 месяцев назад
@@MotorFeed Im still in my 2010 infiniti - we need a bigger car but forget about it with these prices. Im not having a 800/month car payment (and thats being generous).
@nickmccollister2975
@nickmccollister2975 11 месяцев назад
@@MotorFeed My dad got his 2019 XL F150 2wd with the STX package for $32k brand new. The same truck is about $20k more just 4 years later.
@user-tb7rn1il3q
@user-tb7rn1il3q 11 месяцев назад
I doubt the prices fall. They will remain flat. MSRP will go up a little, but there will be more discounts. Used car prices will go back up since fewer cars were built in the last three years.
@danwolfe7665
@danwolfe7665 11 месяцев назад
There was too much easy money available in the economy for too long. Of course prices went up.
@Misteryman321
@Misteryman321 9 месяцев назад
When the ford maverick came out i was instantly hooked, drooling over them even, its the first small truck made by a US manufacture that had a "Reasonable" MSRP. When i went to look at my local ford dealership to look at their stock...$40k minimum for the base model i wanted. I guess the old ford ranger is gonna have to keep going
@HardlinerTheGeek
@HardlinerTheGeek 10 месяцев назад
I'd love to see you do a video on comparison pricing on sedans. Are they selling that well at your local dealerships?
@Commonzenze
@Commonzenze 11 месяцев назад
The MSRP prices are insane. The markups are pouring salt into the wound.
@tonyshetter7545
@tonyshetter7545 11 месяцев назад
Stop buying American Nissan is lowering prices and they make a better pick. Uuup truck
@michaelfontenot7259
@michaelfontenot7259 11 месяцев назад
Went up by 35-45% but coming down 5-10% still insane
@nickricholetti754
@nickricholetti754 10 месяцев назад
it’s like the gas prices. than they take credit for lower gas price lol
@MechShark
@MechShark 10 месяцев назад
That's inflation for you. Shouldn't be a surprise. It happens every decade. That's the price of government Keynesian ret*rdonomics.
@KonaPony
@KonaPony 10 месяцев назад
Vehicle prices aren't the inly problem. Service department shop rates are out of control too! With the vehicles becoming more and more complicated and filled with higher levels if technology, soon most vehicles will be a financial write off, if something major is required.
@tetonman4072
@tetonman4072 10 месяцев назад
What factor does the actual dealership play in this? I know where I live Lithia is always expects to negotiate the price. However Edmark has always priced things at MSRP. This was even during the pandemic when I bought my Rav4. They were not marking them up like everyone else.
@russinglieri5431
@russinglieri5431 11 месяцев назад
Anyone who says $40k is a better price has been brainwashed 😅
@justing6594
@justing6594 11 месяцев назад
For real! People fall for this and think there getting a "deal"
@xThemadpoet
@xThemadpoet 11 месяцев назад
40-50k would be fine for a pavement princess with all the options - but those go for 100k these days
@mjuberian
@mjuberian 11 месяцев назад
she sure is
@Frankrizzo619
@Frankrizzo619 11 месяцев назад
1998 16k for a single cab f150
@fortheloveofnoise9298
@fortheloveofnoise9298 11 месяцев назад
​@@Frankrizzo619you can only get a base model Nissan versa for that now
@chimrichalds1422
@chimrichalds1422 11 месяцев назад
Does anyone remember factory rebates? Getting a truck $8k under msrp used to be the norm.
@C0ttageChees
@C0ttageChees 11 месяцев назад
Didn't know this. Thanks!
@Clearanceman2
@Clearanceman2 11 месяцев назад
I remember 2018 hearing on the radio 4 wheel drive silverados in the high 20,000s. They were 11,000 under sticker. Sometimes more. 2 wheel drive was low 20s and 4 wheel drive high 20s. Wages haven't gone up 2.5X since 2018.
@JJ-cg3rn
@JJ-cg3rn 11 месяцев назад
Yes. Especially 20-25 years ago. Lincolns too. I remember my dad seeing 10k off Lincolns… times have changed.
@pranksterDoug
@pranksterDoug 11 месяцев назад
Yup, I brought my silverado in 2014 for 10k under msrp because of the factory rebates.
@Clearanceman2
@Clearanceman2 11 месяцев назад
@@pranksterDoug Yeah, the only one I saw under 50,000 on the same dealer's website that used to sell them for 28,000 was the four cylinder turbo model. All the others were 50,000 plus. Like 53,000 plus. And this dealer sold them all the time with a V6 in 2018 for 28,000. It's just ridiculous. It sucks that when the industry collapses at some point from this the government will bail them out. they rob people blind and then the government uses our tax dollars to prop them up.
@computerweenie
@computerweenie 10 месяцев назад
I had a reservation for a 2023 Lightning. When I was notified that it was my time to order and it was going to be $80,000+ I told them to take a hike. Unfortunately there may be a day when trucks are all going to be close to 80k, but I'm not paying that in my lifetime.
@itr0863
@itr0863 10 месяцев назад
I love going to Dealerships to pick up parts and seeing how desperate the salesman look because they are literally not doing anything and there is no inventory.
@littlestinker9716
@littlestinker9716 11 месяцев назад
Discounts or not, full-sized truck prices are nuts. Then 15mpg on top of it. Great way for Harry Homeowner to bankrupt his family.
@tvdinner325
@tvdinner325 11 месяцев назад
I think they may do that without our help.
@lexwaldez
@lexwaldez 11 месяцев назад
Filling up with gas each month is another car payment.
