This is what I call a job well done. It is very hard to compare the settings since the most critical ones require restarting the game. I have an OneXPlayer with integrated Intel Iris XE card and I can run this game surprisingly well at higher settings. Comparing the differences like this is extremely helpful. Keep up the good work and your channel should have a brilliant future! Thanks!
Thanks Rafael! Yes the restarting between settings changes makes a slightly tedious task extremely tedious! The most frustrating thing is getting accuracy, the time between restarts is annoying but doing those restarts and coming back to a completely different looking scene due to clouds going over the sun etc.... zzzzzzzzz
great job indeed. Helpful AND he explained with good examples how things worked. Ive watched a bunch of these vids over time and I still dont know or remember stuff. but after this vid ill never forget what shades do. also helped me reduce all settings from ultra cause apparently i didnt need them to be. thx
Amazing content. Would be even more amazing if you can include a conclusion section where you give us your personal preferences for each setting, maximizing the visual fidelity/fps cost ratio
I'd like to do this, it's just a really big task because i have to tweak all of those settings before i can make the video. I may break these videos in to a 2/3 part series in future. 1 for performance, one for deep dive into what all the settings do.
@@HecticRun That would be nice as well, but honestly I would prefer a video that summarizes everything with FPS and quality to make it easy for us to know which settings to choose :)
@@andre_ss6 Thanks for the input, i am hearing this is what people want! I will see how i can incorporate this info in future to make it easier for everyone.
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@@HecticRun I wish you could show the fps difference between settings too.
I wish i could as well, but it's too difficult because a lot of this stuff is just in the open world and the FPS info is not possible to accurately capture. I could show it, but sometimes you lower the settings and the FPS gets wrose, and people would be questioning the data... and rightly so.
Whoever is looking at the video now... The ultra texture quality has been fixed and has high resolution textures (which should be slightly lower still compared to extreme but way better then high).
@@voltvisuals yeah the game is really gorgeous,the gameplay is enjoyable and it isnt punishing either for a casual gamer like me.I love exploring in this game.Haven't even gotten into the races too much,just been exploring the map and its been really fun so far.
For the effects, when you're driving at night and break, and or have headlights on, it makes a lense glare appear horizontally, and it looks really good.
Your forgot one major thing about texture quality, and also why the settings are tied to each other. Ultra Textures / Geometry contains static lightning data, and this data is only baked to the ultra / extreme geometry models/textures (it's the lightning bounces on the map objects, it's also called static lightning, or lightmaps) When you lower this setting to high, it switches to other 3D models wich doesn't contain lightning data, you can see what I mean here: 10:14 For example the house appear much darker, because it didn't contain the "lightmaps" (google this), this is to save space, but it's really dumb, the devs should have baked this lightning data on each level of setting exept low, because this lightning data takes VRAM, but no real performance since it's baked (pre-calculated). And the devs said it was a bug for the setting being tied to each other, but baking such data takes time, I just think they ran out of time and just baked the ultra/extreme. That's the big drawback, for example, A pc with a good graphic card, but not enough VRAM could just lower the settings and keep the lightning data, because it does half of the job in term of visuals. EDIT: 9:37 here, you can clearly see on the top the light being reflected from the ground to the house, it's a lightning texture, and on bottom, the game doesn't have baked light data for that object in high... wich is shame. It looks worse in the city and in the tunnels, since they will just appear fully bright or fully dark!!!
Hi Raphpower, I don't think i really forgot to add this information, it's more of a case that i didn't know this!! So thanks for the detailed information about this, i really appreciate it. I will take this information and play around with it to see if I can make some more examples to showcase the difference and understand how it works better! Amazing comment!
I think it’s actually even MORE complicated than that. This game has two lighting data sets - one for low-high textures, one for ultra-extreme, and the ONLY way to switch between them is also using the corresponding shader quality setting (low-high or ultra-extreme), otherwise it just breaks completely and results in what you see in this video - I would assume all texture comparisons were done with max shaders. This game is weird. Oh and btw, this was fixed in the November 8 update)
I really appreciate the effort put in this video, there must've been a lot of game restart. I was looking to find the difference between geometry settings by myself but it's so hard without side by side comparisons like in this video. Great job.
