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Holding Stolitz Accountable - Helluva Boss Analysis 

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@chese0965
@chese0965 29 дней назад
Blitz is stuck in self pitty Stolaz is stuck in a fantasy
@BonnieDearest40
@BonnieDearest40 29 дней назад
@@chese0965 yeah because stolas has no one but he’s daughter. So yeah
@seeleunit2000
@seeleunit2000 29 дней назад
​@@BonnieDearest40Same with Blitz with Loona.
@BonnieDearest40
@BonnieDearest40 29 дней назад
@@seeleunit2000 noooooo moxie and Millie and fizz
@BonnieDearest40
@BonnieDearest40 29 дней назад
@@seeleunit2000 dude has a support group
@quinnholloway5400
@quinnholloway5400 29 дней назад
Self pity and Self hatred
@mx9226
@mx9226 29 дней назад
I’m sure Octavia snapping at him will finally make Stolas fully self reflect.
@valentinkambushev4968
@valentinkambushev4968 29 дней назад
Unless the show plays the "Oh, Octavia is being manipulated by her mother and uncle! Poor Stolas!"
@SammyRobinson62232
@SammyRobinson62232 29 дней назад
@@valentinkambushev4968 They’ll 100 do that. I also hate how Octivia feels like an after thought and only is used to boost up Stolas
@ihartyoutubification
@ihartyoutubification 29 дней назад
Agreed, I'm hoping third times the charm for poor Octviva. Everyone kept excusing Stolas the first times and I just didn't get why. He made LuLu Land all about hiring Blitz so he could flirt with him, and basically did the same thing in the L A episode. He says he acknowledges how he's treating her but has yet to change it
@thesupernaturalhouse
@thesupernaturalhouse 29 дней назад
@@valentinkambushev4968 ugghhh I hate that I know that's what's gonna happen Like, her being manipulated by stella woudk at elast give Octavia more character traits but it's ONLY gonna happen to further victimize STOLAS I'm gonna be heonst I'd rather have Stella be a good mom to Octavia, I eman with all of season 1 and hie the vas rlaked about stella and Stolas I think they were setting her up to be a morally grey character, but that was obviously scrapped
@SammyRobinson62232
@SammyRobinson62232 29 дней назад
@@ihartyoutubification Along with the fact that Octavia forgives him both times. Which really annoyed me because it feels like she isn’t allow to feel angry or sad unless the plot demands for it. All so it can Stolas be the uwu sad boy dad who’s trying to do everything right for his daughter.
@TheChaoticAsexual
@TheChaoticAsexual 29 дней назад
My headcanon is that blitz never realized that his calendar was set to the wrong month for literally the whole month
@cam_luong
@cam_luong 29 дней назад
This is very Blitz
@zolo49noname45
@zolo49noname45 29 дней назад
@@cam_luong Very true, but I also think people obsessing over what month it actually was kinda need to take a deep breath and chill. It's a cartoon, not a Ken Burns documentary.
@seeleunit2000
@seeleunit2000 29 дней назад
​@@zolo49noname45It's not just a cartoon... But people do need to chill
@alexjewett7455
@alexjewett7455 29 дней назад
Or maybe hell works on a slightly different timescale.
@iceluvndiva21
@iceluvndiva21 29 дней назад
@@zolo49noname45 Its times like this where I actually agree with the people who say "it's a fictional show, chill". As a writter? This is something that I dread in my own fanfics.
@superthorc6894
@superthorc6894 29 дней назад
Stolas definitely needs more self awareness that’s for sure
@lwaysDrawing
@lwaysDrawing 29 дней назад
Stoats...
@nicholasaugello2534
@nicholasaugello2534 29 дней назад
​@@lwaysDrawingstoat image
@Dragonblade722
@Dragonblade722 29 дней назад
Yah, despite this being a good episode for Blitz development, Vivzie's character writing flaw was out in full force for Stolas. Whenever Vivzie has a favorite character, she gets terrified of people not liking them or pointing out their flaws. This often leads to retconning certain character interactions or messing with other characters to make them look better. This is why Stolas kept going on and on about how he's never seen Blitz as lesser when we defiantly know he's at least treated Blitz like he thought so.
@zenchantrelle9779
@zenchantrelle9779 29 дней назад
@@Dragonblade722 Not saying what your saying isn't valid but Vivzie straight up agreed that Stolas was so in his own head that he ignores reality including so I think she's(hopefully) building up to the episode Mastermind or Sinmas where he reliazes or someone shows him the error in his ways
@berilsevvalbekret772
@berilsevvalbekret772 29 дней назад
​​@@zenchantrelle9779god I hope so but so far she certainly failed in that regard. Especially considering the retcons, and Octavia and Stella pretty much exist to wubbyfy Stolas. If you are a woman you are not going to neuanced in a Vivziepop show
@althealee9375
@althealee9375 29 дней назад
I will say that I’ve heard Vivziepop wants Stolitz to be endgame and *if* that’s still true, I definitely think they need time apart BEFORE getting back together
@no_0riginality937
@no_0riginality937 29 дней назад
There goes my investment in the show 🫠
@falconeshield
@falconeshield 29 дней назад
I saw two coprotagonists be more enemies than friends for 3 whole seasons and I still shipped them hard. Stoliz need the time apart for the heart to grow fonder or yonder. ​@@no_0riginality937
@cam_luong
@cam_luong 29 дней назад
​@@no_0riginality937Wdym? They've been so clearly set up as endgame, why get invested in the show if you didn't want them together?
@AssassinGTM
@AssassinGTM 29 дней назад
​@@cam_luongbecause we live in an era where media literacy is at rock bottom. So you know damn well they likely ignored all the signs 😅
@shab_nak
@shab_nak 29 дней назад
@@no_0riginality937 "oh no, the creator of the show does how she likes! how could she!"
@nahumtate6354
@nahumtate6354 29 дней назад
i think the biggest issue thats ignored, is to blitz, they were never dating, it was blitz prostituting himself to a prince for his dinner ticket. which completely changes how to look at it, blitz wasnt being bad in a relationship, because blitz was never in a relationship, just something to make sure him and the only people he seems to care about can keep their jobs and money.
@solbelenchuquimiapoma9387
@solbelenchuquimiapoma9387 29 дней назад
His ex and Verosika don't know about that. The only ones who know the truth are IMP, Blitz and Stolas. And even Striker who I think will return and points this out in the future.
@Notyouraveragename
@Notyouraveragename 29 дней назад
💯💯
@artistanthony1007
@artistanthony1007 29 дней назад
THANK YOU! They are not a couple, it was never that, just a mutual thing.
@G.D.G.
@G.D.G. 29 дней назад
Thank you! Omg the amount of people that ignore this critical detail is wild.
@shadowwriter4538
@shadowwriter4538 28 дней назад
@@solbelenchuquimiapoma9387 Yeah, Verosika not knowing that is what bugged me about some of Apology Tour. She only ever saw Stolas as another ex of Blitz, not what the relationship was like. Her not knowing that always defeated the purpose of that party; that and we're assuming that some of those exes were actually hurt, or if any of them were just as bad if not worse than Blitz. Blitz may be an ass but that's kind of obvious when you really think about it and look at him.
@josiahtheawkward6008
@josiahtheawkward6008 29 дней назад
Stolas working with Blitzø would be so fucking funny
@falconeshield
@falconeshield 29 дней назад
It was built up from S2 Ep 1 that Stolas will be the receptionist proper of I.M.P. and I can't wait to be correct soon enough.
@Rayvincen
@Rayvincen 29 дней назад
They should make him the new receptionist so Loona can go on more adventures.
@LOLrpop
@LOLrpop 29 дней назад
@@Rayvincen Stolas being a receptionist would be much more fitting I mean- he does love words 😁
@falconeshield
@falconeshield 29 дней назад
​@@LOLrpop*happy owl noises*
@gregvs.theworld451
@gregvs.theworld451 29 дней назад
@@LOLrpop I saw somebody suggest he might enjoy playing part receptionist/therapist and working angry people putting out hits through their anger.
@therethan-family1234
@therethan-family1234 29 дней назад
My guess is when his family will summon him to "judge" him, he will have a defense-attorney who provides proof that their relationship is actually the "morally acceptable" master-servant dynamic. Stolas sees many scenes where he put Blitz down, realizes his own hyprcrity and bombs his own defense.
@G.D.G.
@G.D.G. 29 дней назад
Now THAT! That would be an interesting episode.
@milkflavored
@milkflavored 29 дней назад
Ouch, talk about a wake up call
@seeleunit2000
@seeleunit2000 29 дней назад
That would definitely be interesting
@eilzabethsstudioslifeonyou
@eilzabethsstudioslifeonyou 29 дней назад
I would love for this to actually happen😭I hope it does or something similar
@semi-animatronic9773
@semi-animatronic9773 29 дней назад
We can only pray
@LunacyFringe
@LunacyFringe 29 дней назад
"you couldnt even bother to come save me" HE WAS LITERALLY TAKING CARE OF HIS DAUGHTER???
@gokbay3057
@gokbay3057 29 дней назад
Very true, though I am not sure Stolas knows this. Blitz didn't say "I was taking care of my daughter" he said "well you are immortal, I didn't think Striker could hurt you."
@Axel_Kasai
@Axel_Kasai 29 дней назад
Bullshit excuse. Millie and moxxie could've taken her for the shot. Moxie just had to claim he was blitzø 😂
@LunacyFringe
@LunacyFringe 29 дней назад
@@Axel_Kasai thats such a shitty thing to say. "hey, daughter, im gonna go save this guy i fuck and barely know instead of putting you, my only child who should mean the world to me, first." ??? sending moxie and millie to save stolas was the right move not the other way around
@GenesisBoi
@GenesisBoi 29 дней назад
​@@LunacyFringenot only that loona clearly showed anxiety and stress being around that place. Why would he send his employees when this is something a loving parent should do
@roca7268
@roca7268 29 дней назад
Well, to me saving a person's life is more important than taking a person to get a shot (a person who is also an ADULT and should be capable of going on their own), and the fact that that shot was delayed for 5 years makes me believe that it could be delayed for some time more. Saving a person's life is an emergency; taking a shot is important, but it isn't as urgent: it's a prevention against an emergency. But, on the other hand, it's not like Blitz completely disregarded Stolas' situation. At first he was going to save him as fast as he could, then the M&Ms said they could handle it themselves, so he trusted them and let them take care of it. It was bold of him to assume that they could beat Striker on their own, since Striker is such a dangerous opponent. Sending the M&Ms put them in danger as well. But this is also a testament of how much Blitz trusts the M&Ms (and, to a certain degree, Stolas' power). So, yeah, I think Blitz made the right choice by staying with Loona. But only because the M&Ms were also an option.