@aron6998
@aron6998 11 месяцев назад
15mpg? I have a 2018 F150 with the 5.0 and I get approximately 21mpg and get right at 705 miles between fill ups and it definitely doesn’t bankrupt our family, now take into account that I don’t just run roads for no reason either, I purchased the truck Nov. 2018 and it just hit 40k miles
@pmscalisi
@pmscalisi 11 месяцев назад
@@aron6998how much highway driving do you do?
@Brandon-uy1uv
@Brandon-uy1uv 11 месяцев назад
​@@aron6998yea, but if your vehicle would get 30mpg, you will be saving 50% on fuel. That money can be put towards retirement 💰
@hskrgrad
@hskrgrad 11 месяцев назад
MSRP's better come down more than "5-10%"....That is a drop in the bucket. 30-40% is more realistic for consumers.
@dr._breens_beard
@dr._breens_beard 11 месяцев назад
Given inflation of necessities id say 40% is the mininum drop we should be seeing. A vehicle is a depreciating asset. Housing and healthcare costs are rising so high that even homeowners arent going to be swallowing these markups longer than the rest of this year.
@Kamikaze3557
@Kamikaze3557 11 месяцев назад
I ended up buying a Toyota Rav 4 hybrid in 22, paid cash, and got it in 1 month , sense I didn’t care about trim, color etc. I was sick by the price but 40 mpg and counting on reliability, so far no issues and feel somewhat less worried when taking a trip ,no breakdowns. Did I just make a mistake by mentioning that !
@rileywilson800
@rileywilson800 9 месяцев назад
I know a handful of dealers that sell almost all new cars at UNDER msrp. And only mark up limited edition models (and usually remove the markup for local clients). Also it’s ECO boost. Not Echo Boost
@punkydrewster511
@punkydrewster511 11 месяцев назад
Uh...$40K for a 2-door, SR5 Tacoma is NOT a good price! Forget it!
@makatron
@makatron 11 месяцев назад
Imagine the markups on the new trailhunter, that thing is going to be mid 60s
@barryraven4745
@barryraven4745 11 месяцев назад
Horrible price. But consumers are still buying them. Stupid really. Many of these will be repoed. Nobody will have any retirement left when they need to retire. Meals on Wheels will be delivering food to them in their repoed trucks.
@popwarhomie
@popwarhomie 11 месяцев назад
I'm in the market for a Tacoma now but the pricing and 7.5% interest rate with perfect credit is insane. Even a used 2020 is only a few thousand cheaper than a new one...
@TheAllMightyGodofCod
@TheAllMightyGodofCod 11 месяцев назад
Might not be a good price but it is a far better price. Or, tell me, are the F-150 more reliable than the Tacoma or anything? I am asking this honestly, I don't drive a truck and I am just watching this for entertainment.
@punkydrewster511
@punkydrewster511 11 месяцев назад
@@TheAllMightyGodofCod Tacoma/Tundra are much more reliable. Toyotas are usually 300k+ mileage vehicles.
@ShodakonFury
@ShodakonFury 11 месяцев назад
I think the saddest thing about inflation and markups is that $40-$50k vehicles are the norm when it comes to “affordable”. These dealerships are on an entirely different world and it’s either going to take a crash or having too much inventory for the prices to lower. People just need to stop buying.
@TheCrazyMoparDude68
@TheCrazyMoparDude68 10 месяцев назад
Well the dealerships and manufacturers can’t do anything about inflation. The cost of inflation has affected the manufacturing, delivery, and dealership costs and it has to be made up if they want to make money and stay in business. Your anger is misplaced, it should be on President Biden and no one else.
@DasFlank
@DasFlank 10 месяцев назад
@@TheCrazyMoparDude68 So I should be angry at the president, and not congress, the house of representatives, or heaven forbid the CEO's of these companies? Blaming the president wont fix the problem, nor does it even address the issues brought on by covid. Open your mind a little bit and look at the bigger picture.
@FM4AMGV
@FM4AMGV 10 месяцев назад
@@TheCrazyMoparDude68 The blame ultimately goes to every governor that paid people to stay home and do nothing, printing all that money has it's consequences, and it screws the hard working person that saved their money to be able to afford things.
@alextheonewarrior
@alextheonewarrior 10 месяцев назад
@TheCrazyMoparDude68 its not inflation dipshit. Its big corporations like ford raising their prices so that upper management can get huge raises and bonuses. Its been proven and talked about time and time again, when every company does it, it appears to be inflation, but its not. Wages haven't increased, they've stagnated and fallen behind even regular inflation rates.
@JoeOvercoat
@JoeOvercoat 10 месяцев назад
@@TheCrazyMoparDude68 your post, utterly fails to address the points raised in the post to replying to instead you just got your chip on your shoulder about the Democrats. Biden may be pretty lame and even pathetic. But Biden is a still a step up from anything the GOP has to offer.
@victormelendez4669
@victormelendez4669 10 месяцев назад
That is not working here in IL pricing still very high and all trucks and people keep paying up. Crazy!!
@ExilSvensk
@ExilSvensk 10 месяцев назад
I’m from Europe and we’re dealing with the same stuff. All car prices are completely out of touch with reality. I remember a time when cars costing close to 100k were all luxury cars. These days even your average joes work truck goes for close to 100k. It’s insanity. I think the winner will be whomever decides to allow customers to pick just what they want as feature rather than now throw them as different trim levels. Back in the day that might had made sense, these days way too much junk cramped into the cars. Over half which one doesn’t even need.
