Gun Purchase Delayed / Denied ? Your Address Will Be Sent To Feds & Local LEO - An Explanation 

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A RIGHT DELAYED… IS A RIGHT DENIED!!!!

My ex wife accused me of domestic violence 25 years ago in 1999. In 2024 when I could not buy a personal protection hand gun at 63 years old. They first thing I thought was that I hate that woman that did that to me 25 years ago.

Sounds like they're building the national gun database

I just got a delay on a firearm in Florida. I have a CCW and have purchased many firearms over the years. Yet here I am, paid for the weapons permit and jumped through the hoops, and yet I have been delayed. This is beyond ridiculous and infuriating.

During a trip to a gun store the associates behind the counter commented every background check that day was delayed including himself. And this is more than one store and different days. This should be a class action lawsuit.

Retired US Army Combat Veteran with three combat rotations to Iraq was part of a counterterrorism task force and I get deleyed once in a while as well! God bless America!🇺🇸

Ever since I was vocal about Biden I have been delayed! The delay is from 30 seconds to 7 days.

The simple answer is they want all this information so they know who THEY should be afraid of. 🤔

Can we have NICS checks run on every state and federal elected official before each of their votes? Should not the public know whether they are clean enough to buy and own firearms? Name, office held, proceed, denied and delayed should be enough. No individual with a firearm is potentially more dangerous to the public welfare than an elected official with a vote.

Relative went in an Academy today and asked him why he was in a different city than his residence. He told them it didn’t matter because his residence is in Texas, same as the store. They gave him a ration of blather. Stay the Hell out of Academy when you buy your firearms

I don’t think people realize how huge of an infringement this is. They also don’t realize how often denials and days are issued. I’m a retired police officer and I stopped by academy about 15 years ago to pick up a new backup gun. I’m in a marked patrol car and full uniform. After about 20 minutes I decided on a little.380 and started the paperwork. By this time, there are several people waiting at the gun counter. Then the employee tells me in front of everyone that I was denied. People just stared at me like I was a dirty cop or an impersonator. Talk about feeling humiliated. It took me countless phone calls, letters from a district judge and district attorney, as well as my chief of police, to finally get my name cleared. Turns out, someone who spelled their name the same as me was a convicted felon and they thought it was them trying to buy a gun. Even though they had all my information, and drivers license, they denied me. If it can happen to an officer in uniform, it can happen to you. In my opinion, they need to completely do abolish background checks. Criminals ain’t buying their guns from reputable ffl’s. Every gun control law only affects us good folk.

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Just arrived from the Philippines last night into San Francisco intl airport... Was the only one on the whole plane set aside for additional screening (open your luggage for customs). I went to the B line expecting long snaking lines... It was ONLY me. An officer was watching, already knew who I was (they were communicating with the original customs that told me to go to Line B) and separated me from my traveling group but not far enough that they all heard "Do you know why you were sent here?" I said no. He said "We're you recently denied a firearm?". I said oddly enough yes. He said thats why. Your info is now sent to local law enforcement as well as Customs and Border Patrol. This is to ensure you didn't go abroad to purchase firearms." I said "Thank you for the info. First, if I wanted to illegally purchase I firearm... I wouldn't be doing it in the Philippines where it caught I would spent who knows how long down some dark hole of a crappy prison eating rats. I'd drive down to Oakland and pick one up thru the drive thru McDonalds." Anyway... That's what's going on now. And the reason for the denial FYI is they claimed I had a 273 DV (domestic violence) conviction. INCORRECT. I had 272 NON DV and a 10 year ban which ended in 2010. I have already purchased legally a Glock and only had to deal with a delay. So now the gov is directly LYING forcing me to jump thru hoops.

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Thanks!!

Great information

The British are coming !

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Good video, thanks !

One time I was picking up a lower at my regular FFL, and the gentleman helping me said my check would probably come back as "Delay" because everyone that day had come back "Delay." He suspected that it was due to a lot of checks taking place. It was another record-setting month for NICS checks. Fortunately, mine came back proceed, and we were both surprised, since my checks seem to take A LOT longer than most at that FFL. If 9 of 10 "Deny" statuses are incorrect, how many "Delay" status turn out to be a "Deny" status?

How can an 18 year old walk out of a store with a rifle and a bull of ammo the same day, and a 40 year old with zero criminal record get told to wait? Makes no sense. 😤

Good Stuff.

