GTA F1 Car Testing! Speed, Setups, Damage, Tyres - GTA 5 Fact-Finding №31 

NOTE: With LS Summer Special DLC Rockstar fixed wings not working in races. They now affect performance. See updated testing video here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-t-eEoWDKMEs.html *Various Info & Links* How F1 Races Work: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-diAW_l5zafY.html *Vehicle Testing Playlists* Lap Time: ru-vid.com/group/PLx_tHjuVuROCv7VtfMkQs7TvJaMdGITxB Top Speed: ru-vid.com/group/PLx_tHjuVuROBJQHhnhvA2UdqBhbLIV2DG ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Watch Me Website: broughy.com Twitch: twitch.tv/broughy1322 Main Channel: ru-vid.com Second Channel: ru-vid.comsrandombits Follow Me Twitter: twitter.com/broughy1322 Facebook: facebook.com/broughy1322 Instagram: instagram.com/broughy1322 Discord: discord.gg/broughy1322 Support Me RU-vid Membership: ru-vid.com/join Patreon: patreon.com/broughy1322 Donate: streamlabs.com/broughy1322 Merchandise: broughy.com/merch

can we just appreciate the fact that broughy drove in a circle for almost half an hour to get these results lol

even if softs make very little difference, I'm still going to have to pit stop every other lap because of XxX_IlIIIllII_XxX using my car instead of his brakes to slow down in the corners!

Rockstar: *makes a cool new level of customization for racing* Also rockstar: *doesn't allow it in a race* :(

This might be the most complex testing since there are so many variables that can affect the car's performance. Even the smallest change can affect the car significantly. Good stuff tho, very well detailed testing.

The tyres also deplete faster when you spin them which can cause issues when you spin out or when people hit you... Making it so you can't make it until the end of the race without hitting the pits. This also means that if your not a perfectly clean racer, your tires won't last as long.

Dude, finally someone did a proper test with the F1 Cars, the other youtubers ( most of them are just crap). Well done, you compleatly deserve it and hope you get way more Subscribers! Keep on the awesome work you are the best GTA youtuber according to Race Vids/Facts and Tests.

I'm both glad and disappointed that setup doesn't affect the cars in races. Glad because you can customise the car however you want and there won't be any detriment. Disappointed because setups would be very interesting for racing. Finding the absolute best setups for certain tracks, best all-rounders, and finding your personal preference.

Wow, so the Vagner and Krieger really do live up to being street legal F1 cars in GTA lore.

Broughy lays down another Master Class Video

10:51 - Ooh, nice spirograph.

13:30 I think R*'s intention is vice versa. Downforce will always be default values in free roam. But in races, the downforces will vary by different setups. I think it would be really cool if players can change the front and rear spoilers in open wheel races without spending extra money so that players can keep their favourite customisations in free roam. While choosing the best setups for different situations in open wheel races.

Hahaha the effort someone's gone to to change all those values per part ... only to have some moron forget to uncheck the "default downforce" box on the only mode you need it. Classic Rockstar. You couldn't write it. Only, by this point, we could.

Thank you again for the effort, Brough

perfectly simple but effective testing mehtods, anyone else would have over complicated this kinda stuff. im laughing so hard though, classic rockstar to finally make a more uniqie car setup system thats not even used during races

The fact that the setups doesnt affect races is disappointing

15:04 is just so funny to me. Incredible stuff Brough! Thank you.

The real question is whether or not certain wings are less likely to come off, because honestly, that's all that matters if you're gonna be racing in public lobbies.

The problem with having downforce carry over to a race is that rockstar can never win everybody over. If individual setups carry over, the hardcore racers will wet themselves once they can build custom tracks. Vettel fans can build a car he wont spin in, and people will most certainly have multiple cars with differing setups. On the other side of the coin, that makes the entry barrier to F1-style racing even higher than normal (ironically reflecting the situation with actual F1). On top of refining driver skill, you gotta be a good constructor as well, AND have the $$$ to afford it all, lest you end up like Russel and Williams. Will see what Rockstar's final decision is here. In the meantime thanks to you and Gaffa for providing actual number values for the different wing parts for us car nerds to play with.

Finally somebody dives deep enough into tests, its breathtaking!!

i like that you only need to pit for a few seconds to fix the wings and top the tyres up slightly, if you just need to make the tyres last a few laps more

What an absolute bruh moment. Rockstar added these mechanics but didn't use them in a race. Hope that this is a bug so it gets fixed soon.

The problem with allowing custom downforce setups in a race lobby, is that R* has not yet given us the ability to change the setup pre-race for each track. Currently you would have to quit back out to free-roam after each race just to update your setup before starting another circuit with different demands.