@dii4741
@dii4741 29 дней назад
as an artist, I've also noticed that with the constant excusing of Stolas's behavior coincided with a sudden change in how the animators draw him face-wise, he used to have a much more narrow face, squinted eyes and a decidedly more "smug" appearance, but ever since the episode where they were children, they kept drawing him with the rounder baby face, wider eyes and generally "cuter" appearance.
@milkflavored
@milkflavored 29 дней назад
I’ve noticed that too!! S2 has def been a wider face plate, wider eyes, more “confused” or triangle-mouth smiling, than smug. So glad someone pointed this out!! 💕
@CryingClouds1
@CryingClouds1 29 дней назад
Maybe to make him feel more “sympathetic “
@Happiheaded
@Happiheaded 28 дней назад
It gives me the ick they literally smoothed away his rougher edges
@aerinsoleris
@aerinsoleris 28 дней назад
The fact that they had to push a "met at childhood" trope had me rolling my eyes so hard. You mean to say that a demon prince who was based on demonic literature that's hundreds of years old just coincidentally happened to be a child the same age as kid Blitzo and they both grew up at the same rate? It's this and other little things that feels so try hard at making the ship as non problematic as possible, "safe toxic". Another glaring instance of this safe toxic mindset is Stella: Stolas cheated on his wife? That's okay, she's a nonsympathetic one dimensional stupid villain, never mind that she was also forced in the marriage just to give birth to heirs, that's not demeaning at all.
@Ari_C
@Ari_C 27 дней назад
​@@aerinsoleris vivzie has literally herself talked about how Stella still has a perspective on the relationship that hasn't been told _yet._ you should really watch lightweights podcast's interview of her. she talks a lot about how long they've been planning all the story beats and such. nothing that happens in the show is in reaction to people's opinions on past episodes, they've had everything planned out for way too long for that to be feasible, especially considering they've already recorded all the lines for season two and have started recording for season 3.
@teacupoctopus
@teacupoctopus 29 дней назад
I'm really hoping Octavia gives it to him, no holds barred. Stolas has done some serious damage to Blitz that he doesn't even notice, but he's been doing Via just as dirty. If he isn't dismissing or ignoring her to fight with Stella, he's doing it to flirt or fight with Blitz. Even at Loo Loo Land he was making excuses for his behavior instead of apologizing and acknowledging what he was doing was hurting her, and Via is smart enough to notice these things and the larger pattern. And she is brave enough and so sick of it that she has nothing to lose in telling her dad off. This is just me yammering, I would imagine we're getting close to her being 18 now. I could see her possibly becoming a target to the Goetia for their own machinations. Or maybe on her 18th birthday, she decides to leave and try and make it on her own and tells her dad off when he tries to change her mind. We see her with Loona in product art sometimes, so maybe she goes to her to help figure out her life. Who knows. I'm just gonna sit here waiting for Stolas to get a wake-up call for being a dickbag.
@GenesisBoi
@GenesisBoi 29 дней назад
I wouldnt rely too much on product art because its just something for the fans. Hopefully it is true because both Loona and Octavia could likely help eachother given their abandonment issues
@milkflavored
@milkflavored 29 дней назад
(Psst. Word on the street is Octavia is getting a song about just that)
@FullMoonDeria
@FullMoonDeria 29 дней назад
I'm just going to point out that Stolas wasn't making excuses during Loo Loo Land, he was trying to tell his daughter the truth of the matter and not being able to. If Octavia was really as emotionally astute as you're implying, then she would have noticed sooner that her family was barely playing nice and her father was miserable. In both of these cases, her reaction to how things are going would probably be very different. She does need to confront Stolas on how he's affecting her, but we need to remember that he sheltered her enough that she literally thinks that everything was fine until he fell for Blitzo when it wasn't. It doesn't negate the harm he's done, but it does mean that she's biased about something she doesn't have the full picture for, same as everyone else.
@RavenSutcliffe
@RavenSutcliffe 29 дней назад
​@@FullMoonDeriaFor real. Every other thing he did on that episode I hold him to task for, but choking on his words and stuttering while trying to figure out how to tell his daughter "I was forced to marry your mother, it was decided when I was a child, she's abusive, even if she weren't I'm gay and I can't be in love with her, cheating was a result of how things were and not a careless decision that blew up my happy marriage" without actually saying that because he doesn't want to destroy the image he sacrificed half his life to create so Via had a chance at being happy and normal... That's not something I can fault him for. Of course I want Via to put things in plain text for him, but I also want the reverse, specifically in re: her mother. I wonder if she even knows that without Stolas she would most likely be heading to the altar with some stranger on her next birthday
@aerinsoleris
@aerinsoleris 28 дней назад
I want to see Stella's side of the story. People seem to forget that she was also forced into the marriage just to produce heirs, her worth is hinged solely on making babies. Also note that she has no personal ambitions for power, she was totally fine with Octavia inheriting everything after Stolas is assassinated. Octavia herself does not seem to dislike Stella, so any vitriol Stella had to Stolas was not targeted at her daughter.
@mevss
@mevss 29 дней назад
"When have I ever?" 2 seconds earlier "My little impish plaything"
@BonnieDearest40
@BonnieDearest40 29 дней назад
I really can’t understand this fandom sometimes because you guys can have so much understanding for one character and then completely have no understanding for the other. How many times have we seen in the show blitz saying something out-of-pocket or downright SA to his employees or some random character or even stolas in season two episode one and this episode. You guys never seen the pointed out or even called this character out for it but when it comes to stolas saying something controversial literally a season ago you guys won’t shut up about it.
@lilbroomstick8111
@lilbroomstick8111 29 дней назад
@@BonnieDearest40you are legit brain dead fam. Did you even watch the video?
@RockCandy718
@RockCandy718 29 дней назад
If Stolas actually looked down on Blitzo, he probably would have severely punished Blitzo for getting caught by humans, and losing his daughter in L.A. He had plenty of chances to just throw Blitzo away and take the book back. He could’ve left Blitzo with nothing. This guy can literally turn people to stone with a glance!
@Comet346
@Comet346 29 дней назад
@BonnieDearest40 Because people will keep on defending him. Both are in the wrong. Everybody makes Stolas the poor bird boy who has done nothing wrong in the relationship. Blitzø isn’t the prince here Stolas is. Stolas not only calls Blitzø names but other imps. He lacks self awareness. You seem like you are defending Stolas. Yeah Blitzø has messed up many times. He has messed up countless relationships, and pushed everybody away. He pushed Stolas away many times and doesn’t want to communicate with him sometimes. You did not have to be rude by the way.
@BonnieDearest40
@BonnieDearest40 29 дней назад
@@RockCandy718 exactly! Stolas never really abused his power over blitz in fact he is the ONLY reason blitz is even successful in the first place.
@deandredukes95
@deandredukes95 29 дней назад
True love does not only encompass the things that make you feel good, it also holds you to a standard of accountability.
@The_Practical_Daydreamer
@The_Practical_Daydreamer 29 дней назад
Yes, a thousand times over.
@samanthaM7119
@samanthaM7119 29 дней назад
Ooh that’s a good line, I’ll have to remember that
@falconeshield
@falconeshield 29 дней назад
Yup
@0CaptainZer0
@0CaptainZer0 29 дней назад
Oh my god IT JUST OCCURED TO ME that Stolas bringing up the Striker thing was when Loona needed to get her shots so Blitz was LITERALLY actually BUSY-
@falconeshield
@falconeshield 28 дней назад
I expected him to bring up the fact that Blitz never came to visit him in the hospital after getting almost killed by Striker.
@valentinkambushev4968
@valentinkambushev4968 29 дней назад
I thought I was the only one who would be fine if they don't end up together. Just because Blitzo "woke Stolas up" doesn't mean their relationship has to work out.
@JackedThor-so
@JackedThor-so 29 дней назад
Honestly, if they just made the Succubus guy he danced with in Apology Tour an actual character and have them date I'd be perfectly happy NGL.
@valentinkambushev4968
@valentinkambushev4968 29 дней назад
@@JackedThor-so well, he is a man, so yeah, he is going to be a character. Hell, he will probably get more development than Millie and Loona.
@JackedThor-so
@JackedThor-so 29 дней назад
@@valentinkambushev4968 yeah...
@theineffableshipper297
@theineffableshipper297 29 дней назад
no i need them to be happy fgs
@Takejiro24
@Takejiro24 29 дней назад
​@@valentinkambushev4968 Lmao, the pettiness here. But, who knows you might be right.
@bulletvendor533
@bulletvendor533 29 дней назад
I once heard a beautiful term that I think fits this ship perfectly, 'delusionship'.
@falconeshield
@falconeshield 28 дней назад
Ah so that's what Zutara was 😂
@BooksAndCranies
@BooksAndCranies 28 дней назад
I never noticed stolas put a cigarette out on his horns…. Add to the fact that blitz is a burn victim
@MarleeEdens
@MarleeEdens 29 дней назад
I can't be the only one who NEEDS a road trip episode with Octavia and Loona
@valentinkambushev4968
@valentinkambushev4968 29 дней назад
A woman-centered episode in Helluva Boss!? Impossible!
@mulqueen2023
@mulqueen2023 29 дней назад
​@@valentinkambushev4968 Honestly, Viv even once said Hazbin would be female centric, yet almost every important character and fan fav is a dude. Angel, Alistair, Lucifer, Val, Vox, Adam. While the list of important female characters is Charlie, (Not Vaggie), and ummmm oh Rosie! And uhhhhhh. Yeah Charlie is it. Viv just doesn't like women being center stage. In HB, they're either background or props for the male characters. Loona is to boost up Blitz as a selfless parent, Millie is just a bland well of support for Moxie, and Octavia is just to add an emotional aspect to Stolas' actions and divorce, to exist just so she can he hurt and he can get all UwU and feel bad.
@berilsevvalbekret772
@berilsevvalbekret772 29 дней назад
Hahahahaha!!! Women is center stage?!?! Hahahahahha!!! Good one mate 😂😂. I would Love an episode of Octavia and Stella though. Give us SOMETHING about Stella not a caricature they turned her into. I can't care less for the furry bair mouth piece though
@GenesisBoi
@GenesisBoi 29 дней назад
​@@mulqueen2023it doesnt help that our main interests is the relationship between TWO MALE DEMONS. Unlike hazbin hotel who's more of a grand story involving both hell and heaven, helluva boss is just stuck in hell between a handful of characters. We arent worrying about lilith, about the hotel or sinners redeeming themselves. We are worrying if an imp and a owl are going to make up xD
@falconeshield
@falconeshield 29 дней назад
Thelma and Louise the furry version
@VoodooGMusic
@VoodooGMusic 29 дней назад
Asmodean crystals can only be used by the ones who own them, Blitz has to force the drug dealer guy to open the portal to earth.