I've avoided the bug you've mentioned in the video. You can simply edit the config file of the game. The name of it is "UserConfigSelections". Just set the textures quality to "high" and the geometry to whatever you want. (0 - low, 1 - medium, 2 - high, 3 - ultra, 4 - extreme)
@@SysWOOOW Hey, thanks for this information! It was a bug!!! It's been fixed in the new patch :) I'll make a video today with updated information for everyone.
Hey mate, that must have taken ages to make. I’m 50 years old but I’ve not used windows before and I bought this gaming computer. I don’t know what the hell certain things do and am I stressing my vram. Well done on a really top vid that really looks under the hood. You have just saved my ass. But even when I had the wrong settings it still looked better than anything I had ever seen. I had bought World Rally Car 10 before this. I had not played it in four months because I discovered this. I went back to play WRC 10 and everything looked like minecraft. Cheers mate.
It's unfortunate DigitalFoundry isn't going in-depth on the game this time unlike previously, glad you have our back, +1 like, +1 sub :) -- the more because you make content i like ^^
Oh man the amount of work you've done here is impressive. The game is well optimized but this kind of comparison helps everyone in the community with old and low end hardware to make the best out of what they have. Thanks a lot for all the effort, this must've taken a lot of time on your end.
Great work putting this together. Extremely helpful! Much better than just aimlessly adjusting settings without knowing what each one does. You earned the sub!
anisotropic filtering has nothing to do with distance. its about the ANGLE of textures. the more flat of an angle you look at a texture, the more it looks like a mushy soup. this option prevents that effect so even at a sharp angle, your textures look good.
Thanks man. This really helped me finding the right settings. I tried everything to get the best resolution and smoothest Gameplay, i changed every Settting but didn't knew what im actually changing.
Question for anyone who knows - when coming out of a tunnel is there any setting that will turn OFF the blinding light effect? If so, which setting is it please.
I don't know the answer to this right now, but there's definitely something. I've been testing on lower power cards on lower settings and the blinding light is defintely not there, so something somewhere can turn it off, i just haven't gone through to work it out yet.
I just wanna say thank you for doing this. It's much appreciated by me and many others!!! Furthermore, it was excellently presented and i thoroughly enjoyed watching!
Please make a follow up video as they by now patched the game a lot, the Hotwheels Expansion is out, you can now use TAA instead of MSAA and the upscaling now uses AMD Fidelity FX and looks much better! And for difficult comparsions use the benchmark mode as it is exactly the same scene every time even when you have to restart the game when changing settings :)
I see that between certain graphics options between ultra or extreme or others there is no visible difference. what would you recommend as settings to gain FPS while maintaining graphics quality?
It's a hard question to answer without knowing what your hardware specs are, what FPS you are getting and what your current settings are. Not trying to be difficult but without that info it's difficult to give an answer. There definitely is minimal difference between ultra and extreme on a lot of things, and then a simple answer would just be to use the Ultra preset. But you might be already using ultra and want more FPS, and then the answer to the question would be different! Need more info to be able to give you a better answer.
@@HecticRun Thank you for your reply. I currently have an i7-8700k clocked at 4500Mhz, 16GB DDR4 Corsair Pro Vengeance 3200Mhz OC 3400Mhz and a GTX 1080 TI GAMING X OC All at the same time in 1080p I am at 72FPS in the benchmark Here to optimize a bit, I reduced the shadows from extreme to ultra (because I don't really see a difference between the two) and I changed the geometry from extreme to ultra (because I see nothing different either if this is just less vegetation) What do you think ?
I've just run a bunch of comparison tests on this, I couldn't see any difference with the pop in difference between all 6 geometry settings. It's possible the lower the vram you have the more this has an effect. I'll be interested to see if anyone can spot any differences, the video is rendering now, should be up tomorrow.
@@HecticRun thank you for checking. It might just be placebo. I only compared the 3 highest presets. Couldn't tell a difference between high and ultra but I felt less very close tree and bush LOD changes on extreme. No side to side comparisons though, this makes it harder.
@@PetrisonRocha You could be correct, I just haven't been able to observe the difference! Make sure you check out my next video, it's uploading now, it has a full race of all 6 settings from geometry detail, not side by side, but top to bottom. It's a nice comparison.
I was playing this game with extreme settings (minus motion blur which I always disable as a personal preference) in 1080p with my 6700 XT (no hiccups at all) and I was wondering the difference between ultra and extreme. This was self explanatory.