@red5standingby419
@red5standingby419 11 месяцев назад
Ford CEO: Now that we've raised our MSRP by 25% over the past three years... GOOD NEWS! We're going to drop the price of our vehicles 5%!
@finalboss7956
@finalboss7956 11 месяцев назад
Basically 😂 Its like when u go to a store & clothes are marked 30% off, but all they did was increase the sticker price by 50%, so they still come out on top & scammed you
@FeralPlumber
@FeralPlumber 11 месяцев назад
Prices are still insane; all I can see is repair shops getting wealthy with people keeping their current rides and getting them repaired when needed..........stealerships deserve to go belly up.
@David.D3
@David.D3 11 месяцев назад
Surprisingly I know a lot of people who don't maintain their vehicles. If their car turns on, they don't do maintenance or fluids for preventative maintenance.
@user-tb7rn1il3q
@user-tb7rn1il3q 11 месяцев назад
@@David.D3I only change the oil. I’ll throw on a new oil filter every second or third oil change. I change the air filters every 60k miles or so. No need to over maintain a car. Prices haven’t gone up as much as some people think they have. It’s the crazy markups that are the main issue. New car prices will remain flat for the next three years.
@pmscalisi
@pmscalisi 11 месяцев назад
@@user-tb7rn1il3qnot replacing the filter is the stupidest thing to do at an oil change. How long do you keep your vehicles?
@user-tb7rn1il3q
@user-tb7rn1il3q 11 месяцев назад
@@pmscalisi The oil filter works better with a little dirt in it. I’ve cut open an oil filter thats gone 3 oil changes and it had very little dirt in it. As long as you use a good air filter (no oil impregnated filters) the engine oil stays very clean.
@theINQBS
@theINQBS 11 месяцев назад
@@pmscalisi Actually, I'd be willing to bet you change your oil FAR MORE OFTEN than you need to. Manufacturers and dealerships tell you you should change your oil every 3K - 3.5K miles, but if you read the actual container of oil you'll notice it states double or more that, so if you're changing your oil according to dealer intervals, you're literally throwing money away on both the oil change AND the filter. I do all my own oil changes on my Cars, Motorcysles and Boats and I can tell you that if you're not going by what your oil itself says, you're throwing away money. And when you go to the dealer they will almost always immediately tell you your brakes are low and 75% of the time they're lying and if the person bringing the vehicle in for service you can almost bet your ass they will tell them the cabin and engine air filters are dangerously dirty and clogged and that they NEED to be replaced. Honda told my wife that bullshit and I was just down the street so I drove into the dealership and asked how they determined that and they said the service tech inspected them and saw they were filthy, and I then asked how much to change them both and he said $192.00!!!!! I asked why so much and he said well the filters are around $50 combined and the rest is labor! I said so you're telling me it takes over an hour to change them both? He said yes it's not that simple. So in front of all the customers I told him in a very loud and firm tone you guys are some of the most dishonest LIARS I have ever had the pleasure of dealing with. He got defensive and I told him I changed both filters just YESTERDAY and they cost me $26 for both AND it takes all of 5 minutes to change them both out! Him wanting to be a smart Alec tells me there's no way it tajes that little time! I said oh really?… FOLLOW ME!!!! I walked up to our Van, I popped the hood open, popped off THREE SNAPS, pulled the cover off and lifted out the filter, placed it back in and latched it back closed in less than 30 seconds. THEN I opened the passenger's side door, dropped the glove compartment down, removed it. took a screw driver and removed the cabin filter retaining screw, pulled off the door and slid out the filter and reinstalled it, put the door back on and screwed it closed, put back the glove compartment door and I was done and all in about 5 minutes. Everyone there was like WTF???!?!? so I stood on one of their benches and told everyone, so you can see, these people are THIEVES!!! they're illegally charging you for time they're not spending on your car! holy shit were people riled up! Now when my wife and I go there the manager takes care of us and we always get a discount on our oil changes, and they don't ever try to pull a fast one on us.
@ParkerWirl
@ParkerWirl 9 месяцев назад
Great video. We need to expose company’s and dealers that have been taking advantage and gouging the consumers.
@gary19222
@gary19222 11 месяцев назад
Remember in the 90s you could purchase a brand new Toyota pickup for like eight or nine thousand dollars? And trucks that would last 30 years. I certainly miss those times.
@christophergutierrez7138
@christophergutierrez7138 11 месяцев назад
Mid-size trucks above $35K seem like such robbery. When you factor in the fact that the full-size trucks are now all at around $60K~$70K+, it feels even worse. This HAS to be short term though because I can’t imagine either Dealers or Manufacturers can sustain this as it’s killing their units sold, even if they are marking up whatever does sell
@martinlebreton6391
@martinlebreton6391 10 месяцев назад
A one ton diesel nicely equipped. Like with fake leather and a sunroof thats gonna leak in 5 years is now north of 100,000$. Like its not a rolls royce.
@sweetnesisbeast
@sweetnesisbeast 10 месяцев назад
Bidenomics baby!!
@adamn7516
@adamn7516 10 месяцев назад
@@sweetnesisbeast Has nothing to do with Biden. People need to actually understand the current state of economics before spewing bullshit.
@davec.3198
@davec.3198 10 месяцев назад
Midsizes are all over 35k man.