@seeleunit2000
@seeleunit2000 29 дней назад
Exactly. That detail was obvious. So how did so many people miss that ?
@LAWless_Nonsense
@LAWless_Nonsense 20 дней назад
Also them being registered aka governmentally regulated
@raychumon
@raychumon 29 дней назад
the thing that gets me is that when blitz tells stolas "i don't understand why you'd love me", stolas never actually gives a proper response. he doesn't explain why he loves blitz, he just says he wants someone to love HIM. it almost sounds like he's saying that anyone will do, so long as they care about him. it just proves that they never really had a relationship and don't even know that much about each other beyond surface-level things. i hope this separation will give them a chance to actually learn who they are as people without any transactional factors affecting it, but we'll see what the show actually does with them.
@megankissinger8269
@megankissinger8269 27 дней назад
To give some credit to Stolas here, it's not like he's never tried to get to know him better - but I do wish Stolas had answered that. I think if ANYONE in Blitz's life answered that question for him, it would help a lot.
@KitKatbar168
@KitKatbar168 25 дней назад
And the fact he moves on so quickly dosent help his case either 😭
@seeleunit2000
@seeleunit2000 22 дня назад
Exactly. Because they never did have a relationship. It was sex for services. They never dated. Stolas was only interested in the idea of Blitz he never loved Blitz for who he was.
@seeleunit2000
@seeleunit2000 22 дня назад
​@@KitKatbar168Exactly.
@megankissinger8269
@megankissinger8269 22 дня назад
@@seeleunit2000 He does like him for reasons beyond sex, although the show could have displayed that more..
@daviddimitrov3696
@daviddimitrov3696 29 дней назад
I'm kinda worried that Blitz will be treated as "the one in the wrong" the whole time as they have been doing recently and they act like Stolas is in the clear where as he said he'd give Blitz a choice, then assumes his choice and gets mad at him for his assumption of his choice.
@seeleunit2000
@seeleunit2000 29 дней назад
Well, maybe at first as a way of setting up the audience for a complete 180... Since you know, with this fandom it wouldn't be that far off.
@daviddimitrov3696
@daviddimitrov3696 29 дней назад
@@seeleunit2000 that would be an interesting direction
@tuckersmith4715
@tuckersmith4715 29 дней назад
We’re here to talk about stolitz… agan
@BrenoRanyere
@BrenoRanyere 29 дней назад
"Sheen, that's the 7th week in a row you talked about stolitz in class"
@discoshark7767
@discoshark7767 29 дней назад
If Sarcastic Chorus wants to talk about his gay demons then he’s gonna talk about his gay demons, let the man live!
@leonardowickman57
@leonardowickman57 29 дней назад
Thats the mainplot of this show nowadays.
@lilseanrobinson158
@lilseanrobinson158 29 дней назад
Yes 😊
@ElizaOnPaws
@ElizaOnPaws 29 дней назад
Of course Gay demons make sense
@Savicurlly
@Savicurlly 29 дней назад
The calendar is hand written. Blitz doesn't know how Months work, and probably didn't think about it too much. In character, and entirely relatable. If you think about Blitz being unable to keep track of time effectively, which he usually doesn't, then it would be easy to see that he legitimately didn't think it was October, didn't think that October started on a Thursday, or overlooked the fact that you can write 31 on the calendar on the same line and date as the beginning of the week by cutting the square in half. It would not surprise me if he flipped that month over and it started with the 31st for the next day to be the 1st. Happens.
@p0rkch0p35
@p0rkch0p35 29 дней назад
“We’re stolas is doing his regular party thing…being alone.😊”
@RavenSutcliffe
@RavenSutcliffe 29 дней назад
And trying to test if a Goetia can drink himself to death, apparently
@darkwoods639
@darkwoods639 29 дней назад
You understand that the Stolitz is not just any ship when Sarcastic Chorus dedicates at least 10 videos to it.
@falconeshield
@falconeshield 29 дней назад
Everyone had a Buffy X Spike OTP ship at some point in their life. For Chorus, it's Stoliz.
@alexelion7084
@alexelion7084 27 дней назад
I mean the ship is kinda at the center of the whole series. There are other things happening too, but it mainly revolves around them
@MrGochira
@MrGochira 29 дней назад
Verosica knowing in less than 24hrs is interesting, she is a succubus it wouldnt surprise me if they have magic to know when a bad breakup happens as that is prime soul sucking material. "I feel a disturbance in the ship, deploy the ninja incubus"
@krowking123
@krowking123 29 дней назад
I’m fine with apology tour personally because it was needed for Blitz to finally get to the point where Stolas is at in actually WANTING their dynamic to be more than just sex. Their relationship was a non starter if Blitz didn’t want a true relationship to happen. I think Apology Tour was perfect in making Blitz painfully self aware of how his own self hatred is hurting others when he’s been under the false assumption that him denying committed relationships was somehow helping the other person because his own opinion of himself is so low. And I get the feeling Stolas is going to get his own reality check very soon… if he doesn’t it will be a problem, but it’s far to early to stress over until we see where this story’s heading.
@letb5569
@letb5569 29 дней назад
The problem I have with it ...is once again we have to shift their characters almost 360. Stolas didn't love Blitz ....he was infatuated with him as his only friend and connection. The man broke in to take the book, and that is how their relationship began. In fact, Blitz was actually the one in control here, because he simply could have taken the book and ran away. Yet, he felt sorry for him, & he choose to stay, & he choose the contract. There were benefits for both parties. They were equal, until suddenly they weren't. Stolas started to take things too far. You missed the fact that he started to abuse the power he had in the contract ..inwhich he had Blitzo acted as his bodyguard on at least two other missions. That wasn't the deal, and he started to utilize their power differences in other ways to make Blitzo do other things. Now Stolas wants a real relationship, but instead of finding out what he needs to do to make that happen. He instead choose what makes him feel less guilty and say things like I'm setting him free....like master and servant. The problem was ....Blitzo himself chose the contract, because with it ....they were equals. They were partners in crime, but once he broke it ...it became Stolas wants it this way. So, what now, if he drops him ....he would seem to be a greedy person who only wanted the ability to travel, and if he stay ...it's because he feels he owes him. It was a no win for Blitz. To sum it up: People often forget ...but in a love confessions ...it's just as much of a burden for someone to answer ...as it is for someone to wait on the answer.
@krowking123
@krowking123 29 дней назад
@@letb5569 I think that’s a little unfair to Stolas. The bodyguard parts were indeed not a part of their contracts however at the end of the Day Blitz agreed to them, less so Loo Loo land but the Harvest Festival Blitz took Stolas up on the offer. Let’s also not forget Blitz used Stolas to get into Ozzies and lead him on to think it was a date when it clearly wasn’t, so it hasn’t been a one way street. There is definitely a power imbalance in Stolas’s favor for most of their relationship that Stolas recognizes (though he still hasn’t fully taken the steps to correct those issues). But once he gave Blitz the crystal and gave the choice to Blitz to stay or go the ball was in Blitz’s court, and Blitz didn’t swing. And Stolas broke the relationship off and was seemingly fine to leave it at that, or at least give them space for himself to cool off that Blitz failed to respect and pushed. Stolas set Harvest Moon up to fail with his terrible communication but it’s Blitz who needed to realize he wants more out of this thing than he has had up to this point. If this was about simply the deal then when Blitz got the crystal he could have just taken it as “Well, I fulfilled my end of the contract and got the ultimate thing I wanted, peace out bitches!” But he didn’t, because he wants more out of this than he’s willing to admit. Apology Tour got Blitz to the place where Stolas has been for a while, now they actually have a chance to work out their issues because now they both want it… assuming Stolas hasn’t completely moved on at this point.
@seeleunit2000
@seeleunit2000 29 дней назад
... Buy all things that are unholy ! You stole his fans really are weird and lack any self-awareness. The owl is the one who also screwed up. It's been stated time and again, yet you still ignore it. And that's why you like that owl. He's just like you in the sense that he ignores the obvious when it's starting at him in the face. Because you're just like that
@seeleunit2000
@seeleunit2000 29 дней назад
​@@letb5569... They both screwed up. In Full Moon Stolas screwed up more there. In apology tour they, both screwed up.
@thiefpotato2759
@thiefpotato2759 29 дней назад
Tbh, I don't think it's fair to assume Blitz doesn't want a relationship with Stolas. As it is unfair to assume he does because we simply do not have access to that information. We cannot take what Blitz says at face value cuz he will do anything if it means he has control of the situation. Its why his first response to any personal conflict is to yell and insult. I think the episode is about how his need for self preservation is very selfish and ends up hurting people.
@halomoon_
@halomoon_ 29 дней назад
If it becomes true that Stolas loses his status, title and his royal life then that means he’s going to have to learn what’s life without having everything granted to you on a silver platter. Cause Stolas doesn’t understand low class or what’s it like to live a poor life. So I feel that would teach him what’s it like for imps that work manual labor jobs and give him a better perspective on blitz and his work and everything in his life. Because as much as Stolas claims to like blitz and doesn’t look down on him he really doesn’t know anything about him
@valentinkambushev4968
@valentinkambushev4968 29 дней назад
For real. I doubt he even knows his dad bought Blitzo for him.
@scurvofpcp
@scurvofpcp 29 дней назад
I would say it is worse that he does not know. He knows some things, but not appreciate or really understands what he knows. We all know what hunger and cold is, but hopefully very few of us know what that is like at 3 in the morning while homeless and in the middle of a blizzard.
@risacooper
@risacooper 29 дней назад
Would actually make for a super interesting episode/plotline I think!
@berilsevvalbekret772
@berilsevvalbekret772 29 дней назад
Would be VERY interesting but he is a born prince. His powers are his own (he definantly doesn't need the book we've seen again and again) so even if they take the status...who will fulfill his role. I know its Viv's continuity but you can't just get rid of a demon of an Ars Goetia.
@Green-Hybrid3017
@Green-Hybrid3017 29 дней назад
This would be very interesting.
@chaoticlady_fairy
@chaoticlady_fairy 29 дней назад
I was so grateful when they people came out of the woodwork contesting stolas claims after the entire fandom turned on blitz. I was like damn finally both sides are in the wrong ! All you were missing was being captured by the dhorks after stolas rescued them how he patronized them blitz included .
