How cars infrastructure is destroying America with Jessie Singer 

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“There are no accidents, only happy mistakes” -Rob Boss

as soon as she mentioned Holes In The Swiss Cheese, i knew she knew what she was talking about deeply. For anybody who doesn't know, The Swiss Cheese Metaphor is a great way to explain the best practices for implementing safety procedures. Holes in the swiss cheese are considered dangerous situations, and the cheese is considered a safety procedure or mechanism. With only one layer of swiss cheese, you're going to have a bunch of holes in your safety procedures that create dangerous situations. The more layers of swiss cheese you have, the less likely it is for a path towards a dangerous situation to be found. Multiple layers of safety are often required to ensure the safety of all involved. A real life example of this swiss cheese method is the story of that bike path in New York, people were driving distracted and not reading the signs that said a certain part of the road was a bike path, and would end up hurting and killing people. By adding bollards to the path, drivers realized they weren't supposed to go there because they'd slam into the bollards if they tried. That's multiple layers of safety in action; there isn't just signage, but a physical barricade preventing cars from driving on the bike path. edit: i also love 1:10:37 there, where Singer talks about her dad saying "pretend like everyone else on the road is a moron." that's a form of risk-assessment I developed naturally through years of sim racing experience. I often got myself involved in crashes and wrecks in the sim that weren't my fault, and the only choice I could have made to prevent the incident was to just not have my car in that position on track in the first place. Eventually I got fed up with it and started driving a lot more passively, and started telegraphing my moves on track so the driver ahead or behind knew definitively where I was putting my car. As soon as I put that mindset to use, I got involved in fewer crashes and started finishing higher on average *specifically* because i pretending everyone around me is a total idiot. Making passes and blocks that remove any ambiguity for the other driver(s) means I'm giving myself more control in those situations, which allows me to make the situation as safe as I want it to be rather than relying on the other driver being smart - which, in the sim where there's no risk of injury, is a rarity.

I've been riding motorcycles for 15+ years and working in construction for 10+ years and I never thought of applying the hierarchy of controls to things off the job site. Really interesting interview.

Ryan thanks so much for your channel and viewpoints and expanding my own. I’m an ER nurse and you get victim blaming baked into your mentality quickly when you see lowest common denominator after lowest common denominator roll in hour after hour. Thank you for expanding my viewpoint towards the systemic and the corporate corruption that is destroying our country. I don’t know why my lefty brain didn’t extend the same radical empathy to bikers. Legalize lane splitting. And improve public transit. And yada yada yada. Thank you.

Everyone who isn't in a car is on the same team. People hate lane splitting because they hate sitting in traffic.

The idea of a vehicle being unable to speed absolutely terrifies me. I'm Australian, and I hope by now we all know what Australia is like when bushfires happen. I've seen fires travel at upwards of 90mph, any vehicle that can't go faster than that isn't worth having. Any "Smart" system is dumb if it doesn't have an emergency override.

Yooo Squid I'm absolutely loving the longer videos from you! You're an excellent podcast host and interviewer, asking great questions and you clearly prepared enough to have the necessary subject knowlege but didn't act like you're the definitive expert. I'd love to see you guest on some other podcasts to get some exposure for the channel and share your voice, may I suggest Well There's Your Problem? Would be cool to do an episode on the history of the motorcycle in general, MotoGP, the Aisle of Mann TT; there's a ton of motorcycle related "disasters" that would be a great fit for you and that podcast. If you haven't heard of WTYP I'll recommend the Vehicular Cycling and 9/11 episodes as good intros which aren't too depressing, and if you want to really throw yourself into the deep end check out their 6 hour 2-parter on the Titanic.

This interview has been somewhat eye-opening to me. I am about to go to college to study civil engineering with a focus in transportation. A lot of my thought is focused around how to make traffic issues better and how I can contribute to that through my own future career. This interview was extremely comprehensive, focusing on so many different issues that have each been added to my "library of thought." I imagine that a few points from this video, such as the effectiveness of dedicated and protected bike lanes, will be very influential to how I go about my education and what lies beyond. Thanks to both of you for all of that!

This is so good. Absolutely loved this, and I'm buying Jessie's book, I'd love to read it. I can't believe the level of content you're putting out and knowledge you're helping spread.

