GOLF: Right Arm Move To Release The Club On Plane - The "Window" To Success 

Appreciate the kind words and support, Rafael!

Thanks for watching my friend!

Thank you!

Jack Muratore thanks for watching. Keep us updated on what you learn from this and how it applies to your game

Thanks for being with us, Jack!

Appreciate that my friend-very kind of you! Its my pleasure...thanks for being here with me!

Thanks, Mark! Ben is great-we were happy to work with him!

Thanks, Kris! Appreciate it...Ben is awesome! We have some more good videos coming shortly with him!

Thanks, Jason! Appreciate that my friend!

Thanks, Bret! Appreciate you my friend! Thanks for being here!

Thanks! Agreed....someone who hooks (and doesnt want to miss left) this can be a HUGE game changer!

Glad to hear it helped

Appreciate it-you as well! Ben is great!

Dave thanks for watching. I was able to work for Mike Bender for a number of years and saw ZJ in action do this very thing

Hope it helps, Dave!

Zach Johnson is exactly who I thought of when I watched Eric's follow through during this drill. I have been fighting being a hooker for years. Can't wait to try this drill!

Excellent, Jairo! Glad to hear that....hope it continue to help!

Love it! Sounds like its perfect for your current pattern!

Appreciate it!

Excellent! Glad to hear it helped, John!

Hope it helps my friend!

Hey James! Thanks for the feedback. Great idea....we wanted to film a video on that (finish) but didn't get it it that day...hopefully next time!

Haha our pleasure! Appreciate you being with us and I hope it helps!

SERIOUSLY MAN! ive never known i was doing this wrong now all of a sudden i can rip my driver for the 1st time ever

Thanks, Marcus! Appreciate the kind words!

Thanks, Tim! Appreciate it...Ben was awesome!

Thanks, Jay! Appreciate you being here...hope it helps!

Excellent-thank you Otto! Happy to hear you're heading in the right direction and appreciate the kind words!

Otto, was this causing you to hook and was it a case of where the longer the club the bigger the problem? Trying to find others who have the same issues as me. Thanks!

@@jimyoung6490 My miss is left for sure. What I found is that I wasn't clearing my lead hip. With no room to lower my shoulder and drive through I tend to stand up (goat humping) get really tall with my handle, and flicky with the club. I've been getting good results working on clearing the lead hip and feeling like my chest and trail shoulder are aimed at my lead foot on the downswing.

E he’s a good example, Justin Rose and CHIII would also be good examples

E And Mr. Fleetwood! Great swing!

Hard to argue with those swings! :)

Our pleasure, Greg! Hope you get it sorted!

Appreciate it! Our pleasure!

Thanks for watching 🤜

Hope you enjoy...Ben is great!

Our pleasure!

Love to hear that, Kevin! Appreciate the kind words...glad it helped!

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You got it my friend!

Excellent! Love to hear that...Ben is great! I'm sure he will love to see this :)

Thanks, Daniel! Ben is great!

Thanks! Make sure you get the face in order beforehand and this can work great!

I appreciate you taking time to watch. Hope it helps

@@pelligolf2395 Fighting hanging on to the club. Big high slices. Any recommendations?

R Oliver probably more a pivot issue then a release issue

Brent Mundie 💥

Smart man, Brent!

Hey Marcel! Yes-as I was taught into a really weak grip, I needed to add a lot of arm rotation to get the face square. Something I'm trying to work out of. Grip firmness doesn't have a ton to do with that imo. Hope that helps

Hey Scott! Thanks for the message and kind words. I would say in that video I was presenting a different style of release. Both can work. IT depends on what your grip style is, club face angle, swing direction, etc. I would have to see a video of your swing to say what would work best for you!

Thanks, man! Hope it helps!

YES! Definitely more advanced but like you say once you learn to get the club path correct from inside and get face square or closed to path enough THEN you can add in these parts really as last step to not OVER curve left

Hey Jim! Glad to hear its helping! Unfortunately there simply are TOO many variables for me to give YOU specific advice for YOUR issues coming up. I would need to know more and see a video of your swing. If you dont get it sorted and can get to Ben for a lesson that would fix this or check out www.cogornogolf.com so I can see your swing and I can give you specific advice there!

I would keep it how you currently have it Keven and if you need more speed/distance find it elsewhere

Appreciate it! Could definitely be...there are several things that could be going on at the setup or backswing or transition that could be preventing this. Best to find a good coach to work with to help identify and work through. I would need to see a video of your swing to say for sure why that's happening....if you don't get it sorted, check out cogornogolf.com so I can see your swing and help there!