@kaycings9844
@kaycings9844 29 дней назад
“Are you little creatures not being careful?” -Stolas to 3 imps and a hellhound, all of which are in the lowest two social classes of hell
@mulqueen2023
@mulqueen2023 29 дней назад
I think the people who like Stolitz, actually love the concept more then the reality. The concept being a cute pairing of two opposites, both an enemy to lovers and childhood romance package. Reality though is two dysfunctional adults who should just avoid one another as they worsen each other. Stolas needs to be a dad to Octavia and stop guilting Blitz, and Blitz should just focus on being less shitty.
@milkflavored
@milkflavored 29 дней назад
I actually hate the childhood romance aspect, that felt tacky. But I like them as the messy people they are, bc that feels true to life for me. Apology Tour did a great job of removing the fandom lenses bc most ships wouldn’t have a healthy discussion like the couch scene, or show you can still talk and care about each other while being reasonably mad and hurt. Most enemies to lovers centered stuff would go straight to making Blitzø jealous, and spend the whole episode lingering on it. In real life you can’t always help who your person is, and no one is ever going to be perfect. You just have to see each other for who the other person is and Stolitz are starting that now. They only had a shallow understanding of each other before, and the framework of their previous relationship played into that. Now they’ll see each other at their worst and realize they still want that connection
@seeleunit2000
@seeleunit2000 29 дней назад
Exactly. Those two are both equally screwed up.
@seeleunit2000
@seeleunit2000 29 дней назад
​@@milkflavoredIt was less of a "childhood romance" on Blitz's Part. Stolas had the crush, Blitz didn't. stolas might have remembered Blitz as a kid, Blitz didn't
@milkflavored
@milkflavored 29 дней назад
@@seeleunit2000​​⁠Blitz had to remember Stolas or he wouldn’t have known to go after the book 😑 Stolas is the one who told him about it
@roca7268
@roca7268 29 дней назад
I think it's kind of the opposite. Many people who were fans of the pairing loved how messy and disfunctional it was. See Sarcastic Chorus himself. The concept of two equally flawed people getting in a relationship just for business and lust, then starting to become more and more dependent on it due to the desire of both of them to be loved and their abandonment issues, and ultimately wanting to change the nature of their relationship but having a hard time due to how it started... This is what drew people to this ship. Two characters who took their relationship light-heartedly or carelessly at first, and then got hurt because of it. The "childhood friends" part of this story, and season 2 ep 1 in general, annoyed a big part of the fandom back then, because it changed the nature of this ship. On one hand, it tried to make it more morally acceptable by saying that the arrangement was based on a miscommunication (and this convinced some people who were against or neutral to Stolitz to give it a chance). But on the other hand, it meant that these two characters were never on the same page. Not only there was miscommunication regarding what they wanted their relationship to become, but also on what their relationship was from the beginning. Back then, many people used to believe that Stolas thought their relationship was based on lust, at first. Maybe Stolas had also a romantic attachment to Blitz, and maybe he believed that Blitz had physical attraction for him as well, but the fandom thought that Stolas knew that Blitz had no romantic feelings. So, they thought that Stolas himself was trying to get content with the lustful nature of their relationship. This was supported by how Stolas proposed their arrangement, by Stolas' "that's a mood Gabriella" (Gabriella was screaming "why won't you love me Alejandro??"), by the fact that he was so happy when Blitz asked him out (he was like "Blitz is ready for the next step??"), and by the fact that when Blitz said what he thought their relationship was in ep 7, Stolas didn't look surprised, just sad and sorry. But season 2 ep 1 seemed to imply that Stolas believed there were romantic feelings on both sides. This seems like a minor detail, but it makes a huge difference. Though, this actually reinforces your statement even more. I too believe that many people love Stolitz more because of the concept than for what they actually are.
@Tylerr_Creative
@Tylerr_Creative 29 дней назад
The crystal gift from Stolas feels even more worthless considering Stoals only got it BECAUSE of Blitz making amends with Fizzarolli...like genuinely he didn't do shit outside of ask, get rejected, and then just give up. If Blitz didn't do his work, then he probably wouldn't have gotten that crystal since Stolas only puts the most pathetic amount of effort to actually help someone he loves...
@red-rr3is
@red-rr3is 29 дней назад
OMG TRUE OMG TRUE TRUE TRUE everyone use the argument that he helped Blitz BUT BLITZ HELPED HIMSELF!!! Like he expects Blitz to be happy about all the "ghost help" he does to Blitzo, how hes supossed to know ??
@shadowfox2730
@shadowfox2730 29 дней назад
That's a stretch saying it was worthless. Stolas mentioned before if someone knew he gave that book to Blitzo, it could be bad for the both of them. Seeing how the other episodes is gonna go, Stolas ex would used anything to get back at him. And that would make Blitzo get caught up and would probably get to him first since to them hes nothing. And Stolas hinted in the Full moon episode that it was illegal. It was actually a good move on his part to take that advantage of Blitzo friendship with Frizz to get that crystal. He also needs more credit when credit is do.
@seeleunit2000
@seeleunit2000 29 дней назад
Exactly. I mean what would have Stolas done if Ozzy was adamant in not helping ? Would he have just bothered to even try to swipe a crystal for Blitz ? He says he loves him, yet he doesn't put much effort. He might be attracted to him, yet Stolas NEVER does much for Blitz
@Lavteas
@Lavteas 29 дней назад
how do u know thats all he did?
@seeleunit2000
@seeleunit2000 29 дней назад
​@@red-rr3isExactly. And at that time Blitz wasn't even looking for a crystal, let alone asked for one from Fizz. By trying to save both their butts and apologizing (even if the whole thing was an accident, wrapped up in a manipulation on Blitz's Dad's part). Dude still said sorry and meant it. And he got some good karma out of it.
@chilliicecream5456
@chilliicecream5456 29 дней назад
Look, all I’m saying is that Stolas is very stay-at-home-wife coded
@falconeshield
@falconeshield 27 дней назад
"I'm Stolas. Yo."
@pie1o1morris46
@pie1o1morris46 29 дней назад
The "when have I ever" line makes sense cause no one has pointed out to him that his version of flirting comes off as condescending. Blitz never corrected that other than the "just say my name right" line. Therefore he doesn'ttttt knowwwww. Someone needs to tell him first.
@user-bq6hr3nf5h
@user-bq6hr3nf5h 29 дней назад
Facts I do like Stolas but my main hope is that he will also get a dress down or at least a chance to see how he is also a problem (I do acknowledge he takes some accountability in the song but still) in the future episodes because yeah I hate when show do the “they talked off screen thing” and they both need a lesson on communication.
@verdanawebster20x30
@verdanawebster20x30 29 дней назад
Blitz tried to establish boundaries back in Loo Loo land so he could just do his job bodyguarding, and Stolas cuts him off saying he's being cute when he's serious
@falconeshield
@falconeshield 29 дней назад
Still into owo poor owl boy territory. Stolas is 35 not 17.
@CatalinaLinal7710
@CatalinaLinal7710 29 дней назад
As a casual fan of Helluva Boss (meaning I'm not aware of whatever essays the Fandom writes and 'agrees on' for theses characters and story lines) I genuinely wonder if the "When have I ever" line is supposed to be yet another thing where Stolas thinks he's merely matching Blitz' energy. Cause Blitz himself is saying and doing some _wild shit_ to Stolas and that's just written off by the Fandom as "fine, whatever, it's Blitz lol", so I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Stolas genuinely thought they were on equal footing in all this all along.
@Jdudec367
@Jdudec367 28 дней назад
@@falconeshield He is meant to be flawed as well.
@kyubi78
@kyubi78 29 дней назад
I have faith in the creators because in that scene where Stolas goes "when have I ever looked down on you" he immediately sits down because he is literally looking down on Blitzo.
@airplanes_aren.t_real
@airplanes_aren.t_real 29 дней назад
And he still looks down on him
@seeleunit2000
@seeleunit2000 29 дней назад
​@@airplanes_aren.t_realPretty much
@nikispade1350
@nikispade1350 29 дней назад
I love that we got the song " Look my way" But if you watch FullMoon he barely looks at Blitz all XD. I get that he was nervous but Blitz was behind him crying,I was like BRO PAY ATTENTION XD but it was ironic
@theinfernus9912
@theinfernus9912 29 дней назад
"Breaking bad.." Me: yoo heisenberg in hell??? "... habits. Bad habits"
@karkarlol
@karkarlol 29 дней назад
i knew someone would point it out ye, thought the same lmao
@justhereforfun5725
@justhereforfun5725 29 дней назад
Youre goddamn right
@falconeshield
@falconeshield 28 дней назад
Better Call Saul was better Fight me
@dinosaysrawr
@dinosaysrawr 29 дней назад
Please prove me wrong, but my sense of Helluva Boss is that it hasn't been as carefully and deliberately plotted and written as we would like or as we would've plotted and written it ourselves, and that characters have been repeatedly retconned or pulled in new directions just based on *vibes.* I get the impression that once Stolas started being written as a sympathetic sad woobie, the writing team forgot how he came across in the earliest episodes.
@athousandfeethigh
@athousandfeethigh 29 дней назад
This. Honestly a lot of episodes come off as '...I get WHAT you're doing, but why did you do it THIS way??' more and more as the series goes along. Besides the predictable 'Stolas feels bad and was treated poorly' that challenges nothing and nobody, Blitz being a loser who overcompensates vs someone who has entire parties planned around how terrible he is was a fast attempt at a character arc under the guise of comedy.
@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343
@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343 29 дней назад
I miss how Stolas was in season 1.
@SpoopySquid
@SpoopySquid 29 дней назад
I miss Pilot Stolas
@firefliesinthesky384
@firefliesinthesky384 29 дней назад
this isn’t true. the show was planned out after the pilot and they had figured out the ending and where the show was going to go while writing season 1. season 2 was written three years ago, and by the time it was finished, only the first two episodes of the show had aired. i don’t think people understand how the writing and production process works, because many assume that viv finished season 1, and then started season 2 and changed everything. that’s not how it works. this was all written years ago, animation just takes time. and by the way, viv said herself that stolas has made mistakes and lacks a lot of self awareness. just because he hasn’t realised that yet doesn’t mean it’s not going to happen.
@athousandfeethigh
@athousandfeethigh 28 дней назад
@@firefliesinthesky384 the thought that all of this is baked in makes it worse. Stolas is definitely gonna get his but there's a nuance to writing that doesn't swing-set and she consistently flies high
@PlanetZoidstar
@PlanetZoidstar 29 дней назад
23:55 - Blitzo also apologised TO STOLAS at the end of OZZIE'S when he refused to spend the night after their night out.
