George RR Martin on House Baratheon 

Gigachad Bobby B

Bobby b

"START THE DAMN JOUST BEFORE I PISS MYSELF" - The great Bobby B

He and Aegon IV didn't give a fuck lmao I love Bobby B!

And only one war that ended quickly

George RR Martin gets the red ass when people ask him about that. However, I completely agree with you.

What can that show offer us besides the fanservice of seeing these characters? We already know everything that happens, so what can that show really add?

@@calvin8464 lol Same reason why they did House of The Dragon. Prequels...we already know how it ends

@@adamm784 In HotD, we know that their descendants in 200 years will get overthrown. Unless you're already read the books or the wiki on all these characters, you don't know what will happen in HotD.

@@calvin8464 There's literally an episode in GoT that Joffrey tells to Margaery what happens to Rhaenyra XD

Bobby B 😂

OURS IS THE FURY

"GODS I WAS STRONG THEN" -The great Bobby B

I love how he narrates as Bobby B, you can hear his anger and hatred when he's talking about Lyanna's kidnapping and the Rebellion.

@@targaryen7029 yes. He is freaking perfect. Like many of the GoT series castings.

yeah you couled really see the book character in addys performance.

I feel like GRRM wrote it so it's kinda difficult to dislike any of the Baratheons. Robert is just a fucking CHAD, Stannis is the Mannis, Renly's a cool guy, Gendry's cool too

@@ChrisVillagomez Yeah, I think the idea is that he wanted the reader to feel like theirs was the house most befit to rule a kingdom due to the personalities of their men.

@@ChrisVillagomez I despise Renly but I agree that all of the other Baratheons even including Robert’s bastard kids seemed cool at the very least.

@@holypaladin4657 Why don't you like Renly? Just wondering honestly, I can see disliking him from the "he didn't help Ned Stark" and "he didn't have a right to the Iron Throne" but i still think he was a decent guy

You could actually justify if it based on Robert's POV. For him, it started there, and really, demanding Jon Arryn's head and the Stark's dying in King's Landing was all a direct result of Lyanna getting "kidnapped". If this was narrated by some Maester I would agree with you, but it really does feel like it's Robert telling his story.

If you look at the prelude to the rebellion, you see a very clear pattern of alliances forming. So Dorne marries house Targaryen. Dorne also seeks to marry house Lannister. House stark arranges Brandon to marry Catelyn. House Arryn wards Rob and Ned. House stark/Baratheon lines up Lyanna to Robert. So we see Stark, Tully, Arryn and Baratheon in a clear alliance bloc. Even more, at the outset of war Lysa very quickly is married off to Jon Arryn. Massive 4 way alliance of lord paramounts/kingdoms. Who is left? Greyjoy’s. No interest in the iron throne. Dorne. Allied to house Targaryen. Tyrell/Reach, allied to nobody. Honours call to war but doesn’t really go hard for house Targaryen. House Lannister. No alliance nominated.. It’s speculated the 4 way alliance was positioning themselves either to be a defensive bloc, or to depose the king.

@@elyastoohey6621 Sure, it's likely there was some deep planning going on for whatever purpose and these marriage pacts preceding the atrocities in King's Landing were not just coincidences. 100%. It's doubtful however that Robert really understood that though, and again, from his POV, all of this started with Lyanna.

But they were holding off because they thought rhagar would be a better king and was waiting for his ascension but they when lyanna disappeared it was the straw that broke the camel's back

@@spiritwolf5539 Ehhh, maybe. Rickard Karstark was not Ned. Almost certainly more like Brandon. Hoster was a powerful man who put his family first (Why Cat is such a C*nt to everyone in the name of her family). Jon was a very intelligent political man. Robert was a man largely raised by Jon (weird for a lord paramount, as Robert was L.P from a young age after his parents drowned). It should have been Stannis who was fostered. They may have considered Rhaegar, but they were likely going to go with Robert if Rhaegar was not compliant to their wishes (Not just about aerys but they would have pushed leverage over the crown). Robert was the backup. Robert could be manipulated, and was also quite a hero to the people. You have to understand, whilst House Targayrn had lost a lot of prestige, just how much of an upset it was for house Targaryen to lose all power. Up until this point, the only real challenge House Targaryen faced was from other Targaryens/Blackfyres. There were a few minor rebellions, and the Targaryens had to use marriages after they lost their dragons to keep things balanced. SO it has to be assumed RObert's rebellion was in part planned. Aerys sped it up, but it was being set up regardless.

honestly. i cant belive people are actually so dumb they thought it was real

@@RuinnTheGreat They're a lot of mentally ill people out there. Sending an actor death threats is hilarious display of stupidity

@@RuinnTheGreat These guys are the reason why fandoms have such a bad reputation nowadays.

Really works when story telling, especially in fantasy.

Came to say this. I love the skyrim soundtrack so much

I thought I recognised it!

dude, he is telling us that we are pronouncing it wrong.

@@77777Spooky I believe he was making a joke

I know he’s the creator but I still like the way it’s said in the show better

I'm not a native English speaker, so when I talk about the Baratheons with my friends, I don't pronounce it like the show does, so hearing George pronouncing it like this is certainly a relief.

