Heated Debate on Pornography w/ Dennis Prager  

He’s going to hopefully come around. You can’t defend the indefensible. Pornography is something that promotes deviant views of women, takes God out of the sacred sexual union of a man and woman and destroys families. Period.

I can't see how anyone could fault you here. You did superbly well, Matt. I'm proud of you.

@@jeffgough I have done it... its realistic and its entirely possible to turn of all sexuality when its not for Procreation or with ones Wife. People think things are impossible only because of their view on the topic... all things are possible with God... And trust me... the freedom from it... I am Married and we are so happy..... without Sex! ( We hug and show that affection physically yes) . The fact I am able to ... just proves... we do have self control and abilities that are powerful.... we cannot say we dont and then make things "Ok" because of this or that.... an excuse if you will. Humans as a whole and im not judging you or pointing at you... im saying generally.. people are good at making excuses for lack of control. It's a human trait.... But when you have something powerful to live up to from Gods Laws... I tell you this... Anything is possible... Every man has access to learn how to control himself... it's not for specific people only.... it's free for all. Believe me .

​@@jeffgough if you're at an age where your wife has alzheimers, your lust does not need quenching in the same way a verile young man's does. Matt is right. It's a sin and there's no excuse. We can't say it's OK for this person or that person to do it, but not that person. Its not alright full stop.

I'm very much ensnared (good term) in it. I'm hopelessly addicted to it and have been for so many years. I'm married, although not a Catholic marriage ( which we are going to put rihgt ) please have understanding and compassion for those of us that have this disease. I use pornography and I'm trying to be a good Catholic. I don't list after a beautiful woman on a train and then masturbate. I use this to deal with life. I need prayers

I'm so happy for you 💝

Amen

This statement sums up it very nicely. I might still the quote. 😊

Absolutely. Our politics cannot save us. It is by Christ alone and through him our politics can have a morally acceptable foundation.

Please explain what you mean by that.

Underrated comment

It wasn’t too long ago that polite society considered what’s now on Netflix to be hardcore.

This is true - but I don't think Matt Fradd has an objective standard for what he calls pr0n other than his gut feeling. He's really inconsistent on this point in all his material on the subject, and it frustrates me to no end. How can he say that the Sistine Chapel is art but the Victoria's Secret fashion show is pornography? By what standard? It's not good to let our standards change due to culture, but when our standards are based on vague feelings rather than objective observations, they're gonna slide ans slide.

TRUTH

What we once called hardcore is now children’s TV.

well said, Dr. Strange Love

A woman once said "my husband doesn't mind where the hunger starts as long as I come home to EAT." what say you to this?

@@thefacelessquestion3333 I’m not a hundred percent certain but I guess the analogy is saying “wether you love me or are just horny, so long as we have sex at the end.” If that is indeed what the analogy is referring to I’ll simply put it as this. Intent is everything. Matters of the spirit tend to revolve around the spirit. If an unmarried couple have not taken their vows, but truly love each other, they look upon each other with the grace and understanding of their Heavenly Father, and they express that love physically through sexual intercourse, I don’t see anything sinful in that. Inversely, if two people married twenty years, don’t talk to each other, don’t relate to each other, don’t even really like each other, but they both blow off steam by reducing themselves to base, primal, mutual masturbatory tools, there is something sinful about that.

@@DRSTRANGELOVEIN I don't think Matt's gonna agree with your first thought of an unmarried couple with "great intent" being intimate. I see your point tho

@@thefacelessquestion3333 You have a point as well, it might be that such an idealized scenario is virtually impossible because of our fallen sinful nature. I personally feel that in those blind spots is where grace falls. And we must have grace for each other as all of us fall short.

It's a pretty cool quote, and I think I can accept some aspects of the sentiment, however in both parts of that quote, the gun is being blamed for the murder.

@@colasfalon6470 Interesting that’s how you see it, as compared to the gun and poison as tools used by the sinner. I see the tools as the clear means and not the deception

@@1guitar12 From your reply, I am not certain whether what precisely we disagree on. If I might clarify, it isn't actually the "adultery" nor the "poison" that actually CAUSES the death (as the ultimate cause), but the individual's eventual need for the utilization of them. Perhaps a better analogy might be the farmer putting down a lame/sick animal, in which it makes no difference whether it is the shotgun or the arsenic...they are only a means to finalize that which was already inevitable. Nobody thinks that the shotgun or arsenic are evil (at their core nature) nor that those tools are the ultimate cause (even thought they are the proximal cause) of the animal's demise.

@@colasfalon6470 Yea I think we’re on the same page

There's just one problem: viewing pornography in the context of marriage is adultery.

@@NorthCountry84 Thanks, I'm still undecided as to Protestant vs Catholic vs Orthodox, but keeping my mind open!

Praise God. Happy to hear that.

youngKOkid, I have been a longtime listener to Dennis' fine radio show--he is a real champion of truth and goodness in many outstanding ways. But he finally always failed me when the discussion turned to human sexuality. I came to realize he had some kind of global error in his thinking. I am guessing that judaism includes no account of natural law. If you do not think things have inbuilt-nature and inbuilt purpose, then there is finally no way to know if you are rightly using the thing--in this instance, sexuality--or abusing it. Judaism is the preparation for Christianity and Western Civilization from which we here--and the world--have benefited. Christianity knows--through Aristotle through Thomas Aquinas--that virtue is honoring the nature of whatever thing we are considering, its design and purpose. And vice is using a thing for other than it was designed for, or contrary to its design (sodomy being an example in sex, lying an example in speech, bulimia an example in eating, etc). With thanks to Judaism and the Old Testament, I encourage you to keep coming, for Christ made all things New.

Praise Yeshua! Wait until the Revelation clicks, then you will have no trouble accepting Jesus as the king of the Jews and the Gentiles.

