except the fact that nvidia compatible freesync screens will probably go up in price now other than that it is a good thing they only did this too because intel said they would support freesync
@@jamesharnish650 True - and wouldn't G-Sync monitors possibly drop in price because folks are buying compatible freesync monitors instead? Perhaps the price will even out somewhere in the middle.
Nice to see you here, man :) And I totally agree with works as it should. -Crap- FreeSync = crappy sticker that guaranties exactly nothing. There is no minimum requirement, means even 59-60 range can be labled with CrapSync. The sad part is there are quite a few "narrow" range monitors out there. I am "fortunate" to have one of the more expensive CrapSync monitors with the crap experience - Samsung CF971 (paid ~800 euro for it couple of years ago) and a GTX1070. Guess what - everything works great until I try to enable CrapSync. The issues range from flickering to just a black screen depending on the app/game and the mode (full screen/windowed). The funny thing is that black screen (GPU and monitor cannot connect) occurs even when enabling the adaptivesync. Bottom line, AS A CONSUMER, I'd be willing to pay a a bi more just to have the tech certified to provide desired experience.
@@chriswright8074 Well, with this development, there's actually one less reason for me to switch to AMD, now. That said...I'll still wait to see what Navi has to offer before upgrading my GPU.
Navi is going to be significantly better price/performance, but probably not better raw performance. Should come right up to a 1080/RTX 2070 @@turbofanlover
In my opinion Tim is wrong calling monitors with narrow adaptive sync fps range as "perfectly ok" (simply it doesn't adhere to G-Sync standards, and those with the sticker do, so you pay premium to have that covered... It's called capitalism), but on the other hand Nvidia's perquisite that the monitor should have adapt-sync enabled by default is the most stupid requirement i have ever heard. But if manufactures simply change that default option in the menu and then pay Nvidia for the sticker, then they will magically become G-Sync compatible. That is total BS indeed.
@@FactLOCO The Freesync range is part of the spec and if a monitor operates within spec it is indeed running perfectly fine. By mentioning the monitors freesync range and saying weather it will support lfc or not, he did all he had to do.
@@uncleelias And your point is? You are comparing apples with oranges. If you want to compare freesync with something, it should be G-Sync not RTX or DLSS. And just to state the facts, g-sync is better. If you want to compare DLSS with something that should be MSAA, FXAA, SMAA, or TXAA. And guess what, those require "programming" too.
For those buying a monitor in 2021 and wonder if HDMI is supported by now: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 10 series (Pascal) and higher GPUs supports VESA Adaptive-Sync variable refresh rate over the DisplayPort 1.2a standard. NVIDA GeForce GTX 16 series/RTX 20 series (Turing) and higher will support variable refresh rate over HDMI on displays which support this feature over HDMI 2.1.
I bought a G-sync monitor with the same specs as my "old" Freesync display one week before this announcement, the Nvidia panel with the same display/specs? $600... Freesync? $350..
@@lollotrollo3268 A scam? You obviously don't know that G-Sync is adaptive across the ENTIRE refresh rate spectrum (1-144hz+) while FreeSync is only partial (usually 48-144hz). You get what you pay for.
Don't... I'm actually about to attempt to return my freesync monitor, because of massive flickering both on AMD, and now on nVidia. At least if you buy a decent Gsync monitor, you don't have to worry it won't work.
@@neosabre False, the lowest I've seen a G-sync Panel go on it's advertised adaptive refreshrate is 30. @UnderdesertCamelX - Then you didn't do your research or got unlucky, my "old" Freesync display which costs $350 was perfect without any issues what so ever, no flickering or anything. G-sync panel with the SAME TN Panel?(The cheapest 1440p G-sync display I could get) was $600 and does have flickering below 60 hertz. 2 of these displays do the same thing, Predator XB271HU. G-Sync has no guarantee despite Nvidia's claims, oh also the G-sync display had absolutely unacceptable colors on both displays which would have prompted me to make an RMA request except after changing multiple individual color brightness, contrast, and gamma for each Red, Green, and Blue channel to get rid of the total red wash (Black was RED, Grey was RED) it's disgusting but after all of the above values being adjusted individually it looks like my "old" display, the only 2 settings that are the same across all RGB channels is the gamma/brightness on the Red and Green Channel. - Literally everything else is different because like I said I had to manually edit ALL variables to get a decent image.
