Highly informative for a noobie like me! Have been watching lots of videos on this topic and none are as concise and easy to follow like this one. Just got my go pro 11 and Tiffen ND filters. Can’t wait to try them out!
Wow, when you put the filter on in the field, it blew my mind, thank you for such a clear video that gets to the point! I wonder how this would work for 60fps video for motovlogging??
Thanks. Yes, if you want to use for motovlogging in 60fps and instead of using 1/120 for your shutter speed you use 1/240 you should be able to keep Hypersmooth on and not get jitter and ghosting while still getting some motion blur.
Hey man, I was struggling to find those effects on my gopro specially Blur. Thank you so much for all the explanation and detail in this video, it helped me a lot! Keep up this nice job.
@@GreatDayForAHike I tried using 5K but both my phone and old laptop would reject it. If I were to compress the file would this result in losing Quality?
Mate, came here to see if i need to add to my shopping list the nd filtered and i recived a beautiful lesson about video shooting and you made me understand cinematic shooting better. Thank you so much it was beautifully and simply explain!
OK, we agree on the need for motion blur, we slap on an ND filter, set the frame rate to 30 and the shutter to 60. But on a sunny day we're not likely to be able to use the GoPro screen to know that the exposure of our test clip is "correct". It seems like we'd be more successful by leaving the shutter on Auto so that the video can be exposed correctly. But that kind of depends on having some experience with ND filters and just knowing what number to use for a given amount of outside brightness. Thoughts?
Good thoughts and question you pose here. A few solutions: GoPro Labs offers a QR code with a histogram. This would be useful for this scenario. If one want to strictly adhere to the 180 degree shutter rule this makes it a bit more challenging if in situations where lighting is changing. GoPro Labs also has some QR codes for shutter angle and some other exposure related settings. These could also be useful for this scenario.
@@GreatDayForAHike I've not heard of GoPro Labs--thank you! Yesterday I mounted my GoPro to my handlebars and captured a 15 minute video riding down the parkway. It is very sharp, and to make matters worse I had stabilization turned on. The result is pretty jerky, but this setup would be good for extracting individual frames from the video. With regard to shutter, some of the video was out in direct sun, some was in the shade of heavy trees, etc. In that case I don't know if a single shutter would work well, since it's VERY hard to deal with exposure fluctuations in a video editor like Resolve. But if an auto shutter were to vary a lot then so would the motion blur. It's tricky I guess.
@SteveMartinUSA Absolutely. This video may also help you as I explain how to install the Labs firmware and how to ensure there is no jitter and ghosting if Hypersmooth needs to be left turned on.
This is clear. However, I am not sure if its going to perform well if you are filming a mixture of open scene and inside forest, or a mixture of indoor and outdoor scene. The light difference is going to be much more than a stop. How to tackle such a problem? Increasing the ISO max or allowing for a range of shutter angles?
Great question. I would recommend keeping the shutter set to a static value but allowing for an ISO range of ISO Min 100 and ISO Max 1600. As long as the exposure is good in your bright frames with the ND filter you’re using and not overexposed this will give you some exposure range to work with in the less bright areas.
I only really watch two channels religiously to learn about my GoPro; you explain everything so clearly and at a speed that makes it easy to understand. Thank you for what you do for us novices!
Thank you so much for your videos. The settings that you recommend are great. I have a Gopro Hero 9 and I'm using also the Hohem steady 4 gimbal and the Freewell Circular/PL filters but somehow in my videos is appearing a red glare spot up from the sun, I don't know how to fix this. I'd appreciate it if you could recommend any solution. Thank you.
Thank you for your feedback. So my initial guess is that it’s possible this is from the filter. I’ve tested the circular filters before on the GoPro and then tested these square ones and with the circular I noticed more glare spots than with the square filters. So that would be my initial guess on this. You could also double check and make sure there isn’t a spec of dust or something on the inside side of the filter.
Great explanation. The information was informative. I don’t need nd filters because I’ll be relying on hypersmooth. The two won’t work together. Bummer but makes sense.