Because you hate your own genitals?

its not evil. no matter how much you imply it is. its the shame ONTOP the compulsive behavior that makes people so exhausted they cant go find people to be in a relationship with this shame alone makes it evil. because the evil is the undue and unwieldy restraint that leads yo a broken life. the detriment alone is crippling, adding embarrassment upon, enforces a guilt- matrix so complex that alter egos are created to "appear" valuble, which guarantees the behavior by creating self-policed people who are operating within a society of restrict victorian codes (codes the aristocracy enforce and happily break and mock privately) repressing and falsely appearing to their friends and neighbors while they have a high sex drive, btw, unlike others who have low sex drives, easy to say its wrong when you have no dog on the fight. furthermore the shame makes ones hide for fear of failure to live to the standards and so they adopt a persona that isnt aligned with their true drives all to justify a culture that benifits (rewards) those who are either good at lying about sex or have little to no sex drive meanwhile the supposed Christian society is the highest consumer of sex and its no mystery and the hypocrisy isnt suprising. because its all demonic to use the shame against each other but why is it necessary? if a healthy life was within reach wouldnt it be affordable? food, education, self-employment. my point is not only is The US not Christian as it claims. but it is actively Satanic, demonic, and inhumane and sadistic to people who are uninitiated and outside of wealth

Meh, not in my experience: the ones I’ve known were proud of their “collections”, sharing it with friends, and coercing their female partners to re-enact what they saw in corn with threats of “I’ll cheat on you if you don’t comply”. They don’t care. Now many of them openly admit they’d prefer secks robots and artificial wombs over women, even the conservative ones.

You never watch it and say yeah that was great. It’s shameful not because society deems it, but because at the root of it is pervasive way of looking at another human being. It’s reducing a person doing these acts of pleasure as an object for self gratification. The act of union is marred by one self satisfaction. Your are saying no to God by using a gift given to share in creation, to do as you please. It’s an abomination and those who do not see it that way have convinced themselves that their sin is not a sin.

​@@pitfighter871It's still evil

It's evil & absurd.

110% and I've been saying this after seeing this for DECADES and I was told I was "too strict" with dating, then I said "it's gonna get REALLY BAD NOW":...when the "smart" phones came out. What can go wrong with hand held access to porn with out the shame or embarrassment to the point that the soul and heart are ...dead. DEAD. Love aways, chaste Catholic single woman who is FED...UP.

It has? How come? How about statistics on violence and abuse since the advent of the Internet?

@@pera.j.andersson these all along pornography are sins and ruined the society.

You used to be the Moon and Sun and now you're just a loaded gun

You truly are blessed to have Matt ❤

Why is this not a pinned comment?

Hahaha I saw this and didn’t see the name first and about lost it 😂

You guys are so awesome god bless you both

Beet comment.

people were already and will always be selfish. we use to get wives but literally just taking them.

​@@humpteedumptee8629 That doesn't negate the truthfulness of the statement, sex shouldn't be selfish and neither should marriage. If it's all about yourself then you won't be able to maintain a lifelong relationship and the sex will be meaningless

@@tanislater6845 no saying acting like your not going to be selfless indefinitely is silly. that's why we have compromise. because people by default want things their way.

"...pornography trains us in selfishness" is people dictating how others should behave. I consume lots of porn, but I do lots of things for others without asking anything in return. I must be so selfish, right? If my love and care isn't accepted because of some side activity, then marriage is a leash. Dunno how it's different from one person in the relationship telling the other what friends he is allowed to have.

@@nightmareTomek"Pornography trains us in selfishness" doesn't say anything about what others should so. It merely describes the effects of what someone has already chosen to do.

Your mom should confront him, tell him how she feels. Misunderstanding should always be resolved. If he yells or anything, remind him you're an armed citizen.

Women don’t understand the male mind. Nothing new here

@@artaxerxes360 I always enjoyed saying "remember who does the cooking in this house".

It's the 'ever-so-slight-justification' that leads one rolling down the hill to full-blown slavery.

For sure. Been there. Please God that I'm rescued forever.

Our behavior follows the thoughts of our mind. If you can't win the battle in your own mind you have no chance curbing the behavior.

the only time it's considered an addiction is if it's getting in the way of your productivity, if instead you'd read a book or watch tv, you're not addicted.

Personally, when I stopped associating sin and shame with pornography, I was no longer really tempted by it. In that respect, regarding every gradation of porn as purely evil only adds to its power. It was never a really serious problem for me, so everyone’s different, but I think we can often take our own experience and mistakenly think that it applies to everyone.

The easiest way to desensitize someone to sex is for them to have sex, then they realize how Meaningless it is

@@tesladrew2608So the act that creates human beings is meaningless?

Women with high body counts destroy their ability to form deep relationships. Because women often feel something for those they sleep with.

The problem too is that Dennis won't admit magazines featuring naked women are porn. It's a form of prostitution. If he thinks women in Playboy were just posing for photos, then he is either a coward that won't face the reality of the darkness behind it, or he has a serious problem with lust and won't admit it. Either way, he's not being honest with himself about why it's wrong. He is accountable to God with 613 laws and yet he wants to manipulate his way out of lust. It's really quite gross behavior to be proud of yourself for behaving well socially, but dwelling in dark and nastiness inside of you. I don't want a husband with that kind of mind. I'd rather be single and pure.

@@nightmareTomek this is true about men too. I've rejected promiscuous men repeatedly. It's disgusting. It's also very unmanly for a man to use women in that way and it shows that he separates his mind from his body easily and he disrespects his own body just as much as the bodies of women he has casual sex with. Yet this is the role model men have been fed by the powers that be through the media. In reality, a lot of promiscuous men have trouble connecting with women in bed, secretly hate them and some of these men come out as gay later in life. Sad but true.

Not the most proper thing to say. However that made me laugh.

That’s actually really funny.

Unrepentant perv???