Great video. Just bought a gun thinking it'd be fine cause I already own two and already bought one of them in the same location who just told me I was denied and I have to appeal.

Any advice on what to do for those who were wrongfully denied?

My delays are indefinite…. I’ve waited 30 days for a purchase with no response. I went to another store… Delayed…. Finally found my local store that goes by Brady law. Getting as much as I can before this shit kicks in.

Great video

I miss the days of just filling out the paper and then leaving the store. interesting we had fewer school shootings then.

Michigan here... have cpl get delayed every time for a long gun but can walk out the door in minutes with pistol and ammo. Its annoying, didn't used to happen.

I was delayed in Oregon, for about two months! I’m thinking of canceling the buy.

Got delayed. It’s been about 3 days and still nothing. Very frustrating

LETS GO SCOTUS...! Im in jersey nd its crazy over here, lots of moves otw though.. great vid ..

Just purchased a ruger Lcp max in Phoenix Arizona and got delayed 😡. It happens every time and I have no criminal record. Really chaps my ass.

This helps 4 years ago I walked in and right out ffl. Week ago I ordered 300 blackout pistol Went to do fed paperwork and got a delay. So I had to leave my purchased firearm there until

Wow that explains it went to a gun show,got delayed,was like i e never had an issue before and haven't had any serious trouble in the past,😡

Got delayed indefinitely in California, 5yrs ago... I moved to Oregon soon after. Got delayed indefinitely here too 4yrs ago... Built my own! Soon I will attempt again and if again delayed, I will increase the private build's caliber dramatically and construct multiple. 2A was created for one purpose and I will perform the one and only "duty" required of us by the founders, when the time comes, and with a smile on my face.

How long can delays be? The FBI website says they scrap the NICS check after 88 days but I’ve heard people say they’re delayed indefinitely

I always get a 30 day delay but right now Im on day 32 and the gun store still hasnt heard back from the DOJ

My state uses NICS. The state denied me twice. Both times I appealed and was granted a "conditional permit", which FFLs are not required. And they don't. This all goes back to an arrest and two charges, which were dismissed in 1973. This is reflected in a NICS document I received from the FBI.

I get delayed every single time I buy a gun. My FFL told me that if someone gets delayed one time, they will be delayed every time

Great piece. I have a “ delayed” on a firearm. I cancelled the buy. I don’t want the firearm.

Great video. I’m out here in California. Been delayed from bass pro shop. My 30 days are up tomorrow. I job requires a live scan so I’m clean. I purchased a Henry lever about 5 months ago with no issues. I purchased ammo about a week ago with no issues. We’ll see if I get the Undetermined dros.

the mental health prohibition is wild, too. A guy in Michigan was involuntarily committed to a mental hospital in 1986 was denied a gun purchase in 2011. 25 fucking years later o.O Literally one really bad day and the subjective opinion of someone and goodbye forever unless you appeal to the courts.

This is truly worrying.. a friend of mine who has purchased a gun previously with no issues, was denied this year when he tried to purchase a new handgun with no explanation. He requested a police background check which showed nothing... I told him about these new laws taking effect in August now he's afraid to even purchase a gun. He doesn't have a carry permit, he literally only owns a PCC which he uses for sport and home defense. I have a carry permit and even I'm worried about this bs law..

Hi, one of my first jobs was at a skeet and trap club-Pistol and Rifle. I was 14 and this was 1985. I used to hunt every year, but haven't for years until this year. I tried to get ammo, after getting my hunting license, and was told I needed a background check. My gun was not registered to my current address, so I switched to black powder and air guns. The switch was not just because of that issue, but more related to the huge price for ammo, parts, and accessories needed. I've found it a cool hobby, especially since my father and Grandfather took me shooting and fishing. My father loved shooting since his Service in the Army. (He was an Interrupter for Army intelligence in Thailand in 1963 and my grandfather hunted to provide meat for the family during the depression). This recent law, which I'm watching you explain now popped up as you explained. I could walk down the street when I was 14 out into the orchards and hills behind home without trouble. Now, I had to take the hunting test again, when I had previously taken it and used it for many years, but the last time before I tried after COVID. I needed to take it again, I passed the test. Now when I tried to get ammo for a gun, I owned it for 40 years with a valid hunting license. I needed to give my address and then no gun showed up. I've moved around a bit, like the Philippines and Thailand as a missionary. In Thailand, I helped with Tsunami relief. Now that I'm home and after my father passed away from Valley Fever and a Stroke (I cared for him till the end in Hospice) I thought of shooting, which I did with my father in my youth. Now everything is so convoluted, the process, prices, and limited places to shoot a gun without having someone call the cops. I've gotten myself a membership at a local gun club (which has been in service since WW2) and started shooting my air rifle and black powder guns. Let me tell you! Even getting ammo and supplies for that has become a pain. I just came across your Video, because I'm going for an interview at a local sporting goods store. I really appreciate your time and info. Hopefully, it will help with the interview, you know understanding these new and convoluted gun laws. I must also state (I said this to a surveyor who called about who I'm voting for, what if anything would I want to have brought before the ballot)