7:51 Ultra texture clearly have something wrong, whenever there is a large kerb like the one to drain flood on certain road the textures are like in really low quality (only this part of the road, that's odd to look).
Yeah you're right there is a bug in ultra textures. Also when set in ultra the draw distance becomes sh*t. I Hope they'll fix it soon btw great video really helped me a lot thanks:)
Glad you found it helpful, that ultra setting just doesn't make sense to me, wish i had an xbox so i could compare, but i don't! Maybe in the future i'll get one.
Good video but 1 more thing. You could have talked about the performance hit of every setting in case of low vs. extreme as it yields less work and gives an idea. Settings will impact performance differently whether the system is gpu or cpu bound of course but at least with your case it could give reference.
Thank you man! Loved this, the way you go in depth into the smallest things, thats a lot of effort. Been trying to find the best settings to play at with my 1660s, Im a visual freak for this game and my card is tiptoing for my satisfaction haha. Yeah the ultra texture quality is legit dogwater as I cannot even read the text that is written on some of the buildings, its completely blurred. So now Im playing basically at max settings with just 3 turned down to ultra. Getting around 30-40fps which is still quite playable for my eyes and I'd be happy with it, if it didn't start breaking the game after half an hour of playing it. Cuz the game is trying to use like 8gb of vram out of the 5.1gb dedicated vram for the game, it starts to mess with the road, mountain and grass textures making them look like the matrix, its weird...
Thanks, glad you liked the video! Today I just picked up a 2060 6gb video card, so i can test this range now! I got the 6gb card specifcally so i can do some testing around 6gb and what you can and can't turn on. 40fps i would struggle to play at, 60 fps i'm much happier!
@@alesiobobi3810 Yeah, especially if he's playing at 1080p. The 1660 shouldn't have any real issues running FH5 above 60fps quite consistently (at least until the memory leak starts to ruin the frame rate.)
@@AvenirRacing That so ? I haven't played the game yet but I might in the next couple of days. I have a 1660 super and an i5 10400. What settings should I use when playing at 1080p with MSAA ? Cheers.
I'm surprised you know and can explain a lot about all the other graphics option except for the ray tracing option. First of all it's not "RTX" in FH5 as there's no rtx support from Nvidia to enable it, there's just ray tracing. And Also The reason you say ray tracing is used minimally here is because the ray tracing is only used for the car's self reflections, meaning it's not ray tracing the world and environment onto the car's body, only the mirrors, wing, and other external objects. Great video!
Ultra geometry gives you 3d grass, while High gives you 2d grass that turns as you turn. Fucking dx7 graphivs bruh. Dogshit game, truly. Boring as hell too after story
I can run the game on max settings easily and I know what each option does already idk why Im watching this. Great video though, really informative for people that dont
Awesome!! I watch videos all the time about games i don't own or never intend to, I guess that's just how the rabbit hole works!! Thanks for the comment!
Hi Sir, If You Want To Know Why There's No Difference Between Reflection Quality Setting on Hood in This Particular Scene 13:27 .. That's Because It's Actually Depends On SSR Quality. And If You Could Zoom or Crop Into The Video Next Time You're Talking About Small Details Like in This Scene 10:47 .. I Will Really Appreciate It Because I'm Watching You From A Small Laptop 15.6 Inch Screen :)
The reason the "hood" reflection isn't effected is cause it's using screen space reflections, as well as cube maps. It's the same technique as they use for the water
Well the best way to play with nice graphics is put all settings to max except the Environment texture quality and Environment geometry quality, the Environment texture quality u can put it to high but don't go more or it will drop a lot of fps for the best but these Environment texture quality and Environment geometry quality to low for best results and specially if u have low VRAM like 4GB VRAM if u have more then its up to u u can increase it and no issue will come, my specs are RTX 3050 4GB VRAM, 16GB RAM, CORE i5 11th Gen, 144hz Display and its a Laptop and im getting like 50 FPS on all Max but the Environment texture quality and Environment geometry quality to low and MSAA 8X and 1920 by 1080P resolution with MAX Motion Blur Quality
You have to test the setting WORLD CAR LEVEL OF DETAIL on F40 Competizione and compare the back of the car between ultra and high to see the real difference. In the video you have the bad car to compare. PLEASE don't mislead people.
I mean... the gtx 1060 6gb can run this Game in 4k high with 40-50 fps... I don't think an FPS guide is even needed :-P Its kinda ridiculous how even low looks comparatively better then ultra, texture wise...
