Heresy 

Father Josiah has been a gift from God to me in my life. He along with several others on this platform brought me home.

I started my Orthodox journey a few months ago. Your videos have given me hope. I have been involved with Protestantism for a great deal of my married life. But I have always read my bible for the last 44 years and I have come to the realization of the heresy of Protestantism and this video has confirmed my recent discoveries. I will no longer champion the destructive lies I once believed. Thank you father.

Thank you, father, this is eye opening!

"Rock & Sand" is a great book.

"If only I was younger." That line is so powerful. 😭

So timely thanks Father! ☦️

So timely indeed! Thank you for defending the Orthodox faith and preaching the truth Father

Спасибо отец Иосия за слово! Хочу поделится свой радостью. Я в детстве был эстонским лютеранином, прошел конфирмацию. В 16 лет всей семьей перешли в Православие, но бабушка не захотела этого и осуждала нас за предательство веры. Спустя 15 лет перед смерью бабуша устала от лекарств и отказалась их есть. Мама пригласила лютеранского пастора для того чтоб он ее приободрил и сказал что нужно принимать помощь врачей. После его ухода мама опять поговорила с бабушкой и она согласилась принять Православие. Теперь я имею счастье молится соборно о душе бабушки Музе. Слава Богу!

Interesting talk; content that I will most earnestly and sincerely consider. After having served as a Protestant pastor and missionary (Russia 1992-1996), for 23 years, I left pastoral ministry in 2015. My formal education was in biblical studies and Greek. For the past few months I’ve picked up my Greek New Testament and also have read extensively writings from the Church fathers. For the past 9 years I’ve been adrift, so to speak. While there are a number of theological barriers that I’ve yet to overcome, Orthodoxy has a definite appeal to my heart. Please pray that the issues that I am dealing with be resolved in my heart and mind. Sincere respect and humble gratitude.

Excellent and very timely presentation of this topic Father. Thank you! Glory to God!

Father bless. I hope you understand the impact that your videos have on the Internet. There’s so much garbage on the Internet. It’s so refreshing to be educated by you about the body of Christ and other stuff About our faith.Thank you so very much. May God grant you many years.

According of Church’s Fathers the heresy is lepers of soul . Thanks Fr.🙏☦️

ANATHEMA to all heresy.

Thank you Father Josiah, great sermon.

Thank you for sharing this wisdom, as always, Father, and God bless! 🙏☦

Thank you Fr.Josiah Trenham for the continuous encouragement and inspiration 🙏🏼 ☦️

Thank you, Fr. Josiah! I’m a recent convert to Orthodoxy from Roman Catholicism. God is using you and Dr Eugenia Constantinou teaching our faith in easy to understand with references to the Bible, oral tradition, church fathers.

Father thank you I truly need to hear this

Always appreciative for your teachings, insights and encouragements...may God continue to strengthen your spirit and resolve 🙏☦️♥️

My friend told me once: "What is a heresy? It's just a disagreement with the Dogma." I laughed, because I knew that it's more than that and, since then, started to think about that topic. It is a more interesting theme than I thought it was.

Amen Glory to God

The hierarchy of the Anglican communion, unfortunately particularly the Archbishop of Canterbury could do with giving this one a listen.

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When you look 👀 at the Orthodox Church ⛪️ you only see the authenticity of the ancient church. With all the traditions and languages it is traced back to how the church would have been, with all love and respect to Roman Christian’s I pray you come back to the original apostolic Catholic faith😢

Father Josiah's homilies are case studies in the superiority of Christianity. Christianity challenges each person to adopt a higher way of living. Christianity confronts the world and announces the sins of the world, boldly, but without violence and criminality. Christianity announces the sins of each person and demands that they admit those sins and apologize for those sins and commit themselves to a different way of living in the name of Christ, who Christians believe was God among us. There is nothing else like this on Earth, and it seeks something wholly different from all other belief systems and in a totally different way.

1 Cor 11-19, wow that speaks to our age.

I would be very happy if these episodes would be uploaded to spotify or apple podcasts

The Confessions.