@themospavlis9007
@themospavlis9007 10 месяцев назад
I built an F-150 a while ago sport trim with the 3.5 eco boost so I could pull a small RV and boat to replace my car and they wanted $65k. I said no thanks. I remember pre Covid I was looking into getting a truck and remember I could get a Silverado lt for around 40. These days I can’t even get the same one for the same price
@rat65novaman
@rat65novaman 11 месяцев назад
Im in the process of making my 1970 chevy c-10 a daily driver. Simple and reliable… not like the plastic fantastic computer fed junk made today… long live the classics!!!
@ironcladranchandforge7292
@ironcladranchandforge7292 11 месяцев назад
Yep, that's the way to do it. I have 2 diesel trucks I'm keeping on the road, an '05 Chevy and an '08 Dodge. But I'm also starting work on a 1980 GMC pickup (gas) that I'll probably use as a daily driver and use the diesel trucks less. I absolutely refuse to buy a new truck at these ridiculous prices, or even a used truck for that matter. I'll keep what I have for as long as I can!!
@londen3547
@londen3547 11 месяцев назад
Yeah that's wild, you can dump $10-12k into an old beater to make it reliable and still come out way ahead. Even the prices of used low mileage vehicles are insane.
@jerichostevens2711
@jerichostevens2711 11 месяцев назад
I brought a 99 s10 back to life for my daily driver... the parts are so cheap for it... its slow but I enjoy it.
@ironcladranchandforge7292
@ironcladranchandforge7292 11 месяцев назад
@@jerichostevens2711 -- No need to go fast for a daily commuter. You just need to get where you're going. I'm glad you're not falling for this over priced crap!!
@jamesrecknor6752
@jamesrecknor6752 11 месяцев назад
67-72 C-10, sweet classics.
@QuietDriver97
@QuietDriver97 10 месяцев назад
2021 was really the end of finding even remotely fair deals on used vehicles in my area. Luckily I worked for a dealership so I got first shot at any trade in of interest. For $15k I got a rust free, 4x4, Z71, 5.3, LT 2012 Silverado that I know will outlast any new stuff being barfed on the public. Sure the truck had 104k miles on it when purchased but, it's still a winning investment to repair as it needs without an $800 monthly payment. Since then the same dealer and others have marked up used vehicles because they caught on to the waning new car interest.
@crs1474
@crs1474 10 месяцев назад
Maybe we all should be car salesman for a few months every couple of years 🧐
@marciasken
@marciasken 10 месяцев назад
If I could get the courage to bury my morals and rip out my spine……..I too could sell cars.
@QuietDriver97
@QuietDriver97 10 месяцев назад
@@crs1474 I was a detailer.
@QuietDriver97
@QuietDriver97 10 месяцев назад
@@marciasken I was a detailer so luckily some spine was left in tact.
@crs1474
@crs1474 10 месяцев назад
@@QuietDriver97 cool. Glad it worked out for you 👏
@ip4pwn1
@ip4pwn1 10 месяцев назад
I worked for a dealer, there was a time when markups were justified, when we had very little inventory & literally needed to make the money to keep the ball rolling in lieu of volume. Those days are past tho, & no longer justified.
@greenpumpkin81
@greenpumpkin81 11 месяцев назад
A bad CEO never gets punished for destroying a good company. This has to change or it will only get worse
@jamesrecknor6752
@jamesrecknor6752 11 месяцев назад
Mr Farley is going to end up living in a Ford van, DOWN BY THE RIVER!
@alsnow3582
@alsnow3582 11 месяцев назад
@@jamesrecknor6752 Have you seen what his salary is? Ford paid him $20m in 2022. I can imagine he sits in his corner office laughing every day at us stupid consumers willing to pay so much for a vehicle. He could retire at any time and live like a king for the rest of his life.
@Bill-sp8kb
@Bill-sp8kb 11 месяцев назад
@@alsnow3582 Ought to be $20k/yr.
@ent1311
@ent1311 10 месяцев назад
Stealerships should be outlawed.
@schildress0467
@schildress0467 10 месяцев назад
Get this, I heard Fords big reveal at the Detroit Auto Show this year is the Ford Lightning Hybrid 🤣😂🤣 All that money they wasted on electric cars & now they want to go back to hybrids.
@brandonsmith666
@brandonsmith666 11 месяцев назад
i would like to see videos of dealerships closing…
@bawhite125
@bawhite125 11 месяцев назад
#JusticePorn
@JayD_113
@JayD_113 10 месяцев назад
If they would actually do the direct to consumer sales it would be fine. At or below MSRP is reasonable but dealers are marking up vehicles 10-60k and that’s just insane
@ryanpatterson9526
@ryanpatterson9526 10 месяцев назад
I worked at that Boise Ford dealership during the great recession 08-09. We couldn't give those trucks away. Wow, how things have changed!
@GetsumJ
@GetsumJ 11 месяцев назад
I have been a Ford A/Z-Plan buyer for over 30 years. The standard dealer mark-up has always been Invoice +6%. Now we are seeing Invoice +22%. Many dealers are scamming consumers.
@bradz2451
@bradz2451 11 месяцев назад
I’ve owned a lot of full sized trucks over the years but there’s no way I’m paying 60K+ for a truck. My max is mid 40s for pretty well equipped.
@derbesteHanika
@derbesteHanika 10 месяцев назад
Start walking buddy.......