Hey, so I have this bug or something with my FH5, the text on a car or the license plate has a black background to it, is it because of GPU/CPU drivers?
I have this exact same issue when I use my 2GB R9 380 card. I haven't been able to fix it. The game does complain that the driver is too old when i start it, but it lets you start anyways. I've tried a number of other cads and this is the only card I get this issue with.
I have a suggestion for comparisons where you require the same location/weather/time of day. You could create an event with specific settings and use them after every restarts
Thanks for the suggestion! I will do this in future. I figured I can do this with the events already in the game too, but the cars in those create a higher level of variance than i would like. I've come up with a new benchmarking method as well where I can fairly accurately test any event in the game now and get a decent, consistent benchmark. ALTHOUGH.... i had some benchmakrs I was recording and when the season changed, so did the weather in the event.... sadface.... Very time consuming, but definitely gives a wider array of things i can test compared to the system benchmark.
SSR eats a lot of performance without some profit, changing of environmental texture quality changes almost nothing, Shadow quality has a really big improvement only on Extreme. Excluding Extreme and No-shadows, low-ultra are looks almost same. Reflection have mo matter to be used higher than high settings. Ray tracing is useles af.
I play it 4K HDR extreme with the 3080 and looks wonders. The Xbox Series X environmental being in Extreme or Ultra? Because there's a massive difference there.
How do you only have 1k subs This video was so detailed and so helpful I can't help but appreciate the amount of work that you put in. Thank you, seriously.
Hi Luiz, it does change world cars as well, but it absolutely does change your own car too. The changes are very clear on your own car as you flip through the different levels.
WOW... That must have taken some time! Thank you for that. I truly appreciate it. I was really satisfied with your effort. It's great to see, that the EXTREME setting does have its entitlement.
RTX yes only works in garage/forzavista. it enables the car to self-reflect on its body. you can see the spoiler and the side mirros on the body. you can enable rtx-self-reflections with a mod in the game.
I’ve a 6600xt and like I’m still getting a border around livery decals and badges of cars and there’s a black box behind letters on the license plate, How do I fix this please
Excellent work on this video! Aside from one part that is, your speculation on the Environmental Texture Quality. This was simply a bug as you initially speculated (DF mentioned this too) and not some kind of Xbox upselling thing. Showing the Xbox Series X in your example does no justice to that machine, I doubt you have seen the XSX version of this game which maintains amazing quality even on the 4K/60 FPS "Performance" mode. Sorry, just had to rant about that part even though I am a PC gamer myself and other members of my family use the XSX. This bug was fixed in the recent hotfix. Edit: Had a look at your uploads and see you acknowledged this. Keep it up, and you've got one of the most appealing like/dislike ratios I have ever seen on a gaming video! Should you make a performance guide I will be sure to check it out.
Hey Ryan, thanks for the comment. Yeah my example was a very flippant thing, if i could take it out i would... to be honest i didn't contemplate anywhere near as many people would watch this video as they have... not even close. You are correct, i don't have an xbox to compare, and did no comparison. Beginners mistake.... I will be mindful of such things in the future when making any comparison. I did correct it in the other video, but it still exists in this video unfortuantely. Glad you otherwise enjoyed the video!
Ray tracing actually does have an effect on your car while freeroaming. I tried this on the new Ford Bronco and the lights on your roof are reflected on your hood. I'm pretty sure it works the same way for other cars around you. Ray tracing, though, in this game doesn't make a huge enough difference and is hardly noticeable while driving.
Texture quality in ultra should have been fixed with the patch. I noticed this on my pc as i was playing the game next to my brother in law when he was playing on his xbox. His game alwags looked better even tho mine was on ultra settings
Has anyone elsed noticed how pixelized smoke looks in the distance? You can especially notice it in Street Races, the red smoke in the distance for checkpoints are all pixelated and ugly. My settings are the Ultra Preset.
The thing is that doesnt matter what i change it to it still like like medium to high settings and im running a ryzen 5 5600x with rtx 2070 16gb 3200mhz ram and shit be lookin like shit
Keep making this videos man, they're extremely helpful, also enjoyable and educative as well. The level of quality is top notch and I'm glad I subscribed.
i remember this game looking better before i bought it and was watching videos of it and i think it might be because i have motion blur on low so thanks for that. i was pretty sure there would be minimal differences between high and extreme settings so ive left mine on default high settings, dont feel like restarting the game all afternoon to dial it in.