On the psychological part one thing with gear when styled right is you look like a complete badass and receive more respect in most cases. People fear officers and soldiers because of their tactical gear, same goes with construction workers, or someone in a hazmat suit. When you have an athletic build it helps even more. I wear full gear even though I drive like a complete squid not because of when I am going 130 but when I am going through the city or slower highway traffic. Yesterday I had a situation in Seattle while splitting where a car driver last second pulled out on me. I swerved but still caught his mirror with my bike mirror and it broke off. I also smashed my arm against his car but luckily I was wearing my gauntlets and the armored leather suit. I didn’t bruise anything. I recommend full gear but only when it’s comfortable and breathable. What it also does is make some car drivers take you more serious. Having the jacket on also will make you slightly more intimidating because of the bigger shoulders and back. I’ve had many instances where parents will be a lot more freaked out to let me talk to their kids because I look like some super soldier. Btw my buddy went down going 160 and he had full gear on. Recovering was much faster. Going down at high speed on the highway in certian areas wearing full gear helps. you will likely be just sliding, it will make it easier for the medics, For your recovery, even when your at the hospital you will be treated with higher respect because you had gear. One of my buddies crashed at 140 he had gear and so did I, when the police showed up he spoke to me with outmost respect. I’m not saying this will help with every situation or maybe most but having everything at a higher positive while enjoying your adrenaline rush is awesome. Calculated risk makes for long term fun.

Bike lanes for motorcycles!! 🥳 Such a great interview, thank you for sharing this!!

Watched the short then this last night, watching it again today. Great content man, keep it up!

Enlightening points, and engaging conversation. I really appreciated this one. I wear gear, in South Florida heat. I understand it's a small part of the equation, but it is the part that I can control. No matter my vigilance or skill, accidents are sometimes unavoidable.

This was a very well done interview. Really interesting guest, and good questions and insights. I also loved the visuals, that was a great touch!

So stoked for this

Thanks! These long form discussions are always great and the this talk with Jessie singer was just perfect. Definitely going to check out the book and rec this video. It's right up my alley. Love all your content!

This was a very informative interview. Thanks for sharing!

This was a great interview!

i think when it comes to safety and looking at traffic structure, its very important to consider what those other countries, countries that dont have that high pedestrian death rate, are doing correctly, and what we could be doing wrong. But there is a certain level of pride that america cant get over when it comes to their own ideas. We will take whatever we want from others but we cant seem to follow the trend of recognizing, and mimicking good, safe ideas and infrastructure. Its not about how much it costs, its about how safe everyone, not just cars, can be.

Thanks for doing this. I’m going to read the book now.

Book is high-key 🔥 11/10

Ok um as someone who drove through covid and watched the roads fill up they actually atleast around where I live drive worst I know thats not the issue but don't ignore the fact that lot of people haven't had to drive for 3 years other then at most a 3-5 minute drive to the grocery store and tend to drive extremely agressively and without and safety margine post covid. Although I do understand that it's systemic issue not an actually drive issue. But I would still make the arguement, because I see how rusty I get at other skills I do a daily basis I'm a butcher and everytime I go on vacation for a week or two when I come back I slower and make considerably more mistakes for the first week I comeback. When I went from spending most of my time cutting to wrapping to cutting again it took me almost a month to get back to the same skill level after having that 6 month gap where we didn't have wrapper. Samething applies to any other skill it comes back fast but not instantly and you make mistakes.

9:10 yeah, truck sides without guards there are scary to get around

Great interview!

Good listen during a big clean!

I have a recommendation for motorcyclist who lane split such I do; install running lights. Clearwater Lights of Sacramento, California a makes dimmable lights that I have mounted on the forks of my Ducati. I ride thru some dense traffic and these lights help me clear a path because motorists can see me approach due to the brightness of the yellow-tinted lights.

i love your videos so much :)😊

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I don't necessarily think motorcycles are the answer, but a piece of the puzzle: smaller cars, public transport I think one of the most effective things whe could do is putting trainlines between major connecting cities around the country it would payfor itself in efficency fairly quickly and cost people less. Ie seattle to san diego train and something similar up and down the the east coast and the midwest along with several traveling laterally reducing plane depency curious if you could run the train on a segemented schedule so inside of cities and around metro areas it could be used a a regular transport rail and say run it at night and have an hour block in each city at night when the considerably faster train is running between cities I don't really know just like the idea of being able to reasonable travers the country without requiring a car. Like cars, but think it would be cool if 90s or 80s sided cars when the standard again. But with modern safety and efficiency would be safer for everyone else on the road. Imagine a car 90s sized but modern tech I mean the closest approximation is a modern corolla hybrid. But honestly want something more mid 2000s accent sized 2300lbs modern safety and 80mpg or a ev with a small battery pack extremely good aerodynamics and weighing next to nothing where if you hit someone because it can and will happen you have much lower energy to transfer. Sorry I can rant sometimes.

I had a family member get run over and dragged down a walking path by a drunk driver. Horrifying.

I didn't watch the video I just wanted to tell you that you're one of the very few Americans that I actually agree with the opinions of, I am not sure if America is savable but I do wish your side of the political spectrum good luck ❤

Motorcyclist need protective lanes as we contribute dollars to the roads,where as bicyclists don't contribute a single dollar to roads and they disobey road rules more so than a motorcyclist. How many times I've seen a cyclist ride thru lights and over footpaths is beyond infinity haha!

