Mike and Jay are back at Mr. Plinkett's house and take advantage of his new 125 inch TV to watch the biggest movie event of two weeks ago, Wonder Woman 1984! The movie that eeeeveryone loves!
The sudden reveal that her dad taught her an invisibility spell is extra funny when you remember that 90% of that first movie is her sneaking into places
@@DustinShaneYounce That’s her classic origin, but in more modern retellings that’s just a lie told by her mother to cover up for having broken Themyscira’s laws and banged Zeus
@@jamescollinge5043 Oh, that was in the first movie right? Haven't seen it since it came out and I remember her talking about her being made of clay, so I guess she was lied to? Then when did she meet her father to teach her the invisibility thing?
Those drunk girl pep talks can be really inspiring, you know! I can't tell you how many times they've inspired me to stop drunk crying and get out of the middle of the street!
I saw it with my older brother on Xmas Day, and all I could say when it was over was, "Those superhero movies sure demand an awful lot of suspension of disbelief, don't they?"
@Boy Pussoir And in this scene, you'll notice that the truck she throws the creep into is green. Now, you might think that it's just a green truck, but actually, it symbolizes Cheetahs inability to... *15 minutes of rambling* ...and that's why it's the best film I've ever seen. Truly powerful. Stanley Kubrick would be proud. - Vague samey film review channel
Ohhhhhh...they were cheating by wishing and the antagonist turned into a cheetah. Wow 😳 🤯 I thought this movie was pure garbage but now I realize it’s DEEP. ...very deep.
also I am the only person on earth who benefits from renouncing my wish but it is important that I demand that other people renounce theirs to save humanity
It feels pretty disingenuous to have someone with immortality and a bunch of other superpowers tell normal people that they don't need their wishes to be happy.
Speaking of "non-selfish wishes"...sometime in 1984, a young Bruce Wayne wishes his parents were alive, then a few minutes later has to wish them dead once more. This will never come up or be mentioned again.
I saw some edit where the song that played during the scene of the Wayne murder was also playing during WW’s “truth” speech in the bunker. Whether or not that sound played in WW84 I don’t know, but it got me thinking that maybe that speech was directed at Bruce. Might be too clever for that movie tho
If he did they would have came back in other people's body like Steve. Batman wouldn't take someone else's life away so that he could have his parents, he'd revoke his wish.
@@oranmcclintock302 it was so weird when that started playing. I actually really like that track but it makes no sense in the context of the movie, it'd be like if Han Solo's theme showed up during the climactic lightsaber fight in Return of the Jedi.
The lack of 80s music blew my mind. It actual took me out of the movie. I was actively thinking of 80s songs that would fit the scenes, because there were none!
Just because none of you lot have heard of Welcome to the Pleasuredome doesn’t mean it wasn’t an authentic 1980s song. Made a change from hearing one of the same ten songs of the era.
yeah it's like on the opposite spectrum of captain marvel where that film hammers you that it's set in the 90s this one it barely looks like it's in the 80s.
@@tronali5703 The thing with having a homage is that unless it does something new and interesting with the material being referenced, the best it can do is remind you of better media you could be experiencing. If that homage itself is original, that's cool - but at this point we're fetishizing the 80s primarily for an audience that either didn't experience it, or forgot it was an absolute fucking nightmare era of AIDS and nuclear panic. It's not even nostalgic anymore, just an aesthetic, and one we've seen a thousand times.
@@mrlaz9011 a bunch of Isekai. If he watches Ex-Arm, Mr. Plinkett will end up like Desmond from Smiling Friends if he ended up killing himself in front of Pim and Charlie.
@@john_blues It’s a real thing. For the low, low price of $7.99 + tax each month, you too can watch a nonstop livestream of Honey Boo-Boo (from the hit TLC series, Here Comes Honey Boo-Boo) living out her days as meth-addicted trailer trash.
@@john_blues I had a comment typed up along the liens of " meh, no [insert small streaming service hardly anyone knows about] sp screw that" Crunchyroll was the first that popped in my mind(and it has it anyway lol)
8:47 This is why I love Redlettermedia. I don't think anyone can portray the frustrations of trying to watch a movie at home, especially with friends who are half interested, better than they did here. When Plinkett answers the call about the car warranty I couldn't stop laughing.
It was like a monkeys paw, too. Poor Jay and Mike wished for the downfall of the theaters for a kick add home theater, and then got what they wished for, car warranty calls and all.