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Great video Father! Would you like to make a video about Matthew 24? A lot of atheist online are using that chapter in such bad ways I think it would be really good to clear things out (when it is talking about the end of times or about the siege of Jerusalim 70 A.D and so on)

heresy=heresis=αίρεσις=air.....everything but the Truth=Jesus Christ

Thessalonians 2 10 And in all the deceit of injustice among those who were dispossessed, because they did not receive the love of the truth to save them;11 And for this reason may God send them the energy of error in that you believe them in a lie,12 That all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but rejoiced in unrighteousness13 And we ought to thank God always for you, brothers beloved by the Lord, because God chose you from the beginning for salvation in the sanctification of the Spirit and the faith of truth,14 to which he called you through our gospel for the care of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.15 Therefore, brothers, stand up and keep the traditions that you were taught either by word or by our letter.

I have wondered that myself aftter 35 years or so.

I have a lot of respect for Father Josiah and enjoy much of this content, as we share many of the same values, but I think the issue I have is that if Orthodoxy is the one and only means of salvation, why hasn't the EOC done more in the way of evangelism. To your churches credit, many of them recognize this shortcoming but it still begs the question. As with most Americans, I come from a long line of devout Protestants, many of whom spreading the Gospel is central to the faith. So for a church to make the claim as the one and only, and have such a relatively small history/impact of outreach compared to Protestants and Catholics. Well, the disconnect is obvious. Also, if you truly believe, this, I would recommend a push to get your people to invite others to an EOC service...outside of their own ethnic communities. Something you'll never see lacking in the Protestant/Evangelical side of the fence. The message I get from looking at this as well as other EOC content is more of a "come and find us but don't expect an invitation and the onus is all on you" no matter the distance or lack of ethic diversity (apparently this is an issue with many congregations and the welcome is not always a warm one - again, getting this from the honest feedback of some of your fellow EOC content providers). Let me end this by saying, there's a great deal I admire about your faith. There is an obvious beauty and historicity to it. And I don't doubt it has produced many great heroes of the Christian faith. But this question has always bothered me when I hear claims such as the one made here. Blessings.

Im a Lutheran, but i actually have a lot respect for Orthodoxy

Father, Im not Christian but I appreciate your work. However, adding a bit more context for those of us who didnt grow up with Christianity would greatly increase our (my) understanding. Thank you again!

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The fact that iconoclasm persisted for 150 years makes one think about the people that lived during that time: multiple generations were born, baptized, lived, and died during that period and would have been taught and simply assumed that iconoclasm was the tradition of the church and not heresy. Hindsight is 20/20.

There are many heresies, but ecumenism is the greatest!

We are not "protestingsting'

I’m a very picky eater and only eat meat. I work a laborious job and am a catechumen. I’m struggling with the idea of lent I want to participate but I’m worried if I give up meat and dive into fasting I’ll be in trouble.

@patristicnectarfilms can you make a video about the 1991 agreement where the Antiochian Synod went into communion with the monophysites. Some Antiochian priests are adamant that they are in communion with the monophysites. Some are not. I was personally extremely heart broken when I found out about this.

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Thank you father for your reflection, I’m not sure if you take questions here, I am really torn at what entails heresy, the confusion comes because I thought the following is heresy but seeing that our church is allowing it because of economy, not sure what to believe. Here in Australia, some of our Antiochian orthodox churches are communing the Maronites (this is a RC sect under the see of Rome) who are married or linked by marriage to our Orthodox brethren. If our leaders are allowing this, then is it not heresy? Yet communion with schismatic churches is known to be heretic because it’s outside of communion in truth. lol please help!

St. Theodore the Studite (9th C.): “Regarding the Faith, the heretics were utterly shipwrecked; but concerning the others, even if in their thinking they did not founder, nevertheless, on account of their communion with heresy, they too were destroyed alongside the others.” (Epistles, Bk. 2, “Epistle 15, To the Patriarch of Jerusalem,” PG 99:1164AB)

Hello Father, and thank you for this overview. My difficulty is in the fact that while I now embrace Orthodox theology, the EOC considers me Prelest due to a vision of Christ I experienced in 2010. I later wrote a book about my experience and now teach prophecy from the Bible online. While I am no longer Protestant and would like to join the EOC, I cannot because I am considered Prelest. Do you (or anyone) have any thoughts on my situation that you might want to share? God bless.

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Heresy is stronger than Falsity, because Heresy is falsity applied to spiritual things.

Are there any videos that explain what the "faith" actually is? What does one have to believe in to be "saved"?