It’s called a joke snowflake

A bit weird but kinda funny

Really it’s mostly Judaism

prager represents judaism and neoconvervatism

sexual debauchery and degeneration of society is okay as long as we have da jobs!!! 🤡🤡🤡🤡

(((American Conservatism)))

American Conservativism = Neocon = Judeo-Christian = Judaism

Christ made this clear in the Spiritual interpretation of "Thou shalt not commit adultery." It is selfishness.

@@thecarlitosshow7687literally nobody here advocated for adultery. Masturbation is not adultery. How absurd

@@bluesdealerI wouldn't call it adultery, but it's still a form of sexual misconduct in a marriage.

I think that female emancipation creates the need for pornography’

Yes, it frequently frustrated me that Prager seemed unable to hold his tongue long enough to hear Matt's response.

Agreed. With Judaism everything is based on works not faith. Very interesting how he justifies the difference between a “behavior” and acting on something.

I don't believe he meant it to be rude but indeed the action of interruption was guilt.

Prager doesn't speak for all Jews. Also... Cope harder.

He's jewish

You wouldn't be so shocked if you had any knowledge of the talmud

‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭11:14‭-‬15‬ "And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works."

I mean… he’s J-ish so this is pretty much right in step with what they believe. You should check out the quote from Al Goldstein on why they are seemingly so prominent in the industry. REAL eye opener.

Check out his animated video on adultery….I unsubbed after that one. I can tolerate a great many things, but I draw the line there.

This is the exact issue Judaism has had since time immemorial. All through the Bible, especially in the Torah, the Jewish people have tried to define what is good based one what they find objectionable, not based on what God, their God and the God of Christianity, considers good. This is why they struggled with idol worship and the punishments that came from it. This is why they were forced to wander the wilds for forty years, because they were more preoccupied with what they considered right than what God considers right. You can see this is Dennis' view as he doesn't view encouraging thoughts of evil things as being unacceptable, merely that they're less ideal than not having them.

given the bibles unclear and conflicting ideas - they have to be interpreted by man

@@malcolmfreeman7802 to which ideas are you referring to as conflicting?

@@MattFoote I've noticed, when pressed, no one ever has concrete examples when they mention things like what Malcom said about the Bible.

I don't think the purpose of this debate was to figure out what evil is. What I took from this debate is what is the best we can do as human beings, Not saints. I thinknthats where Denis was coming from. The other guy calling master--------- evil and saying people should control themselves while smoking and drinking is more than a bit hypocritical LOL. (I smoke and drink a bit also but)

This is his playground

Dennis prager made him look like a brainwashed fool.

I agree! I wasn’t expecting much on his end but he really stepped up and stood his ground!!

@@gloryghassan1460 his years of working against porn really show here!

I mean. Matt's a masculine dude. I'm not sure why we’re setting the bar so low? I expected him to throw bombs

YOu mean how smart he is

Articulate? Smart? With all this cigar smoking?

You mean standing up for his opinion.

Thank you faceless stranger for sharing your own opinion of what you think that I meant.

@@KyleWhittington Haha yea, Nastrom is a number of posts on this video being passive aggressive towards posters who back up Matt, saying that Catholics can't defend their "opinions" on porn. I mean, as if Nastrom himself has properly written up a rebuttal (which, most likely, he hasn't).

@@richardhead-sw2qc In what way does it points to Jesus? This made me curious.

How is he “standing up for the truth?” God *created* male sexuality, it is totally normal, healthy and natural. Sick of this prudish and judgmental shaming of male sexuality. It’s so unhealthy, oppressive, against nature

Prager: "I'm not advocating porn!" But then he's saying porn is ok🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️

Gradually i began to hate them

@@mariapankrath5845 The tribe always advocates for porn.

It wasn't an emotional example. He was asking Matt what the husband should do in that situation.

I can imagine. From every angle-- psychological, neurological, social, moral, ethical... there's just no defence for pornography.

@@Musicienne-DAB1995 Correct, there is no coherent moral defense for porn. Sadly, the sweeping normalization of porn has made it appear to harmless even to people of faith. And in faith communities that are reluctant to speak and shroud sex and sexual issues in silence and shame, porn is both rampant and wildly destructive!

Thank you for saying this.

@@AI-lr9sb my pleasure. My clinical specialization is sex and sexuality. Not that many of us about, so I feel obligated to be vocal.

Which is worse than a sexless marriage where a woman withholds sex?

Well modern Judaism was created by the Pharisees.

Funnily enough, it is indeed a dialogue with a *literal* Pharisee!

Beautifully written, and an incredible insight.

💯 🎯 👏👏👏

Lol did you watch the video. Also you’re probably not addicted to pornography. This dude is a charlatan convincing you you have a disease so he can sell you the cure. Hm just like Christianity.

@@Gt3ch The fact that Prager couldn't even define his position at all, just shows how much he's arguing on shaky grounds. It's like saying I'm against abortion but only after 16 weeks, why 16 weeks? Because it's 'less bad' than killing a baby at 26 weeks, or 36 weeks. Just because it's 'less bad' doesn't make it not bad. But Prager was very hesitant to even calling the 'less bad' as bad.

@@Gt3ch fair. just, "it's less sinful, so eh whatever," is such a bad point, as Matt I think made clear. Especially when it can and often does lead to or involve such greater evils.

@@vizuz - so there are no gradations of bad or evil? Dante Alighieri, call your office!

@@vizuz I don’t know what you mean by saying he "couldn't even define his position at all.” Maybe you missed it? While the abortion example is faulty yes there are different levels of sin. Even Matt said there are varying levels to murder as patricide is worse than killing a stranger.

@@brendan.j.t Well yeah- they barely touched on a couple topics that really needed to be expanded more for their positions to be clearer. One is all the evils and damage related to the production, dissemination, and consumption of even the soft core images Prager is referring to. The other is the damage to the psyche and well-being to a person with a high sex drive that is getting insufficient sexual outlets - like his devoted father or a disabled/disfigured person who is unable to have a loving relationship. So where it stays is that they both agree on what is ideal. Frad is saying anything other than the ideal is intolerable and forbidden. Prager is saying life is messy and we are all sinners and there are circumstances of minimal harm where we should be charitable and be more concerned with graver sins.