I’m late to the game on this video ! It was suggested to me today. Great video, appreciate the information. I just want to add on to your video with some information. I’m a resident of Washington state where we have universal background checks and mental health checks. Our cwp holders are no longer exemplified from NiX checks as well. Hand guns and semi auto rifles/ pistols are checked with local law enforcement and long guns/shotguns bolt action, lever action and receivers are done with NIX. The part that is being left out is either a NIX check or a local law enforcement check if there is a delay , Nix/LLE has 3 business days to reply with denied or proceed. If they do not the FFL has the discretion to proceed with the sale. Many gun shops will however your larger box stores will not. I am a customer that always gets a delay with NIX . They never respond with a proceed. It’s NEVER HAPPENED. Just a delay and the ffl proceeds with the transaction after (3) business days. If it’s sportsman warehouse or cabelas or a large box store again they will only release the firearm with a proceed. I just wanted to clarify the fact you can only get the firearm with a proceed is not true. Many local government as well as national are trying to close this so called “loophole”. Seems to me NIX needs to get their sht together. I have 0 criminal record but will be delayed everytime!!! I’ve just accepted it, never been denied.

They are 100 percent keeping all nics proceed search records indefinitely. Federal law allows denial records to be kept indefinitely. A passed check, also known as a proceed, is only supposed to be kept by the ATF for 24 hours, and some partial info for 90 days then destroyed. Hold records are supposed to be kept for 90 days unless it gets a proceed or denial; if it's denied it goes to the denial records, proceed or passed it then follows the proceed rules. Here is the official ATF rule. § 25.9 Retention and destruction of records in the system. i) NICS denied transaction records obtained or created in the course of the operation of the system will be retained in the Audit Log for 10 years, after which time they will be transferred to an appropriate FBI-maintained electronic database. iii) In cases of NICS Audit Log records relating to allowed transactions, all identifying information submitted by or on behalf of the transferee will be destroyed within 24 hours after the FFL receives communication of the determination that the transfer may proceed. All other information, except the NTN and date, will be destroyed after not more than 90 days from the date of inquiry. The ATF is not destroying records from passed checks as required by law. I 100 percent know this. I have customers who would always get a hold on a gun purchase every time, I'm talking 20-plus transactions each over 2-3 year periods. They always eventually get proceeded after 1-3 days, they most likely share a name or DOB with a denied buyer. At the start of 2021 these customers got one hold, the first of the year; since that time all purchases have been instant proceeds. The ATF is keeping their proceed purchase records on file past the time allowed by law. When they come in to buy a gun, the system sees their last 5 purchases were proceeded, so it gives a proceed on the current purchase. Before 2021, when the records were destroyed as required by law, the background system didn't see those prior purchase proceeds, because they were destroyed, so the always got a hold.

The last NICS check after the 4473 changed took over an hour. Outrageous. I have been delayed many times sometimes 6-8 months apart with no issues in between. When you are 100 miles from home and get delayed I abort the purchase. Prefer to always buy local on purpose or shipped to a local FFL for NCIS just for that reason. They are using this as A self imposed 3 day waiting period. This never happened three years ago.

I was given a two day hold when I went to purchase Taurus GX 4 had to wait two days had my permit for 30 years never had a problem until recently

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This just another firearm registry plain and simple, I doubt that very many prohibited persons try to legally purchase firearms.

Many common name people get denied in the system then after going thru the hoops your approval is granted. My buddy John Tyler has a common name happens every time he gets a gun.