@MOAON_AABE
@MOAON_AABE 10 месяцев назад
Agreed 💯
@gmualum08
@gmualum08 10 месяцев назад
​@@derbesteHanikayep, it's the dealership employees that are gonna walk, right out of a job
@richardasunrise3514
@richardasunrise3514 10 месяцев назад
It's Awesome that you hang with your Mom, I loved spending time with my Mom infact I took care of her because of Alzheimer's and loved spending time with her.
@teeheeteeheeish
@teeheeteeheeish 10 месяцев назад
Part of the reason for this insanity are federal policies making manufacturing a no-win scenario in this country. Add to it inflation, fuel costs, and supply chain costs, the bottom line is bleak. So naturally, the consumer suffers first.
@tvdinner325
@tvdinner325 11 месяцев назад
we went to the dealer to buy the base model EV F150, when it was released at $39K. They wanted $59K! We left. F... them!
@bones549
@bones549 11 месяцев назад
My thoughts exactly
@AdamGibbyMC2012
@AdamGibbyMC2012 11 месяцев назад
yup had my reservation too - promptly cancelled - this is the real corporate greed.
@loubro2372
@loubro2372 11 месяцев назад
I went to look at a bronco. Knowing it’s new and in demand, I was will to pay MSRP, something I have never done. I took it for a drive. Liked it. Said to the guy when I went back, I know there is no discounts or rebates, but I would be interested in buying. He came to me with numbers after trade in and cash down. They added $12k over sticker. I said you’re nuts and left. They called me three times over the next few weeks. Told them not interested. The overcharge was now $7,500. This is a dealer I bought at least 9 new cars in the past from. No more.
@timpiper8369
@timpiper8369 11 месяцев назад
Just wondering what would ford think if all the potential buyers chose to short ford on the markets knowing no one wants to buy there bs. Just a question lol.
@tvdinner325
@tvdinner325 11 месяцев назад
@@timpiper8369 Good idea. Ford are already doing it, like the GQP did for COVID!
@Mudslingr
@Mudslingr 11 месяцев назад
My 2006 F150 FX4 has 334,000km on it. It started clunking and clacking because of shattered timing chain guides. In the last couple years I've redone the front end, rear end, installed a rebuilt tranny and did a full timing job on my own. Also replaced parts like the starter, power steering pump, alternator and the usual coils and plugs. Starting to work on the body which was getting awful a little bit at a time. So far has cost me under $17,000CAD to do all this work. About $60,000 less than a new one. I owe a big thanks to @FordTechMakuloco for his extremely excellent r&r videos which I used to be able to do the work myself. I expect to get at least another 250,000km out of it now and I'm happy. And the fact it does not have all the fancy gizmo shit makes it even better.
@usmcmsgt5487
@usmcmsgt5487 10 месяцев назад
I remember going to a chevy dealership Looking for a truck but they didn't have much in inventory so i looked at a C8 corvette it was marked up $25,000.00. A dealer walked up to me and asked me if I would like to check it out, i said not after seeing that price hungry mark up.
@Nick-mc2hy
@Nick-mc2hy 10 месяцев назад
Bought my Tacoma new in 2018. Kids are getting bigger and now I’m thinking I might need that full size. This post covid market is wild. Trucks were expensive enough but they brought up prices by 20% and now promise lowering them by 5-10%. Hold out people. They can’t charge these prices if we don’t buy.
@Chubbydippin
@Chubbydippin 11 месяцев назад
The old expression "You get what you pay for" has almost no meaning or reference when it comes to so many new and used vehicles. There was a time when paying more for one brand as opposed to paying less for a different brand meant the product was better. The blue oval costs too much and doesn't last. If someone is paying 80k for a truck, a 5k markup isn't even a problem for that consumer. The Real travesty is paying a 8 to 10k markup on a msrp in the 28k range. That gouging of consumers who would never even consider, nor could afford a raptor, is the true problem for hard working people who have far less financial leverage. Our Government shouldn't assist or help bail them out. These businesses that create their own problems should feel the same pain small businesses feel when they go under. Instead of learning from sleazy tactics and changing how they do buisness, big corporations get assistance to keep raking us over the coals. Every manufacturer has lemons and some quality issues. But atleast paying more for a Toyota, more times than not, leads to a longer life vehicle.
@richardrybarczyk1143
@richardrybarczyk1143 11 месяцев назад
I’ve always said that people should be able to deal directly with the factory on new cars . Color trim levels and prices should be set and the dealers should not be allowed to gouge the people who want a new car. Order it and have it directly shipped to you with a set price.
@ph1shstyx
@ph1shstyx 10 месяцев назад
I know subaru allows this now, my younger brother didn't see the one he wanted on the lot so they ordered it direct from the factory for a $500 deposit. Every manufacturer needs to do this. I don't want any of the extra features on my vehicles, just give me the base unit but you can't find any of those on the lot as they don't make any money from them.
@Chaoslordx13
@Chaoslordx13 10 месяцев назад
I hate dealerships, one time I went in to buy a new car, saw the window price and it looked good, tried to get a better deal but didnt push it much but they refused to sell it lower than a price HIGHER than the window... went back and forth for a bit and told them to go check the window price and I left... I started getting spammed with calls and messages apologizing trying to make me go back. Id rather have fixed prices
@jagbrave
@jagbrave 10 месяцев назад
Crazy prices…. My 2008 was purchased for 40k back in the day. I couldn’t bring myself to pay 2x for a new one.
@tmckinney3055
@tmckinney3055 11 месяцев назад
The Ford dealer near my house was charging double for full size Broncos and $25k on top of F150's. It's crazy to have markup when the prices are already high before mark ups.
