how does tf2 decide who gets the assist? 

FAQ - TRY DO THIS IN THIS ORDER this information is confirmed by looking into the code, not learned by testing. this means that even if i didn't show something in the video, the information i've given you can be safely trusted. obviously, because of the numerous combination of things to test, i can't create an exhaustively comprehensive demonstration of everything - so for stuff like the medigun, i opted not to show every combination of order and weapons. though i fully expect you nerds to think of some other wild edge cases that even i haven't thought to test and there'll be a part two :)))) also, update on the sapper stuff. sapping with another spy doesn't change anything. not 100% sure why but there's nothing new to report, so no part 3. (blanket disclaimer: idk if what i said makes sense, i didn't sleep well so i'll come back later to edit this with proper english if it sucks) thanks for reading, here are some bonus thumbnails: i.imgur.com/rOsjLXd.png i.imgur.com/AMyh1ZK.png

"If I shoot someone and they die, I'm the killer" Wow that was the shortest mystery novel I've ever read.

1:41 "For debuffs, it tiebreaks by ordering the weapons by release date." I wouldn't expect anything less from Valve developers.

The most important assists are pet accesories while in pyroland.

A lot of weird kill credit in the past makes sense now. Great video as usual.

3:23 "This is a 10,000$ custom-tailored Louis Crabbemarche jacket. The cloth is from silkworms raised at a suit microfarm in Tuscany, from a secret pattern passed down by monk tailors since the 7th century."

Fun fact you forgot to mention: if a pyro reflects a stun ball at an enemy player who then dies, the assist goes to the enemy scout. This can results in sometimes an enemy scout getting an assist in his own death.

It's amazing how you keep finding questions to things that are so interesting, yet I never really thought that hard about before. You're pretty much the only TF2 content creator still full of fresh ideas, so hats off to that.

all of the dripping effects looks like an unusual effect waiting to happen

3:24 Wow, spy has some SERIOUS drip!

Imagine if it just included everyone on the list of assisting actions and like 20 dudes all work together to kill one engineer

I love Jim's ragdoll, he just flies away to heaven.

Guy I'm dominating: [Gently blows my hair] Me: [Dies 25 years later] Game: THAT'S AN ASSIST. HE GOT REVENGE ON YOU!

Shounic: "If I shoot someone, I'm the killer" Audience: "Dear god" Shounic: "There's more..." Audience: "No"

3:18 When you run for 1 second.

Me: “does 2990 damage to heavy robot” Scout out of no where: “uses pistol” Spy out of no where: “facestabbs it” Me:”doesn’t get even a assist”

can we talk about how this guy is literally the 3kliksphilip of tf2?

Bit of a correction on 5:40: A spy can get an assist on a destroyed building if he places a sapper on the building and a teammate destroys the building while it is being sapped.

3:18 women after they see my lego bionicles collection

A videoediting question (anyone can answer); how did you get the TF2 animated character models (and any animated ingame special effects associated with them) with a transparent background such that you could composite in your own background? Did you capture videos of them against a greenscreen custom map or something?

So that's why it's pretty common for a decent medic to top score, just heal everyone and you'll get the credit xD

I love how even after 13 years, we still have something we don't know about TF2 and it's still being analyzed I just hope TF2 team didn't update the game too soon, so this video is going to be useful... Oh wait

3:18 "As if I would ruin a $3000 Dollar suit. Good. Good" - Spy

Me: *does 90% of damage to enemy* Random sniper getting overhealed: *body shots and kills them* Game: *credits the sniper and medic* Me: "What the fu-"

Does uber-ing the killer increase the medic's priority? Like if the second medic to heal the killer Ubers the killer before they get the kill do they get the assist?

"If I shoot someone, and they die, I'm the killer. Anyway, back to TF2..."

great vídeo as always. But although you explained that the first medic to start healing you gets priority on the assist, I think it would be worth mentioning that this even applies if the second medic Ubers or Kritz the target. It is too common for a gibus medic who is just following a random guy to steal a good 5 or 7 assist when I Kritz him, simply because I commited the sin of healing my team as a whole, switching targets constantly and launching arrows :(

"If I shoot someone and they die, I am the killer" What a great quote to start the video

*hits guy for 8 with the pistol* TF2 when that person dies: Good work!

Another reason why the Jarate is the superior weapon

After Jungle Inferno, airblasting people into kill barriers will sometimes ignore the airblast, crediting nobody for the kill. It'll just credit anyone who did damage. Additionally, the Shortstop's push will never credit you for pushing an enemy into a kill barrier, despite it dealing 1 damage.

Cute girl: "Hi! How you doing?" Me, an introvert, sweating, pissing myself and puking out: 3:23

1:09 POV you're about to get vibe checked

3:18 Looks like he's dripping Skittles.

5:52 I must go, my people need me

Everybody, please thank Jim for his wonderful service. This wouldn't be possible without him... our hero, flying in the sky like the wonderful bot he is.

3:19 The fact that you don't have any reason to do this but you did it anyway is why i love your content.

0:01 You may be a killer, but you ain't man enough to be the Killa.