Dave Patterson yes just as the trail arm disconnects in the backswing the lead will in the follow through

Great idea, Jason! I will put that on the list for future ideas! Would be fun....I will need to practice some more first :)

David Theobald thanks for watching. I have seen that miss before. Hopefully you can educate that left wrist

Thanks, David! Hope you're moving in the right direction... Strong grip should definitely be much more passive (in general) with release pattern

Eric Cogorno Golf definitely heading the right direction, thanks to your videos. Working my way down from a 7 hdcp - trying get to a 5 in 2020

Hey Scott! Thanks for the message and kind words. I think it would be a completely different conversation. Shallowing the shaft doesnt have much to do with this nor vise versa. In general certainly the more UNDER the right arm is compared to the left during early downswing the more shallow...

Victor Chan thanks for watching. I would say neither a push or pull. It’s an active pressing out (ulnar deviation) of the lead wrist. To limit the curve you need to add the pivot aspect to keep the club moving left. Good observation.

Hey Albert! Thanks for the message and the kind words my friend. I have not really had much experience with that....maybe best to get with someone in person who can help guide.... I would be able to help guide if I could see videos, but still not sure on double jointed elbows part

@@CogornoGolf Thank you sir.

Hey Chris! "Can you clarify a few points in this drill. So when club is at 90 are you hinging right wrist or left to take it back??" Answer: both. I understand what you're looking for but regardless of what you FEEL we are all holding onto the club with 2 hands so you CANNOT hinge one hand without the other....both must hinge....different people feel different hands

Hey! Yes. MORE supination would be good for those who miss too far to the right (for a right handed golfer). Here this video you can see we mentioned this is more for players who miss left and want to eliminate left (for right handed golfer.) There will alway be supination. No matter what. Add MORE if you need the ball to go more left, add LESS if you need it to go less left.

Hey Jae! Of course the KEY words in here are "conscious". Every swing has radial on way back and ulnar on way down. Every one to varying degrees. Cannot get rid of it. BUT....do you need to THINK about it? Of course not.....depending on what you currently do. There will be ulnar, supination and wrist going from flat/flexed toward extension in late downswing for all players (to varying degrees depending on grip, swing direction ,body orientations, etc. I can help much more if I could see your swing on video

Hey Charles! More about the UNHINGE portion here!

Eric I watched the left wrist game changer video, great detail. Going back to the right wrist video for a review. Main area for work is to keep that right wrist from rolling over when I turn the left down. Thanks again for the 2 game changers

Thanks, Scott! Appreciate the kind words....I liked that one myself :)

Hey! Appreciate the kind words-thanks for being here. The reality is I need to SEE a video of you doing what you are describing you are FEELing so I can see whats REALLY going on. Whats your normal shot shape? Do you miss more right or left?

Eric Cogorno Golf thanks for getting back to me! Normal shot shape is baby draw; miss is block right and occasional snap hook.

Understood-thanks for that.. Too many variables that could be causing that unfortunately. Maybe a path issue. check out cogornogolf.com is you don't get it sorted so we can see and help.

Yup! Thats because of his weak grip and more "open" club face. He needs to release "more" to get the face square. Not "right" or "wrong" just a different way. He's an incredible player so clearly its an option!

Fuck Patrick reed

@@mikewigoo2433 Why u gotta be stupid about this? Not the place or the time. We don't care about yur opinion!

Thanks for the message and feedback! I do not think that would be a chicken wing (all depends on how someone defines that) I would say a chicken wing would be the elbows getting FARTHER apart during the impact phase......which is not what is happening. Elbows would be getting closer together (or maintaining distance)....just with right arm below left. Of course at some point in the follow through the right will go above, this is mostly just impact phase.

He did okay ! :)

He also said you couldn’t release to hard or early in the downswing if you do it from the inside

Hey Alex! Yup! IF your new I would suggest finding a good coach to work with to build a basic plan to start. Find the top 1-2 priorities to work on AND find good practice plans to implement. Putt first, chip second, hit balls third. Get the short game bundle and follow these to a T: ericcogornogolf.podia.com

Hey Gary! Thanks for the message. 100% you need to get clubface in order..if you watch any of my previous videos you know I say that a million times :) You for sure need to fix your open clubface before you do ANYTHING else Heres some more info on that ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2nOKt2uclRw.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lr8JV6ShmRI.html

Just remember you can’t square it to early with the left wrist if the ball starts to far right

Thats a good way to say it, Ben!

Thanks, Kurt! Appreciate ya my friend!

Thanks, John!

You certainly need a decent pivot to have any kind of "passive" release style. As well as a clubface that is square to closed to path.

The amount of supination would be dependent on grip style

Excellent!