I haven't kept up with Half in the Bag for years, but I love that I can click on a random episode and the plot is still about Plinket trying to watch Night Court
Night Court first aired in January of 1984. Who would have guessed that 36 years later, it would be a pivotal plot point in the intro skit for RedLetterMedia's review of Wonder Woman 1984 (also in January)? It's all so fitting.
Holy shit, you got em there which means that poor little bat obsessed kid had to renounce his wish lol God this movie is horrible. You would think instead of BVS it would have been BVW.
It’s even worse when one appreciates that the person/persons who wrote that awful speech likely wouldn’t know ‘the truth’ even if it jumped up and bit them on the arse... ;)
A "nerdy" woman getting bullied by the other employees OF A MUSEUM! Yeah...that's believable, museum staffs are just crawling with emotionally juvenile jocks and mean-girls. :-|
"...staff OF A MUSEUM" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 That being said, the security staff at the ROM in Toronto are kinda jock-adjacent, finding minimalist of moments to throw their 'weight' around. ...well some of them do, but now you've learned more about some random Canadian museum than you probably wanted out of a youtube comment. Cheers.
Imagine writing a woman who is supposed to be strong and independent who is so haunted by a man she knew for a week 60 years ago that it nearly destroys the world
It's the universal constant of feminist movies undermining themselves whenever they get into specifics: Movie: Behold! Our strong, stunning and brave female character! Audience: Okay. So what kinda stuff does she do? Movie: Uhh. Hmm. I dunno. She's a woman...so...hmm. I guess...she gets pursued by two hot guys at the same time, creating a love triangle where she has to decide which one she likes most? That's a strong woman thing, right? Right?! Audience: *facepalm*
It was truly embarrassing I couldn't believe what I was watching and this is the best feminist empowerment has to offer? Not just in this movie but in any series or movie they get their hands on, maybe apart from the silence of the lambs
@@casbyness I'm reminded of Evangeline Lily who only agreed to play Tauriel in The Hobbit movies if she didn't have a love triangle, because she didn't want the movie to add in a new female character in the Tolkein universe just for that. Execs agreed initially, then a few rewrites and corporate meddling later she was in one.
They could've easily edited WW's entrance being her destroying the cameras instead of making that her exit. OR, even better. Have her big exciting entrance be the audience seeing the surveillance cameras getting destroyed by something, we don't know yet and assume it's the crooks doing it to cover their tracks (cause they thought that'd work). Then we see WW's entrance being her catch her crown... thing (whatever it's called that she wears on her head) as the camera sticks to WW looking ready to fight those crooks as the music swells. Thoughts?
Hey it’s nice to see that Mike likes Doom Patrol. Robotman’s arc of never being able to feel another human’s touch again must have been really relatable
I've only watched the tuna movie, but what Neil Breen made there was so strange that it was almost arthouse instead of junk. So I think it is a disservice to compare it to a comic movie.
I've liked EVERY Chris Pine movie I've ever seen except for ST Beyond and this stinker. Just look at the maniacal joker like grin on his face when he tells Diana to wish him away.
@@Winasaurus Storm was also the first. Stunning and brave, paving the way for many more firsts who were also stunning and brave for being the first and paving the way for even more firsts who were also stunning and brave for being the first and so on...
Once the first poster came out with the same color pallette as Thor all I saw on social media was people calling it Wonder Women: Ragnorak which was pretty accurate.
Is it really that hard to write 'Ragnarok'? I swear most people write Ragnorok or something like that. I'll give you credit, though, Ragnorak doesn't even sound like the actual word.
Yeah, the whole time I was thinking "truth? This movie isn't about truth. It's about *desire*. WW's desire for Steve, Max's desire to be someone. It's about what lengths you're willing to go to for desire... what do they keep talking about truth for, this isn't a PBS show where we need a moral spelled out to us."
@@carlotta4th I think it was more that wish fulfillment is lying to yourself and that she needed to face the reality that she couldn’t have Steve back.
Ehh. They'll pay him a bunch of money and he'll be back as a 'memory' in two episodes time. He'll forgive Jay for killing him and absolutely won't be a force ghost in any way.
"This world was beautiful, just as it was! And you can't have it all, you can only have the truth!" Glad to see Neil Breen is getting work as a scriptwriter.
Yea, the Amazonian island of Mascara. Where all the women spend their days painting their eyebrows and giving each other perfect cat eyes. Ruled by their Queen Maybelline. Maybe she's born with it.
I knew it was over the moment Diana tell Wiig that she's so funny and personable at dinner based on a joke or conversation that takes place off-screen, before the scene starts.