@valentinkambushev4968
@valentinkambushev4968 29 дней назад
I feel like the show is trying to retcon everything from the episodes prior to "Ozzie's". I mean, they bluntly ignore all the times Stolas has been thirsty and all the pet names he used on Blitzo.
@megankissinger8269
@megankissinger8269 27 дней назад
I thought there were some romantic hints throughout season 1, like using "knight in shining armor," "darling," inviting him out for fun, showing concern for his safety, complimenting his assassin skills - however his delivery was also sprinkled in with lots of sexual remarks.
@magniwalterbutnotwaltermag1479
Blitzø also uses pet names and is shown to be incredibly thirsty too. The problem with Stolas is he doesn't realise that he's being condescending when HE does it 'cause he's a prince. He just thinks they're trading flirts 100%.
@Ghostface1998
@Ghostface1998 29 дней назад
It’s so entertaining watching you just hoping for Stolas’s downfall lmao. Like damn the bird has truly sent you on quite the journey.
@seeleunit2000
@seeleunit2000 29 дней назад
Honestly, I think Stolas suffering a physical loss of something would be good. Because the guy is too in his head. He can't see past his own flaws
@Rayla150037062
@Rayla150037062 28 дней назад
I think Sarcastic Chorus doesn't really pray for his downfall, he just wants characters to hold accountability for their actions. Also, let's be real, Apology Tour was brutal for Blitz.
@bumblebeeproductions1673
@bumblebeeproductions1673 29 дней назад
The fact is that I feel that, unfortunately, Vivzie probably won’t put Stolas accountable. He is the fan favorite and the UwU boy of the show. If he does get taken accountable I’m actually gonna be surprised and impressed
@Neil-evil_toy
@Neil-evil_toy 9 дней назад
oh nooooooo,that so sad😢😢
@enegizedadam
@enegizedadam 7 дней назад
From what i learned Vivzie just sucks at writing she is a wattpad fanfic level writer, Brandon would have done a better job in this role
@CellSpex
@CellSpex 29 дней назад
Aw thank you! You did a great job digging into them both!
@Lanoira13
@Lanoira13 28 дней назад
I think Stolas' comment about Striker is just another example of him NOT treating Blitz as an equal or with respect. Sure doylistically the shot subplot was a meaningless diversion to keep Blitz away so he could get shocked by Stolas' condition, but watsonianly Loona needed potentially lifesaving preventative treatment that she's supposed to have yearly, that she hasn't had in 5 years and probably won't have for another 5 years. If Blitz had to reschedule, it would have meant risking Loona's well being and probably her LIFE given we're talking about HELL rabies (I'd assume it's not better than earth rabies). Stolas would do the same damn thing as Blitz if he was in the same position caught between Blitz being in danger and needing help and Octavia's life being unavoidably at risk everyday for 5 more years if she didn't get a vaccine. And he'd probably call the same two people to help too, despite not knowing Moxxie and Millie exceptionally well from what we've seen, because he knows they're capable enough that Blitz trusts them. At least Blitz seemed to seriously consider working out some way to go for Stolas himself before Moxxie offered, and even still he seemed reluctant to not be there for him. I don't know if Stolas would accept that trade off with Octavia if he DIDN'T have someone else available to save Blitz's life. I genuinely think if he had no other options, he'd just be like "I will be there as soon as I can, but I have to take care of my daughter first and that's going to take a while." And yet he's really giving Blitz shit for not personally coming to save him, when HE KNOWS Blitz was taking care of his daughter, KNOWS it was for her Hellbies shot, KNOWS it took 5 years to get the appointment and would thus probably take another 5 to reschedule, and KNOWS Blitz personally sent the two most capable combat specialists he knows to save him in his stead as soon as he possibly could. Honestly I wish Blitz would've gone all mama bear at that shit and torn Stolas a new one like "EXCUSE YOU, WOULD YOU LET VIA GET RABIES FOR ME?! BC IF SO I DON'T NEED TO THINK ANYMORE, MY FEELINGS ARE FU-" like OF COURSE he's going to choose his daughter over you dude. THAT'S HIS DAUGHTER.
@abloodraven3856
@abloodraven3856 28 дней назад
"Stolas would do the same damn thing as Blitz if he was in the same position caught between Blitz being in danger and needing help and Octavia's life being unavoidably at risk everyday for 5 more years if she didn't get a vaccine" Honestly, considering his behaviour in Shooting Stars... I'm actually unsure if he would prioritize Octavia over Blitz. Stolas has been shown to spy on Blitz multiple times, and even interceded once to save IMP's ass from DHORKS. Despite all of that, he doesn't attempt to scry for Octavia while looking for her, and gets distracted hilariously easy when Blitz is forcibly side-tracked into the dumb sitcom, leaving Loona as the only one actually looking for Octavia. There's also him prioritizing bringing Blitz along and flirting with him constantly on a day meant to cheer his daughter up, and prioritizing fighting with Stella over a day out with his daughter that she'd been looking forward to for *years*. Blitz would prioritize Loona over anyone else (Including his own well-being, considering how he went out for her even after the utter fucking trainwreck for him that was Ozzie's), but Stolas' own behaviour shows him constantly prioritizing himself and his own wants over Octavia, even when she's practically crying out for help.
@alibrennan5977
@alibrennan5977 29 дней назад
Blitzø: Oh Stolas. That’s…..a romcom Me: Big deal. You’re already in one!😂
@milkflavored
@milkflavored 29 дней назад
Right? WE’RE the ones watching Helluva Novela
@falconeshield
@falconeshield 29 дней назад
​@@milkflavored"Aye why won't you LOVE ME Alejandro!"
@crazypandabee
@crazypandabee 29 дней назад
The funny thing is, I had a dream about Stolas living with Blitzo and working for him, about a month or so ago lmao. Octavia was there too and they were arguing like a married couple.
@acesinger6092
@acesinger6092 29 дней назад
Imagine your dream just predicted how these two end up🤣 Also these two already fight like a married couple
@falconeshield
@falconeshield 29 дней назад
​@@acesinger6092Ep 2 S2 was the closest to them being boyfriends in the show. 😢
@Sacredsword
@Sacredsword 29 дней назад
Not only has Blitz apologized in front of Stolas, he's apologized to Stolas. Two and a half times. He said he was sorry that he couldn't rescue Stolas because he was taking Loona to the doctor/vet, and he said he was sorry after the clusterfuck disaster that was Ozzie's. But I suppose asking Stolas to remember every word Blitz has ever spoken is a tall order, especially when the feefees are so strong.
@megankissinger8269
@megankissinger8269 27 дней назад
After Ozzie's, he only apologized for not coming in - he didn't apologize for using Stolas for their date. It's still a start, though.
@danielferrieri7434
@danielferrieri7434 29 дней назад
Stolas: When have I ever looked down on you?! Stolas from the Pilot and All of Season 1: Are we a Joke to you?
@valentinkambushev4968
@valentinkambushev4968 29 дней назад
And not just Blitzo. Ironically, he looks down on Blitzo the least. Just look at how he talks to the M&Ms and the wrath imps.
@_Dar_29
@_Dar_29 29 дней назад
​@@valentinkambushev4968 And how he treats his butler. Poor guy needs a raise.
@red-rr3is
@red-rr3is 29 дней назад
​@@valentinkambushev4968moxxie and millie literally never disrespect him and he treats them like shit, like WHAT
@SecretMagician
@SecretMagician 29 дней назад
​@_Dar_29 regardless, the guy's living it up offscreen with his bisexual polyamorus group.
@red-rr3is
@red-rr3is 29 дней назад
@@SecretMagician dude has bitches
@caseking3656
@caseking3656 29 дней назад
The use of yakity sax during the montage of Stolas being demeaning to Blitzø absolutely killed me
@oluakinyemi8658
@oluakinyemi8658 29 дней назад
Is it bad i thought of mlp first
@falconeshield
@falconeshield 29 дней назад
​@@oluakinyemi8658Na man you're good. I think of Silent Hill 2 and Maria following James with PH coming to kill both
@geardog24
@geardog24 29 дней назад
Some relationships like Blitz and Stolas are just so broken and toxic that separation is honestly the healthiest option. And while we all know it’s not going to happen, maybe it should be permanent.
@falconeshield
@falconeshield 29 дней назад
Yonder or Fonder. We'll see.
@Notyouraveragename
@Notyouraveragename 29 дней назад
💯💯
@CipherRage0909
@CipherRage0909 17 дней назад
Couldn't agree more. Their relationship is just so toxic and unhealthy. I don't know why people even ship these two. Because they're both guys? Biltzo is just always annoyed around Stolas while Stolas always acts as a sexual predator around Biltzo. It's extremely uncomfortable and awkward at times to watch. Having them separated should be permanent- Period!
@Sheeshdear
@Sheeshdear 3 дня назад
Speaking facts for real
@pyroyuy
@pyroyuy 29 дней назад
The fact that Stolus calls it Hallows Eve makes me think it's the night before Halloween
@trevorminton6084
@trevorminton6084 29 дней назад
It would make sense for the human world too. Usually adults have their own parties the day before or after Halloween and then the actual holiday is for their kids
@rozahlynn
@rozahlynn 29 дней назад
Halloween lands on All Hallows Eve, October 31st, which is the eve of All Hallows Day- November 1st.
@coolmanplayz438
@coolmanplayz438 29 дней назад
"all hallows eve" is the 31st, but that being said, before the holiday became Halloween, it was traditionally a festival celebrated on the 30th, 31st, and 1st, in honor of those who had passed on. The costumes were to ward off evil spirits, and offerings were left to your loved ones who had passed on. In its oldest form, it was called "Samhain" (pronounced Sow-win) and was celebrated at that time of year because it was believed the line between the spirit world and the physical world was thinnest on those 3 days.
@Pineapple_Cheasecake
@Pineapple_Cheasecake 29 дней назад
All hallows eve is original name for Halloween not the day before Halloween.
@falconeshield
@falconeshield 29 дней назад
Thanks to this episode if I ever meet a summoned demon I'll offer him cake
@thediamonddragon1369
@thediamonddragon1369 29 дней назад
I'd also like to mention that in that beginning part he says, "I sorried Fizz so hard he cried!!" when it was him who cried 😢. So he lied about that
@falconeshield
@falconeshield 29 дней назад
Blitz not admitting to vulnerability gasp
@thediamonddragon1369
@thediamonddragon1369 29 дней назад
@falconeshield I know typical blitz 🙄, but i didn't recognise that he lied first time through it was on second hearing that I thought on about it and realise how cleverly sneaky the writing was there
@chartreusemaiden604
@chartreusemaiden604 29 дней назад
But if stolas did loose everything. Then Blitz would be fulfilling his promise as a kid. OOOOOOH that could've been foreshadowing. Ooooohooohoohooo*clapping like stolas*
@milkflavored
@milkflavored 29 дней назад
That’s exactly where they’re going with it. That and Moxxie’s constant bitching about needing a better receptionist
@yuinyaH
@yuinyaH 29 дней назад
please god let this happen because it would be so fucking funny
@falconeshield
@falconeshield 28 дней назад
"Oh Blitzy, Loopty phoned."