He actually cared about how it would hurt his wife instead of feeding his lustful desires. I was attracted to women since age 12 (bisexual) I prayed and prayed to be set free. I am free from this sin. We should not give in to our sins but pray for help to overcome. Jesus has the power to help us overcome sin. Prager cannot tap into this power as he doesn't have the Holy Spirit, he is a fleshly man, a natural man. The natural man is an enemy to God and cannot know God. The Holy Spirit however, can make a new heart in us, and now there are ads of naked women everywhere, and I have no lust. It's just looking at a sister. Thank God i'm free from that sin.

He absolutely bodied prager

@@rosehannah4845 Thank you for having the courage to see the error of your ways instead of seeing it as an identity like the world wants to teach.

Absolutely. It must have been a huge embarrassment for Prager knowing he's the guy who is defending wanking to porn (even in the cases of nonces viewing animated CP 🤮) and not the guy who is trying with all his might to be heroic and virtuous.

Why does anyone listen to Mr. Prager? He is a liar, following his father, satan. It is not gray! He is not a child of God.

Yes! Dennis was doing 'okay ' until the end. Might be time for him to leave the memory of his doting mother and amoral father, and cross the Tiber.

Pornography should be absolutely avoided. From my personal experiences, it's toxic and good for nothing. Nobody should touch it.

@@ML-rd6ci Thank you so much for The Truth.

His poor wife. Despicable behavior. Jesus: "But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart." Prager needs repentance. His excuse that all men HAVE to have variety is unexcusable is not love for your wife. His poor wife.

​@@rosehannah4845 Jesus also said "If your right hand should cause you to sin, it is better to cut it off and throw it away", "If anyone does not hate his father and mother and all of his brothers and sisters he is incapable of being my disciple", and "I came not bring peace, but a sword", so it's pretty clear that we can't take everything he said at face value.

@@johnnastrom9400 why would you tell a Catholic to watch the videos of an atheist Jew? All truth lies with God. Nothing factual can come from an anti-Christ in regards to Jesus, it’s just the opining of man. And if you say the apostles were just men, yes, but they were given the power of the Holy Spirit to continue the work of Jesus.

@@Thagomizer your point of scripture is completely out of context and understanding.

​@@Thagomizer "If your right hand should cause you to sin, it is better to cut it off and throw it away" Jesus is telling us to cut out sinful temptations and occasions of sin from our lives. "If anyone does not hate his father and mother and all of his brothers and sisters he is incapable of being my disciple" Jesus is telling us that following him will put us at odds with the world and even our own family. Sacrifice is a key principle in Christianity "I came not bring peace, but a sword" Jesus wasn't a hippy coming to spread the summer of love like many supposed Christians believe. What Jesus was teaching was such a revolutionary doctrine that it stirred up a lot of conflict and strife. Our Lord caused a great deal of commotion in Jerusalem. It turns out that a lot of people back then, and even to this day, are not ready to detach from sin, love their neighbor, or to bear their cross. "But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart." Jesus is warning us that indulging in wicked thoughts will put us on the path to wickedness. If a man constantly indulges lustful thoughts in his mind about other women, he is going to neglect his wife, or at the very least not treat her with the full love and respect that she deserves. He will have one foot out the door at all times, waiting for the opportunity to finally indulge in his lustful thoughts. And if a man is single, this is still sinful because indulging in lustful thoughts will tempt the man into sin. Deliberately allowing yourself to be tempted into sin is a sin in itself.

At what point Dennis didn’t not defend women dignity and sanctity or at what point he showed the opposite?

LoL. Meanwhile your wife is cheating behind your back.

I think Dennis' comments about his father's magazine subscription were off putting. But other than that, he never said it was OK to treat a woman in an undignified way. The Catholic unwilling to please his wife in a small way seemed undignified. Keep in mind, there was no mention of kink or any kind of immoral behavior. If a young man about to get married watched this, I think he might walk away confused by the Catholic's arguments.

@@Bluemoon98-2 The part where he defended porn.

@@ZapparoniWorks I will watch it again to see where he defined port. ..I do not think k he did . The second guy kept referring g to everything as porn and sin. Where Denis makes distinguish netizen. Levels, not because he think some porn are okay ..because in realty you have to choose what to go after . It is not fair to say he demanding work or because the second guy think everything is sin..he on the other hand hero the defend women dignity.

He’s not humble at all. He’s dogmatic and prudish. He’s a busybody.

AMEN!

can you provide some literature to advance your point?

" I’m praying for Mr. Prager that he has his Damascus moment." -- And I am praying Christians will come to their senses and focus on the real evils of the world and not about men having sexual thoughts.

@John Nastrom as summarized by Mr. Fradd: porn, lust, masturbation, and improper use of means is the evil with varying levels of morality. Not “sexual thoughts” in general. There is a difference. They discuss ordered sexual nature between married man and women.

You should get someone that doesn't put porn and sex on such a high level. In reality is doesn't mean a lot and never used to. Only in a post ww2 era has pornography become what it is and made men into what they are..

Glad to hear

@@mikepastor.k6233 It's crazy for you to tell someone to leave their husband based on reading a short paragraph. Especially when it ends with them working through a problem and having a stronger relationship because of it. Never give advice based on the presumption you know better than them.