Those 18 “dislikes” I see here (so far) , I wonder what issues they would have with this very professional style, easy to understand, very detailed video. Any true racer on GTA would fully appreciate this tutorial, especially knowing, that how much time it must have gone into it.I guess some people are just never happy. This video was simply amazing Broughy 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

Also worth noting that they have a higher top speed when driving on the wooden surface at the side of a track piece :)

I heard a lot of these different aspects of the cars through speculation, so it was very nice to have watched the entire video for solid evidence and conclusions! I'm greatly shocked by how the custom wings don't affect the cars in the races. I almost think I got the 'placebo effect' by that, because I pretty much assumed that I would do way better in races because I had a certain front/rear wing combo that was making me super good at the open wheel races. Now I kinda feel dumb thinking that...but either way, I hope this videos gets shared a lot and is made aware to majority of the community!

My hypothesis is that these cars will have the exact same lap times if they both have the same downforce values so when you do your offical testing, please inlcude the setup you are using. And it would be nice if you include the lap times for both cars with the stock setups, the lowest downforce setups, the highest downforce setups, and whatever setup you found was able to get you quickest around the track. I know that is a lot of testing to do but it would give us a good conclusion on how these cars fair against eachother.

been looking forward to this. absolutely brilliant thorough and dedicated work!

Good god, that must have taken hours to get all the information and make all the different tests. Thank you so much for all the effort you put into your videos.

You REALLY deserve more recognition! This is way more than thorough!

Can we all just appreciate the amount of time this man took to test these vehicles to get results to show us viewers in a 17 minute video.

Thank you so much broughy, I'm 50 in the world on some tracks and I got in my head about different spoilers and front wings. Stressing, that made me slower. Now I can just get gud. Thanks mate and I'll see ya next time!

Thank you for your hard work on this as always, Brough. Really appreciate the amount of work you put into testing.

Really good video, shame about the downforce in open wheel races though

...And to find out how fast it is, we handed it over to our tame racing driver. Some say, his testes have a small gravitational field, and that he can catch fish with his tongue. All we know is, he's called The Stig!!

Amazing testing, so many variables! I bet Brough enjoyed understanding the complexity of F1 cars put into GTA of all games after all this time. This vid deserves views, likes, and the channel deserves many more subscribers! Great work Broughy, as always!

Vintage Broughy, truly. This is the investigative communicative genius I subscribed to.

Props to you Brough, to get all this info out only a week after the cars released is quite something, massive GGs

I was wondering why stock cars were performing the same as custom cars in racing. This answers all my questions. Great video as always Broughy.

Broughy1322 , the benchmark of GTA cars never fails. Well done! Now I want to see you race these cars!

Holy shit broughy, thanks for the testing. Not only did you have to test it you drove it from another part of the map just to use ur testing layout

This shows how acceleration based your track is. I feel like itd be many seconds faster than supers on a true grip track

Watching the solid white line in the tire wear testing was almost therapeutic 😂

That Benetton-like livery on the pr4 looks excellent

and after all this, you had to go and test the Stryder, you poor thing.

Thank you for the help man, i appreciate the time you spent doing these tests👍

Another super job my man! That's why I tune in to watch all of your videos! I hope that u didn't mind me replying to someone about the down force. Told him that I have only tested in free mode, so take what I said with a pinch of salt and a grain of sand. And that my driving skills are nowhere near the level of yours. Keep up the great work! :-)

That's some pretty extensive preliminary testing, Mr Broughy. Thank you! And to Mr Rockstar: please remember to fix your game in addition to pandering to your TakeTwo overlords.

Broughy you r a blessing für the racers. No bullshit, just straight up facts. Thx

This video is a work of art. Wow. Great work, man fingers crossed it's a bug and they fix it so that wings actually matter in races. That would make for such interesting races

I think this is one of the best videos you’ve made. Slick, Professional and very detailed. We know how much work went it as we seen on twitch was surprised though they were not quicker round the test track but I suppose it could be different when you actually can get a proper lap time. Also GG for giving credit to other for their research to

You can tell how much you've enjoyed this. I think the video proves it. It's a great video.

Amazing work man, this is why I come exclusively to you for info on cars in GTA

One of your best fact finding vids to date. Amazing as always broughy

XD i wanna find the rankle that said the kreiger can beat these things around the track he owes me 50$

Thank you appreciate all the hard work and research for my free benefit. It doesn’t go unnoticed. Love and respect.

Thank you Broughy! You're the best for sharing all your work! I appreciate your page.

Some very in-depth F1 testing there indeed, with a lot of useful information provided overall 👍👏 Will look forward to seeing more in future when Rockstar adds the Open Wheel to the Creator and effectively 'unlocks' it for some even more beneficial testing, though here's to hoping they fix/correct that issue with the front/rear downforce actually making a difference in the actual Open Wheel Races, given that surely must've been a mere oversight and not intentional D:

Great job, Broughy, keep it up

Thanks for the video. The waiting was worth it. Great job Broughy, as always! See you on the tracks..

Excellent Work as always

oh boy time to revisit this! does look like we're getting open wheel track editor and two new open wheel cars.

Once again another fully comprehensive masterpiece 😁 that's why I only come here for gta car info keep up the great work Broughy

Now we just need this kind of video for the new open wheel cars

Incredible work, Brough.

That overtake at the end!

Also it sucks they won't let you change tyre type in the pit.