@@VOTE_REFORM_UK yea same it seems like he pronounces everything so different to the show. The way he says Dothraki peeves me off but then again that’s how it’s meant to be said hahah

Either way, Robert is a Targaryen

And That idiot wanted to kill Targaryens

Egg' s daughter, nice.

Rhaelle*

@@waseemchoudhry4465 But he isn't

God's he was strong then

He was the best king in the show

@@VOTE_REFORM_UK Unironically yes

"BOW BEFORE YOUR KING! BOW, YA SHITS!" -The great Bobby B

True he is. I love Bobby B!

True dat

Tommen could have been a good king, especially with Kevan Lannister as hand since he was incredibly smart and would fix Joffrey’s fuck ups. Stannis (book Stannis mainly) would have been a great king too. But Stan died in the show and is still up north in the books. Kev is dead in the books and was blown up in the show so Tommen was fucked no matter what. TLDR: long live Bobby B.

that;s because he wasnt the one trully rulling. It was jon arryn.

@@aegonthedragon7303 tommen was to weak, he wasn't king because of it.

Unless you count all the kings, not just the KL Kings. If that's the case, King Rob was the best, or the King beyond the wall.

It's a behind the scenes from season 1, we don't see Stannis in season 1

There's a fewer joke in here somewhere

Well technically at this point Robert was the one true king, unless you consider Viserys or even Jon Snow.

*bends the knee* The only true king of Westeros.

Never sat on the throne tho

Yeah what an understatement 😂

True, but he's a teddy bear compared to Ramsey Snow/Bolton.

@@rhaenyralikesyoutube6289 I think if Joffery wouldn't been killed so early in his life he would be an equal in cruelty.

@@rhaenyralikesyoutube6289 maybe when it comes to striking fear but as far as sadisticness, it's debatable, they were both absolute monsters.

It is kind of cool, it gives the impression that the world he created is indeed bigger than him. He weaves so many stories in his story that is makes it sound like History.

I think they think of the paternal line of blood, after all, patriarchy rules in Westeros.

It's very accurate to a medieval telling of history.

@@alihandemiral7049 But, they were still the next family to be in the throne line when all the Targaryen were wipeout. They were the one with the most direct line than the other houses.

@@alihandemiral7049 The Lannisters, though, still trace their lineage back to Lann the Clever, and it's been explicitly stated that they do so through the female line.

You can say its more Robert's arrogance and hatred for the house. I could 100% see him throw away this direct line due to how much hes come to hate the Targaryens.

Man Aerys kinda pulled a Hitler there. Declaring war on people he didn't have to.

@@noahmay7708 I mean he was a paranoid lunatic who basically saw enemies in every shadows. I’m not defending him of course, but with Varys whispering in his ear he probably thought he didn’t have a choice. Even if said choice cost him his throne, his son, and his grandchildren.

I mean Arryn’s rebellion doesn’t quite have a ring to it and Robert became king, not Jon Arryn. Technically speaking both of them rebelled so there’s nothing technically incorrect with calling it Robert’s Rebellion even though Arryn was the first to call banners.

Robert rebelled too lol He went along with Jon Arryn, so he rebelled.

History is written by the winners in preference not only to the versions of the losers but also of the runners-up. To put it simply, it's Robert's rebellion because he named it so when he sat on the throne.

Iol

Oh, stannis🤣

Lyanna could have been as bad as cersei

You described over 50%of all man relationships of all time. So women are the problem

@@kungfufemafam9216 Or maybe men are the problem for not controlling ourselves? Or maybe this is just a human problem, and you're a sexist looking for affirmation of his weird beliefs? Yeah, very sure it's the 2nd one.

@@kungfufemafam9216 Elaborate

@@MichaelGaynor93 lyana would've been worse honestly. She was a spoiled , wild woman. Look at rhaenyra in house of the dragon. That's literally the image i have for lyanna. Bobby B was indeed in love with the image of lyanna and never saw her for what she trully was. I feel more sad for him then i feel for her.

I adore House Mormont.

@@cashcurtis You can't beat them.

Hey I’m actually reading a storm of swords currently, I just got to the Davos and Edric Storm meeting

@@DDLLDDLLDDLL i wish it was my 1st time reading the series again lol

@@systemofafox6487 idk I’m kind of having a hard time reading

Dan and Dave kinda forgot about lore

D&D kinda forgot Jaehaerys II (they say "because will be confusing")

Rogar Baratheon had a daughter with Alyssa Velaryon the widow of Aenys I. Targaryen. The Daughter which married Aemon Targaryen the first son of Jaehaerys I.

And many years after that, king Aegon V marry his daughter with the son and heir of Lord Lyonel Baratheon, and from that marriage came the claim of Robert for the Iron Throne, yes

@@josesoria2072 if you can even call it a claim. It is from a female grandma. Really him taking the throne was little more than usurping it, with a very very feeble claim, and some blood of the first Baratheon who was likely a bastard anyway.