Thanks for the message Oliver... Yes, that may help. I would also ensure you have a strong enough grip and your wrist conditions (not cupped with left wrist) during backswing and initial downswing Then you can add lead arm supination as needed. I would check them in that order. If I could see your swing I could tell you in 2 seconds...if you cant sort it out check out cogornogolf.com and we will fix that for you

This may help ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-L8xlyijEh-g.html

@@CogornoGolf thanks a lot Eric. I'll definitely give that a shot and I will see about sending you my swing.

Thanks, James! Keep the ARC wide enough.

@@CogornoGolf thanks!

@@mattsmith-bl2bg wtf?

Gary Christianson I’m speaking on my understanding, so I could be wrong... But I see this as a drill to teach the correct impact method and when you go to full swings/full speed, your hands will eventually roll over

@@mrteajay24 Yes it is a drill, but very different than the one he teaches in his perfect release video. So my question still is which one does he now beleive is the best one?

Hey Gary! Good question as I have done a bunch of videos tailored to release and different types. I think the best overall recaps on release would be below. The release style really really really depends on grip and clubface. There are certainly other factors (pivot, swing direction, etc) as well check this video out for my detailed info on release: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8Cg2O8atmYY.html That best way to release video would be more tailored to someone with a weaker grip or more open face. Great question-hope that helps clarify my thoughts!

@@CogornoGolf watched that video. Really helped explain it. Thanks

Hey RA! I'm sure not I understand your question--can you re phrase?

@@CogornoGolf sorry for my bad english 🙏 , i saw your video about compression (shaft lean forward on the impact *delofting) as i can see : on the delivery position , the right elbow keep on bending and let the body bring the club all the way to the front. Mean while in this video : it seems the right elbow is like throwing for the impact (from bend to extension) all the way to the front (like baseball style)... so i am wondering : can i use delofting (lean shaft on impact) Plus throwing motion like in this video... OMG, sorry for my bad english.. i hope you can understand 😭

Yes you can...throw just has to be past impact not before Trail arm still bent at impact ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Nwz6Yrr9SrI.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hJ5scchaRPQ.html

@@CogornoGolf many many thanks for the link🙏☕ , so we must delofting clubs at the impact (when hit the ball) and than do the throwing motion after impact while releasing with supination or flexing motion? OR we can choose and it depend on what kind of swing we choose... Or, actually there is only one mechanism apply to one good swing

Hey unfortunately I don't think we are going to get to the route if your questions here. Im not sure we are on the same page with the terms here or Im not understanding well enough to answer. Consider joining www.cogornogolf.com so you can send in your swings and we can talk more specifics

Hey! Yes...as with all things it all depends on the current players pattern. As you can hear/see in this video we mentioned this is great for players to miss to the LEFT and struggle with hooks/pull hooks. In the supination videos you will notice I mention several times that this is for players who have a club face to open. So each one is good....just for different players. Thats where a good coach comes in which I would recommend for everyone!

@pelligolf might know the answer to that....his info is in description if you want to touch base.

Hey Peter! Not as of right now but will let ya know if anything changes!

Brad Overton I appreciate you taking time to watch. The finish would be a folding at the elbow when the arms get about chest high. Rory iron shots is a good example, Zach Johnson is a good visual as well.

Thanks man!

Thanks, Carl! You can do it my friend! Keep consistent with your practice, give yourself enough feedback and stay the course!

Eric I Never comment but just tested in the garage with my SkyTrak. I hit balls all the time and I can go so far left 25% of the time due to right over left I call it. Well I am amazed just be trying to make that left over right window (that is my only thought) my left shots are barely (compared to usual) left. I have many problems with my swing but #1 is real bad misses left. Thanks to you and BP for hope for less lefts in the new year carl

Love it-glad to hear that! Steps in the right direction!

Touch base with Ben...his info is in description. He can help I'm sure.

It’s called Swing Align. Swingtrainer.com or I also found it on amazon.

You would do the opposite of this then :)

So keep right arm as shown but add a bend in the left arm early?..

Not a perfect process but they do the best they can and working to improve it seems each year!

Find out WHY thats happening and fix that... Could be clubface too open, downswing too steep, no body rotation, etc etc... Find the root...fix that.

Thanks for the feedback!