Emilis Maliukevicius did you buy one? And if so how’s the experience? I have a 2070 super I wanna get the dell s2719dgf it isn’t listed as g sync compatible so that’s why I’m skeptical
@@tinocabral4201 I didint buy a monitor yet, but i am going to buy I searched ur monitor I think its a pretty good choise, yes the g-sync isin't mentioned but u can enable it cuz it has freesync, so you can go from freesync to gsync
@@tinocabral4201 If the monitor has freesync that means u can go gsync too the gsync thing is like a trick so people would buy the gsync monitors wich are overpriced af, there ar tutorials to enable gsync you can go search it up
@@soulsbourne Also the regular Gsync modules are kinda trash, especially on 4K monitors. They are limited to HDMI 1.4 (only 4K 30Hz over HDMI, consoles won't run at 4K) and aren't HDCP 2.2 compliant (no 4K Netflix). Those are pretty big negatives imo. Gsync Ultimate HDR is pretty good, they fix both of those things and add a bunch more, but the monitors are like $2000 and the Gsync modules run hot (requiring a fan in your monitor).
Of course it only work with Pascal or Turing since they are the only ones they sell. Lucky for the surplus of Pascal stock, otherwise I am sure they would advertise this as a Turing "feature".
You can try AOC support, but speaking from experience, they're atrocious. As it's under 12 months, you should be covered by the guarantee from the website/shop you bought it from.
Great analysis Tim. Do you expect Nvidia to stop producing g-sync monitors or at least lower the price premium? I still don't see how this benefited Nvidia in any way.
I suggest you read forums on both Nvidia and AMD on certain monitors, its not made up. Just google freesync flickering and you'll find plenty of results.
Whilst the worst quality Freesync displays will have issues this is NOT an AMD issue this is a sh*t product issue with the brand that made the display. However Nvidia as so so salty that G-Sync did not win the format war as they were hoping to take over the supply for all display processors when G-Sync was a must have feature and get a new revenue stream. REKT!
I agree to this. Ive had cheap freesync monitors & ive found the quality of freesync can vary wildly between manufacturers even in the same price range - this is clearly a sign that its a hardware issue & not software.
@@rawdez_ nowadays they all work fine, but this is because monitors in general have improved. Back when high refresh rate gaming became a thing the monitors were very expensive & it was always a risk buying them coz u never knew what defects there would be with gaming monitors. Now everybody makes a decent monitor Even the $200 Sceptre 4K monitor is amazing picture quality for the money
Yes, Freesync (VESA Adaptive Sync) is an open standard. Pretty much any manufacture can implement it royalty free.... this also means there is no control over the product quality put out by manufacturers in their implementation... where as Gsync is a closed propriety format and engineering.... monitor manufactured can only put out products certified by nVidia and those companies need to buy and license from nVidia to implement it. It's not reallt a problem CAUSED by freesync... it's a problem that exists simply because there are no stringent controls over manufactureres. That being said this is a song that has been performed in computing history time and time again. While a closed form of licensed engineering allows for higher quality products.... the excessive cost broght about by licensing and stringent controls when it is forces to compete with an open standard causes the proprietary technology to die... and that is what is happening with Gsync now. The genie was let out of the bottle as soon as a competing open standard cam on the field... and nothing nVidia can do can put the genie back in that bottle. Gsync is effectively dead.
Same thing killed Betamax back in the day. JVC was much more open with the VHS format hence why it won. And again with DVD. Some companies never learn I guess.
Of course it is. Think about the bfgd tv's coming out. No tv's have display port and many of the 2018 tv's perform on par with gaming monitors now. My samsung NU8000 65 inch does 1440p 120hz HDR with sub 10 MS of real world latency and 4k 60 hz hdr too! But It only has HDMI. And I got it for 1200 bucks, I can't believe they sell monitors for that price that are tiny with worse brightness, color, and blacks.
