Does HYBE treat NewJeans different compared to LE SSERAFIM and ILLIT? It appears so... Follow us on Instagram: bit.ly/3NWCjW1 #kpop #kpopnews #KOOKIELIT
Yes exactly they want everyone to forget about new jeans n start stanning ILLIT but bruhhh who’s gonna tell them that I’m a blink n we are clowns who waits for the longest time for our artist to comeback so if we stan new jeans then we’ll never ever will forget about them also their songs are BOP 😭
@@saeraenghae you in every video hating on NJ get a grip yall kpop stans truly blow me these idols yall worship dont know you so stop glazin em like they do u support a 51 year old man tryna control little girls your wats wrong wit kpop now yall all hop on the bandwagon tryna put these idol groups against each other youre a weirdo
Since MHJ is the evil queen, naturally you need to balance the power of your kingdom. If MHJ wasn't hated in every company she worked at, if she wasn't acting with such high threat, no one would need to balance the power. MHJ is the one affecting New Jeans because she is the evil queen. A king needs to be able to trust you to let you grow without balance. Everyone who has worked with MHJ knows she is a witch. MHJ is the one making HYBE do the sane thing, which is to balance. A conglomerate's best strategy by default is to balance, so MHJ needs to be very trustworthy for them to unbalance for her. She's the opposite, so ofc they won't do it for her. The second possibiliity is HYBE is aware MHJ groomed, gaslighted, and brainwashed NJ, so if NJ is MHJ's pawn then really they need to balance their labels and groups. It's the job of the conglomerate anyway.
@@Queendom-jd9ln how does this guy 3 likes and how is newjeans song rigged it's not there fault other songs sound familiar. It's the The producer fault
That’s why NewJeans members signed the petition in which they request to keep Min Hye Jin as their CEO. The media, clearly being paid by Hybe, twisted that and said NewJeans wanted to terminate their contracts to split from Hybe while they did not😭
@@O_o-simp Hybe is the one responsible for the promotions though all min heejin has is connections... Hybe gave njs 200+ media coverage for their debut no group under them has had that much ever
oh yeah? hybe let LSF focused on eastern market while NJ making money in Western. MHJ tried so hard in copying BP and BTS by having a brand deals for each of the NJ members as soon as their debut unlike LSF. MHJ left Soumu and create Ador, while letting LSF paid the debts. How people could be so blind? 😂
@@ukjentvesen2328oh you one of them little weirdos that thinks like this i seen u in every comment on this video hating on NJ people who are making money then your entire family please go get a job instead of worrying about people who dont know you exist this is truly mind boggling you make kpop fans look terrible
You truly believe this? That a very busy and important person has a grudge against teenagers? Lmfao. No he was avoiding the damage MHJ could cause if he so much as looked at them. Those girls would've been treated like princesses if that women didn't have full control of them. She weilded the girls like a weapon in her petty crusade. All while calling them selfish fat cows. He dodged a bullet by avoiding as much as possible. MHJ dug their grave for them and tossed them straight in. And that's too bad cause everyone likes them. She needs to leave the girls so they can rebrand. An executive doesn't hate on teen girls. Use your imagination here.
Hybe‘s First mistake was debuting Le sserafim first and breaking the promise just because of chaewon and Sakura joining tbh🤦🏻♀️ you can literally see how they promoted and treated other groups vs Newjeans
@@bartstarr6728 Lesserafim is not even ready at that point, they need to train a lot more but in the end they debut with their lack of skills and get hates for that. It's hard to shake off public opinions over their flaws, so even if they improve in the future, this ''tone deaf'' label will follow them for a long time.