You sound like these guys, someone who loves to talk about their religion and how obedient they are at obeying it and it’s prophets while obviously not knowing really anything about what it actually says. If you think pornography is such a problem for women then you really should actually read your Bible and what it says about women and wives especially. I mean, who are you to even judge him at all considering how clear the Bible is that wives are supposed to be obedient to their husbands? It sounds like you want to be treated like an equal or something like a partner…. I don’t understand why you and probably 99%, literally if not 100% of so called Christians in the west claim to be religious and a follower of Jesus and then so obviously live by secular laws in a secular society that literally means it impossible to live as Jesus says to. If early Christians were like modern “Christians”, they never would have had a problem in Rome, never would have been persecuted or fed to lions.. What makes that even sadder or more ridiculous is that they and the Christians from then all the way to around the beginning of the enlightenment and even modern Africa obviously obeyed much of the commands and laws in the Bible, even though they were mostly illiterate, while you and pretty much every single so called believers today can read the scriptures and yet instead of obeying the laws and commandments you all either completely ignore them or make the most ridiculous excuses and mental gymnastics as to why it doesn’t say what it actually says. Like claiming Jesus and the religion are peaceful, even though their history is soaked in blood and Jesus himself states he didn’t come to bring peace, but the sword, and to turn families against each other so father turns against son and mother against daughter… because you know, when he says he didn’t come to bring peace what he really meant was that he did come to bring peace and the sword was simply just a metaphor… It couldn’t mean what it actually says and what Christians actually lived by for 1700 years at least… If you think porn is so bad why are you a member of a religion whose scripture says things like rapists should be punished by forcing them to marry the woman they raped? Porn might not be the best thing, but compared to what the Bible says it’s nothing..

Also… Do you know what a father giving away the bride means at weddings? The Bible describes wives as literally being the property of the husband, the father is literally giving her away to the husband. The same reason why before divorce was made legal and socially acceptable if a man wanted to get rid of his wife he could and would literally take her to the market and sell her to another man. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wife_selling_(English_custom)

Prager is literally modelling the Pharisees talking to Jesus by refusing to accept that God has updated the rules. Faith counts for a lot now, not merely action. He knows this to be true as he's effectively said it is an ideal but admitting it would be him converting to Christinity. Fradd mightve completely finished him off if he asked, 'Does God not want us to constantly pursue the highest ideals?'

As Catholics, our hope is to become saints. And we are definitely never called to be mediocre in the faith. I have not watched this yet, but in reading the comments, I can’t wait to hear Matt.

Your comment is awesome. Thank you for taking the time.

There are Jews who disagree with what Dennis Prager has said.

@@Musicienne-DAB1995 That's comforting.

Welcome to the club!

Confrontation is not contrary to charity. In fact, in our society, we err so close to the side of niceness that we are often uncharitably leaving our brothers in their sin to wallow and fester. Shame on us.

@@anzot6903 Well-said. However, I don't think he meant charity. There's a better word for it somewhere. Agreeableness? 🤔

"on the side of charity" -- i.e., on the side of wishy-washy pious-sentimental bullshit? He's a good host, could be a better philosopher.

​@@MeanBeanComedy Charity means love. Love of God for his own sake and love of neighbor as ourselves. I'm assuming he's using the word as Catholics use it.

Well I mean, what other religion got a torture device as a religious symbol or a deity coming down from heaven to become a human being so said deity could die on aforementioned torture device because He loves His creation?

@@bendover9620 what a weird comment… if you’re mocking it, stop it. If you’re not, it sounded as if you were.

This conversation made me realize that the god of the bible must want everyone to arrogantly suck on big. . .brown. . .cigars.

@@bendover9620 Actually, the crucifix is the religious symbol and it's meaning is to show us how Jesus died for our sins. Yours, too. And of course God didn't die on the cross. Jesus did. Jesus was fully man and fully God. They killed the body. The spirit will never be killed.

@@mikeyerian2562 Dude, if God did not die on the cross, then what's the point of His death? I don't know what sect you are within Christianity, but Christ died on that cross, went to hell (well at least not Gehenna) to save those in Abraham's bosom, for the wages of sin is death, and now everyone has a chance to enter the kingdom. For God to be punished with death; a punishment only given to sinners and the defiled, out of love for His creation is the cornerstone of Christianity. Now, of course God's spirit did not die on the cross since the Holy Spirit is another form of the Trinity, however, for you to say that God did not die on the cross is theologically incorrect since as you have said, He is fully man AND fully God. Christ is God, he died on the cross, now therefore, God, in the form of Christ who is both God and Man, died on the cross. You trying to degrade Christ to merely just His corporeal body, different from his spirit which is God sounds so heretical I'd slap you irl. It's even ironic that you say that He's 100% God and Man afterwards.

My heart breaks with you, I'm so sorry you have had to go through that.

So sorry, Jessica. My first wife was an adulteress. I'll pray for you and just know that you will heal. It will take time and it is not fun, but you will heal.

I am so sorry, Jessica. You will be in my prayers.

Praying for you, sister.

Well said

I had to pause the video and that moment and laughed. Btw your user name is hilarious. My daughter said it should go down in history.

Exactly! That is someone’s daughter. Someone’s sister. To think that some women should be sacrificed and dehumanized for the sake of men’s desires is disgusting.

What if it's pictures and videos of your own wife?

@@alqoshgirl To infantilize women like that is incredibly patronizing. Eventually, your daughter and sister will become adults and think for themselves, make decisions on their own, and might find that they have different beliefs and values outside of the asexual prepubescent hinterland you'd rather keep them in, and might even find that they are all the better for it.

@@alqoshgirl Great comment.

Well said!!!!!!

@Upper Class Homosexual many of the women and individuals in porn are being trafficked and abused.