Father, can you do a commentary on the break away group called the TOC (True Orthodox) that split from ROCOR about 15 years ago when unification with Moscow Patriach occurred. Half my family follow this breakaway church and have disowned me and it's caused me so much pain and grief. They accuse me of being a heretic but we beleive them to be the misguided ones. We still love them but they show only anger or silence in return. I go to ROCOR and SOC churches as my husband is Serbian Orthodox. They have intense hatred for my choice to stay with ROCOR and my husband. I can't understand the issued and why they think I'm damned to hell for staying with the main Orthodox church. It's so painful. I feel that their actions which lack any Christian love is not beneficial even if they believe themselves to be in the correct church. I'm so confused what to do. I can't leave my church to join them - I don't believe they are correct. Please explain more... I know many families in Australia like mine that still suffer abandonment from their relatives and it's very very distressing. Are we all Orthodox or is the TOC now considered heretics?

I’m stuck between Roman Catholicism and orthodoxy Catholicism.

“Lutheranism” and “Calvinism” were pejoratives applied by the Church of Rome when it was resisting being reformed of its own heresies. Lutherans called themselves Evangelicals and Calvinists called themselves Reformed, and both saw their own beliefs as catholic and orthodox.

I understand what you’re saying, but I’m honestly confused as to why you single out Luther. Chemnitz, Luther, Melanchthon, and other reformers had even attempted to reunite with the East. Lutherans are only called that because after 100 years of being called Lutherans as a pejorative term the name stuck. Confessional Lutheranism is way closer to Orthodoxy than Roman Catholicism. As someone who grew up Presbyterian as well I have been open to becoming Orthodox, but am becoming an LCMS Lutheran. I genuinely don’t understand why there is such antipathy towards a tradition which reintroduced Eastern Fathers into the conversation in the West. I completely understand that part of the orthodox perspective is that the visible church is an important boundary between us theologically, but I really don’t understand why people are treated like half brothers in Christ instead of full brothers. Shouldn’t it be based upon our love for God and for one another? There really is very little that I can’t fully assent to about Orthodoxy. I just don’t think the attitude of anathematizing people who I know for a fact Christ has transformed. I don’t think that’s a crazy position to take.

Thank you Father, yes just like Ecumenism the new Heresy

Wouldn't heresy be anything that God and Jesus did not support, such as saved by grace/faith without works and without obedience to God's commandments, praying to statues, praying to anyone other than God, and claiming transubstantiation?

Heresy is difficult to define or pin down, but this much can be said with confidence: Pretty much EVERTHING that passes for Christianity today is Heresy,

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How is it you would describe the status of salvation for people who live being deceived under heresies such as Calvinism, Charismatics, etc? Even though they worship God through a corrupted faith, it seems that God still works through them even if they fully do not understand. For we shall know them by their fruits, for God calls us to believe in Him and Jesus's sacrifice, to be baptized, and to live and be in Christ. Lest, Orthodoxy would claim to the same aberrations of Calvinism, that some were predestined to Hell--those who were never exposed to Orthodoxy.

Fr Josiah, realised that you have done videos on BOTH Martin Luthers in recent weeks. 😂

I respect your content Father. Do you truly believe that people who dutifully attempt to dedicate their life to Christ but who come to a different logical conclusion on dogmatic interpretation are “not saved”? This would seem antithetical to Christ’s teachings that intent of the heart to do right and follow God are primary to any designation or claimed sect.

Thank you. Is it possible to be orthodox in terms of belief and practice, while also being part of a Protestant/evangelical church? There are people who are Christ-like in how they treat others, loving people in a way that reflects Jesus. Maybe they don’t have the title “Orthodox” with a capital O, but in practice they live the true faith. I know people who are capital O Orthodox, yet come off as cold towards others and indifferent to the suffering. I myself belong to multiple church communities, both Orthodox and evangelical. While my theological leanings are generally towards what would be considered orthodoxy, I’m also connected to evangelicals who share 99.9% of the same beliefs of Jesus. That .1% of difference is on debatable issues (roles for women in the church, holy days) We’re all still learning together to better know and understand Jesus and reflect Him to the world around us.

Why are people saying it is timely? What happened?

God bless. Don't visit Meteora just very soon. :(

Why exactly is Martin Luther considered a heretic in Eastern Orthodoxy?