My Samsung 55"Q8FN does a bunch of resolutions including 1440 120 for and 4k 60fps when in game mode and free sync ultimate. Much much cheaper than the $5k U.S. for the one BFD monitor available in February. Unfortunately no display port or DVI. This really seems like a marketing thing really then caring about gamers and supporting PC gaming. I always try to give NVIDIA the benefit of the doubt though. They could support HDMI if enough noise was made possibly. Would open up a whole nother class of devices to being gsync certified.
I have a graphic card with display port and a monitor with dvi,hdmi and vga port , so will a display port to dvi port adapter work to get that g sync option in Nvidia control panel?
@@aspirants-wingstoyourdream8067 the two dp to HDMI adapters I tried the GPU still identified the connection as HDMI and the menu does not appear. If anyone knows of one that works and enables the menu please post.
Thanks for the video.. I have an AOC Freesync Monitor and I enabled that settings since day one, and it worked fine. IMPORTANT: There’s an indicator you can enable in NVidia Control Panel to make sure it is working while gaming.
In my screen XF270HU it works with a nvidia 1050 ti just fine. In the end it was just marketing from Nvidia to try and squeeze the customers even more with their expensive chip.
i have the xf270hua, so i expect its basically the same model as you, hopefully it will work for me. but i don't need it much in exclusive fullscreen mode, i need it most for fullscreen windowed mode and window mode. 1080ti here.
I've been using the freesync over GSync (GTX 1060 6GB) with an AOC c24g1 at 144hz, capped the fps at 139, and switched on vsync, it really does look so much smoother and targets are easier to follow, but I have noticed that my eyes definitely strain more quickly, although there are no visible flickers or anything weird that I can notice, so other than the quicker eye strain it works like a bomb
Awesome that you're doing this. I hope eventually we'll get a list of people that actually tested all of them. I'm currently in the market for a new display (since my secondary broke down). But because I have no idea what would work or wouldn't work on my 1080, it's kinda messed up. Since I'm not going to throw down €600+ for a new monitor with g-sync. (need minimal 31inch and 1440p res.)
@@steamstories1279 Yes on normal, but it can't be changed as long as adaptive sync is on. Maybe it uses some kind of variable overdrive like gsync monitors do?!
Update: AOC AGON AG322QCX1440p@144hz - works fine except CS GO @ 144hz in some in game situations and the menu - moving to 120hz solved the issue - going test other solutions (but affects both FreeSync - Vega 8 (2200g) and GSYNC 1080ti) AOC Q3279VWF 1440p@75hz - it just works in all tested cases
I can Confirm it works. I have an AOC G2460PF Freesync 144hz Monitor and a GTX 1070. But the Problem for me is, that my monitor has brightness flickering when Freesync was enabled, so i didnt use it when i had an RX 480. I hoped it would have only been the Card, but it turns out now i can enjoy the flickering even on my Nvidia GPU! YAY !
Hmm... have you tried to RMA it? I have the same monitor and don't remember it exhibiting any flickering with freesync on (with the possible exception of GTA V from my recollection). I'm running on an R9 390X if that helps at all.
Thank you, but no i didnt. It only flickers in some games, and i tested freesync alot with gta 5 and other more demanding games. I personally dont see any difference with freesync on/off, but i really like the high refresh rate. So i just live with it 😀
For those wondering, some Acer monitors don't require you to enable FreeSync. It is on by default. For example my Acer ED347CKR has it on by default, the way you know for sure G-SYNC is on is if the Over Drive feature is greyed out. I believe you also need to enable DDC/CI (enabled by default), if you've manually turned this off, please make sure it is on. DDC/CI is a display feature that allows the GPU to control the monitors refresh rate (not just adaptive sync, but the ability to switch say from 60hz to 100hz) and also adjust other parameters like color gamut and brightness if you are using a program that does this thru your GPU.
Great video! I’m currently using G sync with my GTX 1070 and my Asus Strix XG27VQ Freesync monitor, for the last two days every game has worked flawlessly using adaptive sync. I love it!
GTX 1070 asus dual oc GPU with acer KG271c monitor- everything working fine using a display port till now. Tested hitman 2, COD WWII, battlefield 5, farcry 5, Assassin's Creed - Odyssey, Need For Speed Payback. I just need a PC restart to see the menu in nvidia control panel after enabling freesync on monitor. Thanks for the detailed video. Keep up the good work.