Hello sir , when doing motovlog,, how to stabilise footage when hyper smooth turned of in GoPro, I using davanci is it enough doing there ,,? bcz u said to use gimbal but we mounting GoPro into helmet so plz reply me sir how to do,,
Thank you. For sharpness I use Low. I then add some back when editing if I want a bit more sharpness. For color I like to film in Flat or LOG (on the Hero 12) and then grade the footage later on. Natural I also like if I don’t want to grade the footage.
Nice video on using ND filters. Any tips on how to use the ND filters with the GoPro 11 Black mounted outside of the car for a two to three hour filming session?
Hello. Thanks for your video. I have a question. If I want to make a video with very slow motion (60 or 120 fps), would there be any problem using ND filters? Would it achieve a good effect or if I use that amount of fps would it not be worth an ND filter? Do you recommend normal or polarized ND filters? I don't know if in low light conditions the fact of being polarized makes it look even darker .Thanks for your time and greetings from Spain.
Your video tutorial is the only one that explains turning off Hypersmooth. I could not figure out why I got poor results on GP11 using ND32 till I saw that! And the point about using the gimbal except in a vehicle is a point not mentioned by others, good job on this video, well organized and explained clearly
Thank you. The good news is that this principle holds up on any GoPro released after the Hero 4 without the need to re-film. While I did demonstrate this on the Hero 10 Black these same settings will apply on the Hero 11.
Great information. Thanks. Also, can you do before videos of standard GoPro footage with hypersmooth/Vs GoPro with Nd filters and gimbal compared please. Cheers.
good morning, first of all, thank you very much for sharing your nice information. I have a question I have gopro 9 There is a Freewell brand ND filter 16, can I swim with it, can I get water in my cabin or 32 liters in a more beautiful sea, thank you, you are subscribed
Great question. The ND filters do not provide water resistance or waterproofing on the GoPro like the standard GoPro lens does. From what I can tell this is the case with any brand of ND filter for the GoPro. Thank you for your support!
hey man very well explained, I sometimes film on 2.7k and its fixed 60FPS doesnt go below that so I am wondering will I be able to get motion blur on a 60fps footage if I double the shutter?
Is there a way to get motion blur at higher shutter speeds so you can use nd filters with the camera in built stabilization turned on without the jitters that are created when the ss is low- twice frame rate etc)?
I have the gopro10 ever since I got it, I can't record proper videos at night. They look like a $5 dollar camara quality. I seen some videos on how to improve it but I don't see any changes. Any suggestions...
Yes, this is caused by Hypersmooth not working properly due to too slow of a shutter speed at night time. Hypersmooth is a form of electronic image stabilization (EIS) and it won’t work properly without a faster enough shutter speed. In this video I explain this: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-e5Sx3s94syw.htmlsi=53FpuNTqiMGhCdsg In this video I provide my recommended low light settings for the Hero 12 but these settings will apply for the Hero 10 too: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_gUKzdUWJ6Y.htmlsi=MjODC7ij4HqxiSGV Hope this helps you.
Motion blur relates strictly to shutter speed and having a slower shutter speed relative to frame rate. An ND filter is a tool that limits the light reaching your camera’s sensor. This then allows for slowing down the shutter speed to let in more light. Indoors and darker areas generally have low enough lighting that an ND filter is not needed in order to get a slower shutter speed.
how you will recommend to shoot high speed motorbike ride in a wood or something? i want to use the ND filters, but the hyper smooth is also very important to get stability . THANKS
Hi, I recently bought a GoPro hero 11. I want to capture my sister’s wedding which will be held in an indoor venue. Could you kindly advise me on what ND filter I’ll need and the best settings for the GoPro. You help is much appreciated 🙏🏽 thank you.❤️ from 🇬🇧
my issue with the hero 7 is that all my exposure is judged by my eye, there is no actual -ev settings, has that changed from the hero 10? will you tell if its exposed or do you have to just look by eye and see.
@@GreatDayForAHike ah that would make sense, using the quick app would be alot clearer than a tiny screen, I just wish it had the exposure compensation but gotta make the most of what we have. you really showed how nice it looked with the settings dialled it! its worth the extra seconds to do!
