If you tink this scene is realistic now, you cannot even imagine how it felt when this dropped back then. Heat was completely another level among all action flicks before.
Shit I remember watching this on VHS 📼 as a kid in the 90’s. I could only imagine how it must of felt watching and leaving the Cinema after that experience
@@javiercarrillo914 its not 100% realistic but there are some elements of realism like how loud the guns can get. The robber's fire superiority making a fool out of the cops that outnumber them 10 to 1, the robber's leapfrog tactics, the way the robbers and the cops handle their guns, etc.
@@wolfboy20 the den of thieves final shootout was more realistic then Heat. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NkK40iib8uE.htmlsi=f51DKdMQg8E4CF19
This is one of my favorite movies of all time, I actually own the digital copy on youtube and watch this scene all the time lol. About 4 years ago it was playing in a theater called TIFF Bell Lightbox in downtown Toronto, Ontario, Canada which is near where I live. I bought 5 tickets and brought 4 of my good friends with me (2 of whom had never seen it before) and treated them all to this masterpiece. Watching it in a theatre was a lifelong dream of mine and when I saw the promo for it I couldn't believe my eyes! It was magical and this scene was UNREAL! It don't get no better than De Niro and Al Pacino going head to head like this. Michael Mann's best!
This is still the most realistic shootout of any hollywood movie I've ever seen. The tactics are sound, the reloads are believable, and the acting is top notch. You just don't see it like this anymore.
It was the technical adviser of the film for these scenes was ex SAS, at the Brecon school of infantry tactics this clip is used to show fire and manoeuvre, not really as a teaching aid but just because it was a good clip on a demoralising course.
Most realistic yet they shot how many cops while in motion using (full?) auto weapons without taking a single shot until a few minutes later? This scene was inspired by an LA bank robbery from the early 90s where assailants wore full body armor that stopped all 9mm rounds. So where is the body armor in this Hollywood re-interpretation? Then you have Al Pacino on the move as he shoots a running suspect whose carrying a little girl, but Pacino gets a perfect head shot, of course. It couldn't possibly be less real.
@@jasonremedios6625 ONLY if there is no other alternative to end the shootout and the officer has a clear shot. He did have a clear shot for that brief second when Tom’s character turned to face him and it was just enough.
Gotta give props to how considerate the robbers are. De Niro tells everyone that they’re money is fine and they’re only there for the bank’s stash. And even lets people that are sick or disabled lean against the wall instead of sit (completely ignoring the whole taking a child as a human shield part, of course)
supposedly, Dillinger would do a similar thing. it keeps customers from reacting, and if they're there to get fleeced by the bank, may even do the Stockholm Syndrome for them. As for worrying about health issues, that likely comes from a prior robbery where that turned into an issue--otherwise why think of it?
This is the definitive modern era gunfight in film. No stupid ass music blaring, use of authentic advance/retreat multiple participant tactics, low ammo/reloading exhibited, no overly exaggerating screams of fear or pain, no Quentin Tarantino style arterial spray, just pure uncomfortable tension. My favorite part is when Val Kilmer exits the bank and first catches sight of the police. With no hesitation whatsoever he just draws down and goes to work.
Have you seen Extraction 1 & 2? Some directors are putting more grounded reality to combat in acting nowadays since they have miltary experts among the crew. John Wick also employs this style but not all scenes have music blaring. Even the Punisher series have the actor to learn actual tactics for the main character.
@@constipatedparker5879 What are you talking about? The entire bridge scene is one giant transformers clusterfck with unnecessary explosions and villians with stormtrooper aim. And the Punisher? Dude takes so much of a beating, that his litterally inhuman. Not to mention, for some odd reason they all charge him one by one.
SAS vet Andy McNab supervised the shoot-out & combat. I agree the score is so minimal and atmospheric it allows the gunfire to completely dominate the audio. A masterclass in film making.
@@peterabram62 Never knew that bit of information, but I could tell they had a weapons specialist/choreographer that knew what they were doing. One of the most realistic aspects of this scene is in the way that the accuracy of gunfire is portrayed. Most of the general public have never been in a gunfight, and Hollywood has the populace convinced that John Wick is a factual display of marksmanship. The truth is, most rounds fired in a high stress situation miss, regardless of how well the shooter can put groupings on a paper target. "Fight or Flight", and all that. Heat demonstrated this fact superbly, in my opinion.
The technical advisor from the British SAS trained them so well that militaries use this scene to show soldiers how to maneuver and supress fire from multiple angles.
@emperortime2356 his source is other youtube comments where they post the same thing he did 5000 times. People just post the same bs in ever video. Like dog ears being licked because of infection. Or the 3 trillion borning "the fact that" comments under every video
Most retarded one. Just like you. You change magazine every 500 shots fired. You run faster than a car. All cars in traffic are selfdriving and just sits in traffic jam without any passengers. 20 cops can't hit a damn thing. Al Pacino is a perfect sniper after running 500 meters.