I'm getting conflicting messages whether or not adaptive sync work with Maxwell, some say it works with beta drivers. Anyone with both an Adaptive sync / freesync monitor and a maxwell GPU, able to actually test and confirm/deny?
@@mateuscampello My exact standing too. And on of my mates'. Both have well overclocked, 2nd hand sourced 980ti's (well actually he has two in SLI). Neither of us have any closing-in need to upgrade our GPUs, performance wise vs the games we play or the ones on the horizon that look interesting to us. We're both looking to get newer, good value, budget friendly 144hz 1440p monitors, and the value bit is just not happening with (now hardware) G-sync models. I saw people on reddit 5-6 days ago, claim they were actually running it on maxwell cards with beta version of the drivers. I have no way of testing it myself, and never got any reply on reddit.
@@danielstormy3660 We know it _should_ only work on Pascal and Touring, per the announcement. That is no confirmation either way though, if it actually works or not. Including with the beta drivers that came out earlier.
Sucks for me. My tv supports 4k 60, 1080p at 120, 1440p at 120hz and has freesync, but only hdmi Samsung nu8000. Maybe vega 7 will be my only solution.
If you have not bought a monitor yet for your PC maybe you should think of getting one. I generally prefer TVs for large screen, overall immersion but low latency is also good in it's own way
@@AlecRozsa I have his TV, the real world latency is below the frametime of 120hz. Noone can tell a difference it is so fast. Many gaming monitors test much higher in real world latency than they advertise too. at 1440p it's 9ms and 1080p its 6ms on the NU8000.
I have the same screen and my god is it awesome. super bright, amazing color, no latency, and I can game at 40k 60hz or 1440p 120hz. Playing PC gaming with a wireless gaming KB and mouse in a recliner is awesome, I'll never go back to playing at a desk and dealing with the back and neck pain.
I have a Viotek GN32DB Freesync monitor and I have played a few games including BF V and can confirm it GSync working with my monitor with no tearing around the 80-120fps range, I haven't messed with it too much, but it is working.
How is G-Sync superior? Every independent articles I read, all said the same thing: "while g-sync and freesync differ in their implementation both achieve the same thing, with no noticeable difference"
AMD had been supporting VRR over hdmi for a while, if the monitor supports it. So... AMD FTW? Since they do it on both DP and HDMI. It's just limited to few monitors that had a-sync on both ports, currently
@Dex4Sure Nvidia is literally going to lose money on g-sync monitors. Most newer 4k hdr tvs like the samsungs have Freesync on them now, the new console gen are also going to support it since AMD is working closely with both microsoft and sony. Yes it will stay a nice thing for people with loads of money to spend on, but thats just not a good business model.
@@0xBULLgogi Nvidia has everything to gain by enabling vrr on their graphics cards, think about it. Now there's no reason to buy a Radeon card now if you want freesync. They'll probably sell less gsync monitors, but they'll sell more graphics cards. They didn't sell very many gsync monitors anyway.
@@vladdragos5881 The difference is that Freesync monitors have a higher minimum dynamic refresh rate than G-Sync. Usually 48, compared to 30. And Freesync tears below that minimum point, while G-Sync doesn't.
Enable free sync in the monitor's OSD. I've not got that precise monitor, but it should be something like Main Menu -> Color Control -> Viewing Modes -> Gaming-FreeSync™
Jesus, you may be worried that you are losing business via not having the 2060 to test, but, you keep defiant and people keep watching your vids, 6 mins since post loads of views.
We aren't worried about losing views, we were more concerned about Nvidia attempting to manipulate media coverage. If they have axed us you can expect them to come for other technical outlets as well, maybe GN will be next...
I'm happy he commented on it. NVIDIA was very shady on such a point; probably because their has been more adaptive sync support, versus their proprietary, absurdly expensive g-sync implementation. Not surprised they tried to imply that you to only use G-Sync certified monitors that have adaptive sync support, and stooped so low in order to do it. Doesn't surprise me at all. They are no different than Intel in my eyes. Willing to do whatever it takes, no mater how shady, to earn money.
@@djAmored to be fair, that's really most businesses in the modern world. They are all shady in one fashion or another, and will do anything for the almighty cashola.