I think it's easier to follow sound doctrine than consider all the heresies. Saint John of Damascus lists 103 heresies giving some of them alternative names which they are also known. This was more than 1000 years before nihilism which sounds a bit like the first one "barbarism". Barbarism was a heresy where man would live by his own will alone. Nihilism denies God's existence therefore leaving man to only his own will. IMHO

Heresy is any belief or theory that strongly opposes established beliefs or customs, particularly the accepted beliefs or religious law of a religious organization. Within Christianity, it is any belief or practice that explicitly undermines the gospel. It is a threat to the unity and orthodoxy of the faith, and historically, the identification and condemnation of heresies have played a significant role in shaping the development of Christian theology. Learn the Greek definition of heresy, biblical and historical examples, and the difference between heresy and blasphemy. According to Easton's Bible Dictionary, the word heresy comes from a Greek word, meaning a self-chosen opinion or the sect holding that opinion. Heresies came to be understood as self-chosen doctrines that do not originate from God.

Father...some brevity, please.

The Orthodox Church or churches accepted the Filioque for use by the Western Church, as a response to heresy denying the divinity of the Holy Spirit in the seventh and eighth centuries. Sometimes it was an issue, sometimes it wasn't. Yet, one cannot read the farewell dialogs in John 15 and 16 without recognizing that it is a valid understanding, especially when the Catholic Church has acknowledged that the source of the Holy Spirit is the Father and procession, when it comes to Christ, does not mean as the source, but it would accept the understanding of proceeds through the Son. When Jesus breathed on the disciples and said, “receive the Holy Spirit" seems like a slam dunk to me. Now could it have been handled differently? Yes, that's a different argument. In fact, at the time of the schism in 1054 no one on either side thought it would be permanent. There was great cooperation during the initial crusades and the continued schism was political more than religious. Attempts at reunification happened and even when agreed to by the bishops of the entire eastern church ended up being negated by one Eastern bishop. If the pope had done that you would claim invalid primacy, yet if a single bishop does that in the east it's okay? Similarly, the Orthodox constantly claim heresy when the Western Church defines anything. Purgatory is a heresy. Yet the Orthodox Church maintains that there is a place or state of purification where the soul will benefit from prayer. Original sin the way Catholics explain it is heresy to them. The Orthodox maintain that original sin brought death and separated man from God. Catholics of course would not disagree. Simply a different understanding based upon culture but with the same result. Now, if the Catholic Church had stated that Jesus was the source of the Trinity or abrogated the order of the Trinity, that would be a different story. If the Catholic Church denied the divinity of any members of the Holy Trinity, denied baptism, denied holy orders, denied the requirement of faith and works for Salvation, or denied any number of dogmatic principles that are agreed upon by the East and the West then I would understand. The Orthodox will resort to “it's a mystery” When they want to refute a Catholic definition. But the Orthodox argue about terminology, or the attempt to use a word to define something. For instance, the Orthodox believe that the bread and wine are transformed into the body and blood of Jesus. The Catholics believe the same. Yet, add the word transubstantiation and the Orthodox cry heresy. It is simply a word that the West used to define a transformation that was taking place. Such is the difference I guess between the East and the West culturally. But it is not a cause for schism. Especially not when considered in the light of the paragraphs below. I would like to reference the Jerusalem Synod of the Orthodox Church of 1672, called because the ecumenical patriarch was in heresy and had become a Protestant. The beliefs as stated are identical to those of the Catholic Church. In terms of the Eucharist: "Further, that in every part, or the smallest division of the transmuted bread and wine there is not a part of the Body and Blood of the Lord - for to say so were blasphemous and wicked - but the entire whole Lord Christ substantially, that is, with His Soul and Divinity, or perfect God and perfect man. This is just an example., transmuted, not transubstantiated, so one is okay and the other is Heresy. But wait, it gets better. A little later in the paragraph