Hands down, this is the absolute best "cops and robbers" movie that has ever been made. I believe it is in the top 25 of the best movies in cinematic history.
Fuckin hell, I bet it was. Movie theater bass must've been amazing in this scene. I worked in a theater when the Dark Knight came out and there's a scene in it that still gives me chills when I think of it--Joker in a stolen cop car, sticking his head out of the window. In the theater, the bass was so strong you felt it in your whole body. I think I stepped in to watch at least a dozen times ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Ftm4GdLcXsk.html
RIP Tom Sizemore. Every role in any movie he was in. He made that movie so much better! Heat, Saving Private Ryan and Enemy of the State! Great actor and is always missed. Rest easy Tom
I loved the movies he was in but can't escape how much of an ahole he was: History of alleged aggressive behavior towards women In 2003, Sizemore was convicted of domestic violence against his girlfriend, Heidi Fleiss, and was also given three years probation and ordered to undergo anger management counseling at that time, states CNN. Fleiss said in a statement in 2003, she "loved that man and I was very good to him and what he did to me was wrong. I want to pretend I never met him." In 2009, he was arrested again on charges of domestic violence against his fiance, who was not identified, and was held on bail of $20,000, reports Reuters. In 2016, he was arrested on suspicion of felony domestic violence, reports USA Today. In 2017, The Hollywood Reporter reported that he was removed from the set of a movie in Utah in 2003, after it was alleged that he had touched the genitals of an 11-year-old actress. Roi Maufas, who worked as a production assistant during that incident, told, "He was this guy who was already known for making inappropriate comments, being drunk, being high. We’re talking about consistent behavior, just being ‘Tom Sizemore’ on set every day," reports US Weekly.
@@Cruiser-nr3plObviously injured from childhood. Probably turned to acting as an outlet/valve....most do....others comedy. Works for some, didn't for him
You're just copying and pasting reported news which is mostly fake. The way he treated Heidi fleiss , a convicted human trafficker has no bearing on him as a human being. Tom was a good man and friend he would give you the shirt off his back.
For anyone wondering why they walked into the bank with their masks off first, earlier in the movie they swapped the bank's alarm computers with their own circuit boards. The video cameras and alarms all turned off just before they entered the bank.
@@tabedabedu please read the first comment in thread )) there would be no point in a brutal heist like this in real life, it's just action, nothing more.
@@User_491jx6f Damn, I can't even begin to imagine what it would be like to see this scent on the big screen, with the huge theatre speakers. I read somewhere that Michael Man, instead of adding the gun shots in post, had set up microphones all around the downtown area and recorded the gunfight that way. So, the gun shots that we hear in the movie, were actually from the blanks fired from the actual guns. There's a clear distinction between the gun shots in "Heat", and every other movie, literally, ever made.
@@danieldevito6380 it's unbelievably good. Especially the loudness of the shots. Would you believe how Heat wasn't even nominated for an Oscar... not even for sound design/editing??! Three bloody nominations that year... Braveheart won... Ridiculous!
@@mccarthy5825 You have to admit, though, that Braveheart was pretty awesome lol... Also, those awards are meaningless. So much BS politics to into the decisions.
@@danieldevito6380 braveheart was filmed a lot in my country, Ireland. I know some army reserves used for that and Saving Private Ryan. A work colleague of mine back in early 00s was there for the whole lot of the Normandy landing shoot. He was a squad leader or something in the FCA (it was changed to something else in 05, but before then the jpke was it stood for Free Clothing Association!) Anyway apparently whatever director was in charge of them storming the beach and jumping out of the landing craft etc... They would do all the wide and establishing shots and Spielberg would do the real action stuff... So this guy was just relentless and having the guys stand in waist high cold water with aa heavy pack and badly fitting clothes for hours and hours... He often would keep them waiting and they would miss lunch and over stay the allotted time. Obviously people started getting sick and they were being paid virtually nothing... So one day they do a shot of 40-50guys, all wet and cold, running up the beach, with certain extras told to drop etc... It was like that from 9am until about 4pm and he put them back out into the water and by this time they were at breaking point. My mate Pierce (he's very briefly in a shot with Hanks) refused. Said no. We need hot food, a warm tent, a break etc. This guy comes over and is just going crazy, he had kept them waiting so long the tide had gone out to get his lunch, starts saying 'so unprofessional buddy, no wonder you Irish never fight a war, too soft etc etc etc'... Pierce loses it and says... Right I'm in charge of like 60of these guys... We are going home. I'm going to tell the FCA about this, we are being treated so bad etc etc... Half an hour later he is talking to someone and gets