@UpperclassHomosexual what??? Porn makes people rape kids, only you don't know cause most of the kids don't talk. All this perversion if it didn't exist we wouldn't have all this different sexualy perverted ideas such as gender ideology. I was 4 years old when I found my parents porn you can't come back from that. Porn is evil. Too much musterbation castrated me no longer can have a decent orgasm. Not to mention the fact that I grew up thinking I was into girls and I was in a wrong body. I blame pornography for destroying innocence and families

​​@Upper Class Homosexual that's untrue. Porn increases sexually deviant behavior. This is what studies show. This is what Bundy confessed to. You're creating a false dichotomy to defend the porn industry. Stop spreading lies

You’re joking right? If you think porn is bad how can you not have a problem with a religion or it’s scriptures that have caused so many innocent people to be killed for the most ridiculous reasons for over 1000 years? Do you have any idea how much damage was done by Christians when they burned down the library of Alexandria in the 4th century and flayed the women there to death because they were studying “witchcraft”? If you think the modern religion these guys represent is anything close to what the scriptures actually say it’s supposed to be and how it was for well over 1000 years until the enlightenment and secular revolutions started making people sane again. From the people of Salem demanding the clergy stop killing what we now know to be innocent people, to the ending of slavery, and now the pope even saying the religion actually doesn’t have a problem with people being gay or getting married and joining the church after 1700 years of persecution and violence towards them…. All while the scripture remains the same, with all those death penalties still there, including simply for being gay and the commands for believers to enforce those laws or be sent to a lake of fire… It should be obvious by now to anyone who cares enough to actually learn about the religion and it’s history that it’s very much man made and the drastic changes over the past four centuries has been on a public level with the churches then eventually jumping on the bandwagon at the tail end while claiming to have been those directing the change… Even though it’s obvious they do so only after kicking and screaming and while it directly contradicts what their own god supposedly says in their scripture.

Carissa, so lovely to see you here in the comment section. Know that I'm praying for you on your journey no matter where it takes you.

@@PintsWithAquinas Thank you, that’s so kind. Your viewers have been so supportive too and I am enjoying the journey.

Also, I appreciate your steadfastness in confronting his loose position that doesn't seem to be based in any teaching. The way you described sex as God designed is biblical and beautiful and Dennis misses it. So, he can say Man lying with another man is wrong but not other sexual immorality. You handled this topic, and every point he made seamlessly, staying true to Christian values as outlined in the Word.

"pornography in the world, not so, its all evil" -- No. Why don't you explain what it is "all evil"? Because you can't.

@@johnnastrom9400 oh sure I can. evil is a privation of the good. porn is evil because it preys upon the weaknesses of both the performer and the consumer to degrade them. it degrades the subject, because it takes what should be private intimate parts of their life shared with someone who loves them to strengthen that bond, and turns them into a commodity to enrich others. by doing so, it inflicts further evil by deminishing that persons self worth, their reputation, and their future prospects. habitually making oneself the subject of porn causes a person to see their intimacies as cheep, and lose their sense of dignity. it also inflicts evil on the consumer by preying on their vices and encouraging compulssive behavior which lkeaves the consumer more vulnerable to oither forms of exploitation. habitual use limits a persons will power, desnsitizes them to increasingly unnaturalk situations, and lowers their ability to endure hardship gracefully. all of this is without even touching how ubiquitous human tarafficing is n the industry, or how many rapists and murderers report having been addicted to porn before doing anything illegal. it's evil. just because you enjoy it doesn't make it acceptable.

I don't think he says it's good. I think he means context is more important. His definition of porn is quite nuanced.

@@johnnastrom9400 What makes you think the poster can't unless you see no issue with porn - in mainstream entertainment and online.

What about the Cerne Abbas Giant? Would that qualify?

Why do you feel the need to proclaim that you are an evangelical?

​@@DFMoray Perhaps as a sign of sincerity, and not just blind agreement like some of us Catholics might give?! In Christ, Andrew

No real particular reason, other than to say I wanted to lend support from someone who is representative of another body within the Christian world. I have a ton of respect for Dennis Prager but I think Matt was rightly pointing out that Jesus was always seeking to point out that sinful actions always originate in the heart so he went deeper than just trying to modify sinful actions. But certainly I didn’t mention that I’m an Evangelical as a means of any opposition to Matt as a Catholic.

@@DFMoray Maybe to show people from different backgrounds can agree on things without subscribing to one particular denomination or worldview.

Prayers

As Orthodox Christian I might be biased in favor of Christian views but I know a difference between lust and attraction - I'm highly attracted to every beautiful woman but I feel more lustful toward provocative women. Now if the perfect looking women act provocatively I'd be more attracted sexually and that's how provocative behavior and lust are both sinful because like Dennis said, which undermined his argument, it'll drive you crazy to sit in a restaurant and not think about food.

It hasn't been destroyed yet. You're still with us. Just wanting you to keep looking forward. Confession is invaluable.

@@canibezeroun1988 Thanks! Confession has been the game changer for me, I still live with tremendous guilt, but through friendship and a 12 step program, I'm working my way back towards the light. I appreciate your kind words, never stop being a positive light in the world.

@@Neb-ie5mj Totally understand about the tremendous guilt. Keep going!

100%

can you give an example that was not addressed in his speach?

@@marcoz5857 - the degradation and humiliation of porn, the abuse that is inherent in the industry, the objectification of women as toys to use, the immaturity of men who think porn is harmless, the fact that is just another addiction, I could go on for pages. Prager makes it seem like women are just worried that their husbands likes the porn star better. His views on how men and women view sexuality are also very limited.

@@deirdrefinnegan5436 yea, i think the discussion was a little more sophisticated than how you are presenting it in your comment.

@@marcoz5857 - Well, good for you! We disagree.

On porn, yes, at the beginning, no. I don't see what's so bad about lingerie in the context of marriage.

​@@coolpilot5694 I'm more concerned with what he said about pedophiles jerking off to animated CP. Any respect he had left there was flushed straight down the toilet.

When will Christians realize their their views are never going to align with a Jew or Muslim or Hindu, etc. Debating as if common ground can be found is ludicrous. Just accept the fact that the beliefs are different and treat one another with respect, it's really not that complicated.

@@missnthrop5763 I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this one. In terms of religious people vs. atheists, it would make sense for the differences to be nearly absolute. But when one half of the Bible is the Torah, Jews and Christians are going to necesarily have a lot of overlap in views.

@@coolpilot5694 Jews don't follow the Torah, they follow the Talmud. Look at what Jesus says about Talmudim. These people rejected Christ and followed the Talmud and the Pharasees for 2000 years, there are consequences to rejecting truth

Amen! Agreed. This really increased my respect in Matt and his ability to have a heated, respectful discussion while maintaining his convictions for moral truth.