Great work, thanks so much! The RTX reflections only apply to things from the car being reflected on its surfaces. The reflection of the mirror would for example show up on the side of the car when looking at it from an angle.
Thanks for the info, I looked into this one a little bit more and you are spot on correct. RTX effects aren't really coded heavily in this game. I think it's fine without it to be honest, the performance hit is just too much and the game looks amazing without it.
@@HecticRun There's already a mod to bring RTX into the game world car, but it only applies to your own car, and again it only applies to reflections off the car itself. For example, you'd see the spoiler reflected in the trunk lid, but no RTX reflections of the sky, only screen space. Thanks for the guide, I'm going to try to lower some of these settings from the highest to one below and see if I can hit a target 144 fps without noticing anything being lost, of course with the exception being environmental texture. I'm pretty sure you're correct about ultra being for the advertised quality on the Series X. I play on both, and while the XSX looks great, the detail on a high-end PC is off the charts.
All I wanted was to be able to increase geometry without needing textures on ultra... I just don't have the VRAM, Playground Games!!! The game looks so flat (even on high) without plants and ground tesselation (pebbles, sticks) .
The one thing this game is missing is ray traced global illumination. I’m a big fan of raytracing and it almost pains me when games include “raytracing” in their feature set but only stick to reflections or shadows. Global illumination is by far one of the best raytracing features and when properly implemented in games like dying light 2 it can make any scene look so much more natural. Problem is a lot of devs don’t bother spending resources implementing it because it’s time consuming, and too resource intensive for consoles and other mid range hardware to run smoothly.
I didn't notice this at all and i've been playing with SSAO on most of the time. Maybe it's with certain cards or drivers? I haven't really seen a large amount of graphics glitching, the occasional draw distance oddity, and sometimes my car falls out of the sky into an empty world, but in general it's been pretty good. I should think myself lucky!
@@24LeoTheLion24 Odd, I looked it up and i can see what the bug is now, but i definitely don't have this in my game. SSAO of the car and objects when they're under another shadow like a bridge is the example i saw. I tried to trigger it in game but i just don't see it. 3080rtx @4k with latest nvidia driver here. I'm sure the dev will fix it in good time.
Very nice video, super clear comparisons and the fact that you marked the sections is just perfect. I'm using an RX 6800 on 1080p (240Hz) which is stupid overkill, so everything on maxed out settings works perfectly fine with stupid high framerates. Interestingly enough, the one setting I had to turn all the way down is raytracing. While my GPU does support it and didn't give me any FPS problems in the autoshow, having it enabled would completely freeze my PC for 15-30 seconds at a time VERY often when scrolling through upgrade menus. It made upgrading a car take around 5 times longer than it normally would, and the tiny amount of fidelity that raytracing gives is just not worth that at all. I'm also still having a bug where my GPU usage falls off a cliff when a lot of particles are being thrown up by cars (water, dirt, etc). This results in scenarios where I drop from 100% GPU usage and ~150 FPS to ~60% GPU usage and as low as 35 FPS at times.
The particle issue sounds like it could be a driver issue. I don't see this with my 3080. But i can understand the RTX thing, it's fine to just leave that off, it's just livery stuff and it's not really noticeable but it has the ability to really slow your pc down if your pc struggles with RTX.
First thing i noticed is he doesnt even say where to find them and its hard to bloody find things in the damn game and its worse to find things in the god damn setting
I've got a 3070ti which in 4K can do Ultra no probs getting well above 60 FPS. I have tried Extreme, which does run at 60 FPS but the textures are really buggy, and the reason for that I guess is there's not enough V-Ram. Which is why I hope the the rumours are true about a 16gb 3070ti
This is interesting to me. I'm about to get started on my low end video card testing video for Horzion 5. This game runs with shared memory when the VRAM runs out of memory ok, you don't even notice it. ... but i'm curious to see what happens when the system runs out of memory and starts to use virtual memory... i think this should break the game. Fun days of testing ahead.
I was playing on an gtx 1660ti and the game wasnt that good on my 8K TV => 4 days later my new PC arrived with an rtx 3080 and the game is now a dream which is coming true😍 Cheap upgrade (without scalping) so i made it😊 Ultra is a new definition for high performance gaming😊