@@vixxexo6855bro you literally just a nj hater lmao yall are so funny the fact yall go defend these groups and hybe with your life as if they even know you exist is truly crazy to me and i dont even listen to kpop like that and i can see you just a pure hater
@@vixxexo6855you should know, bts last comeback not good in sales and chart lol, Bsh didnt want Mhj and newjean big, coz he know Mhj not yes boss employee, and people always praise Mhj and newjean, not bsh or hbe
Newjeans must protected from Mr. Big Boar, they loves Min Hee Jin like their own biological mother. All members signed a petition to not fired her from ADOR
@@fenryon4449lol you should know, when newjeans member bow to BSH meet in lift, but he dont care, Mhj always protect them... İ m not Mhj side, but after newjeans member filled petition to support her, i m support newjeans member decision
You know what thinking of it like this give a new light to the games songs perfect night and gods bc we all said that the songs feel like they switched groups concepts and perfect night was so much more promoted than the newjeans song 🤔
@@user-gw1fm9bt9o This isn't a counter, it's full on propaganda which is why it's putting people off. People started realising that they're not getting the whole story and that there is an obvious bias when it comes to the gossip rags like kookielit, koreaboo etc. Way too many people don't even know that Min Hee Jin is most likely facing criminal charges
So why don't you talk about the court denied that Hybe 'edited-screen short Kakao' evidence 😂. And you only see one side that Hybe gave that evidence, why you don't tell everyone the result 😂😂😂. You are just a Hybe's imposter. That's an old trick.😂😂😂. Only silly people believed🎉🎉🎉🎉. Or you're just a silly person
New jeans will never be the mistreated group u all desperate want them to be. Lol the group got more MVS for their debut,performed at lollapalooza in their first year,got brand deals,spotify playlists etc.
@@kaskaraprovide😂😂😂😂 2023 newjeans is most profitable girlgroup for hybe😂😂😂 and you still said the Investment money😂😂😂 go eat some grass dude...your brain seem like just a fill fr your skull😂😂
@@kaskaraMHJ is also not a beggar this woman is hella rich and have enough power for promoting her group better than this hybe the only problem is her greediness
@@My_kpop_Staniel- you have not been paying attention then. She literally borrowed money from bang pd to buy shares in hybe lol. She got greedy that was her downfall!!
All 3 groups are under different companies. Aren't the brand deals, appearances, and celebration events negotiated by their companies? HYBE provides the funding and clout, but maybe Ador staff and management are focused too much on MHJ and not the artists. She sees their accomplishments as her success. Just read her texts.
i really dislike how bang sihyuk jealous to other people succes like dude "new jeans is also YOUR artists!" and now i know why this company create illit to be extremely similar to news jeans maybe it could be, If one day new jeans come out of the hybe, hybe still has "another" new jeans
I'm surprised no one else has talked about her NHK MUSIC interview, where she talks about her entire strategy behind NewJeans and how they were concealing the members identities as part of that strategy and how they wanted to release a music video because it'd show the girls better than any sort of promotional photo. And eveyone seems to forget that she planned this before illts debut i mean i know hybe isnt the best but supporting mhj is also not okay .if she really cared for new jeans would she have talked like that i mean everyone has seen the kako talk messages plus what does she expect after taking talented trainees under Source music and not expect them to make another group all the time and effort into training the girls she was supposed to debut them under source music but she wanted her own label so she was granted everything she wanted but source music was almost bankrupt after she took the trainees she the debut budget for lesserafim and new jeans. The budget for lesserafim was 😂 compared to new jeans and people seem to forget she leaked trainees helth records and private information thats why garam situation is so fishy like it started even before she debuted and was circulated so fast with few days everybody knew about even then there was a smeare campaign against hybe but in the end garam was actually innocent she defend her friend who was pictured without her Consent in underwear and the pictures were put on facebook and circulated in social media (i mean who wouldn’t help their friend) she shouldn't have been kicked out but because of the fake news and the information leak it got out of hand so i dont see how everyone believes she is actually good mhj got everything because hybe gave her everything the resources, talented employees and investment money she did not invest her own money hybe trusted her and gave her the money gave tax free stock options and anything she wanted but this was before illt debuted and the planning is so meticulous that but she says its a joke but in kako talk messages you can see the dates and when it was shown that mhj meet with investors she said it was casual meeting but initially she said she never She never met with anyone in any capacity in press conference she keeps contradicting herself and manipulateing people i just dont trust her mother image she created no mother would talk about her child like that in any context.