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First gun buyer, went in and got denied. Clean record and everything such bullshit.

Thank you! This is great information!

I was just cleared in about 15 minutes a few days ago. They had to call the store back with the approval though. I live in Florida so I don't know if that makes a difference. I also do not and have never purchased anything registered with the ATF. I don't have any pistol braces or suppressors or stock piles of ammo and I don't buy a lot of firearms. I have a few but they have been purchased over a 10 yr span. In other words I don't think I'm on anyone's radar.

Ive only been able to buy 1gun where I actually walked in and out the same day all others five days.

I am 20, bout my first AR through an FFL in my town and it got delayed 3 weeks. Bought the rifle on June 3rd, delayed til the 10th, now it’s delayed til the 22nd.

Spent all day today with my regional AFT office. This is legit 100% we will be required to report you and give your address too. And all the other stuff. It's overwhelming

Why TF does local law enforcement need to know about my fire arms purchase. 😖

Just went to my ffl this weekend , was delayed. An hour later I was cleared . For that 9x18 Macarov , not sure if those blow lungs out too 🤔

Cool vid. I think the issue is that the law sort of jumps the gun in treating delays as people who they think are going to turn into denials. It kind of punishes people way before the fact.

During the Middle of the Plandemic, I Bought a Pistol From My LGS and I got a Delay when I Filled out the 4473. mind you I have been Buying and Selling Guns for Fifty Years Never had a Problem, This was on a Thursday or a Friday, The store said if they got a Proceed, I could pick it up that following Monday, needless to say they called and said come pick up your Pistol..Now I wonder if these means I get a Delay every time ? This is more Bullshyte for Gun Buyers.....

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I have purchased several firearms no problem I've only been delayed once for 3 or 4 days a few years ago. I have a Michigan cpl. I just bought a 1911 in December, it's now February and I just got delayed again for my rifle purchase. The only criminal record I have is 1 traffic ticket. hopefully I get the all clear in 3 days you would think if you provide your SSN they could look up your info up faster

Good this is what everyone gets for complying with 4473s in the first place

I got denied today trying to buy a new rifle. I have several firearms that I've purchased legally and I have no criminal record (just a couple speeding tickets). It's very frustrating and I feel my right has been denied. Finding out why I got denied is a very frustrating process too. The background check center has to send me a letter to tell my why I was denied and couldn't tell me on the phone. I filled out an appeal to the denial with the FFL so hopefully I'll be good to go soon. I'm just curious what could have even caused me to be denied. And now I'm hearing this news and I'm even more po'd

98% of applicant get an approval. I am part of the 2% that are delayed.

I have NEVER not been delayed. I normally get a proceed 1-2 days later. This makes me uncomfortable. I will happily sign onto a lawsuit here in Missouri.

I love your website I love all the information that you give I was involved with a deal. I was buying a VRAD from a sporting good store, and I went through the process of answering the questions, and at the end of it, the person took the laptop away from me and said you’re gonna have to come back in 30 days now I have a CPL and I have a problem every time I buy a gun They have to do it seven day background check on me because somebody has my last name so they have to check me out but I guess the point I’m trying to get that is why do they have to be such idiots when something supposedly was wrong they refused to tell you what you did wrong on the paperwork and just tell you to come back in 30 days talk about gun control. I bought many guns. I was a gun dealer for a while. This is insulting and it’s who do we turn to

Several months ago I purchased a handgun with absolutely 0 issue. Even utilized the E-Check, which was convenient and was a good experience for me as a customer. Fast forward to today: I went to buy another handgun and I was delayed. I figured no worry, I haven’t committed any crime, and perhaps it’s the fact that it’s later afternoon is why I had to wait. Come around 2 hours, I left the store with a grave thought in my head (denial for no reason.) Now it’s 1:39 AM next day and I’m seeing this video. With all the control and BS laws in place, it really deters people from wanting to exercise their rights. God help us all as our government is becoming more and more corrupt. Law abiding citizens are the ones who truly pay, and everyday we’re closer to losing our rights.

I refuse to go though Gun shows or gun stores, I go though Private gun sales with no background checks are legal in my state. A: Indiana does not require the registration of firearms. Registration is not required for private transfers or sales, but federal law does require specific forms to be completed when purchasing a firearm from a dealer.

I’m in law enforcement and even I got delayed. Looking forward to hearing what exactly they needed to look into in regards to my background as they’ve already done that thoroughly in the past multiple times.

