Graviteam Tutorial (2019): Artillery | On & Off Map Comprehensive Guide (SPOTTER INFO OUT OF DATE) 

:::Additional Off-Map Artillery Tips::: 1: in deployment phase place your artillery spotter (for off map arty) closer to the enemy for a more zeroed in effect of fire. After you have placed your fire missions move the spotter back to cover, BEFORE exiting the deployment phase. The pin-point accuracy of your fire missions will still work. Conversely, you could place the spotter farther back and then edit your fire missions if you purposely want a lot of dispersion. This is useful for "scheduled support only" type of weapons so you can saturate more ground with rounds since you're "guessing" where they might be. 2: don't waste HE shells when using the "zero in" feature - use Incendiary rounds if possible. Smoke rounds can be highly valuable under the right circumstances. 3: in a campaign take note of what types of artillery support you receive after your request on turn 1. Do the same thing a few times and take note of how many total are available and what goes where (various factors affect this). Does it appear you only receive 3 arty spotters when you requested 5? Prioritize what units should get them, and only reinforce 3 with firesupport!!! This might seem autistic, and it is - but you can and should repeat this until you get what you think is the most desirable fire support for each unit that you have requesting it. For example, scheduled only support only would be ideal for attacking a fortified hill or village (places where YOU KNOW the enemy will be waiting...) while normal off map fire support would be ideal for a unit covering normal terrain. 4: in a campaign place a supply unit right behind the "hottest" spot in your line. They will resupply your on and off map artillery. This is CRITICAL. Even though you will probably only have 1 or 2 supply units, they can basically ensure a massive amount of fire support every turn for the units within their supply radius. I find this particularly useful when on the defense or consolidating my lines/gains in preparing or withstanding enemy counter attacks in the long term... 5: preferably use heavy artillery (15cm or larger) rounds against buildings. While 7.5 to 10.5cm weapons will surely suppress an enemy in a town, they might not bring down buildings and kill that many enemies. 6: by default the enemy AI targets objective key points on the map. Click the flag icon to see these points. Take care in your unit deployment for battle phase. It might be wise to wait to occupy a small village that is also a keypoint. The AI will surely call in artillery on it and well... if its heavy say good bye to your platoon. Take cover elsewhere and move into the village after the enemies initial barrages, if possible. 7: treat your artillery spotters as though they are the most precious units you have, because they are. I rather lose a whole infantry platoon than 1 artillery spotter! Artillery wins battles, infantry mops up. :) ... you can move your spotter into position to just barely call in the fire mission, than immediately pull him back into cover. (assuming radio use)

these tips here are essential and makes the game so much more fun. i finally won a campaign and in one battle i started right away sending shortish arty barrages into areas i thought they may be hiding and i had around 20 enemy soldiers surrender literally 2 minutes into the battle, my very first captives. Thank you for your work, i almost gave up

This level of detail is great, thank you! And very impressive. You really know your stuff, and how to explain it.

Man... bloody arty! 3 days to finally get it! It would probably be three weeks with out your tutorial. Great presentation thanks a bunch!

Awesome job ! Hard to find great tutorials for this game. Thanks a lot!

You do excellent work on your Graviteam tutorials. Just outstanding.

You are back! I was afraid we "lost" you to Steel Division 2... :) "Graviteam Tactics" is so much better! I only have three abos with "alert" on YT and you are one of those three. Love your tutorials and educational play-throughs!

Hands down the best tutorial of the most complex part of Graviteam tactics… Artillery. I learn something new every time I watch it.

I think I said it before, but somebody at graviteam should just add these videos to the game in stead of the "tutorial"

Excellent work and much appreciated. The depth of this simulation is amazing, but unfortunately the documentation is lacking. Your tutorials are the much needed bridge. Thanks!!!

Thank you for this great tutorial. Really helps to understand finally this complex mechanics.

24:15 ... 277 hours in game and this is new to me. Jesus H Christ. I always right clicked (cancelled) the fire mission and gave a new one. BIG YIKES.

Thank you so much for providing clarity to the opaqueness that is Graviteam. Enjoy your Graviteam videos. Still do not understand why documentation is so sparse. Very thankful that talented players like you have taken on the burden of explaining this sim to the community. Still think this game would explode with adequate documentation.

Thanx for your vídeos Warsimmer. Really useful and well done. Congratulations

Amazing work!

Thank you very much for this tutorial. Finally something clear to me!!!!