There's no proof that she leaked info of other group members And kakao talk chats are dismissed by the court already...😂fact check before saying ur delulu stuffs
YG treats their group better tho especially in payments, you can see (based on years ago tho) from the big 3 companies, YG paid the highest, and they could still took their group name and stage name if they decided to part ways with YG (IKON, 2ne1).
I don’t get why yah say they are mistreated. They are well paid, stay in a luxury apartment by the Han River, have their own fan interaction app Phoning, all help by HYBE but yet MHJ isolate them from everyone then throws it back at HYBE saying they don’t care about the members? Just don’t make sense to me. Everything they got was through HYBE connections, MHJ tailgated off of HYBE gave her what she wanted. She isn’t fit to run a company being emotionally charge like that. “Greed is the root of all evil”
Why they're mistreated? 1. They were said to debut before Lesserafim but they didn't debut first because hybe believed in LSF from than them. 2. Illit was given 100B won but NJ was given 16B won and hence there was no pre debut photoshoot or intro 3. BSH never greeted them acc to NJ's parents 4. They released Illit who had he exact same aesthetic, concept, sound, production, choreography and marketing strategy like NJ which was to sabotage NJ. The Ador staff has said that there was indeed copying. 5. NJ parents have complained about this more than MHJ so you're wrong that it's MHJ who's complaining
1. NJ didn't debut first because MHJ wanted a company for herself and don't want to debut the girls under SCMU....so taking out trainees, creating a new label from scratch and contract transfer...ofcourse there would be delays....plus SCMU now needed to debut a group since shes now gone to Ador...so should they put all business on hold for her?...Any promises made about her debuting Hybe first girl group wasn't contractual and verbal promise can change anytime in the business world ....plus it's her fault NJ didn't debut first. 2.Illit and LSF are Bang PD produced group...so ofcourse more money will go towards his projects...MHJ was given an investment and budget to work with...to see what results she could accomplish....she's an employee at the end of the day under Hybe....haven't you ever work before to reach a specific target in a company with the resource you have at hand?....and after her success with NJ....she was given 18% shares at the lowest price possible with money loan to her by BPD himself....with alot of incentives different from her original pay..lol....talk about compensation for her work huh..lol....It was also her strategy to debut the girls silently without promos out in the blue like that...she literally talked about it on an interview..lmao... 3. BPD also never greeted V for entire year....always didn't even remember who he was until V confronted him..lol....plus things between him and MHJ went sour when LSF debut first...staying clear from NJ was the best thing he did....they could have accused him of even more terrible things if he was close to or even look at them a way they might interpret incorrectly... 4.NJ has their own fandom and so does Illit....they are using the Y2K concept but totally have their own vibes....and news flash..one cannot gatekeep or own a concept...worse that these has existed before all of them were even born...one to two moves of similar steps in choreo isn't plagiarism unless they did the entire thing from start to finish...so do MHJ thinks only NJ can be Asain young girls with long black hair and uses minimal makeup and cute outfits?....So many groups in kpop looks the same...that even when they go international..many are mistaken to be BTS as they are the mostly well known kpop group worldwide....why this happens...because many asains just look similar😅...that's an unchangeable fact..lol 5.NJ parents need to sit their butt down if they don't want to become 50/50 parents....last time parents got involved in their kids career in kpop..it didn't end well...those parents are entitled and stupid....they have no control over what style Illit wants to use...NJ is doing their thing...but why are all so fearful of Illit? Is NJ afraid of a little competition? They are working..not in Kindergarten...if they can't handle the industry...then go home to their mommies. It's so funny that the same things they accuse Illit of...NJ they did all of them...hypocrisy at its finest....the industry is big enough for both NJ and Illit...both under different labels...NJ should be looking out for them than tearing them down.... and when the finger is pointed back at them...they called fowl?..lol
@multistan9582 I'm surprised no one else has talked about her NHK MUSIC interview, where she talks about her entire strategy behind NewJeans and how they were concealing the members identities as part of that strategy and how they wanted to release a music video because it'd show the girls better than any sort of promotional photo.