@cussundriakneal9904
@cussundriakneal9904 29 дней назад
Okay, my favorite thing coming out of the fandom right now... is everyone making montages of Stolas being demeaning towards Blitzø in varius goofy songs in response to Stolas' denial. 😂😂😂 We're all just CLOWNING on this oblivioys birb
@Mary-bp8xf
@Mary-bp8xf 29 дней назад
2:15 This could be actually a reference to when they met as kids too, because then Blitz takes(steals) a bag but now that they are adults he brings it. From a storytelling point right now this seems weird but when you look at it visually you see the similarity, for example, both times bags are thrown over the balcony(I am not sure is it the same one though)
@Depresso_Cappuccino
@Depresso_Cappuccino 29 дней назад
finally, something to eat midnight snacks to
@Summertime_sadness777
@Summertime_sadness777 29 дней назад
Stolas needs a friend. Not a lover, a friend. Then he could start to get better, then get back with blitzø.
@josiahtheawkward6008
@josiahtheawkward6008 29 дней назад
23:57 Remember at the end of Ozzie’s, where he says “I’m sorry” after he declined Stolas’ attempt to have a drink at his place?
@falconeshield
@falconeshield 29 дней назад
Sometimes I wonder if you guys are being semantic. Stolas meant if Blitz was ever sorry and said so with risk it wouldn't be accepted. He did that with Fizz but Stolas didn't know that.
@rashan141
@rashan141 14 дней назад
@@falconeshield But he's still WRONG, that's the problem. And I dislike the show acting like Stolas is the only one changing when throughout most of S2, Blitzo has been doing some of the most active encouragement/apologies compare to Stolas.
@neonstarch3210
@neonstarch3210 29 дней назад
Sadly, there are two things that are keeping Blitz and Stolas from getting together....Blitz's love of green apple flavored candy and his dislike of Dum-Dums and Jolly Ranchers.
@nikispade1350
@nikispade1350 29 дней назад
XXDXDXD The best video to come from this ship XD I'm sp proud of this fandom for that treasure
@SpoopySquid
@SpoopySquid 29 дней назад
I understood that reference
@FabschOblivion669
@FabschOblivion669 29 дней назад
It’s almost like Season 1 Stolas is a completely different being than the Stolas we currently have and the show seems to treat that old Stolas was never a thing.
@TheDapperDragon
@TheDapperDragon 29 дней назад
Vivzie's writing in a nutshell. Don't worry about what happened last episode, worry about what's happening NOW.
@SpoopySquid
@SpoopySquid 29 дней назад
​@@TheDapperDragonher work comes off as being built around scenes designed to be clipped out of context and shared/memed by fans
@megankissinger8269
@megankissinger8269 27 дней назад
Weren't there a lot of romantic hints dropped by Stolas in season 1, though? I've never thought of "knight in shining armor" or "darling" or inviting someone out to a festival as sex only, but that's just me.
@ReaIHuman
@ReaIHuman 29 дней назад
I'm just here to watch the dumpster fire.
@lupinrangerjoker
@lupinrangerjoker 29 дней назад
What some people don’t know or realize that was confirmed by Brandon Rogers aka the voice of Blitz is that Viv already knows how helluva boss is going to end and he and some others knew how it was going to end near the start of the series. So this isn’t some writing and changing things up because how the fans will react like other shows no Vivian has a vision and an ending for Helluva Boss. Hazbin hotel is a different story since it all depends how many episodes the studio is allowing them to have per season.
@jknetwork6211
@jknetwork6211 29 дней назад
Stolas fans: “Just be patient! Stolas will get called out.” Yeah like by the end of the year in December. What they don’t realize is we have to wait MONTHS for these episodes like the next one won’t even be about stolas it’ll be about blitz and his issues again. This show spends more time calling out blitz than it ever does stolas People say “but viv does know Stolas is also wrong! She didn’t forget!” Yeah and she said Millie would get her own development and we’ve been waiting YEARS for her to get some. The most we got was in that cringe camp episode which was mostly overshadowed by moxie’s issues and blitz’s thing with barb. The other was a short with Sallie which was rushed cause it was a short. Face it Millie still gets done dirty despite what viv says so unless she actually shows that she will call out stolas I’m not buying it. Her word isn’t enough. Action speaks louder than words. So yeah it’s fair of sarcastic chorus and people like us to criticize the writing we see right now. Stolas hasn’t been called out by anyone in the show except blitz and Octavia. Eveyone else babies him like he’s the victim. While blitz is treated like a monster and octavia as overreacting.
@valentinkambushev4968
@valentinkambushev4968 29 дней назад
Honestly, Viv's word has as much weight as a feather.
@turbo_jake
@turbo_jake 29 дней назад
It’s fine to discuss the fact that he hasn’t been criticized much and state your hopes for it but it’s a little much to actually call it bad writing in a situation where we know the stolas criticism we want is coming and we all agree that the blitz criticism is accurate is a little much 💀
@endertuber8300
@endertuber8300 29 дней назад
Also, just because it's not Stolas' turn to be on the spotlight of "you sucks, get a hold of yourself", doesn't mean they have to IGNORE his issues... It was so frustrating when in the latest episodes, everytime Blitzo had any right reason to be upset or was wrongfully called out, they glossed over that fact and turn it so that Stolas was in the right... in the latest one, Stolas brings up the fact Blitzo ignored him when Striker kidnapped him, and the writing totally glosses over the fact Blitzo had to take Loona to get her annual shots that she was waiting for five years (you know, being an actually good father, something Stolas should understand but, woopty fucking doo, Stolas being a shitty parent, who would've guessed it) and still sent the M&Ms to save him... which they succed at. I can't wait to see, when/if Stolas will be actually called out, the horde of people telling it's not true and he was actually perfect, because that's the framing of him thus far in the show's eyes... even when the facts says otherwise...
@unlimon6382
@unlimon6382 29 дней назад
I'm sorry but judging writting solely by the way you consume it is just inaccurate. I agree that it's taking long in general, but having to waut months matters little when what's really important is the story itself. If we applied that logic to anything we'd only approve of episodic shows. Yes, media takes long to produce. However, having to wait months for a release is more of a contextual explanation for your feelings than a statement on why it is poorly written. The pacing is kinda off sometimes but it's not as terrible as y'all put it. People complained when there was no progress with fizz and it was all sudden. Now you complain because there was a big argument and so far only one side has been adressed in a full episode when it was dealing with a handful of stuff. I agree it was not perfectly balanced, but to say it's bad writing you need more than that. Also, I'm sick of people saying "everyone else treats stolas like a baby". He's not the MC so he doesn't interact woth that many characters, but, as you said, via and blitz critisised him. Then, he has two guys who hate him and want who kill him, a butler that appeared maybe twice that is potentially somewhat nice to him, Milly and Moxie which are neutral to him except that one time they kinda felt solly for him when he almost died, his wife that hates him, Asmodeus who seems also rather neutral to him but they get along more than others and that Stolas seems to kinda like, and now verosika and her employee who were the only ones to treat him like an innocent guy because she is blitz's rightfully bitter ex and literally threw a party that was called obsessive by Stolas himself to hate on blitz with no context. Again, I agree he's not portrayed the best, but the amount of people who overdramatise his treatment much like you is insane.
@shadowfox2730
@shadowfox2730 29 дней назад
In my opinion, he's not a good written character. Both Blitzo and Stolas have a lot of problems, but since Blitzo gets more screen time. His problems get solved, while Stolas just started to get some more screen time, but that was not enough, especially getting to this major plot. Stolas needed more screen time to get to his other issues before this.
@thesupernaturalhouse
@thesupernaturalhouse 29 дней назад
As much as I'd like them to end up together, when you really look at things......it shouldn't happen. It's like their trying to retcon/rewrite season 1 because they *didn't* look ahead and are now desperately trying to backtrack to make stolitz canon in the end
@Takejiro24
@Takejiro24 29 дней назад
I heard Stolas was initially supposed to be a villain. Is that just for the pilot or was it in Season 1 before getting changed during the show?
@valentinkambushev4968
@valentinkambushev4968 29 дней назад
Yeah, it's painful obvious they didn't think about this while writing the old episodes.
@thesupernaturalhouse
@thesupernaturalhouse 29 дней назад
​@@Takejiro24apparently Viv had no clear plan for helluva boss, and I think that it was in the pilot, then changed cause Viv liked how 'cute' stolitz was
@SammyRobinson62232
@SammyRobinson62232 29 дней назад
@@Takejiro24 And what’s so weird a lot of people are like “Stolas is a much of a more complex character now” When no. He’s literary treated like an uwu sad boy who can’t do anything wrong Both by the fandom and even the show. Fight me on it
@thesupernaturalhouse
@thesupernaturalhouse 29 дней назад
​@@SammyRobinson62232I 100% agree, Blitz makes very valid points- ofc Blitz isn't 'innocent' in this whole mess but when you compare the mistakes if the two together.....Stolas takes the cake 100%
@reeceford7640
@reeceford7640 29 дней назад
I know my last relationship was fucked up bc apology tour was like holding up a mirror to the shit we put each other through for 2 years. They had the exact same insecurities and bad habits as blitzø, and I definitely had a social power imbalance over them, and dropped small hints and kept giving outs bc I felt like I was taking advantage of them. We literally decided to have a sexual relationship in exchange for emotional support bc we were both in bad places and had just been hurt. That was how it started and then we both caught feelings (obviously). Every interaction between Stolas and Blitz gives me flashbacks and it’s humiliating. It even tracks as people often only blamed them for our issues, when I was also to blame for not being direct and ignoring the social power imbalance. Each episode makes me cringe bc of how accurate it is.