Good explanation. I like to use Linear plus Horizon Levelling when shooting videos from the windscreen. Why does this option disappear when Hypersmooth is turned off? Also what do you do when you get too much blur? I find sometimes with driving videos when using ND filters there's just too much blur when I'm travelling at speed.
Both great questions. I believe Hypersmooth may need to remain on in order for Linear+ Horizon Leveling to work properly. If I have too much blur I'll either change the shutter to Auto and/or remove the ND filter and use auto shutter.
I was wondering if an ND filter is a worth-while investment for an older camera? I have a gopro hero 5 and want to make footage look more intense and fast. Buying a new camera isn't really an option due to money however would an ND filter still give me the effect I want despite older equipment? Thanks
If you set shutter to Auto and are in good enough lighting to keep the shutter speed at 1/192 or faster then Hypersmooth being on should work fine. If your shutter speed goes slower than 1/192 you will start to get jitter and ghosting in your footage.
You should be able to see it as an option under the Shutter Speed setting as long as your GoPro is set to 4K24, 5.3K24 or some other resolution and frame rate combo with 24fps as the frame rate.
I think its really a fail that you cannot use ND Filters with GoPro Hypersmooth turned on. I dont want to use a GoPro on a Gimbal, because the GoPro stabilization is really really great. I hope GoPro will fix this in future. But thanks for your explanations & for this video!👍🏻😊
Yes, it would be nice if ND filters could be used with Hypersmooth on. That electronic image stabilization does not handle that cinematic motion blur well at all. I’m hopeful that as GoPro continues to innovate stabilization and potentially the methods of accomplishing this that we could see stabilization that works with ND filters on a future GoPro.
Great. I’m glad you’ve had that work for you. If you don’t use the 180 degree rule and set the shutter speed higher or let it go higher, then, yes, ND8 should be all that is needed. With the 180 degree rule in 24fps and a 1/48 shutter speed ND8 is not enough in bright lighting.
There are some lower cost brands out there but it is worth keeping in mind that some of those brands may not have the same quality and could affect the image being recorded negatively.
@@GreatDayForAHike thank you! Mind quickly searching up the company called “telesin” for their nd filters,bc I’m not sure why their filters a lot cheaper.If not it’s okay thank you anyways😊
Hi, I've read several reviews ND filters tend to distort videos on action cameras 📷 I happen to have the Action 4; have you experienced such a result😮? Thx!!
You can add a similar effect in post production. Simply record video in for example in 1/240s and in post combine 4 images into one. So frames 1,2,3,4 become frame 1, frames 5,6,7,8 become 2 and so on. You'll get a 30 fps video with quasi 1/60s shutter speed without the downside of losing light to an ND filter. You can do this in Blender quite easily. Just make sure to turn your video into an image sequence beforehand for maximum performance in post production. In Blender you can also color correct and motion track your clips to blur faces or remove obscene graffiti.
Yes it does. Check out this video for an in-depth dive into this and how to mitigate it: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-e5Sx3s94syw.htmlsi=uXEezSWqBWpHTrBG
Yes there are ND filters for the Hero 8 as well. They don’t decrease video quality provided they are used properly with the proper settings and as long as the filter is clean and not scratched.
hi i have the hero 10 and scared of getting the nd filters as some of them are difficult to latch on any suggestions for that also i have the zhiyun m2s gimbal how is that as i couldnt find the inkee falcon or hoyem in my region any tips
So, to do this cinematic shooting, with Hypersmooth switched off, we MUST have a mechanical gimbal. Not going to work with 70-80% of my shooting which is using mounts on a bicycle. And carrying/charging a powered-gimbal is one more drain on my charge abilities. Nice intro footage from low on a car, sort of similar to bicycle but... use of a suction mounting point is not going to work on a bicycle. Road vibrations and jolts ARE a major issue. Cinematic shooting is a no-go🤔
ReelSteady is another option to accomplish the needed stabilization in post when editing. I’ll be doing a video on this soon that shows the process. ReelSteady does cost $99 but is a very powerful tool.