@@alejandrozuniga5783 because many are manipulated to believe everything she talked-about in her so called press conference as all facts....seens they forgot when her lawyer were in panic mode....because she be saying things that will eventually be used against her....and search her previous interviews....debunk what she says now in what delayed NJ debut...
This channel is totally biased why doesn't she reveal min hee jin being a pedo & chats where she called her fandom brainless but no mhj is total saint for them because they r nothing without mhj
When we said bang pd has his own favorites and for some reason he hates jin and sabotage him constantly everyone said he's a good person best boss ever lol now everyone saying how evil he is but noone cared when he emotionally tortured jin!
Hear me out... 1) Is it problem that Bang Si Hyuk didn't have any photo with new jeans?? If that's a problem... He doesn't have a pic with Illit members too... !!! I mentioned this... Bcaz in this video... you are keep on mentioning... He doesn't took any photos... 2) HYBE didn't treated new jeans well? They why does two members from new jeans made their appearance in PTD by BTS.... why didn't he use le ssearfim members..?? + I am not supporting either side... I don't know who is right and who is wrong... To the youtuber... No one does.. Who is a wrong person but as a youtuber.. Try to show both sides.. It seems like you only supporting MHJ!!! For the sake of your subscribers... Talk about the fishy stuffs done by MHJ... Stop draggin' the idols into the drama btw MHJ and HYBE I love all HYBE groups (no hate New jeans, Illit, lesserafim)
@@VvuAnzelika about katseye... they didn't even debuted but doesn't he have photo with them... its not like you should only see from mhj side.... while fromis_9 had also photo with him after 5 years of their debut Clicking photo or not clicking the photo is even a issue I mentioned above that cuz... in the video it keeps on saying he doesn't have photo with them doesn't with have photo with them!!!
This just sounds like MHJ never learned to stay in her lane and just a lot of speculations on what Bang is "feeling and thinking" and getting pedantic on perceived slights he had towards NJ
Those that sent hate are the haters. Only the one that truly care knows that this are all the dirty work done by Park Ji Won, Bang Si Hyuk and Belift Lab.
Im starting to think Min heejin has paid you kookielit cause we all know njs aren't getting mistreated if anything Mhj is the one pushing them away from the rest of hybe.... I've noticed your account has started posting things in favor of Min heejin.... You should know better
Okay now listen! If the girls love and trust MHJ which there are many proofs of her showing them love IS fired, and the one who is going to take over after is this vile disgusting jealous kid like CEO that obviously hate the girls, I’d rather support MHJ for the sake of Newjeans.
@@gia42472 have you seen the text messages mhj had and what she said about the girls??? I never get the people who defend that woman she's a pedophile who uses new jeans as shield she doesn't really care about them and is only saying stuffs like this cause she was caught trying to get ador to herself and also cause illit is gaining more popularity and streams at debut than new jeans at debut... The only one in delulu land is min hee jin and her supporter cause if living in a luxury apartment, getting paid 3 million a year being handed brand deals that wasn't earned but given due to connections and 200+media exposure every comeback is what y'all call mistreatment then I'd love to be mistreated like that 💀
Are you kidding me? I understand you guys wanting to talk about this issue, but not mention about how njs had A LOT MORE investment to debut than other groups… who tf care if the ceo talks with them or not? Njs had a lot more than other groups, using others groups names to promote them, mhj had a whole 16th floor to her, above big hit! Come one… I used to love this channel for unbiased opinions, but this circus just brings hate to everyone else to make NJs the victims. When the answer is just very simple, pack your things, pay your debts and leave! If they’re being so mistreated why do they want to stay in hybe?