a tap on the shoulder... Its Spielberg. He takes him to a production trailer,assistant makes him a coffee and apologises, says he is going to personally make sure the lads are treated better and asked would he sit down in this shot where Hanks walks by etc. Was apparently genuinely concerned that they were treated bad and after thhe majority of that FCA group were done, Spielberg, Hanks, Sizemore, Ribisi, Pepper and some veterans, all gave them a round of applause... He wasn't on the shoot for Braveheart but knew people in the FCA that were and said that Mel was an amazing guy, very approachable, funny, always making jokes, had lunch with the lads etc... I've a good story about Mel too.... So about 10 years ago I spent a weekend at a tattoo convention in Cork with this awesome dancer and actor named Raul... The guy who played the main bad guy in Apocalypto. You know with the jawbone on his shoulders... A class guy, really cool, really down to earth... Just a lovely person. And he told me that Mel is really terrified of bugs and spiders and creepy crawlies. Really hates em. So because a lot of it was shot in the jungle, especially the chase and all... there were many little things scurrying around with many legs! Mel ordered in some gas bombs to clear out patches of the jungle of insects for production tents and the like... But someone fecked up... The gas went off and after 10 mins stuff began to fall out of the lush jungle canopy... But then it got louder... Some big bangs... Apparently besides insects... Huge spiders, snakes, all kinds of monkeys and birds etc were dropping down too because the gas worked TOO well! Not only that but no one ever thought of how the humidity and all would affect all the dead things... So things started rotting... The smell after a few days was apparently so bad, the native workers and people who LIVED in the jungle were really sick from the rotting stench! 😂 Not only that but it attracted a ton of wildlife because of all these dead things! 😂 My favourite movie mistakes are in Braveheart... When he leans down to kiss his wife at her funeral you see a little van driving behind his shoulder... When he throws a guy onto a big spike during the first raid u see a guy in denim shirt and jeans and a baseball cap! There are tons of times that you see the bouncy rubber axes and swords.. But yeah i do unironically like thst movie... I was 12 when it came out and being Irish... Well...like it said a lot. It was at the end of The Troubles and the peace process began in 1998 but thhe freedom from Britain struck a chord in this country. Also Sophie Marceau 😍 😍 😍 Her, Monica Bellucci and Eva Green... Pure Euro magic! Have you ever seen Michael Manns' first version of Heat? It's a TV movie called LA Takedown... Basically the same film and sort of same characters but of course nowhere near as amazing as Heat! I love the film he made with Depp and Christian Bale about real life bank robber called John Dillinger called Public Enemies. Marion Cotillard and Stephen Graham are amazing in it too. Some of the robberies and chases are pure Heat but set in the 1920s! I really like The Town too because it has so much of the care, thought, effort and little touches in its action as Heat without copying it... Ambulance recently was OK, I do like Baby Driver, Drive, Inside Man, Point Break (the original),... But nothing will ever beat Heat... Even the first job they do... Top stuff... The side stories of Chris and his wife cheating,then her telling him to leave, Danny Trejos story and the guy who replaces him... Seeing his wife see the news in the bar was just heartbreaking! Al Pacino 's marriage falling apart and his step daughter' s suicide attempt (natalie Portman), DeNiro meeting someone he can leave with... But in the end he actually stuck to his 30 second thing... The fact he just couldn't let Waingro live... Then Al not letting him die alone...wow..There is so much heart and character moments in it to compliment the action. Damn sorry bout the rant mate! Just really enjoy movies! 😂 👍 All the best from 🇮🇪
An incredible scene. And to think, their plan works perfectly if not for 2 mistakes: (a) hiring a loose cannon to fill in, and (b) not properly killing the loose cannon.
@@nsmcgirtThey disabled the cameras beforehand so there wouldn’t be able to ID them through cam footage. The only people who could ID them would be witnesses who remembered their face during the heist.
The mistake they made was underestimating their opponent and taking an unnecessary risk doing so. They could have moved on, hit more banks in other states. Neil was warned he was hot but he went for the big score anyway and paid the price.
Clearly, a hothead (my argument is that person is Chris for opening fire the moment he saw Hanna's face) was the difference between a perfect getaway and an overall failure by the time of the movie's climax, though alternatively, Detective Hanna showed up right at the nick of time as Chris was just about to get in the car. Hanna arguably was just as much of the difference maker for the crew's fall as Neil was for not laying low in the aftermath.
The real irony is that they were done after this score, they were all going to retire. If they had just gotten away with it, no innocent people would have died, the streets wouldn't have been turned into a warzone, it would have just been over. Hanna would have been upset that he didn't catch them but he'd move on to the next case.