@@robertp457 something like that but keep in mind thats just what they're claiming happened. Awfully funny everyone got there's a week or two before yet these guys here ( H.U.) a whole week after the fact and haven't received there's yet. Somethings not right with this situation for sure. :( and these are the guys that do some of the most comprehensive gpu benchmarking in the game so you'd think nvidia would want to get them a sample but they sure taking there time about it
I just got 2 Freesync monitors and it kept crashing my computer. I was panicking and couldnt figure out how a monitor could do that. I tried going into my NVIDIA Control Panel to follow these same steps but that G Sync tab no longer exists. Ultimately I just installed the drivers for my new monitors and the problem was resolved. I never knew monitors could be this complicated or needy. I always just thought they were plug and play. Anyways... I'm happy with my monitors now.
Tim, did you consider that FreeSync monitors could get more expensive because Nvidia might charge a license fee for each sold FreeSync monitor which Nvidia approves? It wouldn't be the first time that Nvidia does a scam like this, they did so for SLI, they made every motherboard-company (ASUS, MSI, ASRock, Gigabyte, EVGA) pay a license fee for SLI per sold motherboard which the customer who bought the motherboard had to pay. So it might be bad for AMD-customers that Nvidia now allows FreeSync to be used, depending on whether or not Nvidia charges for a license again. We should also consider this: it might increase the marketschare for Nvidia even more and decrease the market share for AMD even more. This is problematic if we end up with only one company left which makes GPU's. We already pay the price for AMD not having the finances to compete, that is why Nvidia has a monopoly on the high end and that is why Nvidia charges so much for mid-tier cards like the RX 2060 - RX 2080. In short, just calling it a win for gamers seems premature to me. Time will tell.
FreeSync is AMD's property and implementation of Adaptive Sync (A VESA Standard). They will not be able to charge a licensing fee for AMD's technology lmao
@@madr1x you missed the part were they are strait up calling it gsync compatible and completely glossing over the fact that its freesync running in the back. Not trying to be a ass either incase it sounded like it.
Short Answer: Yes, as long as it's a Pascal based GPU and your FreeSync monitor/UHDTV isn't a cheap Chinese knock off. Edit: G-Sync has been a Marketing scam ever since they released it. Just about everyone saw right through it from the very beginning. That being said nVidia GPU's are the only GPU's I have ever owned. I don't own a G-Sync monitor but my new FreeSync Asus ROG Strix XG438Q(43" 120Hz) for $1000 works just fine with my ASUS RTX 2070 Super in A-Sync mode. Keep in mind that 43" cost $200 LESS than a G-Sync Asus ROG Swift PG27UQ(27"-144Hz) panel. I'll gladly take the extra Screen real estate(nearly double) and slightly lower refresh rate for $200(USD) less.
None of these support HDMI. I wish someone would bring this up. Those of us who do not have display port or DVI (the port NVIDIA removed from the new cards) get screwed. We can't even try adaptive sync. Contacted Nvidia because I own a Samsung 55Q8FN and they referred me to purchase a $5000 monitor that isn't even available until February. So they are only supporting 1/3 of adaptive sync. Please mention this in a video.
I don't know about other TVs but if they all don't have any DP ports like yours, it's still an open market for AMD. People were saying that the real reason Nvidia start supporting adaptive sync was those TVs with Freesync. Guess that was wrong.
what also has to be considered, is that there are Methods to up the qualitiy on freesync and thus the new G sync experience. The first is CRU, which allows you to Change the freesync operateing range. There are a few Monitors that somehow Show defects with the new Gsync but work better with a modified Range. F.e. the first AUO Panels with 1440p 144Hz IPS like the Asus PG 279Q. On factory Settings ist 35 - 90Hz and has various defects on the new G sync like flickering. But if you upp the range to 60 to 144 it works just fine. The 2. Option is even better, but you have to be lucky to find Drivers for it. There are custom Drivers out there, that Change your freesync range. Basicly does the same as CRU but is a bit les fiddly after you set it up. Just Google if there are custom Drivers for your monitor. Might work wonders
Other then this comment and then the nVidia reddit - this requirement I have not been able to find anywhere else including articles on how to enable it.