@@CogornoGolf Moe Norman kept the clubface square for such a long time by using his body to square the clubface from this perfect P6.(club shaft parallel with the ground) redirect.viglink.com/?format=go&jsonp=vglnk_158319628319912&key=202af8f4ce9f2b881bf497a8a3f5add2&libId=k7b66npz0100jaw0000DAmp8bgotv&loc=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.golfwrx.com%2Fdiscussion%2F1815211%2Fhelp-w-over-swing-and-coming-ott&v=1&opt=true&out=https%3A%2F%2Fus.v-cdn.net%2F6024507%2Fuploads%2F582%2F03MW54SON2W6.jpg&ref=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.golfwrx.com%2Fcategories%2Fswing-videos-and-comments&title=Help%20w%2F%20Over%20Swing%20and%20Coming%20OTT%20%E2%80%94%20GolfWRX&txt=ImageUntitled.jpgUploaded%20Mar%202%2C%202020463.78%20KB

Thanks for the feedback!

Hope it helps, Larry :)

Larry, thank you for taking time to watch. Keep us updated and glad it rang true for you

John Hue thank you for watching but I personally would not use that phrase.

Thanks for the feedback my friend! Its much more about what you do with your right arm (which I wouldn't consider a chicken wing) Value yours (and everyones) opinion but I'll disagree on this one.

@@CogornoGolf...👍🙌

Thanks for the feedback!

Yikes, sorry to hear that Ruben! Hope you feel better my friend!

Thanks for the feedback, Louis!

Thanks for the feedback! Sorry about that!

Hey Mikal! Thanks for the feedback! Is it possible that an INTENTION of something happening during the downswing (release) CAN be accomplished BECAUSE that movement would be initiated in your brain much earlier? Say Start of downswing? Cant a thought to do something LATER (downswing) work because it really starts much earlier?

@@CogornoGolf Please dont take me word . Check it out. It is impossible for any human to know where our hands or arms are in space, in real tme during the 1/4 second it takes for the DS. Therefore it is impossible to know when to "release" any body part during that brief time period, let alone fine tune it to square the clubface during 5, 10,000 second for impact. Its not humanly possible. My instructor first researched what is possible for humans to accomplish. ie motor cortex in co ordination with body parts. Notice the time delay when you touch a hot stove element? Pain sensors happen much quicker than normal reaction time. Our eyes dont SEE in real time. There is a tiny time delay from light hitting our retina to signal to the brain ; then image appears in our awareness. After all we are only, human.

Please dont take me word . Check it out. It is impossible for any human to know where our hands or arms are in space, in real tme during the 1/4 second it takes for the DS. Therefore it is impossible to know when to "release" any body part during that brief time period, let alone fine tune it to square the clubface during 5, 10,000 second for impact. Its not humanly possible. My instructor first researched what is possible for humans to accomplish. ie motor cortex in co ordination with body parts. Notice the time delay when you touch a hot stove element? Pain sensors happen much quicker than normal reaction time. Our eyes dont SEE in real time. There is a tiny time delay from light hitting our retina to signal to the brain ; then image appears in our awareness. After all we are only, human.

Thanks again! I'm familiar with the current research in this area....appreciate you looking to help!

@@CogornoGolf cheers

Lol thanks for the feedback!

@@CogornoGolf thank you for the content. I just watched a ton of your videos. Your golf insight is on another level. And you communicating with your viewers is quite refreshing.

Thanks, man! Appreciate you being with us! Trying to find a balance between not talking too much/repeating myself and making sure its clear and easy to understand.....work in progress!

Jean Louis DUBILLON I appreciate you taking time to watch. This system like all fit certain players better.

Thanks for the feedback, Jean! Don't knock it until you try it. You can see this demonstrated but a lot of great ball strikers who have their clubface in order heading into impact!

Hey John! Thank for your feedback and your thoughts on the state of the game and my teaching methods.