@brandon9491
@brandon9491 10 месяцев назад
Thats crazy, my Ford dealership actually sells at msrp(planet ford 45) and i even got my 2018 focus st for 8k off msrp(bc aka before covid)
@2011blueman
@2011blueman 10 месяцев назад
I never saw that. I was one of the first people to get their Bronco at my local dealership and they sold them at MSRP. For the ones that were canceled customer orders or dealer stock the most I saw them mark up was $15,000 at the very beginning of the Bronco production.
@gerardgalletta6943
@gerardgalletta6943 10 месяцев назад
Dealers can only charge these ridiculous prices if there are morons willing to pay.
@doom4067
@doom4067 9 месяцев назад
I once requested the price on a Tacoma. Quickly find out that the stealership wanted $10,000 over MSRP. That's their own business, but they kept sending me harassing emails after that.
@SV-lw8jo
@SV-lw8jo 11 месяцев назад
Dealerships epitomize the epitome of frustration and disappointment. Their high-pressure sales tactics, exorbitant prices, and manipulative tactics make the car-buying experience a nightmare. Their existence in the process only serves to exploit and deceive customers. It's time to remove dealerships from the equation and create a transparent, customer-centric car-buying experience that puts the power back in the hands of consumers.
@Lordoftheswollen
@Lordoftheswollen 11 месяцев назад
People think that but then you end up paying more because there's no one to negotiate the price down. No one wants to buy the first numbers presented, but that's what it would be without the dealer.
@magneric
@magneric 10 месяцев назад
Then the dealerships falsely advertise a vehicle's capabilities and the warranty... They're liars and get away with it
@AscDrew
@AscDrew 10 месяцев назад
I was shopping 3.6L ecoboost XLT F150s back in 2018. They were $42-45K new on the dealer lots (asking price). I bought a 2015 F150 XLT 3.6L eco boost, used instead in 2018 for $23K out the door. So year these prices are crazy! New went from $45K to $70K-$90K in 5 years. The chip shortage is basically over, supply is Here, so WHY the huge price gouge still???
@shaynerism
@shaynerism 10 месяцев назад
The best cure for high prices is high prices. Stop buying until they come down or die off. "Dealer Markup" should be an automatic no-buy.
@rafaelmogollan1724
@rafaelmogollan1724 11 месяцев назад
Full size broncos should be from base to raptor ~25 to 60k tops. At least thats what I would expect to be within affordable pricing
@thedude1316
@thedude1316 11 месяцев назад
No one cares about or can afford a Raptor. Why do you keep talking about these?
@tkp4787
@tkp4787 10 месяцев назад
I got lucky I was really looking to buy a Tacoma then my friend that’s a car salesman hit me up saying they had a 2023 chevy Silverado z71 rst for 8k off. The sticker price was 60k. Right when he told me it was going to be 52k I told him here is another 8k down and this was back in April..still think I came out ahead in this day in age
@robertwampler6053
@robertwampler6053 10 месяцев назад
Here in the PNW the dealerships mark everything up I was told a 20k add on price for a Mach e
@randallanno2327
@randallanno2327 11 месяцев назад
To answer your mom's question on "who can afford this?" most can't, a lot of them end up having to buy used
@JohnDoe-le8fy
@JohnDoe-le8fy 11 месяцев назад
And those brand new 80k vehicles get moved to no mans land in a lot for 5 years and then crushed, clownworld economics.
@AdamGibbyMC2012
@AdamGibbyMC2012 11 месяцев назад
and used arent much better. The car market is toast - needs to be nuked. PEOPLE STOP BUYING. We have power, USE IT!
@fortheloveofnoise9298
@fortheloveofnoise9298 11 месяцев назад
no, they end up buying and using credit and getting into more and more debt because most of them don't plan on being around and will live fast and die quick
@willberg8599
@willberg8599 11 месяцев назад
There are way more people who buy these than there are people who can afford them 💁🏻‍♂️
@budstep7361
@budstep7361 11 месяцев назад
84 month financing available for anyone that has to buy new 🤣
@tvdinner325
@tvdinner325 11 месяцев назад
I have NEVER paid MSRP for a new vehicle in 40 years!
@kimchee94112
@kimchee94112 11 месяцев назад
Around the last production of the Mazda RX-8 in 2012, I saw good deals on both new F-150 and new RX-8 for $10K each in the Bay Area. Not many buyers for either RX-8 or F150 which coincided with the highest gas prices then.
@Anon1mous
@Anon1mous 11 месяцев назад
Me too until 2 years ago for a new Tacoma. Every other dealer wanted at least $5k over so MSRP was a deal. Toyota generally has lower markups so you’re not going to get $10k off like ford and Chevy and dodge.
@pmscalisi
@pmscalisi 11 месяцев назад
@@kimchee94112back then the high minded SF bunch thought a truck was too “redneck” 😂.
@simon-oy6um
@simon-oy6um 10 месяцев назад
Who the hell can just afford to go out and coldly spend nearly $90,000 on a mass produced pickup truck 😢😢
@rodger7029
@rodger7029 10 месяцев назад
Fixed, non-negotiable pricing. That worked beautifully for Saturn and Oldsmobile
@bighardtop
@bighardtop 11 месяцев назад
A large, local Ford dealer in the Kansas City area has about 8 to 10 used 2022 Bronco's (2,500 - 8,000 miles on the odometer) priced at $10,000 to $12,000 HIGHER than the original new window sticker price. They've been on the lot for at least a month.