not really illit was 150 billion won and NJ's investiment was far much less than that. And BPD appears to be pushing LS with all he got, but these girls are still lacking and he cannot accept that. BPD is just reeking with so much Jealousy that he did not make good choices as MHJ who was now clearly surpassing him. He should have accepted that girl groups are not his thing and let MHJ lead here instead of fighting and copying her the lack of creativity for ILLIT was too much and painful
New jeans is not being mistreated. They have regular comebacks, brand deals, popularity and is controversy free. If any group in hybe is being mistreated it is fromis 9
No you're wrong their downfall is clearly visible look at their resent comeback their yt views decreased you can't even find a single ad in any platform by their company fans are paying more than hybe for promotion
@@sonexcarat99 the issue is that even though you tell people that the groups (le sserafim and illit) are not to be blamed, people are still gonna hate them and attack them.. MHJ herself said that she wasn't accusing the illit members bc they're just kids and they're just following adults' orders etc... but did that stop people? this video itself features comments like "Le sserafim are HYBE's princesses afterall" people will keep saying such stuff, specially with the hate train going on i worry so much about them tbh... people keep saying new jeans are minors and should be protected bc they don't deserve it but then carry on hating on lesserafim and illit as if they deserve this amount of hate
I hope NewJeans never disband, especially with what's going on right now. And to make it worse, Bunnies are being called toxic for defending NewJeans, and NewJeans members are being hated for siding with MHJ. Before I made fun of Blinks and Armys for "being toxic" when they were actually defending their group. But after I started stanning NewJeans did I really realize how wrong I was. Newjeans is an emotion for me now. "You can only realize something after you experience it" - Me.
Hey Kookielit, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO POST ABOUT NEWJEANS PLAGIARISING JEANS FROM MEXICO? ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF JEANS, PATY EVEN ADDRESSED THIS ISSUE ON HER IG STORY.
i thought documentaries are only meant for people/group who left a significant mark in history or something like that (like BTS, BlackPink & Twice). i didn't know it can also be for a group who just debuted in like a few months, not to mention they were somekind of in the middle of the bullying scandal of Garam at that time.
Yeah, hybes favourite daughters, I’ll it and le sserafim can’t even sing, but the neglected step daughters can atleast sing and have talent (newjeans, fromis 9)
De onde vcs tiraram que o nwjs está sendo negligenciado?, investimento de bilhões, contratos milionários com marcas, melhores dormitórios de ídols. Melhores promoções e ainda são vendidas como irmãs mais novas do BTS, se isso é negligência eu realmente não sei.
That is not true. Because New Jeans can’t sing either. Le Sserafim may have members who are weak vocally, but atleast they have Chaewon and Yunjin. Meanwhile all New Jeans members are tonedeaf.
@vixxexo6855 all nj members can sing good not the best but they all can sing they're definitely not tonedeaf go get your ears checked and all yunjin does is scream she is definitely not that good chaewon is the only one that's actually good they should be grateful or kiss her feet cause the others of lesserafim damn
@@vixxexo6855I’ve listened to NJ live multiple times. Just random videos from my RU-vid shorts. They’re not tone deaf. I don’t think you know what that word means.
@@vixxexo6855have you ever heard hanni vocal have ever heard their celebrity cover even iu was surprised by their vocals their encore is so much better than lsf
I know some people are wondering why it seems like such a big deal that New Jeans should have debuted as HYBE's first girl group. It's a genius business move that would have built more hype and likely bolstered fan investment. When TxT debuted, they got so much hype for being the first boy group to debut under Big Hit after BTS's massive success and it worked so well in TxT's favor. More eyeballs were glued to them because they wanted to see if Big Hit could essentially do what they did with BTS again and for the most part, they did.....initially.....but they definitely targeted TxT more towards the Asian market despite most of the members speaking English pretty well. New Jeans should have been the first girl group to debut under HYBE. Not only would it have made HYBE look even better, it would solidify that HYBE is a force to be reckoned with when it comes to talent. Now HYBE looks like some clowns with two girl groups that debuted when they clearly were not ready and trying to overshadow the hype of New Jeans because Bang PD is jealous of their success.
If they will go on high haitus then they will become another Everglow 😭😭😭. I mean to say Everglow was too much popular before that 2 year's haitus took place.