Wonderful video. Thanks!

Excellent job!

I really appreciate this in-depth video guide, if only my own troops would watch it! I'm running into situations where the spotters inside a platoon for observed fire, even with wire links, will just sit and stare at their observed fire mark and it will sit at 0%. Even left the game running at fast speed for 10 minutes in game. Still 0%. Mortars have fire control set to player. They just sit and do nothing. Sometimes right at the start of the mission the percentage will climb, but then it resets to 0 and sits there.

Hi WarSimmer! Very nice video. Although I am not a beginner, I always find your videos very well crafted and like watching them. I totally agree with the mechanics you showed here. They do work. However, one of them looks more like a bug, as far as I am concerned. In the manual, it is written "Typical layout of target designation transmission consists of an observer connected using wire (or voice) link with the battery commander. Which in turn is connected using wire link with the firing platoon commander, which designates targets for battery guns or mortars using voice." In the case where the battery commander is inside the same unit as the firing platoon commander and the guns/mortars, ie the same box at the bottom of the screen, the setup you showed in the section "Proper Setup" actually uses the firing platoon commanders as observers. So there is a discrepancy with the manual that states that the firing commanders should be the ones shouting orders at the guns and not the battery commander. This leads to a second bug (in my opinion) with the "player controlled observed fire" without communication between the battery commander and the firing platoon commmander. If you use the battery commander as the one who must have eyes on the target, ie the one in front, and leave the firing platoon commanders near the guns in the rear, a wired link is necessary for the guns to shoot on the designated target area. And this seems more logical, considering the mechanics of communication in the game. I have noticed these discrepancies for a long time. I would like to know your opinion on it. Do you think it is a bug? Has anyone else spoken about this thing with you? I have suscribed to your alerts. Keep up the good work! I really appreciate it.

Very good tips, thank you.

Thank you so much for this guide!

excellent video, thank you

Very very good. Thank you.

Great video buddy! I wrote up my comment and noticed that there is a version of it below. Basically, the units/men that you are calling "spotters" for your mortars are actually the individual mortar team commanders. So unless I am totally wrong, you have inverted how it is supposed to work. The way I understand it, the Battery Commander is supposed to be the spotter/observer who relays back the fire mission to the 3 x "firing platoons" / mortar teams via a comms link. By using the firing platoon leaders as the spotters, you would have 3 x sets of targets being relayed back to a single commander who then has to pick one and shout it to 6 different teams who need to make sure they have heard correctly over the din of battle from 100m away. Are you sure you have it the right way around? I may be wrong! :) The technique that you are referring to when adjusting fire is "walking fire" and it is a pretty key technique in the game to hit positions that are near to the limit of your LOS. Adjusting fire is a very standard part of training, and once a mortar team is aware of exactly where their shells are landing, they know what each adjustment to their sights and tube does.

These are fantastic tutorials. I would of probably given up on Mius Front it it wasnt for you. Thank you

Many thanks for this, it helped alot!

The field artilleryman in me cringes everytime I hear "squad" being used to describe groups manning weapons equipment. For reference (this includes mortars) it's: Normal Designation / Field Artillery Designation Squad OR Team / Section (1 section per gun/mortar/launcher) Company / Battery (3-5 pieces per battery) Headquarters Company / Headquarters Battery (no firing elements, comprises the FDC [e.g. "spotters"], Battalion level command and support staff) *Note this is US Army, however MOST armed forces operate under similar structures. Also, typically you would NOT group elements so close to one another. This is to minimize casualties in the event of counter battery fire or direct attack. Typically pieces are placed 100-150 meters apart. This varies depending on situation, terrain, number of pieces, etc.

Hello, ive been reading and watching videos but i have not been able to get manual artillery attack to work. Percentage sometimes goes up a few numbers but goes back to zero.

Nice video 👍

Wow. Thanks for laying the artillery system out clearly and concisely. This will really help. I do have to ask though. What sound pack are you using? It sounds really good and i'd like to get my hands on it.

Thanks a lot for all the previous and also recent guides. Those will be of great help to anyone willing to get into Mius Front. Any recommendations on "light-weight" campaigns / operations for beginners?