it reads: "the bread of the Prothesis* set forth in all the several Churches, being changed and transubstantiated, becomes, and is, after consecration, one and the same with That in the Heavens." Oh my goodness, the word transubstantiated. The difference in the word is only a difference in the tense. So how is it now a heresy if the Orthodox church never changes its teaching? Now let's get to that pesky purgatory. That same council said the following: "And the souls of those involved in mortal sins, who have not departed in despair but while still living in the body, though without bringing forth any fruits of repentance, have repented - by pouring forth tears, by kneeling while watching in prayers, by afflicting themselves, by relieving the poor, and finally by showing forth by their works their love towards God and their neighbor, and which the Catholic Church has from the beginning rightly called satisfaction - [their souls] depart into Hades, and there endure the punishment due to the sins they have committed. But they are aware of their future release from there, and are delivered by the Supreme Goodness, through the prayers of the Priests, and the good works which the relatives of each do for their Departed" Ok, so they don't call it purgatory. And a descripcion of exactly what the Catholic Church teaches is called heresy because it is called purgatory. The fact is the hypocrisy of the Orthodox Church is glaring. Now, you are concerned about heresy regarding the above issues, which I have shown are really non-issues. Let's look at another issue. I believe you at some point in this video or another discuss Hesychasm. Let's look at the writings of St Gregory Palamus, who claimed the Cappadocian Fathers agreed with him but there is no evidence of this. We are not talking about the procession of the Holy Spirit here. We are talking about the very nature of God. He separates God's Essence from his Energies in a way that goes against the Council of Nicaea. Against opposition he also describes the Essence of God lying above and a divinity or Godhead that is lower. If this is not absolute heresy I don't know what is. He also stated that those who have obtained spiritual and supernatural grace have become entirely God. He went so far as to say that those who attain it become uncreated. This even caused the chief opponent of his, who wrote against papal primacy, to convert to Roman Catholicism and become a Catholic Bishop. Yet despite this obvious heresy the Roman church has not condemned Orthodoxy for it. Why? Because despite differences in understanding these are teachings which although heterodox will not affect the salvation of the souls of the faithful. Neither will the filioque. And that is a lot more in keeping with traditional Catholic Orthodox thought than St Gregory. But where are the Orthodox now? There is a schism between the Russian Orthodox Church and the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople. You have no head. Therefore you have no church, you have churches. There is not an organization that has ever been conceived that does not have a head. While Christ is the head of the church he established a temporal head of the church for the purpose of preventing such problems. There is no power within the temporal church in Orthodoxy to call a council, to resolve the dispute between the ecumenical patriarch and the Russian Orthodox Patriarch, and it seems to be more like fighting children than a church. Yes we do have problems in the Catholic Church. Pope Francis is not my favorite pope, I will tell you that. I do agree that there have been a lot of abuses in the church since Vatican II, not as a result directly of Vatican II, but mainly because of the social context in the West in which it occurred. But The Pope has the power to put the German bishops in their place and to keep the church united in a much more effective manner than the Orthodox Church has been able to. The much anticipated Pan- Orthodox Council of 2016 amounted to a lot of infighting and disagreement and really resulted in nothing, except for some Orthodox claiming that the ecumenical patriarch was trying to act like a pope. Furthermore the Russian Orthodox Patriarch has declared the Russian attack on Ukraine as a holy war. He has claimed sole jurisdiction in Ukraine. I don't see anything like this happening in the Catholic Church. There is plenty to criticize about the Orthodox Church or churches, and a true study shows that it has not maintained the faith exactly as promulgated in the Great councils. It has maintained the outward look of piety and orthodoxy but has as many problems as the Catholic Church. However, these criticisms do not make the Orthodox Church invalid. Your criticisms do not make the Catholic Church invalid either. God bless.