You're an amazing person ;) The only person anyone would ever need for anything GTA Online racing!

Valid information, clear comparisons and covering all aspects once again a great video!

Great video, thanks for the mentions. Some slight other testing I did had the results of hard tyres having a slightly higher top speed than soft tyres - when tyre wear was controlled and couldn't wear further so the tests were like-for-like. It's pretty weird, but I guess Rockstar will iron some things out as they go along.

When you can’t wait for broughly to come out with an f1 video so you buy 5 F1 cars to make Ferrari, Mclaren, Benetton, Lotus, and Williams all with different setups for specific tracks only to find out wings don’t effect handling in the races.

I am pretty sure that using KERS right out of a corner also has an effect on the tyre wear. With the races that I have done so far hard usually can't carry me through a ten laps and those laps are more often than not around or below the one minute mark. The testing method around 12:30 seems a bit iffy to me. At the start of the clips the low downforce car is further behind and catches up to the other one right at the turn in point. At that point both cars have presumably reached their top speed with around 8 mph difference to each other. So the low df car takes a wider line partially due to its higher speed. Also the line you take as target favours a tighter turning radius because it doesn't go through the centre point of turns the cars are doing. You see the first car hitting the line at an angle of maybe 30° where the second one hits at almost 90°, meaning it turned way further. Actually when the high df car hits the line the low df car was just about done doing a 180° turn. One issue I have with the downforce setups though is that the game doesn't tell you that this is a thing. If I didn't know I'd likely set up my car to look nice and that'd be it. Still, I appreciate the effort, there is a lot of good information in this video. It obviously isn't easy to come up with new testing methods, especially when you can't use the creator to help with it.

This is awesome info! I just wish I had known about all of it while F1 races were still double money 😣

Fantastic and Thorough Testing as usual!

Wow talk about placebo effect for me! I could swear my grip was depleting as it got closer to the red. What actually happened was that I was losing faith in the grip and slowing down more than I needed to have. Thanks!

Brilliant video with great info. I was surprised you didn't pick a new track and do some comparison testing, until it was revealed that aero setup makes no difference in a race... Wtf.

This is way more detail than I ever expected r* to put in gta online, but sad that the rally update couldn't get anything near this. :/ Instead we got some pretty good looking rally car lookalikes but they grip dirt like its asphalt and cant accelerate during slides which is like the whole point of awd rally.

Thanks for this, you do such great work that helps a lot of people

I can't believe they intended it. The money making possibilities of people needing several identical Open-wheelers with different setups for different racetracks is just too obvious.

Been waiting for this. Thanks brough

I was waiting for this video for so long! thankyou Broughy!!

It's pretty easy to manage a car that has lost it's wings, you just have to be a little slower through corners, and make sure you're not turning too hard or on the throttle when turning. It's good enough to get back to the pits and repair without losing too much time.

Damaging the car also effects tire wear. I was doing a race with randoms (worst experience of my life ngl) to check out what the open wheel series was like, and my tires were gone in a 6 minute race, presumably because everyone was just driving into eachother. I suspect the tires wear more quickly when driving without a wing?

Okay so question. So the R88 has that option for "No Wing" as the front wing and the races default you back to stock settings right? So like how would the damage on that work since you can't lose a front wing if you don't have one? Or would it default the back wing to stock however you keep no downforce on the front? Or have I missed something here?

Love your channel Broughy, you are No.1. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😃😃😃😃👍

I don't think I'm so sure about the tire wear part. When I hit a hairpin at about 30% compared to near 100% I could tell the difference.

Just so everyone knows, you can use the kers boost as often as you want, it doesn’t have to be completely full

Not even playing the game any more, stil watching your videos tho to keep up, for if I ever return

Nice one Broughy. Thanks for putting the work in to test these. Useful info.

Thanks for this bro... I wish I would've known this earlier this week... I spent so much money on different wing set-up for the races lol

thank you for confirming my theory on the wings. i kinda figures that this attributed to mass having a significant effect with other cars but this video confirmed it

Great testing as always! So in depth! 😀👍 Only thing I'd like to mention is that when you lose your floor, you also lose downforce from that. Don't know for the main shell or smaller nose piece. These cars have so much downforce you can actually drive them upside down in the Braddock Pass tunnel if you get it right! 😄

Cheers as always Broughy for the imformation. :)

Fun fact: In a race, when you run out of grip your tires become flat (bulletproof) they give you a higher speed. Take of the spoilers and you can reach 140+

Soft tires when racing with the usual random riff raff because you'll get rammed on your first corner, lose your spoiler, and have people constantly trying to take you out as you overtake them throughout the race (at least until they rage quit). Lapped someone twice the other day and they actually attempted to ram me off the track both times like they were worried about losing a position. Had to make 4 pits on a 10 lap race just to repair the damage.

Thank you for the review. Fasinating

A great review on the Formula cars. Learn'd alot, thanks Broughy!

The legend that is broughy 👍🏻

I managed to get to 150mph in lsia with the pr4 (digital speedometer) and with kers.

ITS FINALLY HERE