My all time favorite is the cold cut in with 2 characters just laughing and saying something reminiscent to only them and immediately dropping the subject to discuss the plot.
Like they said the wish stone was like a monkey's paw, by wishing for a Wonder Woman sequel my friend you got it but then something terrible happened which was WW84, damn sorry brother.
51:07 , also how fucked up is it, that this literal superior being, just tells everyone that the status quo is good, and that is the truth and that it should just stay that way? Really easy for her to say, shes immortal, pretty and strong. but she couldn't have her dead boy toy. very much a "If I can do without my gold plated toilet, then you can do without food or water"
It comes across the same as when rich/powerful christian people tell those suffering from disease/accidents "God has a plan for you". Easy for you to say.
@SA - 12ZZ 751106 John Fraser SS Which is hilarious, because again, that can easily translate into “do not question the status quo because that will only create chaos!” lol
I miss his commentary, interspersed with slice-of-life verite insights e.g. "..ejaculating blood into a storm drain" which made me gut laugh out loud - a rarity.
I'm going to assume that the boys favorite Python sketch is "The Cheese Shop". They really love "We're just gonna spend the next five minutes listing things" humor.
I don’t think people understand how good this is, the first 5 minutes are literally just two characters both played by Rich Evans talking to each other
It is genuinely a hassle to find out what service a movie/tv show is streaming, especially considering cost factors and also especially if you live outside the United States
@@TheOriginal_Unaleska People definitely said that, though. The problem is not paying for a service. The problem is having to pay for multiple services. "The pirate library" is way better than paying for 1000x individual services. Mind you, some shows cant even be found legally. E.g. Like I cant even get all Love it or List it Too episodes from anywhere. Why is that? Because these ahole people who own these shows hoard them.
"IMAGINE THERE'S NO HEAVEN GRANDMA AND GRANDPAW HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!" is all I can think now, I used to fancy Gal Gadot, Now I Imagine her and all the other hollywood trash rotting together.
@@Phoenix0F8 Yup, I'm just busting her balls for doing that. The funny thing is that the next celeb after she kicks it all off was her co-star Kristen Wiig.
51:11 I loved the line: "the illusion of emotion, the illusion of something grand happening". This is got the footage and music fools you. Basically that was like the whole Cloud Atlas to me
As usual, I totally agree with Jay. I said the same points during the movie. Especially on the point about it barely referencing the 80s. It flooded 80s references at the start for sure, but then it was just the occasional "oh yeah it's the 80s, throw in an old car or piece of clothing".
The chase works in Raiders because we know Jones is just a regular guy and can die at any moment... This is a superhero movie where the protagonist is a demi-god... Even though they tried to create tension by making her lose her powers but the problem is we know she can't die so it deflates the tension.
Glad I occasionally peruse the comments first. I had this exact thought. Thumbs to you over me saying the same. Before they stopped, I was kinda hoping for a repeat of the Star Wars Holiday Special review.
This is one of my all time favorite movies, simply because the studio spent millions on a movie that essentially went straight to home video, only for it to become comparable to any of the hundreds of B-movies that RLM reviews on a regular basis
Twisted Sister’s Stay Hungry album came out in ‘84 too, I choose to believe there’s an alternate universe where the movie has several uncomfortably silent scenes of Wonder Woman eating tuna while driving a car through the desert.
Had they like... actually worked on the theme of truth... like with some writers who like... understood themes and stuff... WW lassoing a lightning with her lasso of truth could have worked as a power that is not a mere lie detector but a tool which grabs onto truth... taps into... latches on if you will... to the fabric of reality itself. Regardless of illusions and delusions. Then in the end, she could have been connecting to everyone through the power of truth and have them realize the truth that their selfish little materialistic wishes (which all came at a cost) were not worth the destruction of the world, and the mass of that global realization collapsing the "wish field", "wish force", "wish-fish" or whatever it is that Maxipad Trump was broadcasting.
That hit home for me as that's literally how much noise there is during the day in my house, he'll even worse... It's the reason I wait pass 11PM to watch shit
It's hilarious watching Hollywood try to write strong female characters thinking they're doing it for the first time all the while forgetting the strong female characters that were created without trying to.