I Thanks many times to God for Martin Luther & Calvin ! He used them for such a big Revive of the Christian faith!

You quote pope benedict and yet say protestants have no connection to orthodoxy. The church in germany followed luther, the church in england followed cramer and others. The RCC and OCC love to say that protestants have no connection with catholicism. But we came out of Rome. And classical protestants looked to the fathers and scripture to reform the errors that were in Rome. So to say we have no connection is a play on words. We, as classical protestsnts, hold to catholicity. Other than that, love your work.

Thank You fathers 🙏🙏🙏Amen,Amen,Amen

So if you believe a heresy your not saved?

Habakkuk 3:9 Thy bow was made quite naked (bare), according to the oaths of the tribes (oaths were sworn over your arrows), even thy word. Selah. Thou didst cleave (divided) the earth with rivers. 💘

These are grumblers, complainers, walking according to their own lusts; and they mouth great swelling words, flattering people to gain advantage. But you, beloved, remember the words which were spoken before by the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ: how they told you there would be mockers in the last time who would walk according to their own ungodly lusts. Jude 16-18

What is heresy? Calvinism

Don't you think there should be a St.Martin.. the Lutheran..or a Holiday Always a 3 dayer..Lent and the season reason..of about the Son..glory be...

I am moving farther and farther from the Evangelical traditions and teachings as they just make very little Greek sense. I am reaching out as I want to belong to The Church of course of Christ but I Am a carful studier and have some questions of Orthodoxy. I know you have traditions that are even considered as holy. I would have little problem with them as long as they don't contradict scripture. I am not like a Calvinist as I know even the bible never calls itself 'undefileable' (probably not a word LoL). I see the salvation message in evangelicalism looking more and more ridiculous the more I study the holy scriptures. I have often told pastors and even bible scholars in my Pentecostal church that they handle salvation like if it were the canvas to a painting their so called 'Romans Road to salvation' is like using a paint roller and ruining the canvas, meaning its sloppy and uncareful. However I do favor Pelagius over 'saint' Augustine's teachings on the 'original sin'. I also don't understand how Orthodoxy still calls leaders 'father' even though Jesus said in Matthew 23:9, 'call no man father'. I sure hope context is not brought up as it seems if Jesus says "don't do X" to anything, context is irrelevant. I side with Orthodoxy on most everything else as I also have the same problems with the Roman Catholic issues that Orthodoxy does.

Martin Luther would never have wanted a denomination named after him whereas Calvin probably would have. Luther himself said he would prefer all his works to be destroyed except for his Catechism and his Bible translation into German. Luther probably would have led many people to Orthodoxy if he had lived longer. He was not a willful heretic wanting a following or a name for himself and rebelling against the Church. He should not be labelled a willful heretic and the "leader" of Protestant denominationalism. Many people who are protestant know nothing about Orthodoxy -- we should not call them names or put them all into one pot because many are indeed seeking God and want to live for Him, and He is bringing them to Orthodoxy. I will always be grateful for Martin Luther's help in my life and many older Protestant authors prior to becoming Orthodox. Many were very godly minded, even tho' they were not Orthodox -- I never followed modern authors while I knew nothing of Orthodoxy. I have observed, however, that many Orthodox to do not follow the sober ways taught in Orthodoxy; many are just as worldly and material minded as many unbelievers. People dress very casually in church, women often don't wear decent, modest clothes for church or head - coverings; many don't attend regularly or arrive on time, and their understanding of spiritual matters is shallow at best, yet they are considered "okay" because they are Orthodox. Isn't this a type of heresy? Heresy manifests itself in varying ways, doesn't it, not only in doctrine but also in practise?

I was view number 666! Yikes! 😂

Heresy is the choice, the authentic, correct one. How Eve acquired knowledge by listening to the suggestion of the Nahash and Ham was the seed of the great civilizations of Egypt and Mesopotamia, revealing to his brothers the idiocy of his father, and above all the heresy of the master Jesus Christified, who hurled the fire of his indignation not against idolatry but against the Pharisees, followers and architects of the Jewish religious and national restoration, enemies of the Hellenic spirit and worshipers of the perverse and criminal god: "You have stolen the key to knowledge". Luke 11.52. Some monks had understood it, wake up brother.

I'm very intruiged by the Orthodox church. I grew up catholic, fell away for 30 years, was born again 3 years ago. Since then I'm searching for my "spiritual home", my flock, "my" people. There a couple of orthodox priests online I really like, especially Mar Mari Emmanuel or father Spyridon Bailey. I even visited the only German(speaking)-Orthodox monastery last year and stayed there for a few days. That being said: I see a LOT wrong with the Orthodox church, and I'm sad about it. Isn't it a heresy, to idolize an organisation of men? To be followers of rules, invented and shaped by the ideas a mere mortals? Rather then a follower of Jesus? A disciple of the most high? I'm very traditional and I like rituals and incense and all of that style - I just can't see it as sound biblical teaching. Nothing like the sacraments are mentioned in the Bible. Not even baptism is of THAT importance, especially not, if you can't decide for yourself. Sacraments and participating in them does not save your soul. That is false unbiblical teaching. And if you want to argue, that there are more writings, more very wise people, having contributed to how it looks today (and for a long time), then you say, these people are as important as the Apostles. Somehow a John Chistostomos is the same as Paul? Konstantin made the faith in the Jewish massiah a Roman thing. So Roman paganism merged with messianic Judaism, that's why there are more important people Orthodox and Romans pray to, other then God. Jwes were pushed out of the picture (anti-semitism) É voilá - very similar witchcraft and occultism continued. "You will be assimilated, resistance is futile." That is how the world, the apparatus, the machine, the enemy does it. It's nothing new. I pretty much gave up looking for some "leader" or "father" (look up if you should call any human that) on the internet or anywhere else outside scripture. It is ONLY that way, I can get the answers God want's you to have. Of course, I need to be honest, challenge myself, question my own believes and motives.