For those who wanted the models name: Acer KG251QF (24" 1080p, 30-144Hz, No flickering, No blanking, LFC) BenQ EL2870U (4K 60Hz, 30-60Hz, NoLFC) Viotek GN24C (24" 1080p, VA, 48-144Hz, LFC) AOC C27G1 (27" 1080p, 48-144Hz) Viotek GN32LD (32" 1440p, 48-144Hz) Philips Momentum 43 (43", 4K, 48-60Hz, HDR) The one that didn't work was Viotek NB24C (AS/FS only through HDMI).
meanwhile i have rtx3060ti and freesync monitor that is not gsync compatible. and i have no problems and no tearing. feels like all of this is just marketing gibberish
G-Sync "compatable" is far less strict in it's certification than AMD is with FreeSync. Also those "issues" that are described are the result of nVidia's poor optimized software for adaptive sync in general. I'm getting a bit sick of people holding up nVidia as being the best with everything, everywhere and hanging on their every word without looking further into things.
My Acer XF270HU worked right away, no setup required, just needed to make sure vsync was disabled in games. I used the freesync test app, and while it doesn't let you activate freesync, turning off vsync and using the line test has it working perfectly.
You know the XF270HU's GUI (The monitor's buttons/menus) shows you the refreshrate when you scroll over to show the display stats. It shows the Resolution and current refreshrate, so if you see the refreshrate moving you know freesync is working. It takes 2 button pushes to get to the menu so I used it all the time to make sure Freesync was working as intended before I got a G-sync monitor for my new 2080 ti - one week before Nvidia made the announcement that they would support my now old freesync display. G-sync for the same specs as the XF270HU? - $600....
@@OGPatriot03 yeah I noticed that when I was playing with Freesync on my old 290x to see how the "hack" performed, which is also why I still had the Freesync test still installed. I like the test app as it lets you see it actually working, not so much the windmill but the left and right moving line as when it's not working, the tearing is clearly visible.
I have the Acer xf270hua, 1440p, 144hz, ips monitor with freesync. I also have the rtx2070 and I can say that freesync works like a charm, although this monitor is not gsync certified. Definitely a good move on nvidia's part.
I don't remember Nvidia saying all freesync monitors are garbage. What I got out of the keynote is that they didn't feel freesync implementation was consistent monitor to monitor.
No because the Nvidia driver is reading the adaptive sync compatibility from the monitor itself it's also checking the destination port type. This is a limit of the nvidia driver which could change in the future.
Not likely, but I don't have to tools to test it for certain, I do know that it works in a different way and it will probably not translate the signal correctly.
God I want adaptive sync on every monitor out there. This entry level gaming monitor Benq XL2411 isn't the fanciest of them monitors, but SO MANY gamers have this. We would really benefit from the smoothness as budget gamers!
Thanks Tim, a great breakdown as usual. I would only argue that it might actually be a bigger deal for AMD, since FreeSync support was an important selling point for their videocards.
my asus mx34vq flickers and is unplayable, despite 40-100hz freesync range. Drivers aren't really ready. I'd have to test on amd, but i doubt it would not work.
I had to rma my mx34vq for flickering issue with Vega 56. The new one is certainly better but some flickering is noticeable in menu / static images. So it could be your monitor.
I am using the same monitor but didn't notice any flickering with adaptive sync for the past 2 days. The adaptive sync range is 48-100 and LFC kicks in below 48 Hz normally.
Dude thank you. I was gonna get a gsync monitor but your one of just a few Videos showing how to use amd FreeSync with a geforce care. Saved me a lot of money bud!
This video is Godsent. I've been bottlenecked by my old monitor for years until a recent upgrade to a freesync monitor, & boy, what a difference. No more screen tearing from higher framerate than refresh rate & no more stuttering from higher refresh rate than framerate.