Big brain time

As a truck driver, those guards were killing drivers. It's the unintended consequences of trying to solve a problem, and only looking at it from one side. Also, they were for "fuel economy" not "safety" and they will not in anyway stop a car. Here is the only way I can really explain this, to someone who doesn't drag a huge billboard around behind them..... stand on a roof, and hold a peice of plywood up in the wind... now hold a bigger peice? We are getting blown across the road, and off the road, and into cars. The "safty" aspect was an after thought, after they had already been pushed for fuel economy... I've always wondered if anyone was bright enough to put them in a wind tunnel? And blow from the side???? It's like the dot bumper on the back of a trailer, it was put there because someone famous died... but it won't stop a Volkswagen bug. It's 6 bolts, and we can't even hook a chain to them to pull them out of the mud, because they will break off... it was something to shut people up, that does not do the job it was designed for at freeway speeds. I've seen too many of them folded under a trailer, with a car under them. The reflective sticker across the bumper does more for safety than the bumper itself. I'm not saying that things can't be done to make things safer, what I'm saying is that that most of the time when things are done to fix a problem, they are not what they seem, and money, along with politics of the time, have far more to do with what is actually done, along with the natural tendency for humans to accept a quick answer, assuming their problem is solved... without looking into the unintended consequences.. than saving anyone's life does. They could make those bumpers stronger, but it adds weight. They could make the trailer skirting out of something less flimsy, and that air might actually flow through.... but a product is already marketed, it adds weight, and they are not going to change the delivery schedule so trucks can slow down, or pay drivers more to compensate for the miles and money lost... there is bureaucracy behind it, and that's the biggest part of the problem. We can change, but we are unwilling to pay the price in time, or money, to do it right, we just want to shut people up as quickly as possible when they complain loud enough to be heard, and then we fund whatever screwed up solutions with tax dollars, creating a new industry that is unwilling to change. As far as government, and most people are concerned, the problem is solved.... until enough people are hurt, or killed, or the right person is hurt or killed... then the process begins again...

On the subject of PPE and gear i wanna throw my personal standpoint in there (as stupid as its gunna sound). For context what triggered me commenting this was you speaking about your friends needing to wear their gear while going 130+ and how it might save them. Im from the uk we legally have to wear a helmet, which i do and gloves for control feel and they keep my hands warmer when spirited riding occurs, but thats it ill wear jeans and a hoodie for the most part in decent weather. I often get people say what happens when you come off at those speeds and you arent wearing gear and my answer is simple - i die. The point is that i understand the risks of going extremely fast and not wearing gear yes gear will protect me to some degree yes it may save my life however personally if i go down for any reason at 170mph i dont want to survive to find out what life changing injuries im going to have to live with. I dont rely on gear to keep me safe, i rely on my own ability awareness and skill to do that. The counter argument to that is that in the event that something happens that is out of my control (very likely) then gear will save me and i suppose thats the whole point in it in the first place, but even knowing that i still choose not to go ATGATT because i still feel that i am safer riding in a way that protects me than i would be wearing all the gear in the world i suppose its a kind of "keeps me on my toes" sort of thing if i wear all the gear i trick myself into a false sense of security or something i dunno but this mentality has kept me rubber down for 20 years so it is what it is

28:40 no this is clearly a bad idea for multiple reasons. 1 a computer will mis read signs and slam the brakes for no reason on the highway which could/will cause some nice crashes.

Have you watched the video essay by Some More News about how roads were designed to prioritize cars and all that? Seems like you already know a ton about the topic but it's a great video essay that really opened my eyes a lot to how/why bureaucracy does what they do and how as people/citizens we are low priority. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sayw3TOhykgl.html

I'm just about finished with EMT school and I'd like to impart a little helmet knowledge on y'all, full face motorcycle helmets are advertised as safer than the old fashioned faceless ones but that's not a actually true. God forbid you actually crash out and go unconscious EMTs are gonna have to pull that thing off your head to ventilate which has a decent chance of breaking your neck the faceless ones are designed so you can show up to the ED still in it and revive ventilations the whole time and If it fits right it should help to stabilize your spine and decrease your chances of spinal cord damage, just make sure you wear the strap. STAY SAFE!

30:40 the fix for this is super easy, just don't mix pedestrians with cars, you make a bridge over the road. The whole idea about make roads barely wide enough for 2 cars, no to little visibility has never worked and only makes it worse really. Splitting them entirely how ever is garuanteed to work.

no singing 0/10

I can relate to that stuff in the beginning. A lot of roads are buid dangerous by design in the Netherlands. They say its so people drive slower, like yeah right instead of making a safe road do that. Like so much can be prevented but they just don't want to acknowledge their road design is dumb.

Also I don't think race but just the amount of money you have has more to do with those statistics I feel like you're just taking away from the argument by making everything about race. Its just good areas are safer than bad ones.