Yeah.. you'd think that "strong female characters" are just strong characters that are coincidentally also female. But fortunately Hollywood did their gender studies homework, and learned to recognize a character's Level of Opression (LoO)™ as their single most defining trait. Thus, female characters must obviously be considered *female* first, and *characters* second. There's a joke about subtle sexism and multilayered irony in here somewhere.
i think thats why the first movie was such a hit. It sold itself as a fun summer blockbuster, no artificial female empowerment about it. Its the audience that liked it that decided the movie was a great piece of cinematic feminism, not the other way around, not like Captain Marvel. I have no idea how WW2 was promoted however.
How Rich Evans talking back and forth between himself listing every possible subscription service can be more entertaining than the movie itself is.. well, it certainly says a lot about society.
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I'm pretty sure the aircraft they steal is a General Dynamics F-111 Aardvark. They have (had; they've been retired from service) an operational range of 4,200. It's about 5,800 miles from DC to Cairo, so, no, the plane they stole absolutely couldn't make it from DC to Cairo. In the military, the plane would probably be refueled midair by a KC-135 based in Europe.
Is that range on internal fuel or loaded with drop tanks? One way or round trip? The F111 was one of the longest range fighter-bombers ever made but yeah, 5800 miles without refueling is a real stretch.
About the 80's factor: yes, they made it clear the movie was set in the 80s and they played that up A LOT. The problem is that it never felt, like the actual 80s. Rather, it felt like the 80s seen through a cynical 2020s perspective, fake and somewhat distorted. Like the way that almost every single man in the movie (especially in the first half) is portrayed as a lecherous hound that treats women as trophies and objects. Yes, it was another time where such behaviour was more prevalent, but the way it's depicted in this film is almost comical. Btw, even if she were to turn a plane invisible to the naked eye, it would still show up on radar, would it not?
I’m fucking sick to death of seeing “awkward nerd drops lots of papers in public” trope. Cos you know, the papers signify nerdyness and the dropping signifies awkwardness. I wonder if they’ll discover their confidence at some point...
they mention that the exact same thing happened in Ghostbusters 2016. I swear to god that she does the exact same cat-claw-purr thing in Ghostbusters too
@@Jose-se9pu Seriously, glasses are already hot AF. I honestly think Wiig looked more attractive _with_ the glasses than without (down to personal preference, I know, but my point remains). Hollywood once again proving how out of touch it is
The first 7 minutes of this video had more action, drama, character development, plot introduction and advancement, tension, and resolution than the entire WW84.
It's a shame Wonder Woman couldn't make Batman's Troop Carrier plane disappear when they reached Steppenwolf's holdout. It would have made their mission easier...
I am in a sad point of my life where I live with my parents in my 30's. Arizona really is a PLACE! We turned wonderWOman 19xx on Christmas day to give it a chance because we were bored and kinda snowed in. I got extremely high before watching it. I told my parents before hand, days beforehand, that getting very high before this movie was my game plan and the only way i could make it through. There was some point in the first hour of the movie that all of us at the same time said "im done" (I think steve showed up out of the shower and talked about a watch or his abs idk) and we just got up and left the room and went on to do our own thing on Christmas day. No joke my parents cancelled HBO the next month. Watching this brings me great joy that I never finished it with my parents. I feel like my dad would have developed a thing for cat ladies and my mother would have got into leathercrafting.
This review came out within an hour of me finishing the movie. I starting watching the review and completely forgot that his name was not actually Max Powers until I saw this comment.
I recently rewatched their Winter Soldier HITB and at the time they still referred to Steve as Aaron Rogers all the time lol so it’s nice to see a progression on that little arc of theirs. Now Steve Rogers is in their mind while mistaking another guy’s name for his
@@MovieMagic515 yes she did. They let her create the whole narrative. And that, I believe, is what doomed the movie from the get go. A good directer isn't necessarily a great writer.
I was surprised that WW didn’t say 'Love, Life, Laughter' in her closing speech. Most of her dialogue sounds like it came from the inspirational plaques you find in gift shops.
My wife really wanted to watch this movie. We started it and when the mall shootout happened in the second scene, and Wonder Woman looks at the camera and says “I hate guns,” my wife shut the movie off. So I never actually watched the whole thing lol
As a big comic fan I have 2 say there are some great wonder women stories out there. Allot of talented comic authors have taken the character in exciting directions and there are some great arcs that could be made straight into a movie. It’s sad that with the decades worth of stories that have been written about her they couldn’t find any inspiration to tell a decent story
This movie made very little sense, so I don't want to defend it, but I will say the reason Diana mentioned her father at 40:00 is because her father is Zeus and we find out in the first movie that Zeus made the magic island of the Amazons invisible. Still an awful incoherent bloated movie with way too much cheese for me, but I did want to correct that point.