Still one of thee best A-list casting performances in any Cop/robber films ever made. Cinematography ideas was very advanced way past its days. Has 2010’s vibe flavor to it. I still think it’s Al Pacino’ and Robert’s best movie to this day👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼I watch this religiously once a year.
I love the fact that they used real guns with real sounds of the weapons being fired and not just edited pew pew sounds when the guns are fired even though they’re using blanks id be scared as shit acting this out truly a work of art this scene
The mark of EVERY great one shot, one kill Marine - the exhale. The sound of which the film crew PERFECTLY isolates right after Hanna takes out Cerrito. We all know this masterpiece of cinema should have garnered SO many Oscar nods and should have swept them all 👏🎥
Al Pacino goes from bank robber in "Dog Day Afternoon" to a detective trying to stop major robbery heists in this motion picture, one of which houses the best shootout ever filmed. I'm not sure that it wasn't the REAL thing.
One of (if not, the greatest) shootout scenes of any movie, of all time. The hardware and firepower were the real stars of the show in how they were coordinated & coreographed.
Every character was so strong. This was the best freaking made movie, one of the best of all time! Dinero was still cool at this time. Taxi driver and heat were his two best rolls in my opinion. God damn they just don't make them like this anymore. I wish they did!
Hands down realistic shoot out ever with the actual sound of the loud reverberating sounds of automatic gunfire and if you listen can hear the casings hitting the ground.😎👍👍👍👍
This film is one of my very favourites. And i am a film nerd. Its so realistic. And the tone and the story of the flim is brilliant. And 2 of the best actors in the world. 👍
One of the beautiful things about these characters is their story depth. Mann left nothing to chance. In HEAT 2 they explain that Macally was a Vietnam vet and trained the crew in firearm proficiency and firefight tactics.
A classic scene. I can remember watching this in a theatre like it was yesterday. The only other movie scene that is close is the hostage/gun battle scene in The Kingdom.
I remember when they shot this in DTLA,BLEW THE CITY UP for 2 days, loosely inspired by the NoHo B of A shootout. Was definitely one of coolest location shoot I've ever been privy to . Love living in this city!
I’ve watched this movie over 20 times the first time with my 16 year old son who asked to go to the movies with me….when I was a teenager the last person I would go to the movies with my father… we had a wonderful time and every time I watch it I find something different something I’ve missed some thing in the background truly an amazing cop and robber picture!!!
The best male actors of our time all together in the same movie...... FUGGIN' AWESOME. Val Kilmer's firearms handling protocol is perfection and this scene is used in training for FBI and police departments in the USA. This scene and the scene in the movie Collateral where Tom Cruise deals with some guys who stole his briefcase are the two best gunfight scenes ever in modern movies.
Of course both features were directed by the master that is Michael Mann : technical support came from Mick Gould, an ex-SAS Operative who worked alongside Liam Neeson, Denzel Washington and many others. Easy to see why Gould is the "right-hand/go-to" specialist when it comes to action scenes, weapons handling and so on.
Love this movie but this part of the movie always gets me. How in the hell did the cops gets there that fast? It’s LA traffic, no way they getting to the bank in 5 minutes. No way lol
Remember, the cops had a tip-off that a bank was going to be robbed from Van Sant's crew after they beat it out of Trejo. So, the cops were already on their way. They weren't waiting for the bank to be robbed, they already knew in advance about the robbery.
One of the MOST intense shootouts ever filmed in motion picture history! So many bullets, so many people shot and injured, and the amount of damage to cars and properties all over! Great performance by great actors and extras there!
I was always rooting for the thieves because they were badass and this scene is amazing BUT always killed me that they start to leave as the cops get the info and they are there in 45 seconds? Riiiiight
Yeah I think the exact same thing about this scene! Neil and is crew threw Pacino and his detective's tails prior to the heist, they thought his crew had left the country. Then all of the sudden in this scene one of the detectives gets a tip that Neil's crew are considering a bank, miraculously as they are actually carrying out the robbery. So then Pacino happened to be in the room, hearing the detective say this, and IMMEDIATELY commanded his whole team to leave knowing Neil's crew are at the bank right there and then. And not only that, but Pacino's character somehow gets like the entire LAPD to respond to the scene where NO 911 calls or witnesses or alarms have occurred, and the entire fucking department is already posted up there with several roadblocks in like 3 minutes. This movie is banger but yeah that part of this scene is a huge stretch. I can believe Pacino's character and his detectives making it there in time before Neil's crew leaves, but there is no fucking way standard uninformed beat cops would have had all the roads blocked off.
Badass scene right here. I love the tactics used by both…”you move I shoot”…awesome! I love the end of the confrontation when he knew there was not negotiation. Boom! Awesome acting! 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
everything about this looks and sounds so right, theres only one detail, there is no way you would be able to fire and still communicate this way without ear protection. these guys would look like zombies in real life