All Protestantism is not heretical. And not all Eastern Orthodoxy is free of heresy.

So you equivocate disobedience with the group with disobedience of Christ. Jesus came to the seven churches and said he had something against them. With your teaching the people in those churches would just have to obey the church, and therefore, error Christ. You support collective error. This is why The Catholic church is not the Bride of Christ, she's one of the virgins with the lamp. If you place your hope in her, your oil will run out. But you don't care about this, you just care about political union.

To reference arch-heretic Pope Benedict (2:03) as some sort of authority on the subject matter of heresies is oxymoron, me thinks...

Matthew 23:9 Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. One of the biggest heresy that occurred was during the Second Council of Nicaea in AD 787 when the Catholic church required the veneration of icons. Now the veneration of icons is not only a common practice; it is specifically taught by both Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches. Back when they were the same church and had not yet divided from each other, the Second Council of Nicaea mandated the veneration of icons (also called “iconodulia”). The Second Council of Nicaea (abbreviated as “Nicaea II”) took place in AD 787, decided that anyone who doesn’t venerate icons is to be anathema, or excommunicated from Christ’s church. Here’s what those bishops said: Therefore all those who dare to think or teach anything different [about icons], or who follow the accursed heretics in rejecting ecclesiastical traditions . . . or who spurn anything entrusted to the church (whether it be the gospel of the figure of the cross or any example of representational art or any martyr’s holy relic), or who fabricate perverted and evil prejudices against cherishing any of the lawful traditions of the catholic church [which at that time included Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox], or who secularize the sacred objects and saintly monasteries, we order that they be suspended if they are bishops or clerics, and excommunicated if they are monks or lay people. . . . If anyone does not accept representation in art of evangelical scenes, let him be anathema. If anyone does not salute such representations as standing for the Lord and his saints, let him be anathema. . . . [T]he false writings composed against the venerable icons, should be given in at the episcopal building in Constantinople, so that they can be put away along with other heretical books. If someone is discovered to be hiding such books, if he is a bishop, priest or deacon, let him be suspended, and if he is a lay person or a monk, let him be excommunicated.1 In substance, the council concludes that icons are so important that, if a Christian doesn’t salute them (e.g., by kissing them or praying to them as to Christ and the saints), that Christian is to be excommunicated. In fact, the council even orders Christians not to own any books that argue against iconodulia. While neither church would be so harsh today, both of them still believe that Nicaea II infallibly teaches the principle that icons should be venerated. Even Orthodox today do not agree...if you talk to an old Russian Orthodox vs what they call the new Orthodox, you will see they don't agree with each other. How many fingers to use when making the cross symbol, which way to walk around the icons (counterclockwise vs clockwise), or even if there should be a bible verse on the back side of the crosses that's worn. Notice that the council calls iconodulia a tradition of the church. By saying that, the council is claiming that the practice of venerating icons originated with the apostles, and that it has always been an accepted practice in the church. However, the council was simply wrong. History clearly shows that the early church unilaterally rejected the veneration of images for the first centuries following the apostles. In Acts 10:26 Peter lifted him up, saying, “Stand up; I myself am also a man.” Veneration of images was seen as a difference between Christians and pagans/heretics, first century Christians defended themselves against the charge of not having sacred images, pre-Constantinian Christians directly contradicted veneration of images, No pre-Constantinian Christians described Christian veneration of images at all, and early Church Fathers did Not Venerate Icons. The Bible strictly forbids idolatry (Leviticus 26:1; Deuteronomy 5:9). God alone deserves to be bowed down to and worshiped. Icons are not intercessors before the throne of grace, and neither are the saints they represent. People in heaven do not have the power to hear our prayers or grant our requests. Only Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit can intercede for us before the Father (Romans 8:26-27, 34). We should stay as far away as we can from anything that could possibly lead to idolatry.

This guy is terrible at reading a script.... you would think it would be committed to memory 😂😂😂

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Whats is Appalachian Heretic?

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