Tested LG 38UC99 with 2080 Ti. It works very well if paired with V-sync On and 60 FPS lock, the difference in smoothness when framerate drops below 60 is staggering compared to just regular V-sync, whole completely different world. This is what I want VRR for, protecting against negative effects of dipping into 50s and giving me more flexibility. Also I have edited the VRR range heavily from default 52-75 to 35-60, so some flickering during loading screens is possible, also if massive frametime spike happens there can be a flicker too due to going outside of VRR range, but I prefer having wider range for games that are really dipping low regardless of hardware used (any singlethreaded game really, Grim Dawn for example, or all MMOs) and maintaining consistent frame displaying even with slight flicker rather than having all of this V-sync mess. These are extreme situations anyway, regular 50-60 use works as intended. I never really bought this display with VRR in mind in the first place, so it is all just an extra, a great extra and a game changer to a degree. Especially that I've tested the best G-sync ultrawides on the market and they were all 3rd grade gamery garbage panels with tons of bleed/glow and other panel quality issues, so in my case there is no way to get good picture quality + G-sync, and now I kind of have both in one, partially because VRR on this display is not like great, but good enough. I can peacefully wait for OLED/MicroLED desktop displays now.
Yep I've got the same monitor. It even works with Dynamic Super Resolution turned on. Shadow of the Tomb Raider has never looked more awesome. Only wish it supported freesync over HDMI so I could hook it up to my QLED TV.
Just an update, I have the Acer 34" ultrawide freesync monitor "predator" freesync verison and after the driver update I totally noticed a difference and it seems silky smooth. I noticed gitters before. Build is it 8500k w a 1080ti
Happy to see a vid finally drop in the morning, instead of late evening. Mind it's a good idea anyway, since with the current extreme heatwave hitting the Australian east coast, the vid would probably melt as the day wore on. Hopefully everyone sees it before it turns into liquid pixels.
@@GregoryCunningham You're pretty much screwed anyways when not making these products yourself. These things are sold by companies which only goal is to make money. So you either get screwed by potentially faulty adaptive-sync implementation (no matter reputation since certification is a lot more loose), being charged extra for certification (which makes it more likely you get a fully functional product) and be locked into buying a certain brand gpu, or you get no adaptive sync and run into tearing like there's no tomorrow. You can't win without paying something or playing roulette and there's no way to dodge that bullet. Freesync 2 is probably a better product if it works but with the vast majority of monitors out there you may still end up with a bad one (even if reviews are good) and potentially (read; depending on where you live) get no support whatsoever (USA is notorious for shit like that).
@@MLWJ1993 exactly 0 quality control on manufacturers using freesync. Theres no problem with freesync itself but there may as well be, if theres just going to 100s of monitors stating freesync, yet it doesnt work.
Excellent video tim, you seemed particularly in your element and clearly putting effort towards removing not only any bias but anything anyone could perceive such, and while it’s a little sad to me that’s necesary if it keeps people off your back i am all for it. I do have a question though, what is the purpose/value proposition of a discord chatroom for Patreon supporters? I’m not a discord user so I don’t get the draw to begin with really, regardless of the content creator. I see discord as a business utility still I guess. :)
Great video! Thank you very much for the information. This is exactly what I was trying I figure, and you presented the information without any roundabout answers. Thank you!
I am so glad I found your video. Your explanation has certainly helped me out. I am not that much into gaming, but at the same point I do care about what I'm looking at in the things I do.
My MSI Optix G24C 24' VA 1080p 144hz presents brightness flickering if adaptative sync is activated *AND* overdrive is set to normal or extreme *BUT* works totally fine if overdrive is off. By the way, the monitor works completely fine with overdrive activated and adaptative sync deactivated. Hope it's useful for someone :) Edit: For those who may be curious, testing was done on a gtx 1050ti
EVGA 1070 with Viewsonic XG2401 working perfect. Cranked DSR to 4x and SMAA ingame. Ran rise of the tomb raider benchmark with highest settings to be quick and dirty about it. Even when I dipped down into the mid 30fps everything was smooth. Seems LFC is also working with this combo.
Thanks for this in-depth review. I've been on AMD GPUs since 2003. And now I switched to RTX 4090, and I have a lot of headaches making it friendly to ASUS ProArt PA32UCX-K. I never expected to have more compatibility issues with a pro-grade monitor on an NVidia GPU than on AMD (which were working almost flawlessly with all of my monitors). And regarding the FreeSync - I have a screen-tearing issue with RTX 4090+PA32UCX bond. Howewer the NVidia Pendulum demo and AMD FreeSync test show that the frame rates above 40 FPS work more or less OK.