Yeah. And I read about the book of Ataturk's life. And I notice, Robert Baretheon is very similar to Atatürk. Hitler had waited for Atatürk to die in order to attack Europe. Because he knew that Atatürk would gather all the Balkan countries, make an alliance with Russia and England, and end the war with his military and courage before it starts. He saw the danger of Hitler and Mussolini in 1933 and had the neighboring states sign the "Balkan Pact" en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkan_Pact Atatürk had warned General McArtur about Hitler in 1932. Just like Robert warned Ned and Cercei about Danerys and the Dothraki. Just like Atatürk, Robert was a charismatic, warlike, witty, romantic, depressive, drinking-loving leader of the people who got bored of being an administrator and giving orders. Atatürk also fought, started a rebellion and won against the imperialist states and the Ottoman Empire that occupied his country. Both characters are very similar. Atatürk have İsmet İnönü, Robert have Ned Stark. :) Ataturk's wife Ms.Latife's character just like Cercie. Atatürk actually love Ms. Fikriye. But Fikriye was dead. Etc... By the way, the Nazi's only hesitated to attack Turkey. They could not occupy. Because of the brave and self-confident new Republic of Turkey under the influence of Atatürk. Ataturk hated Hitler, the Nazis and Mussolini, but Hitler and Mussolini respected him.

Are you Turkish by any chance?

@@fragbomb Why?

@@jmdi2703 it's obvious that you have rose tinted glasses.

@@fragbomb @stefthorman Does one have to be Turkish in order to know Atatürk? You should read; "King of the Mountain" by Arnold M. Ludwig and "The Workshop and the World: What Ten Thinkers Can Teach Us About Science and Authority" by Robert P. Crease ;)

Beneath the gold the bitter steel

@@lordofcastamere9376 it’s Targaryen/Blackfyre words. Golden Company created by Targaryen bastard.

Fire and blood

@@lordofcastamere9376 literally never held the Iron throne and Lost everytime and booby b just hammered his way to the iron throne

@@thetalesofelbek7042 Agora Rivers Aka bittersteel son Aegon the lV unworthy

The only one I want to bent my knee too

omg I was just listening to ambience skyrim music at the very same time I read this, scary how we all seek similar things

It was more that Robert loved Lyanna and her death was the end of that part of him

He didn't though. Cersei expected Robert to forget Lyanna the moment he saw her, and became spiteful when that didn't happen. Robert tried finding some common ground but Cersei refused each time

Me too, sitting back with some *_W I N E !!!_*

Fuck it Do it animation graphic novel style!

Just imagine...the Mad King ranting on the Iron Throne and Jaime Lanister waiting for the right moment to make his move.

I preferred that to House of the Dragon

and watching him craving Rhaegar's chest with his warhammer... I'd be cheering on him so much.

Probably something to do with how women inherit in most of Westerosi society, not to mention I'm not sure how distant she was from the king - Targaryens had a large extended (and interwoven...) family, but they were all princes and princesses (or kings and queens).

@@andromidius robert’s grandmother Rhaelle was the youngest daughter of King Aegon V Targaryen which makes robert and rheagat second cousins

​@@andromidius Grandma Rhaelle was the daughter of Aegon V, who died three yeas prior to Robert. We don't know when Rhaelle herself died, but she'd literally have been the aunt of Aerys, making her pretty close kin to the immediate royal family, so you'd think Robert might cop this. Probably just an oversight, and it's definitely not as cool as the story of Orys Baratheon.

Robert does not strike me as someone who cares to think about being related to a family he swore everlasting hatred against. Orys is a badass warrior who he is probably the spitting image of, and right of conquest pretty much was his claim. Everyone just wanted Aerys out, and Bobby B had the North, Vale, Riverlands, and Stormlands behind him. Jon or Ned could have taken the throne, but they were both sticklers for claims. The justifications come after the rebellion most of the time

@@andromidius Westeros seems to be male preference primogeniture, meaning eldest sons and their their descendants in order of seniority inherit, meaning if their is no "trueborn" heir in the males lines inheritance goes through the female line, barring of course incidences where kings choose to alter the inheritance rules through royal decree. Given how fond the Targaryens were of incest it's not surprising that if he killed all the targaryans (assuming Danny and Viscerys hadn't escaped) that he would actually have the best claim to the throne given how rarely the Targaryens wed outside the family.

Sir-Say

Well lucky for us were getting one House of dragon comes out in a couple days

He wasn't in season 1

"I'm like the dog chasing a car, I wouldn't know what to do if I caught one."

Was this mentioned or talked about at all in the books? What was Robert’s reaction to this? Did Ned ask “where is your brother why did he leave?” anything?

No. Robert didn't give a shit what Stannis was doing. When Robert goes to the north Stannis leave the small council and go to Dragonstone with the Royal Fleet (He was Robert Admirall). But Ned send ravens to Dragobstone calling Stannis, but was never answered

This footage is from season 1. Stannis wasn’t in season 1.

Hail.

All Hail King Renly!

Same bro

why not, also theres a lot of similarities

Literally my first thought. 😂

Its awesome