@rtreyk
@rtreyk 10 месяцев назад
Which one? Bob Allen?
@bighardtop
@bighardtop 10 месяцев назад
@@rtreyk Yep
@gmualum08
@gmualum08 10 месяцев назад
Good I hope they rot, they don't deserve to sell a single one. I'm old enough to remember when it was a Cardinal sin to pay MSRP, now you're practically stuck paying that due to artificial short supply
@rtreyk
@rtreyk 10 месяцев назад
@@bighardtop that's where I got my gt500. Unfortunately paid 15,000 ADM
@assssss3661
@assssss3661 10 месяцев назад
​@@rtreykunlucky
@chrisrwalker93
@chrisrwalker93 11 месяцев назад
I remember when I bought a new Tacoma in 2014 I was looking at an F150 and said "$36k is just waaaaay too much" and got a fairly base line Tacoma for $24k, brand new. Same truck now is pushing $40k and the F150 price hit the moon. I just don't understand who's buying these things, the payments are more than a mortgage....
@officialyasir
@officialyasir 10 месяцев назад
Adjusting for inflation, your 24k in 2014 would be 31k today. Base Tacoma today is $30k. I think the main problem is that wages haven't kept up with inflation.
@FollowerOfChrist98
@FollowerOfChrist98 10 месяцев назад
They need to start selling at MSRP and then Ford will start seeing good sales. 5-10 percent off a 10k markup doesn't mean anything.
@Tribudo
@Tribudo 10 месяцев назад
This is the 4th time I've seen a video since 2019 that has said the dealers are starting to lower their prices. I don't really see any difference. Like the the gas hike. It's still 3.70 a gallon here after a year and a half of being told the price is going down. Still no change
@Jagd_Adventures
@Jagd_Adventures 11 месяцев назад
Let the dealers enjoy making those floor plan payments.
@Johnny_Bee
@Johnny_Bee 11 месяцев назад
It’s all part of the plan, EV’s are losing money so they have to make it up on ICE trucks pricing.
@Jodyrides
@Jodyrides 10 месяцев назад
I always bought Ford’s. this time I bought a ram 1500 crew cab hemi. I bought it in 2017. I have not had a single problem. Nothing after nearly 7 years… I spent five days taking my time in rust proofing it due to the fact that they throw salt for five months a year here in Western Pennsylvania. I rushed proved it with fluid film. So far so good. I just did a trip to the shore, 800 mile round-trip. I got 26 miles per gallon… That was in spite of the fact that traffic slowed down to 10 miles an hour through all the construction zones on the Pennsylvania Turnpike and interstate 70, 81, and 95 at times
@JoseSalazar-pl7mn
@JoseSalazar-pl7mn 10 месяцев назад
I grew up with a ‘71 f250, my first vehicle was a ‘87 ranger and I currently been driving a ‘94 f150, but I have no plans on purchasing anything new anytime soon. Especially, for anything over $50k. I May have to look for a Tacoma under $40k
@kathycarswell2202
@kathycarswell2202 11 месяцев назад
They cost too much!!!
@tomkruger3496
@tomkruger3496 11 месяцев назад
Toyota CAN build cars fast enough to satisfy demand but they choose not to.
@scottyh72
@scottyh72 11 месяцев назад
Of course not. They keep the demand high so that people are ok with stupid pricing. Simple economics.
@willyjimmy8881
@willyjimmy8881 11 месяцев назад
I can tell you with 100% certainty they ARE building them as fast as they can. The San Antonio Tundra plant and Baja Tacoma plant are running over capacity to meet dealer demand and as fast as the suppliers can feed them parts. But for Toyota the demand is through the roof this year mostly because the other makers are marking up so much and people are wanting a vehicle guaranteed to keep its value.
@samsquanch1382
@samsquanch1382 11 месяцев назад
@@willyjimmy8881and it’s reliability. Most car manufacturers are building the vehicles outside of the us and using cheaper parts to make shareholders happy
@Brandon-ou4wc
@Brandon-ou4wc 10 месяцев назад
Average income in the 1980s, 20,000 to 24,000 and the average 4x4 new ford truck was 9,000 to 12,000. Forty years later the average income is 57,000 to 62,000 and the Average 4x4 ford truck is around 50,000 with minimum upgrades, and standard to high end trucks are 60,000 to 100,000 .
@savagedan100
@savagedan100 10 месяцев назад
Ken Grody ford in Carlsbad CA quoted be a Raptor at $130,000. This was the non "R" option. It was the V6 turbo model
@ninji5226
@ninji5226 11 месяцев назад
What blows my mind the most is the Tacoma's and Colorado's and Rangers are $40k+, for a midsize truck that has very limited (imo) truck capabilities.
@Utahtruckguy
@Utahtruckguy 10 месяцев назад
Ya that’s insane! I about shit myself when I saw they want 40k for a new rav 4??? Wow!
@captnebulace
@captnebulace 10 месяцев назад
Even used Toyota are wildly expensive. I’m west coast and over here used 4Runners and Tacomas with over 250k miles are still selling for a minimum of 15k. Usually closer to 20k. The demand for Toyotas is insane right now
@BassRacerx
@BassRacerx 10 месяцев назад
the ranger can tow 7500 lbs and the colorado can tow 7700 lbs that is an par with a 1500 class truck from 2007. the trucks are physically smaller than a 1500 today but the question is how much truck do you really need?