Thanks for the help. I had to dig into the menu on my monitor to toggle over to freesync mode. Have had my monitor for about a year and never noticed that menu. Didn't matter much until now I suppose since I couldn't use the freesync until now with my 1080. After doing that the setup g-sync tab appeared. Played 20 minutes or so of Dark Souls III and didn't notice any issues or the occasional stutter I usually get once and a while. Will need to play longer to test it more, but if it fixes that issue that would be really awesome.
I tested my LG 27GK750F (27 inch, 1080p) freesync monitor and it seemed to work fine. I only tested it for about 10 minutes on Gears of War 4, but no blanking, flickering, etc. It's definitely not a cheap monitor, though
My Asus MG279Q works perfectly. The Standard 35-90Hz Range is flawless. I even get it to work with an extendend Range of 50-144Hz done with CRU. Its really amazing. This is even lower than some people get it to work on AMD Cards
After purchasing a "g-sync compatible" monitor, i think i might return it and go for a proper g-sync monitor instead. The lack of variable overdrive is a pretty severe downside to me considering it's a 240Hz display and the static overdrive while adaptive sync is enabled is obviously tuned for 240Hz which results in horrible overshoot at framerates much lower than that. Coming from a proper g-sync monitor, going for the bootleg "compatible" one only made me appreciate g-sync more.
I have the AOC Q3279WFD8 (1440p, 75hz, freesync), and the gsync thing works great with dx11 and dx12 games like Destiny 2 and Forza Horizon 4, but the moment it hits dx9/10 games, like unreal 3 powered mmo’s, it does the crazy stutter thing. I suspect that netcode update rates and ping may also contribute to the stutter problem, but I’m still reaching into the depths of my game graveyard to test my hypothesis. Update: It’s so inconsistent I would classify this monitor as “Don’t touch it with a 10 foot g-sync pole”. There was one day where everything ran smoothly, and other days where every game experienced stutter. In one instance, the stutter randomly reoccuring murdered the sound for the audio over displayport (sounded like some bitcrushing). The times it doesn’t work can sometimes be solved by rebooting the monitor, other times it persists even when gsync is disabled with the NCP. I still think there is something about DX9/10 that makes this implementation of gsync a flaming hot mess, since it’s a lot worse of a stutter and occurs much more frequently than DX11 or 12 games. Or benchmarks. Unigine heaven absolutely hates gsync in dx9 mode.
I tried following this. I tried a freesync moniter and one of the 12 moniters. An Asus with gsync compatibility and it worked but wasn't nearly as good as gsync and it also seemed to raise the heat output causing throttling and framedrops. As soon as I switched to a Dell gsync moniter I was amazed by the difference. Now I'm not saying the Asus didnt work it just wasn't nearly as good if you want the smoothest experience. If you have a desktop with good cooling you may have a better experience though I'd still stick with a legit gsync moniter unless you don't mind seeing the occasional frame tears or some studders. Though still a relatively smooth experience. Some games are also more than others. It's up to you but I at least reccomended testing a gsync compatible and true gsync with the built in chip to see if your okay with a likely lower end experience. This guy's review is a bit misleading. Maybe I haven't tested enough moniters. But considering I tested one off the list of 12 perfectly compatible displays and it was no where near as smooth and clean as the full gsync... personally I'm gonna follow what I've learned and stick with nvidia gsync moniters for my pc gaming setup. I may hold onto my gsync compatible Asus VG278QR just because it has some great features and works well on some games and could be useful if I ever get an AMD card but I couldn't use it for anything competitive and somehow despite being 1080p. My 1440p gsync dell somehow was able to run the same game at the same framerates at double the resolution so that was fucking weird but means I need to do more testing. And next to the Asus VG278QR it wouldn't stutter at higher temps even at double the res. The temp and fps where the same. I'll comment with further results if I figure out what exactly is going on. It almost seems like the gsync chip is doing more of the work while these gsync compatible models off set the proccessing to the cpu or gpu raising the heat. That's just a guess I'll have to do more comparisons but as of now gsync does seem to be more steady and promising for reliable steady framerates. Ie. I might use it occasionally but I wouldn't use my Asus VG278QR competitively to try to put it simply
Took a look at my monitors and it turned out that both of mine had freesync that I had totally forgotten about! Nice to have both of them up and running with G Sync :D