@IcyDiamond
@IcyDiamond 29 дней назад
I’m saying I’m praying for Stolas’ downfall, if he has to end up working for Blitzø I’d love that :D
@discoshark7767
@discoshark7767 29 дней назад
3:28 you also have to remember in full moon in the very beginning it says it’s SEPTEMBER on Stolas’ magic calendar alarm clock thing- all sorts of confusion
@falconeshield
@falconeshield 29 дней назад
I'm assuming the mortal world clock and the underworld one doesn't match 100:
@VGwritesalot
@VGwritesalot 28 дней назад
I just double checked this and it does not
@sorceresssophia2949
@sorceresssophia2949 29 дней назад
I’ve never actually been less okay with them not ending up together, because last episode completely convinced me that Blitz is in love with Stolas and I find the idea of them not ending up together if that’s the case really depressing
@milkflavored
@milkflavored 29 дней назад
Exactly how I feel. And it would also kind of invalidate Stolas’ feelings by implying he got over Blitzø that fast. They’re both doing the work now, but there’s no rule that you can’t support your (potential) romantic partner while they change
@falconeshield
@falconeshield 29 дней назад
I mean we FINALLY got confirmation Blitz might've fallen for Stolas post his nightmare against the Dhorks. I can live without Stoliz but it's about time that was addressed.
@Lenelindgren
@Lenelindgren 25 дней назад
I absoluteley agree
@susansparrow
@susansparrow 29 дней назад
I can't forgive Stolas for hiding behind his menu.
@valtriste
@valtriste 29 дней назад
all the date was blitz ignoring him and stolas hide after they humiliated him and mentioned his ex wife and daughter in front of everyone 🧍
@yes.1374
@yes.1374 29 дней назад
Also him getting up from his seat ready to leave when Ozzie was approaching him. Quite shitty taking into account that Blitzø was cornered at that moment
@Axel_Kasai
@Axel_Kasai 29 дней назад
​@@yes.1374it was quite shitty blitz used stolas just to stalk moxxie and millie, but we ain't gonna talk about that 😂
@seeleunit2000
@seeleunit2000 29 дней назад
Fair. That's fair
@seeleunit2000
@seeleunit2000 29 дней назад
​@Axel_Kasai... That's already been discussed out the ass. Well it was terrible of blitz to do that and no one's justifying what he did when Moxie and Millie told him to stay out of it, Stolas is not blameless. And again, the owl started the whole sex for services situation in the first place
@masqueraid988
@masqueraid988 29 дней назад
Put your therapist glasses on Fizz. You may be our only hope. But honestly, please just have Blitzo go to Fizz and tell him about what happened. Fizz has a healthy relationship, and would see the red flags in both. Fizz starts with what Stolis did and then asks what Blitzo did in response. Fizz would also go off on him, causing Blitzo to leave. Fizz upset, and genuinely wanting to help Blitzo now, would talk to Oz about how he doesn't know what to do. Oz decides to call Stolis to his office, and Fizz would say he is going to surprise Blitzo with something(while implying it involves horses) and blind fold him. Then have Oz teleport Blitzo into the office, while the King of lust and his boyfriend dig these guys a grave, and trows them in to figure out their shit.
@kaycings9844
@kaycings9844 29 дней назад
I would love to see a conversation between Fizz (or Oz) and Stolas (after Blitzø has told him everything and Fizz has told Oz ofc) and see them tear him apart about the power imbalance. Clearly it’s something they’ve struggled with (see: crooked) and deal with on a regular basis in a healthy way. I think Asmodius would be SCANDALIZED by the way Stolas actually treated Blitzø and the transactional nature of their relationship.
@knightgale2120
@knightgale2120 29 дней назад
The amount of people now pointing out stolas is gold, it was always framed that blitz was the main issue but never looked at stolas and ignoring what he did originally even if he attempted to change it
@SammyRobinson62232
@SammyRobinson62232 29 дней назад
I ain’t going to lie. Sassy Stolas made me wanted to punch a hole in the wall (just joking but still) I also hate whenever people try to point out Stolas flaws. Another defense is “oh you just wanted the show to explain their feeling” No we want to have Stolas to be held accountable just for once. I also will get jump for this. But it feels like Viz and the writing team didn’t plan the series at all. Which is why there’s all of these retcon
@megankissinger8269
@megankissinger8269 27 дней назад
So maybe my memory is off, but didn't Stolas do a lot of romantic hints during season 1, too? I always considered his use of "knight in shiny armor," "darling," complimenting him on fighting, etc. I know a lot of sexual comments were mixed in there, but I always took it as a sign of romance.
@universalpower419
@universalpower419 26 дней назад
No offense but You need to touch a lot of fucking grass
@Totalycrafted
@Totalycrafted 29 дней назад
I think Stolas saying Blitzy instead of Blitz isn't him being condescending, it sounds more like he's using it as a cutesy pet name and thinks Blitz likes it
@ValeriaPaper
@ValeriaPaper 29 дней назад
That's the thing. *Stolas* thinks it's cute. *Blitz* might see it as condescending.
@G.D.G.
@G.D.G. 29 дней назад
Heres the issue: Blitz has multiple times told him that he hates the nicknames. Why continue using them?
@Rayla150037062
@Rayla150037062 28 дней назад
Stolas calling Blitz, Blitzy wouldn't be a problem if the nickname was consensual. Blitz made his distaste for his nickname quite clear with Stolas.
@malevolentghost5734
@malevolentghost5734 29 дней назад
Loving your commentary on this series, your criticisms are reasonable and your rants on the characters writing is fun to listen to!
@indigospyder8029
@indigospyder8029 29 дней назад
"Babe, wake up, another Stolitz video just dropped." "No." "Understood, carry on."
@falconeshield
@falconeshield 29 дней назад
Hey no one more doesn't hurt
@star-iu1ej
@star-iu1ej 29 дней назад
stolitz is more complicated than the question did the chicken or the egg come first 😭
@Lenelindgren
@Lenelindgren 25 дней назад
Well, After years of thinking, now I have an answer for that question.
@sanctimoniouslocke3941
@sanctimoniouslocke3941 29 дней назад
Can we talk about how strange that party is? Like, conceptually? We can see that at least some of these people never had an actual relationships with Blitz; there are people there who he hooked up with, or who he just drunkenly made out with once (Denis). Are we supposed to buy that their brief interactions with Blitz were so traumatic that they now attend an annual "fuck that guy" party? We might assume that for the majority of the attendees, its just an excuse to get drunk and dance. There are worse ways to spend a Halloween. But then we see a lot of them having (seemingly) genuine emotional breakdowns, being comforted by other attendees. Verosika talks about the party like its a support group for people trying to "recover" from meeting Blitz, and it seems like that's how we're supposed to see the party. It's just... weird. To me, it felt like an attempt to further demonize Blitz to the audience. "Oh, you thought that Stolas was equally responsible for the implosion of their relationship? Nuh-uh, look at how many other people Blitz ruined!" Am I alone in this? 👀
@shadowwriter4538
@shadowwriter4538 28 дней назад
You are not the only one that thought it was strange to throw such a party. Believe me, I thought most of that party was pointless if not petty because I was certain most of those attending that party weren't just Blitz's exes. I'm sure most of them were just there to party because they were invited by Verosika Mayaday, who is a famous popstar, and they took it as that; them being connected to Blitz by being an ex or a one night stand just worked out for them. I honestly think that Verosoka, despite trying to say that she's helping them, is not doing anything other than preventing others from moving on with their lives but just trying to have an excuse to believe that others shared her pain when they probably do not. Besides, she cleary didn't know about what Blitz and Stolas were like and she just saw Stolas as another ex rather than knowing if he was really innocent and that Blitz screwed him over. Verosika may have had a right to be angry at Blitz but she can't assume that everyone else case is like hers, especially when you consider that she has a problem too regardless of her justified anger.
@sanctimoniouslocke3941
@sanctimoniouslocke3941 28 дней назад
@@shadowwriter4538 That would be a really interesting thing for the show to examine in detail; this idea that Verosika is so mired her trauma around Blitz that she projects it onto others in a really toxic way that prevents them (and her) from moving on. If that's what they were going for, though, I don't think it quite landed. I feel like we were supposed to take her speech at the end at face value, and see the party as a positive (or even necessary) coping mechanism for Blitz' exes.
@ibarawithagun
@ibarawithagun 29 дней назад
4 videos about one episode? pretty sure that's a record. i agree though; i'm praying on stolas' downfall. ...in a loving way.
@jami2543
@jami2543 29 дней назад
ngl i feel like the writing in the actual show for stolitz is pretty realistic - like, it makes sense that stolas hasn't been held accountable yet and can only start his self-reflection journey with octavia. the entire stolas self-reflection thing really begins in seeing stars, where he was about to apologize to octavia but octavia shut him down because she (very understandably) cared more about him just being there in the moment than him apologizing which, once again, is super fair. i feel like in that sitatution, it definitely would've been better for stolas to at least apologize to octavia the next day or something, but i find it realistic how in that situation you can think, "well, we're already over it, and it'd just bring up bad memories - we should just move on" but that only actually works when you've learnt from it, instead of just glazing over it and pretending it never happened which im assuming is what stolas probably ended up doing. then the next time stolas tries to be self aware is during his song at verosika's party but that instantly gets shut down which, although wrong, makes sense cause this isnt actually a "lets heal from our break up and learn to forget about our ex and use it as a learning experience and move on!!", its a "lets bond over the fact we all got our hearts broken by that loser jerk blitzo!!!" party. it also makes sense that blitz personally wont be holding stolas accountable in the super soon future, because he's just now understanding what HE's done wrong in the relationship. plus, he's realizing how much he wants/loves stolas; blitz is def not gonna point out stolas's issues while trying to apologize/make amends, cuz it'll just sound like an excuse to stolas who isnt self-aware enough yet - another reason why it'll have to be octavia or just stolas being smarter to get him to realize him to own up to his own mistakes. also is it just me or did that first scene in apology tour seem pretty in character? like i can understand blitz's thought process: he knows he messed up bad, but he's not quite sure how to fix it and he doesnt know how to talk about it, so instead he should just find something they both like which is- you guessed it: being in bed!! like have yall never fought with a friend or sibling and then when you wanna make up but you're not sure how to do it you bring up an thing you both like to forget about the fight? like ive done this a few times myself to my siblings (plus had it done to me), but it really only works if BOTH people want to forget about the fight and move on, which stolas clearly didnt want to do - also stolas being like "go away!! oh btw you were literally the worst for this and also there's this party about hating you" seems so accurate??? like its stupid for sure, but i cant be the only one whose seen this happen before?? like thats so petty-human of him to do anyways those were just my thoughts that ive been stewing up for the past little while, but please do keep in mind that im not justifying stolas or blitz or whoever; its more like im just saying the actions of these characters seem pretty realistic which makes them very available to sympathy which is why so many people are defending them. ill also be upset if they dont handle stolas's fixer-upper arc well and just give him a slap on the wrist
@paintbrush3554
@paintbrush3554 28 дней назад
It would show maturity of this show if they didn't get/stay together
@misabelrodriguez1163
@misabelrodriguez1163 23 дня назад
I can't help feel but still feel hopeful for them. Although I think it would be good for them both if they talked and agreed that they should separate for awhile to work on their personal issues first. And then see if they can still work out or not
@samiamtheman7379
@samiamtheman7379 28 дней назад
So can we talk about how literally all of Stolas's alternate outfits are better than his regular one?