@ctaylor8003
@ctaylor8003 10 месяцев назад
@@BassRacerx a sheet of plywood is 8x4. none of those trucks can carry one
@ninji5226
@ninji5226 10 месяцев назад
@@BassRacerx I wouldn't tow 7500lbs with a ranger. I tow a 7k camper with a half ton and I wish I had a 3/4 ton sometimes. The trucks themselves are fine for light duty but my point is the price is not in line with the functionality.
@Joe-ie8vk
@Joe-ie8vk 11 месяцев назад
Your mother hit the nail on the head. Nobody can afford this and these dealerships and car companies are out of there minds. I see the same things at the dealerships in my town and it’s crazy even used trucks 2015s for almost 40 grand and there 100,000 miles ish trucks so definitely used. And there just sitting there shocker right.
@peterchen3295
@peterchen3295 10 месяцев назад
Before Covid in F250 XL STX package 6.7 diesel engine will only cost $55,000, now that same truck will cost $70,000. How can we afford it?
@Red_Bearded_Dad
@Red_Bearded_Dad 11 месяцев назад
Not going to say I love any dealership, but I just bought a 2wd 2023 Ford F150 XL 5.0L SuperCrew (101A High) for $4000 BELOW MSRP (Stickered for $46K/discounted to $42K) . With my trade/taxes/fees I was out the door for $35K. It was a truck on the lot, not pre-ordered. I confirmed by building a truck just like mine on Ford's website. Not sure if it helped, but I requested the same salesman we used for my wife's Expedition bought new in 2020.
@Graves-81_69
@Graves-81_69 11 месяцев назад
My local Ford dealership got a Bronco Raptor a while back and had it marked up to $115k. The insane thing is they sold it. Dealer markups need to be a felony
@ezacher4634
@ezacher4634 11 месяцев назад
It sold so....
@menacetosociety7454
@menacetosociety7454 11 месяцев назад
Sadly 110-120k for the Bronco Raptors is normal at the moment. Cheapest one I’ve seen was 105k
@dr._breens_beard
@dr._breens_beard 11 месяцев назад
It has to be people with 8 or 9 figure liquid assets that are buying em at that price.
@gregggriffith4795
@gregggriffith4795 11 месяцев назад
Bronco Raptors are a want, not a need. Who cares what they mark them up? If you want them bad enough, you’ll pay. If not, you’ll be like me and drive something you’re willing to pay for. No reason for a felony.
@mcnuggetapple
@mcnuggetapple 11 месяцев назад
@@gregggriffith4795something we want shouldn’t be unobtainable. It’s not just rich bastards that should be allowed to have fun
@advancedvinylrepair4319
@advancedvinylrepair4319 11 месяцев назад
I think the bigger problem is the exorbitant cost from the manufacturer than the 5k markup.
@localpizza.
@localpizza. 11 месяцев назад
that couldn’t be farther from the truth lmao, 5k markup along with hidden markups they don’t tell you about until you’re literally signing the paperwork. Go buy a car at a dealership you’ll know what I’m talking about
@mitch_the_-itch
@mitch_the_-itch 10 месяцев назад
Your Govt did that to you by artificially creating dollars out of thin air. Corporations have nothing to do with that, lololol. The real Bill isnt evn due yet. We are going to pay overa trillion in interest on the debt this year..
@ArseneLupin786
@ArseneLupin786 10 месяцев назад
Agreed. This needs more attention than a dealer markup
@richardtaylor5670
@richardtaylor5670 10 месяцев назад
5k markup? I was just in a dealer trading my wife's suv in recently. There was a 36k markup on one of the cars there. Nearly doubled the price of the car
@svenelven138
@svenelven138 10 месяцев назад
5k?!? You mean 30k to 50k... lol
@michaeldittmer5065
@michaeldittmer5065 10 месяцев назад
To note: my local Toyota dealer markups their cars, but does not put this on the window sticker or website. Is it illegal? Probably as I live in CA. They will simply tell you orally that you have to pay let’s say 8k over to get a GR86. So lack of window markup is not necessarily clear to buy at MSRP
@TheGeeser1
@TheGeeser1 10 месяцев назад
I’ve got a Ford escape that’s started having a lot of issues. Been trying to fix them myself. I’ve been overcoming the difficulty of self repair due to compactness of the components under the hood. When Ford tried to charge me $3000 to fix my power steering, I decided I would never get another Ford. They tried to sell me the power steering assembly by itself for $1800 when it was $900 everywhere else.
@gordonclark7632
@gordonclark7632 11 месяцев назад
These dealers just can't see what they are doing to themselves. With the number of reviewers reporting on the dealer market up rip off system, you would think that they would change their behaviour. Maybe they are just not embarrassed about being exposed as rip off merchants.
@pitch5330
@pitch5330 10 месяцев назад
Lol the thing is whats gonna happen to them? Nothing because theres no regulatory body or law against price gouging consumers by having a close knit market and solidarity among dealers. They just tell you oh well the cars in the area sell for this much for miles so it would be dumbd to lower prices
@eunylee241
@eunylee241 11 месяцев назад
long time ago.., Henry Ford make a car for the regular people's... now, FORD and this CEO want a deal with rich people's and Lottery winner only....very disappointed...shame on you. GM and TOYOTA...shame on you too.
@drewjames8594
@drewjames8594 10 месяцев назад
Crazy, I bought my 2020 Ram 2500 Cummins night edition just like that last truck in late 2019 and was listed at 74 & I paid 65k out the door. I thought that was a crazy number! I would never buy a new truck in todays market.
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