No middle name can get a delay

I literally just bought a shotgun a week ago. Found a sweet deal on a pistol today and was delayed. Stupid. 24 year Army vet still active and I get a delayed all of the sudden.

Hi. I got 2 felonies from the 90's a drug charge controlled substance receiving and possession. 2nd fraud $5000 working while on SSN disability. I got a pardon in 2012. But didn't give my gun rights back. So been years sure would like my gun rights back. Defend myself and family. No trouble since these things that happened in the 90's. State: Alabama. Let me know.

Private sales are the best 🤙🏽

Just went to get my first gun since I got my ccw and thought it covered me , still had to fill out everything and stood around over an hour just to get a delay again! It’s been every time Iv bought a gun ! Such bs. And in MN you have to do a full background check to even be able to get to the point to do another background check! So i obviously passed . Garbage and unconstitutional

I purchased my first handgun last week and unfortunately got delayed 🙄 ~California 🏝️

I got a delayed phone call from turners yesterday 😔🤧 but I can't pick up my firearm till the 11 of this month but they delayed me early 😮‍💨

Went to Dunhams for Black Friday to snag the G3c for $200. Bought my first firearm (g2c) in 2020. Have never been in trouble , and got a delay. Today is Tuesday and I am still waiting. I'm in Michigan as well.

To me I am like ok then come to my house, inform local law enforce and the FBI, just simply do my background check already. I have nothing that would prohibit me from owning a firearm. I feel like my Background check is just sitting on a dusty shelf somewhere in the NICS office. I don't know what to do anymore.

I pawned a firearm and have always been delayed but this pawn shop when I picked up they called in and did a check and they approved me within 20 minutes, I just did another background for another thing and it's been delayed and I'm sure I'll have to wait the 3 days

Seems like delaying everyone on occasion is a great way to farm everyone's home addresses. Seems after they got busted scanning FFL books they needed a new method.

My first ffl called on the phone for my nics checks and I was delayed the last 4 times. My new ffl uses the computer and they go right through. Don't know if that's a coincidence or what.

i'm in california i got delayed back in december. i waited 10 days then 30 days and nothing so they asked for a live scan i did the livescan. i emiled the doj and they pretty much said i have to wait unitl they get to my paperwork.... almost a year and still waiting.

Weird, I bought several guns in a year. Then I got a delay for my prodigy, I bought a 38 a month later and I was fine. Then I go to buy a 22lr today and I got another delay. No felonies or anything that would put me out to pasture so I am not sure what the deal is….

Good 👍🏻 info. Thanks! They have CCW in Illinois but I won’t get one, I have survived over 60 years without one and I refuse to pay the state to use my God. Given rite according to the Constitution. Period.

This is redundant stuff just for control so they can attempt to start disarm process

This will make all gun owners buy exclusively via private sales, legally or otherwise. We should buy all guns from the streets, so they'll be in responsible hands as opposed to criminal ones. 😂

Is the a process you can do to find out why you received a delay then proceed to see why and how to be sure they have correct information I received a delay twice law abiding citizen

my last 8 transfers in 2 years are all delayed. I think because of that exact reason of another person in the state with the same first, middle, last name as me. a police officer told me about it once in a traffic stop, the other me that is. I've never been arrested, or jailed or convicted of a crime, I have my CCW and I get delayed every time. will this effectively stop me from buying firearms? we'll see I guess.

Hey 2A EDU, in the state of Louisiana if you were delayed and there is no response from the nics check for 72 hours the FFL can sell you the firearm

This is just another part of a multi pronged attack on the 2A, it's meant to have a chilling effect on would be purchasers of firearms.

My transaction was denied today with no reason given. I feel very frustrated 😣

I went to a FFL today to purchase my first firearm, I got a "Delay". The FFL told me to come back in 4 days if I haven't heard from them and I can pick up my pistol. I have never been in trouble with the law ,, I also have my hazmat endorsement on my CDL which required a background check with the FBI that I passed. It really does suck to be forced to wait

I just got denied came home and watched this video and was salty clean record and all

Also are you talking about rifles background check as in Maryland you can’t get your hand gun but after 7 days waiting period. I see someone mentioned that they got a “delay” answer while in the shop. Here in Maryland you could only get that if you wait while buying a rifle**