@user-Jay178
@user-Jay178 29 дней назад
Yeah, Stolas and Blitzo both need to improve, and I really do wonder how they are going to make this work in a health relationship. Love your content and analysis videos.
@thyweebhub
@thyweebhub 29 дней назад
People seem to conveniently forget who really started this toxic relationship but y’all ain’t ready for that conversation. Just remember who initiated being sexual first
@milkflavored
@milkflavored 29 дней назад
And someone not only consented, but kept it going by picking up the telephone. So what are you really saying.
@crazedbadger1555
@crazedbadger1555 29 дней назад
Yeah, like the amount of people who forget that Stolas was drunk is astounding.
@RockCandy718
@RockCandy718 29 дней назад
Blitzo literally slept Stolas out of pity when he just wanted to steal the book. Stolas calls back thinking that Blitzo is ok with bedding him, since he already did once before. If Blitzo didn’t want the relationship to continue, maybe he shouldn’t have slept with Stolas when he had the choice not to.
@Comet346
@Comet346 29 дней назад
I mean Stolas was getting a bit flirty at first but that was probably because he was drinking strong alcohol, but then Blitzø started making the scene sexual
@ryancarson6962
@ryancarson6962 29 дней назад
⁠​⁠​⁠@@milkflavoredIs Blitzø agreeing to Stolas' transaction *really* giving consent? Blitzø was basically told that if he wants to keep using Stolas' book, he needs to bed him, keep in mind that Blitzø needs that book in order to run his business, its key to both his livelihood and that of his employees and adoptive daughter, Blitzø has *everything* to lose if he said no while Stolas has *everything* to gain if he said yes. Their transaction is *far* from an equal exchange and giving consent through that transaction is questionable at best, because realistically this is sexual coercion. In our world, if someone told you that you had to sleep with them in order to keep your business afloat, if you even implied that the person who agreed to this gave their consent, you would be called out for victim blaming. And the only reason Blitzø picked up the phone was because it was ringing *while he was being chased by a psychopath with a gun,* anyone would pick up the phone just so the ringtone wouldn't give their location away, and you know what Blitzø said the moment he picked up? That it *wasn't a good time,* which Stolas proceeded to ignore, why are you considering this damning proof that Blitzø consented to this?
@Aural4444
@Aural4444 29 дней назад
While I understand and respect your opinion, let's remember that the show will have 4 seasons, and that we are still halfway through season 2. It seems to me that it is still too early to draw conclusions, just enjoy the present
@gregvs.theworld451
@gregvs.theworld451 29 дней назад
I'll be honest, just because I think it's safe I imagine Stolitz are endgame, but it would be refreshing to have them both realize they're not right for each other but depart as close friends.
@Duckzrandoms
@Duckzrandoms 29 дней назад
16:24 he literally said to stolas that he has to take loona to a important shot and he was the one who sent m&ms to save him
@kurosakikun96
@kurosakikun96 23 дня назад
Being fair, that's probably the trauma talking, because Stolas seemed to originally make the call thinking of it as a fun little thing to serve as a "bonding" experience, it wasn't until Striker started to actually attack him that he realised how much shit he was in, and from there he ended up almost dying, and through it all Blitzø was nowhere to be seen, not even when he was in the hospital
@Axel_Kasai
@Axel_Kasai 29 дней назад
Surprised this was actually about how they're both wrong and not just a roundabout way to dunk on stolas again 😂
@HanakoFairhall
@HanakoFairhall 29 дней назад
Okay, I haven't actually watched this beyond the first minute or so(just got through the mini compilation of Stolas calling blitz by pet names and teasing him) But yeah, as much as I like Stolas and think his dad and ex-wife are awful, I do think he deserves to be called out for the following: Not picking up that blitz hates the pet names Showing little regard for him when he was in a precarious situation (seriously, did he NOT hear bullets flying by blitz and gunfire? Stop the dirty talk and save him!) Expecting him to suddenly know that he has real feelings for him when he's given him VERY little reason to know that Will likely think of other things, and your video may not be about that at all, but I like to guess, now to watch it and see what happens.
@shireenfaisal4950
@shireenfaisal4950 29 дней назад
It would be so interesting if you debated Danny Motta on this. He's very much team Stolas even if he has started acknowledging that he may have a small part to play in the relationship breakdown recently.
@greyblueme9711
@greyblueme9711 29 дней назад
Danny doesn't pay attention though. He forgets character names, plot lines, etc. Most of his reactions are just cheering Stolas on while not acknowledging anything he's done wrong, he's basically an average stolas supporter commenter.
@shireenfaisal4950
@shireenfaisal4950 29 дней назад
@greyblueme9711 Recently, he uploaded some lives. He actually reacted to a video by Sarcastic Chorus and acknowledged some of the points he made. I think of all his reacts, he's very ingrained in Helluva Boss.
@milkflavored
@milkflavored 29 дней назад
I wouldn’t watch Danny debate if you paid me. SC Is the kind of person who would pause the screen to zoom in and read the texts messages. Danny is the kind of person who barely catches that Stolas got a txt from Blitzø at all
@shireenfaisal4950
@shireenfaisal4950 29 дней назад
@milkflavored I swear he did. If you check out his community posts he always comments on the zoomed in texts. He has a running theory that Blitz isn't dyslexic or illiterate and the way he proves this every time is by zooming in on things he writes. Like the apology list in this episode. Everything is spelt correctly, he's the one who pointed it out.
@zolo49noname45
@zolo49noname45 29 дней назад
I'd be perfectly happy if both Blitz and Stolas could get back to a point of genuine friendship. I don't need them to be in a sexual relationship. There's supposed to be two more seasons after this one, so hopefully there will be enough space for that to happen. Having said that, I also don't want this to turn into the Blitz & Stolas show either. Other characters need their moment in the spotlight too.
@pulpypal953
@pulpypal953 29 дней назад
Very thoughtful and engaging video! ^_^ I would like to point out a third time that Blitzo apologized in front of Stolas: In S1 E7 “Ozzie’s,” Stolas suggests that he and Blitz “talk, watch a movie, or maybe cuddle,” with Blitz diminishing that because he feels Stolas only wants him for sex, followed by Blitz saying “I can’t do it tonight, okay? I’m sorry.”
@juuls___2177
@juuls___2177 29 дней назад
i dont know why i dont hear people talk about this but Stolas realizing Blitz never told him about Striker is that unlike the petty thieves that Stolas takes care of at the end of E2 S1, Striker has heavenly weapons (idk the full name). And if it wasnt for Blitz stopping him the first time Stolas couldve very well been dead. Whenever Blitz knew or not im surprised Moxxie never said anything. But the realization that Blitz knew about the hitman before he nearly died at his hands and didnt bother telling him must have brought him to a terrible (and false) conclusion that i honestly cant blame Stolas for
@marie-pierlarose4819
@marie-pierlarose4819 27 дней назад
In a recent live from Brandon Rogers, he said he was on Blitz's side and he's one of the writters, so I'm sure in a coming episode Stolas' behaviour is gonna be addressed
@AyameFyuu
@AyameFyuu 28 дней назад
I'm honestly surprise many people think Stolas isn't going to get consequences when it very much implied he very much going to have it. Like we have Octavia calling him out, they just first have to call out Blitzo and they can't both be called out at the same time. Their issues are both incredibly different and have to be handled differently, Stolas needs his daughter to tare into him and the other goetia calling it out or even noting how it just some fling. While as we see Blitzo needed to see how exactly he hurts others so I am eager to see how it going to be handled. So I say I be patient since it clear Stolas issues are going to come to a head~
@thehippesthippo677
@thehippesthippo677 29 дней назад
For this ship to work Stolas needs to be more self aware And blitz needs a new history
@belkapushistaya7785
@belkapushistaya7785 29 дней назад
Guys , i can confidently say that Stolitz CAN be a healthy thing. It just needs time and mutual work. Don't lose hope and just trust the journey
@milkflavored
@milkflavored 29 дней назад
I know you’re right but the instant gratification part of my brain doesn’t want to wait until s3 or s4 to get it 😂 I could be 💀 of natural causes by then
@derrickdaniels3955
@derrickdaniels3955 29 дней назад
Hopefully Viv can give it the writing it needs to work
@belkapushistaya7785
@belkapushistaya7785 29 дней назад
​@derrickdaniels3955 that's the hardest part actually
@belkapushistaya7785
@belkapushistaya7785 29 дней назад
​@@milkflavoredI guess waiting is just our part of this journey. Even if its shi44y
@falconeshield
@falconeshield 29 дней назад
We'll be 84 when these guys Breturn from their Brexit but it can work ​@@milkflavored
@a.t.9197
@a.t.9197 25 дней назад
Stolas has only ever seemed to care about what HE wants/needs from a relationship, not what Blitzø wants/needs and I hope this changes
@alemonyoyo69420
@alemonyoyo69420 29 дней назад
AYE IM SO FUCKINGEARLY
@DekodaDraws
@DekodaDraws 29 дней назад
lol finally
@ReaIHuman
@ReaIHuman 29 дней назад
Same
@kellystellmacher3865
@kellystellmacher3865 29 дней назад
Same!
@ZetatheSixth
@ZetatheSixth 29 дней назад
Honestly? I would think it'd be more emotionally resonant for them to not get back together. Two lovers who realize that there's simply too much between them to start over again, but ultimately better for it as the experience with one another helps them evolve as people. And if you're still wanting that type of relationship in the show, there's still Asmodeus and Fizz. But this is Vivziepop's writing, and if she wants something to happen, then it will happen, regardless of what would be best for the characters both in terms of story and tone.
@jordandouglass3813
@jordandouglass3813 29 дней назад
We defo need a major stolas reflection and growth character arc in the show. Cause without that it’s just feels like the series forgets that it takes two to tango
@RaccIsHere
@RaccIsHere 29 дней назад
Great video, great analysis, love your vids about Stolitz, and it really brings out how deep this situationship iceberg goes
@CamacanMMC
@CamacanMMC 29 дней назад
Just briefly on the timeline thing, I feel likes it's pretty possible the Blitz just hasn't touched his calendar (aka its behind). Because if you look closely at the calendar, there's 3 more pages after it, so 3 more months in this year. So unless Full Moon happened in September and we had a month timeskip, Blitz just hasn't changed the calendar (which based on the stains and tears on it seems likely).
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