The 20 watt was missing something in the upper mids and upper end that the 25 watt has. It was a little dull sounding to me. The 30 watt sounded in between the other two. I liked the Chinese 25 best overall.
For being in a few local classic rock bands and building a 20 watt plexi, I'd probably go with the H. Although there is something nice about the others the H seems to give a broader band of frequency which I'm thinking may make it more versatile if y ou are playing lots of different genres of classic rock. Yip. Thanks for the video.
I have 2 China made celestions in a Avatar 2by12 open back cabinet and after 20 hours of break in they sound great. My 70s Marshall combo had the original greenbacks in it which sounded good but the Chinese sound good just different I bought them from Wgs when they first came out for 50 bucks a piece.I believe the avatar cab came from them. It was used, barely. Mine aren't even greenbacks from China. As long as they sound open and don't sound like a blanket over your amp try them
The first one the G12M 25 sounds best it sounds warmer and less harsh. Why can’t it be as good when it’s made in China?! It’s a big myth that it must be better because it is UK made. Age and how much it’s been played will affect the tone of a speaker.
@@bluesful Obviously something about the materials changed when Celestion moved assembling to China, because the China-made speakers sound very clearly different than the previous UK-made ones. And this applies to all UK vs China Celestion speakers that I've heard. And it isn't a matter of them needing to be broken in, because even China-assembled ones that have been played for many years still sound distinct from the UK-assembled ones. The G12T-75 especially - the China one sounds nothing like the UK one.
Surprisingly, the standard production Chinese G12M-25 took this with ease. It’s my pick, and sounds closest to the original G12M’s in my ‘68 Marshall quad cab.
All depends on the sound and tone you are going for, but overall I'd choose the Heritage M for classic bluesy rock. For metal which I play mostly I like the standard G12T-75 in my top cab and Vintage 30 in the bottom cab.
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How consistent was the close miking? Millimeters can make huge differences in this case. Perhaps a stereo condenser mic setup a bit farther away would reveal more as to how it sounds in a room
Agree, I think this is most of the difference were hearing between g12m and heritage g12m. I don't expect the heritage to be this much brighter, so probably due to mic position.
The MIC are now made in UK again. I quite like the fuller tone of that speaker compared to the Heritage. But does that Heritage need to be broken in? I am not a fan of the Heavy magnet as it is too easy for these to become ear splitting at high volume. I just had a traumatic experience with an Eminence Wizard. My amps are bright enough.
China - Nasally, but not terrible at all, Presently surprised. Looses a little tightness/warmth with distortion. England - Warm. Maybe needs to be broken in though? Can’t tell if it was a guitar tuning issue, but it sounded off on the first clean test. Distortion really rings out nicely. G12H - Bright and missing a little low end. Thanks for the demo!!
The Chinese cone is good for rough, raw, ragged, tones, such as for Punk or Garage Rock. But both English cones delivered cleaner cleans with more resonant chime and clear ringing bell tones. The English M seems better for Cream style rock or heavy blues where weight and girth are essential because the H seemed to lack some bass. Maybe it needs to be broken in? I like both English cones overall more than the Chinese cone, they're more versatile and, um, sweeter sounding. Thanks.
Seems the H is most clear so that's probably what i'm gonna get to replace my Eminence Diezel customs. I'll have 2 D customs and 2 greens, should sound great as long as these dont have too much low mid / bass
I noticed that as well, right off the bat the standard one sounded blanketed, much darker and less revealing. Keep in mind that's not always a bad thing though. I've played through some old Marshall's that were absolutely brutal in the top end.
I beg to differ. In this video I think they all sound good, with slight tonal differences. Perhaps the clarity issues are your own because you are manufactured in England?
@@turrafirmaguitarchannel Well bud, I wouldn't call it rude. Maybe a bit ignorant. But hey, that's just fine because everybody is allowed to have an opinion. They're like assholes. Everybody's got one, and yep they sure do stink sometimes.. Be well.
Maybe because it was the first speaker on test-but to me it sounded the best. There are many similar comparisons, and on all of then MIC was the worst. But in this case it sounded really good, as the maker informed-they were broken in.
The way you've done it is wrong for proper comparisons. To make this much: cut out the ending and the pause that's between the first & second and between the second & third in each music type comparisons. Just run them right together and, changing the picture accordingly.
Toss up between the Heritage G12M & G12H for me. The H sounded a little fizzy at the higher gain settings. The M may work best for as I mostly play Strats & Telecasters. I have 2 Heritage greenbacks in a 2x12 but can't remember which ones they are!! I am sure they are the M. Either way I plan to buy 2 more that are identical and replacing the awful (to my ears) G12T-75's that are in the cabinet now. Thanks for the review.
Nobody really talks about that. Celestion claims the Chinese ones are made exactly the same. Some disagree. In reality, if you want to get nitty gritty, there were many changes in recent times even before manufacturing moved. Some say the metal in the frames became lighter in the 90's, and so was a change in the sound. It's all cork sniffing. Take it in stride.
Nice vid! Very nice comparison. I have both Heritage Greenies and a set of China Greenies and they both sound great. Heritage are smoother but the China have a nice bite and grown. Ya can hear it in these vid clipa as well. Nice job.
Hey, I am running a Peavey Classic, and rarely turn it up even to 5 with the stock Blue Marvel. Thinking I would drop a MIC G12M greenback I found into it. I also just started using a Marshall MC212 with 2 Greenbacks loaded in it as an extension cab. The Marvel does not sound great in the mix with the other two. It’s flaws become pronounced by comparison. I want to keep the sensitivity down so that when I do this, the speaker in the C30 combo is not too much more present than the ones in the extension cab. The MIC Greenback seems to me like it will work, and will be safe even when the extension cab is not hooked up if I keep the volume down where I normally do (as said, I have never turned that amp up above 5 and usually around 3).
You could also trysome higher wattage greenback style speakers from Eminence like The Privat Jack. But I wouldn't recommend the GB128, it'S the worst speaker I ever played.
I wish everyone would boycott EVERYTHING made in China. Everything made there is made from crappy low grade parts. The Chinese made Greenback sounds like a V30 to my ears. All high ice pick crap. I guess its an each to their own preference but just listen to all the records we loved over the years and know that the speakers used were not Chinese crap speakers. Can you imagine how crappy all those highs would sound on the Jimi Hendrix songs. His clean sounds were to die for. G12H all over his records. Angus Young G12M all over AC/DC. If those records dont sound good to you..... I guess its back to each their own tastes. A a mix engineer those highs are what we are always trying to remove with low pass filters. Just food for thought.
All the Made in China Celestion speakers sound like crap. I don't know what are the specs they have to manufacture them, but they achieved their goal: copy legendary sounding speakers and make them sound like shit with expensive price, just because it's written Celection on them.
That's a bullshit generalization. I have some Chinese vintage 30s in my 412 that sounded better than my vintage 30s made in England. The English ones were too fizzy considering the sole fact that v30s are fizzy as is. The Chinese ones are still in my cab while the English ones were sold.