John (and Eric) Laying in bed a week post op from back surgery had me reading more comments than usual.... John, Think about the golf swing...what part of it is “natural”? Swinging a club from somewhere behind the ball towards the target is about all that people do correct initially. Beyond that the swing is an ATHLETIC endeavor with hundreds of movements to be coordinated by the body’s 650+ muscles . (It takes 13 muscles just to scribble notes about from these videos on a piece of paper!). Look at the top 1%...the tour guys. They do it with supreme ease, But what else do they do well? Many were good athletes in whatever sport they play/played. Watch Phil flip a football into the stands on 16 @WM. Ricky raced dirt bikes at a high level, Jack played football and basketball, DJ is an athletic freak. Hale Irwin great cornerback at CU. And so on and so on...so to make the “work on simplifying the method “ comment makes no sense when you realize the great golfers do a lot of athletic things great. Athletic ability should, for the rest of us, be labeled athletic LIMITATIONS. Eric DOES have vid all the way down to basic grip and set up. But most viewing his channel are seeking help beyond that. (Though many might do well to look there for what ails their game😉) At my best I was a 5 handicap on the books playing intramural golf in the USAF. No instruction. Never worked on short game. Just played a lot. I also played football and basketball. I was a sprinter in HS. Sports came naturally Now 30 years later I got my son to routinely shoot 80 by age 11. But he plateaued. I was out of golf knowledge to take him to the next level. On his own and with a ton of viewing Eric’s channel (and HOURS from 30 yards and in and on the green) he’s really improving. He now has a coach to every now and then take a look. He’s now playing off a 4 from the men’s tees. He finds these videos priceless. I throw my son in this because he also is ridiculously good shooting a basketball though never played much. We go to the YMCA to workout and just goofing around beats the guys playing horse. He can see and feel shooting a ball like he does driving in a low 58 deg wedge. My lowest knockdown 56 is a moonball in comparison. His ability..my limitation... It’s just not necessary to slam a guy who imo has the best instruction on RU-vid for not teaching a swing that will work for the masses. That’s a good ol’ snake oil salesmen that claims that.. (the closest swing I can think of that might work for many would be Steve Stricker) Eric makes it clear and concise, then more importantly says things like “practice that move 200 times so you get the feel”. Eric, you rock. Thanks for the amazing help you’ve given my son. We’ll be watching your next post!

@@Sdschnaible every single part of the golf swing is natural.. Did anyone teach you how to throw a ball, did anyone teach Homo Sapien how to throw a spear, we would not exist if they did. Look up Ron Sisson for his take on natural ability, we all have it Devon it is wired in our DNA, if golfers were to focus externally ie what the clubhead was doing and not on body parts, then there would be rapid improvement in this great game..

John Bosco throwing a spear is a stretch of a comparison. But to compare...the best spear throwers were naturally more athletic and natural selection determined they survived. If you had mediocre spear throwing skills, maybe you survived but we’re short and of smaller body mass. If you totally sucked at it then you were dinner for a T-RexThe golf swing- some swing it naturally quite well. They likely also do other things quite well as I posted. The lesser gifted individuals do it, well less good to throw in some bad grammar. (And thankfully it doesn’t mean they are weeded out of the gene pool). It does mean they turn to guys like Eric for help. I’d go as far as to say that the golf swing is anything but natural. If you related to throwing a spear, spear throwing was essential for survival. A good golf swing not so much. The understanding from kinesiology and physics standpoint is not intuitive, nor is there a single best way. Just as in throwing a spear, I throw sidearmed like Randy Johnson, you come over the top like Roger Clemens. Both get the job done but the throwing motion is based upon limb length, flexibility, number of fast twitch muscles, etc. There is no one universal swing that focuses on the clubhead. If there is, put it out there in a teachable format andyou would be worth more than Jeff Bezos.

@@Sdschnaible I think you missed the point entirely, the analogies I voted such as throwing a spear are metaphorical to give the example of how the GOLFSWING MOTION is wired in our DNA, so I'd skipping a rock, did anyone teach you to do that by showing you what body parts you needed to use? To answer you in regards to focusing on the clubhead rather than body parts, the new paradigm of teaching is exactly that, it is externally focused rather than internally focused. This form of teaching was tested and proven to be 33 percent more effective, at the end of the day Devon if your happy learning like that then go hard, me I'm improving rapidly by external focus..We are all golfers and we are all looking for a magic bullet, subconsciously whatever you believe will be you panacea..

Thanks for you feedback, Frank!

@@CogornoGolf This is great Eric, don't get me wrong, not trying to be sour, just this move is not for the amateurs who didn't build the right muscle and mind like the pros;

All good man-I have nothing but love for ya!

Thanks for your feedback, Bill! I have heard this feedback before. Not sure I will change that, but will keep it in mind! Hope you are well!

Thanks for your feedback!

I’m confused. When you say “The right arm doesn’t work this way in a proper swing”, are you saying Ben is wrong?

@@Andyvg99 I'm saying it's incorrect, as far as a release is concerned. The right arm extends downwards, into and through the ball. If the right arm were to be held off as explained, 1. You'd slice everything and 2. Contact on an iron would always be thin at best. As far as release goes, the hands don't "turn over" but are used to strike the ball downward, which naturally creates release if you're hitting though the ball.

Champion's Path thank you for taking time to watch. You are correct the right arm will extend eventually but most players who come to my lesson tee need more of this move described. In addition all my players curve the ball, with most playing draws. If you have more questions don’t hesitate to call me directly 410.533.7805

@@pelligolf2395 Thank you for taking the time to reply. I appreciate the effort. If I came across as being contrary, that wasn't my goal. I was disagreeing, and that was all. Thanks again for the reply.