Y’all have a huge blind spot when it comes to sex within marriage, though. To call even the use of contraception somehow “objectification” does not logically follow whatsoever. It’s a huge equivocation and Matt just glosses over it without acknowledging the flaw in reasoning

​@@bluesdealer You're purposefully and actively going against God's will. If you block the process of creation, you are always rejecting the will of God in the sexual act. If you use contraception you turn sex into only an act of pleasure/bond and you get rid of God's ability to create and give life. It would be like giving a potter clay but taking his water so he can't use the clay to make a vase, you're purposefully trying to counteract God's will of creating. Also every Protestant church always believed contraception was a sin until about the 1930s and the sexual revolution. Now almost no Protestants believe contraception is a sin.

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100% glad you found the Church and got out of that.

God bless you.

I’m more and more impressed with Matt the more I watch him. He has such a gift for engaging in conversation and debate regardless of his own views. Here is he of course actually arguing his own beliefs as he disagrees with Dennis. However, Matt is also great as prodding and posing difficult questions to those he agrees with as well. He’s a great thinker!

He's strong because of the intelligence of his Faith

Or she didn't give much of a hoot about her husband and so didn't care what he did. Just because a marriage lasts for decades, it doesn't mean it was all that good.

Sorry, but that just simply isn't true. Thoughts are not the equivalent to actions. We all have thoughts about doing bad things sometimes but we use our moral agency and reasoning to stop ourselves from doing them. Obviously there is a difference between the man who thinks about murdering someone and the man who actually murders someone. This is why we don't have thought crime legislation; because we recognize that those two things are not equivalent.

@@BlGGESTBROTHER : 1. The person who never thinks about murdering is VERY UNLIKELY to murder. 2. The person who has an intrusive thought about it once in a while is SOMEWHAT UNLIKELY to murder. 3. The person who HABITUALLY FANTASIZES about murder is VERY LIKELY to murder!!!! @danielcartwright8868 you’re right, I was thinking that when Dennis was talking about how he doesn’t care if people dislike Jews (or other group) only how they treat them- as if fostering those thoughts/views isn’t eventually going to lead to their logical conclusion 🤯

​@@BlGGESTBROTHERPlease take time to watch police interrogations of murderers, pedophiles and violent criminals. You will hear the majority of them convey these acts began as simple thoughts, then obsessive thoughts and fantasy, then for some research, then for some planning and finally acting out. It always begins with a thought.

​@@kg9409 I went for years fantasizing about murdering an individual, even planning it out in my head. Needless to say, it never went beyond the realm of my mind...

@@kg9409 If that were true, then video games should have created the biggest epidemic of mass murderers in world history.

I still struggle with porn and it's been really bad for my marriage. I don't think Prager understands the consequences of his words or of justifying porn.

The jewish revolutionary spirit is always subversive. Thank you so much Matt for standing up to him and take his mask off for everyone to see

Same it's nothing to bragging about. I've said it hundreds of times because I objectively want it to be felt as compelled evidence by my testimony and obviously male. It is 99% male practically. Realistically who suffer more. There's atheists that can seemingly abandoned pornography and realize that it's harmful but I don't know if it's easier or harder for them withought God. But since I've been a 11 year old male pornography up to age 20 has all since then destroyed my life. I've never felt the sexual touch of a female. My mother by proxy of course being brithed and I guess other than my father in moments of procreation. I'm strange but I don't think so. Although sin has corrupted me I realize that Jesus Christ has made me whole..and atheist conservativitism is thievery from and against Christianity! I feel compassionate regardless with any male who *realizes pornography is more than evil but Malevolent!* I'm not a female so I wouldn't really typical care so much because as logically as I think about it..if males consumption of pornography are reduced then actually I automatically advocate for females who also wouldn't become so abused. Nor would males from any human also sexually abused. Amen it's hard to kill pornography. And lust. But I'm gonna do what Jesus CHRIST SAID AND THAT'S TO STARVE HUMAN BODY AND PRAY!!! Christianity is to be taken seriously! I'm no longer willing wanting to exist *withought* Serious Action. And prayer. A shame prayer has been taken out of public school. Indeed a objectively mistake which proves to be true a error. Church and state are harmful. Since thousands Christian churches have closed. Ironically proven to be truly harmful to Christianity. Atheism and islam false. Wether they love it or not. God demands we look for truth. And it's very lame I don't see Giants of Christianity going after the most hateful religious tenants of atheism! Every aspect of human nature has a religion. Atheism is no different..they believe in God the Christian subconsciously and of course because they hate him so easily proven. And also although they acknowledge he exists withought knowing it outwardly with words and thoughts by partly thinking how loving he is. They worship other smaller gods of course. Loki thor movies. Irony is everything bad evil Malevolent and everywhere. Pornography though in the objective eyes of man as it should become a Malevolent goddess of death. That demon will be slayed at which time Heaven will become on earth! Amen!

Then you were not living by what Prager is saying. He's anti porn. You just, as do many uniformed people reading your comment, want to hate him.

​@@talostheking8529he may very well. But you cant trust jews, they preach one thing and do the other

Totally unsurprising

I’m not that shocked by it. Did you know that a rabbi owns PornHub? Look it up if you don’t believe me. Jews love pornography.

I'm not shocked at all.

He's disgusting I feel sorry for his wife

@@Sunshine-bh1ww I've lost respect for him.

I guess all we can do is speculate. But I would assume that Prager would be in the better position to observe than any of us. Cheers!

@@zapazap, you have really no idea how much hurt a woman can disguise for the love of a man…especially in the time period they would have been living…

@@OneSparrow-76 It is still sheer speculation that hurt was a factor in this case. Also, is not 'disguising' here a species of 'lying'? Cheers!

@@OneSparrow-76 Friends: it is not amazing how much a person can presume to know about someone they never met? Cheers!