I've been searching for this kind of video on ND filters for Gopro for a while now. This is by far the best one out there. I will say being a beginner to videography I find it a little overwhelming trying to apply what I learn as I go out and hike. I wonder if you can do a video of how you organize your gear for your hikes.
Haha yup that is the place I filmed some of this footage. The streets down there have some interesting stones and bricks that makes the footage more interesting to look at.
It looked good, the last time I went down there on the motorcycle it just about rattled my eyes out of socket haha. I wasn't expecting local scenery while researching filters for the hero 10 I just bought, but now I know everything will look nice when I start using it. Nice work, will check out the night lapse video here shortly.
I appreciate your feedback. Yes, those stone streets down there are pretty neat but even in a car you feel many of the stones lol The ND filters are great and I appreciate the cinematic motion blur those offer.
Hello there! I am new to the GoPro world, so this is super helpful. I have a question though... Are the sample videos provided here, specially the one which shows the difference of the beach with or without the ND filter, edited in post? I am running into an issue that my video seems over expose when I shoot on Flat to color grade later. Thank you again for a great video.
Every recommendation I have heard has said to set the EV to -0.5 as the GoPro tends to overexpose. I have done this and have no problems with overexposure. Light quality from skies and bright days is excellent. I am not using Flat colour though.
Great question. I do not believe the manufacturer states these are waterproof but the GoPro is waterproof down to the normal 33 feet with the lens cover off according to GoPro.
This is extremely well done. Clear, concise, and thorough. It also confirmed for me that when dealing with changing lighting conditions (e.g., hiking through woods to an open field), rather than changing the ND filter all the time, it will probably be more convenient to use a stronger filter and set my max ISO above 100. Thanks so much!
I appreciate your feedback! Yes, that would be a good strategy. Another video I created more recently that relates to this and may be useful is this one: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-e5Sx3s94syw.htmlsi=2Xt5hscTTxSET5_1 In the event you run into any jitter or ghosting issues, that video provides some solutions.
The issue with ND filters is when Mountain biking and the camera if bouncing or where there is a lot of camera motion and gimbals are not practical. The greater the ND stops, to achieve 180 degree rule, the worse the stabilization so you must throw out the 180 degree rule and make stability the priority. A key detail that mounting the camera on a vehicle on a paved road does not encapsulate.
I am a MountainBiker and use my GoPro as my POV. its a bumpy sport with jumps ect. What do you think is the best way for me to run my GoPro with the ND filter. I like the idea of showing motion blur, but I also need the footage to be watchable and stable. running a gimble just wont be practical for me.
Shoot, I was looking at using ND filters on the H10 to get rid of blown highlights on sunny days on the prairie. I film with a head mount though, and if I have to have all stabilization off then I don't think it'll work. My research continues.
As long as you have your shutter speed set to 1/240 or higher on the GoPro you can keep Hypersmooth on and still use the ND filter to slow down your shutter speed to have a more appealing look to the footage. In other words you don’t just have to use ND filters for the 180 degree shutter angle and Hypersmooth Off. In this recent video I explain this a bit more in-depth. I did use an ND filter for all of this sample footage while still keeping Hypersmooth on. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BKraBoGjn0I.htmlsi=trveJOZa5PdOkUie
Hi, You should be upfront about loosing image stabilisation (hypersmooth), as this is the main reason for owning a GoPro. If you’re filming anything with movement like walking, skiing etc I would recommend using the GoPro lense with EV comp to -1 or -.05 depending on day brightness. I’ve tested using all ND filters and I find images to have more dynamic range in colours using no ND with Ev comp. Check my channel, all videos are filmed with GoPro Hero 12. Guess which ones are using ND filters and which ones are not..J
Thanks for sharing. Yes, I do mention the need for a gimbal if you are going to use the 180 degree shutter angle as this is important to know. I use the Freewell ND filters and notice no loss of color dynamic range when using those.