Hello, I don't understand how Offboard artillery is given on the operation map, Do I need the guns to be in an adjacent square ? Or is it only in the support screen that the arty support appears and it is abstracted, ie the guns are not represented on map ? thanks

I finally got my on map artillery to work, but as the battle progressed, two enemy tanks made it fairly close to my artillery guns, and their icons at the bottom said defense. I pulled some of my tanks back and eliminated the two enemy tanks, but the icons still said defense for the rest of the battle and my artillery would not re-engage enemy troops it was firing on earlier. Is there any way to solve this issue?

Arch lol. Great stuff though, your graviteam videos are the best on here by far. I finally got into this game and found you shortly thereafter. Really love the content. Thanks. Also, it's arc, like noah's ark. Not arch haha.

Thxs a bunch Mr. WarSimmer thought you forgot about us graviteam grognards ! Good stuff as always, look forward to more in the future! Will you be posting a new campaign soon?

Hey man, first of all thanks for your tutorials, those brought me back into the game after a while and I had to refresh my memory about how to deal with the chain of command when it comes to artillery. I do have one last question, though; in my german campaign, I have infantry platoons that have a single 5 cm mortar as a support weapon. To reliably use them, should I place the commander of that platoon within 100m of the mortar while the company/battalion commanders do the spotting and relay the info via wire link? If that so, am I somewhat obliged to keep the mortar team, in this case, very close to the platoon since the platoon commander would have to relay orders to both the mortar team and the infantry squads? I could test it, just a bit lazy but I got everything else working, it's just this example with the way the germans combine a single mortar with infantry under the same platoon. Have a great one man, thanks for all the information and tips.

Please let me know what F6 does in Graviteam tactics please

Warsimmer can i get your advice on player observed fire for artillery, for mortars it works fine, but with artillery the only spotter that will work is the battery commander, the firing platoon commander unit (3 men) relays the order initially the target goes up to 7% then drops back to zero and stays there... Everything is correct as per your video and other forums. Now if i swap the firing platoon units to have the battery commander as spotter, and the firing platoon commander units next to the guns its works fine. (I used the same range and visual spot for spotters and checked indirect fire is OK so my question is why wont it let me use the firing platoon commanders as spotters? i even tried having the battery commander next to the guns and gave him a simple target and the target area stayed at 0% it works fine with mortars with either commander or firing platoon spotters (just like your example above) I have played 400 hours but this has me stumped...

So for a wire connection no radio squad is needed then?

What are those strange black puddles on the map?

good job on getting in many details about arty here. say is there any chance you could cover infantry vs infantry combat?

I've noticed your UI is slightly different to mine. On the left side with the symbols and writing next to them saying what they are/do but on mine I have to hover the mouse over the symbol to bring up the writing, how to you change it so the writing is always up like yours? Great tutorial by the way I'm having alot of trouble with art still 10 hours in and this has helped massively

When are you gonna update this tutorial to the recent version of Graviteam ?

that commander works as a spotter 9:38 , and cuz he has field of view can relay info to his linked units as well, am I close? trying to learn this guide for me is important cuz I played and showed I lost link and was Lost,also you say these mortars have no spotters 10:55 but you didn't set up this battle not to have their own spotters? but if this is a Campaign why would they not add there own spotters? hope you can understand what I'm trying to say.

24:42 The observed fire is no longer valid, as people now suddenly complained in forum calling it as "cheating" because your spotter can go everywhere without wire connection. An old issue brought back. Now instead of fixing the issue, the devs responded, by making observed fire almost no longer existed as they are going to make sure every players focused on automatic fire. Enjoy not able to use your on map artillery, as now everything is automatic fire. Good luck getting all your battery to respond to your command. Even with wirelinks, half of your gun battery will not respond even if you moved your spotter by fucking 100 metre. I'm gonna ditch all my on map artillery, and probably bring back Napoleonic Wars gunpowder cannon instead. Good luck getting your mortars to do their job in rough and hilly terrains, as their commander are deaf and mute.

Can you update some of this for 2022

Well done tutorial this will help people. Also thanks for the shoutout ! How are your campaigns going ?

Is there a video on the updated spotter mechanics?

For off-map artillery, placing spotters in the editor doesn't seem to do anything - the right hand side page just isn't there anymore. Pre-deployment or otherwise. What's happened?

Hey there @The WarSimmer! How are you? Could you change the title of your video to let people know that some of the info is out of date? And also update the description. People are referencing it on the forums, and while it's a real pity to lose the work you put in, much of the video remains relevant. Just a note to tell people the spotter info has changed, would be great!

wtf is this