I had the same thought. A child is not equipped to really accurately observe the feelings of his parents. His mother may have tolerated it BECAUSE she loved her husband and simply didnt want to wreck her family. But as a married woman, I would struggle to believe any woman would really not care at all, Christian, Jew, or otherwise.

A very sad truth

Don’t think that is what Prager said or means. He said at the end, IDEALLY he agree with the host, he is just more realistic.

@@longwing2011 No. Realistic is knowing that animated child porn leads to real child porn which then leads to child rape. Stop trying to defend the Synagogue of Satan.

Amen!

Amen 💜💜💜

Each person has their own challenges. I'm sure many husbands have a way that captivates others, however, I understand your point and I also appreciate Matt. Also, being fortunate to have a remarkable partner probably goes both ways! :)

Maybe more than a fool! I wouldn’t let him babysit my kids, let’s put it that way.

Yep. That was horrific.

What's crazy is that it's AI animation of real life photos that people post on their social media, of their children, it's grafted onto the AI. Then the perps can graft their images onto the adult in the scene. Pretty disgusting stuff. Also, the majority of dudes who watch this stuff move on to real life r*ping of children.

I just started watching the video and came here for that clip and part. Could you timestamp it for me please?

If porn is evil then what is fornication / adultery. What is more evil watching a crime movie or committing a crime.

​@@viodsa also evil

Censorship is worse.

@@viodsa Both are equally evil in the eyes of God. Enough with whataboutism.

​@@Thagomizer So the laws punishing you if you murder or robber someone is censorship now. Banning Porn would not be censorship, it would be the most sane and correct act.

Dennis fighting hard to justify lusting after women other than his wife. His poor wife

Basically because his daddy did it.. so it’s justified

@@cgggg5988 Well, the guy has been married three times. Is it three? Multiple times. But to be fair, he has verbally said he was shameful of his past divorces. As flawed as his thinking is, it is better to have Dennis Prager on "our" side than someone who shrugs their shoulders and either advocates for modern sex and sexuality, or gently supports it because "whatever you ain't hurting anyone."

@@TickleMeElmo55 I don’t consider Dennis on my side after this debate. He was already on the edge following Judaism.

@@thomasthellamas9886 and so? Are you crazy?

What about the dignity of MEN? Circumcision is male genital mutilation and men don't even own their own penises. We're treated like masochistic beasts of burden and many people do not even care - just seeing men as tools to use, and when they have dysfunctions, we shame and blame them. Circumcision. Genital mutilation. It's misandrist mutilation that needs to be banned on minors. The film, "American Circumcision", by Brendon Marotta, needs to be viewed en masse, too. A preverbal somatic trauma, an adverse childhood event. Look up Dr. Peter Levine of Somatic Experiencing, Irene Lyon, Gabor Mate - what you do to babies matter. This country mutilates boys' genitals then asks them to fight and die and sacrifice for it? Men and boys are treated like slaves and boys are trained form birth to be masochistic blue pilled beasts of burden. Mutilate a boy's genitals, then force him into Selective Service as an extra "thank you". Such "Liberty and Freedom". What bullshit. Foregen is a biotech company that is reversing circumcision with regenerative medicine. Look them up. ~12-14 sq. inches of densely innervated highly erogenous healthy tissue. Over 6500 species of mammals have foreskins. These animals don't make soap, have running water or live in the suburbs - dogs, bats and whales do not suffer. European men, Japanese men, the majority of the world's men do not suffer. MEN SHOULD OWN THEIR OWN COCKS. Circumcision is male genital mutilation, a human rights violation that degrades and reduces sexual pleasure. Foregen, within the next year will have fully reverse circumcision with regenerative medicine. The underlying technology is already approved, phase 2 of 3 animal trials is almost concluded, phase 3 of 3 human trials starts soon, and well over $1 Million dollars and counting have been donated with many loyal monthly donors. BOYS SHOULD OWN THEIR OWN COCKS. Americans need to learn how to take care of intact baby boys. They're not dirty. The foreskin is fused to the head of the penis at birth, many in the USA do not know that, even healthcare "professionals", so they forcibly retract the foreskin and cause a tear in the baby boy's foreskin which is painful, causes bleeding, injury, scar tissue, an a higher likelihood of phimosis, inability for the foreskin to retract at a later age because of the scar tissue making the foreskin less elastic. By age 7, 40% of USA boys have been forcibly retracted and injured! (Source: Intact America website) AMERICAN IGNORANCE CAUSES FORESKIN ISSUES. Europe knows better, they know that the foreskin is fused to the head of the penis until around age 10.5 on average, it is there to protect the penis like the girl's hymen protects her vaginal canal from waste products like urine and feces. The foreskin is adhered to the glans head of the penis like the nail is adhered to the finger. USA healthcare workers are NOT TAUGHT THIS, they are taught that boys ought to be mutilated because they are dirty. American ignorance causes foreskin issues. Further, the inside of the foreskin has the same cells as the inside of the eyelids, mouth and vagina - the inner mucosal lining. You do NOT use soap, that disrupts the pH balance because soap is basic, and the inner mucosal lining is slightly acidic. This also dries out the inner mucosal lining and causes irritation and foreskin issues! AMERICAN IGNORANCE from forcible retraction and the use of soap is the problem. You only clean what is seen, and with lukewarm water. Women do not use soap inside of the vagina. Americans are ignorant about the male anatomy and most men do not know what they are missing in this country. It's uncomfortable, but we need to end this garbage.

Defending the dignity? Women have continuously voted to do away with shame so that they could pretend to have dignity no matter how depraved they act.

Amen. He represented the Christian viewpoint well.

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We just need to stop women abusing their brothers by exploiting mens sexual weakness.. Why would a woman show herself naked to a brother? They knowingly exploit mens weakness for their own enrichment... That's not loving their brother, that's exploiting their brothers natural tendencies to want sex--Women should STOP IT!