I just bought my camera. I am a beginner. I need to turn off the HYPERSMOOTH when I attach a gimbal to the gopro. I learned what to do in the Nd filter, thanks man
For that use case, I recommend testing out 60fps with a shutter speed of 1/240. This will allow you to keep Hypersmooth on while still getting a slower shutter speed from the ND filter. You’ll need to fine tune the exposure after setting the fps to 60, shutter speed to 1/240, and the ISO to 100. I recommend starting with ND8 and seeing if the footage is properly exposed or if it needs ND16. You can then fine tune the ISO to get a balanced exposure.
I like the PL+ND filters. The ones from Freewell that I have tested get great results and that PL can help the image look even better on bright days especially.
I'm still new with videography, but does it mean if you are shooting for a slow motion, u can't technically create a motion blur because everything will just be slow, thus ND filter might not be necessary? In this video i learned, to achieve motion blur -> 24fps & 2x SS, and if you are using gopro then ND filter is necessary to work as the 'sun glassess' but if I want to take slow motion -> 60-120fps & 2x SS, the light won't be that bright anymore, and ND filter isn't necessary please correct me if i'm wrong 😭
and does it mean, I will always need to switch the FPS:SS settings whenever i want to take normal/slow motion video in order to achieve that motion blur
Yes, you understand this correctly. You still may need an ND filter in 60 or 120FPS as the shutter speed of 1/120 or 1/240 will overexposure your video if it is a bright, sunny day but if you’re in the shade then you likely won’t need an ND filter.
If you program in the QR code for the shutter angle and set it to 180 degrees the shutter speed will automatically adjust to whichever frames per second you choose.
New go pro user. Can this gimbal (INKEE Falcon Plus Gimbal Stabilizer) be used with the go pro 12 black? And what software do you use to edit for your go pro footage? I appreciate your channel. It really helps a lot for newbies like me!
Hi, just wanted to say a HUGE thank you for this video! This help has transformed my GoPro videos. I live in the UK and use it for motorcycle helmet cam. It looks so good with the ND8! I think I’ll try an ND 16 too. The motion blur makes the video so great to watch
One thing I have learned in life is a man that knows what he is talking about can plainly and in a simple way explain something. You did all that in about 11 minutes. 🎉🎉 Thanks I am now a subscriber. I’m particularly only interested in car video at this point and don’t want to spend extra money for a gimbal but at least I know off road I will need one. Really good stuff and teaching skills.
I really appreciate your feedback and support! Yes, I’ve been able to get some great videos with the GoPro attached to the car via the suction cup mount. I think the biggest challenge for me was trusting the suction cup mount to stay attached and not fall off. So I sometimes use a bungee cord or ratchet strap to hold the suction cup mount just in case 😂
@@GreatDayForAHike NP appreciate all your hard earned knowledge it takes years and so many mental pushups to become really good at this kind of thing. I use the magnet mount and everything is setup. Really secure and tethered off. Im going to start a channel that will be virtual trips so to speak. I have been doing test runs at different fps. I was interested in your video particularly about ND setup (which I just purchased) to try and resolve my current issue of “real world viewing VS camera FPS. It seems that my footage just looks to fast even at low speeds. Hoping to resolve this issue with the ND. GoPro 11. What a great channel looking forward to digging into your knowledge base
@@GreatDayForAHike yeah I really don’t want to be mounting my A7R3. The picture quality for such a small form factor should be good enough and not a huge loss if something were to happen.
2 quick questions! 1. When you say, "ISO of 100", do you mean the ISO MAX or ISO MIN? 2. I want to shoot in 24FPS, but Instagram doesn't allow 24 FPS footage. How do I fix that? BTW I really like your video. It's super informative! Thank you. :)
Great questions. 1. With ISO if you want to ensure the exposure triangle stays static will all three elements you’ll want to set both the ISO Min and Max to the same value. I recommend 100 if you’re in good lighting. That way you can use the lowest ND filter possible while still properly exposing the image. You don’t have to use both ISO min and max at the same value of course but it’s a best practice when possible. 2. If you shoot in 30FPS for Instagram you would want to set the shutter speed to 1/60 to the follow the 180 degree rule. Thanks for your feedback. Much appreciated!