Genuinely speaking, the amount of money they spent on promoting lesserafim and illit they could've spent it on promoting their boy groups, that way these girlie's could've gotten a bit training. New jeans is a talented group, and whatever is happening between the ceo and management should stay between them. Why are idols being dragged? I feel genuinely bad for illit and new jeans. Especially for minju and yunah who seem to be only members of illit who can sing. Bight never had luck with ggs, should've stick with bgs, they do it best. Anyways, I am following the #HYBE_boycott so yeah 💁♀️
Unfortunately, companies are not a democratic organization and in the end it is the owners and shareholders who make the decisions. This is how it works, from small to multinational corporations. If any contract is violated, they must sue or seek to reach an agreement. Unfortunately, a high-level dispute is affecting the artist of both groups. The only power that fans (customers) have is to decide whether or not to consume the product, as in any industry. Let's better support the artists of both groups who in the end are the ones who receive all the colateral damage.
he treats le sserafim and illit like they’re the best vocalist kpop group in the world💀 Newjeans is like his best, more successful GIRL group that he’s ever had and he wanna ruin it cus he’s what? childish? is he like allergic to success or sum? y’all over here hating on MHJ the whole time but never at his chubby ass? like huh??? he’s always been a terrible person as well and the way y’all are ignoring that is crazyyyy…
@@saeraenghae please bffr. u saying that as if illit didn’t plagiarize as well and saying that as if every kpop song doesn’t get popular off of tiktok. they aren’t the best from hybe, can’t even have stable vocals but u wanna call them the “best”, okay.
@@saeraenghae They should😂😂😂 for that 10 Times money invested for them by bong shiit hyuk...and did not get more success than newjeans...that means hybesuckeer and bong shiit hyuk is stupidd at it finest 😂😂😂😂😂😂
There is nothing such a dislike/like in Hybe as a corporate with a lot of stake holders' involved. Their orientation is money, not making dramas all over places. Do not get drawn with emotional drama presented by MHJ during PresCon. No one knows the situation inside the company after MHJ joined in. MHJ might have caused a huge managerial or money problem in Hybe.
lol always dragging other groups into the conversations and start fan wars. Hybe obviously did not mistreat them in terms of money. Le sserafim is the one who was mistreated , in terms of spending
Since MHJ is the evil queen, naturally you need to balance the power of your kingdom. If MHJ wasn't hated in every company she worked at, if she wasn't acting with such high threat, no one would need to balance the power. MHJ is the one affecting New Jeans because she is the evil queen. A king needs to be able to trust you to let you grow without balance. Everyone who has worked with MHJ knows she is a witch. MHJ is the one making HYBE do the sane thing, which is to balance. A conglomerate's best strategy by default is to balance, so MHJ needs to be very trustworthy for them to unbalance for her. She's the opposite, so ofc they won't do it for her. The second possibiliity is HYBE is aware MHJ groomed, gaslighted, and brainwashed NJ, so if NJ is MHJ's pawn then really they need to balance their labels and groups. It's the job of the conglomerate anyway.
I've read somewhere that MHJ took all source music trainees so bang PD felt bad and debuted lsfm so basically that's the reason why he is attached to lsfm bcz lsfm is his idea ...but I srsly feel bad for NJ for having MHJ their talent deserves better !!! hope hybe will give them more priority bcz they are the most succed gg of hybe at this point .
MHJ was hired to debut a girl group under source music. Instead of that, she wanted to debut NJ under her own label, so she took trainees from source music and left them without any income. They needed to debut another group as soon as possible.
Also, I'm sure that Sakura's contract had a hard debut window. She was already like 24 when signed so I doubt she would would want to be worrying about delays and stuff and she definitely had the power to include something like that, just like she had them agree not to make her the leader. And if so, when MJH delayed NJ's debut, they would have had to push on with LSF's debut anyway.
What a disgusting excuse for a human being…these are young girls caught in the middle of an ugly dispute. To not even have the courtesy or professionalism as a leader speaks volumes. I hope New Jeans smashes every single record and wins numerous awards and garners support and accolades, on a global scale. Success and happiness are always the best revenge.
but MHJ separated them from hybe, why hybe should care abt them besides the money from them. Leserafim is BSH`s group, does MHJ care about leserafim lol??? when she rejected sakura and chaewon. And hybe already has ILLIT so jeans just need to be ready to long vacation))))))))