Woaaaah, the editing was great, keep up the good work dude!

"If i shoot somone and they die i'm the killer" Yep. That's how the law works.

0:06, I think federally they’re called an accomplice

I just love how clean his videos are

As a comp player and engineer main who often uses the frontier justice, thisis actually really valuable information Thank you! Been trying to figure this out for quite some time after thinking I should get sentry assists but them just not happening, but now I know that my damage has to be the most recent damage, and within 3 seconds, and debuffs or bluffs or healing can get in the way of assists being awarded to me sentry. Also, odd thing, it seems as though it is impossible for an engineer's sentry to get an assist from the engineer who built it, by which I mean if someone is peppered by my sentry and I finish them with my shotgun, no assist will be awarded

I've always wondered about a lot of this, thanks for explaining. Many times I've never received obvious assist kills in a quick skirmish. Like, only the killer would get a single credit while I was attacking the enemy also. Must have been some of these unnamed instances you showed. Good video.

The Healing amputator Taunt effect count like "healing" (like the medigun) or like a "buff"?

I just love when i almost kill an enemy and random soldier kills him wirhout my credit. Really, does it work or not?

the spy face at 0:44 looks like sadness materialized

I've been wondering this for over a decade now thank you so much

1:52 is the jarate.. .. Behind his hand??

The funniest killfeed will be forever assisted suicide by the enemy team

Bless you for 3:21 I was so curious when you started throwing that at then engineer and wanted to see how it was with the 3 of them lmao

I love the awkward pause at the end of the intro part, like that's just asking to be taken out of context.

You forgot about the spy when he saps a building and someone else destroys it the spy gets credit for the sapper

I remember one time when I got a melee crit on a soldier taking him down to 5 HP, then the scout behind me shoots him for 5 damage immediately after, yet I don't get any assist at all? What's up with that?

Hey I'm in the video at the top right corner of the screen 0:11

idk why but I absolutely love your editing

Thanks for curing my depression

What about Spy’s sappers when crediting building destruction? I thought they always have the prioritiy.

Count of shounic to answer the questions we’ve always wondered.

3:19 that spy got the DRIP

You forgot to mention the sappers on a building. When a spy saps the building and someone else destroys it, the spy gets the assist.

hey shounic i know this is not related to the video but i have question: in the guide you made to use your crosshair in tftv the guy that explains talk about "weapon script" and i dont know where the fuck this is, can you help me? thanks.

I didn't know I needed this video until now. Very well explained and presented. Way to go my guy.

Dude I love your content you are awesome and i think you really deserve more subs. Keep growing (:

What if someone is healed by a crossbow? Would they get an assist?

mate, it's pronounced as "conqueror". Spongebob lied to you

Great video. One little comment though since it might confuse newer players. Of the two people listed, the person listed first is the person who dealt the final blow (the video has it backwards). So if it says "Player1 + Player2 Victim" you know that Player1 is a pyro.

Damn, I like your analysis videos so much. It's so informative!

Can we get an f in chat for jim?

You need to make more videos like this it helps me sleep at night

Don’t forget the 5th spot in the assist credit list, items like the nabler/balloonicorn etc

"if i shoot some guy and i die im the killer" ah yes this floor here is made out of floor

5:34 spies also get an assist credit if they have a sapper attached and someone else destroys the building

Another thing for buildings: You can also assist in destroying a building if it's sapped, if you hit a sapped building and it dies to the sapper you get an assist on it I think it works the other way around too where the spy gets the assist for sapping a building that is then destroyed but I'm not entirely sure. Though I don't know how a medic's healing plays into this, further testing is required.

Buildings recognize assists if the spy is sapping it and someone else destroys it. Happened today while I was playing spy.

3:19 teenagers after using 10 bottles of axe body spray

0:00 "If I kill someone I'm the killer" -Shounic

I just really love how encouraging the system is for teamwork. Celebrates helping with recognition. I really do love tf2

This thought randomly popped into my head a while ago, particularly about mad milk scout or medic getting the assist. Then I see this video.

You are answering the eternal questions of TF2, one after the other

wow I always just thought it was killer + damager but bloody hell tf2 has so much attention to detail

That poor Spy. And those poor Engies. Thanks for these tidbits of info :).

You're editing is Godly.

IIRC Spies also get assists if they sap a building that someone else destroys. I.E. If a Spy saps a sentry, but a Demoman blows it up after the sapper is placed but before the sapper actually destroys the building, the Spy will get an assist.

Very informative video, I always wondered how assists worked.

Super interesting, keep up the great work

0:42 why does spy look so sad man

Fukin finally a video explaining this. You have no clue how many times I've gotten a sniper down to 2 hp as scout only then for a pyro with his stupid jetpack to fly in, steal the kill, and not give me any credit for the assist. As you can see, I'm really mad about this.

1:52 hand drawn over bottle model broke my brain

I've been wondering about this for a while, nice.

Its good to see that cow-orker Jim could find some ork after recovering from the incident at black mesa

this is such an underrated channel holy shit

Thank you for answering just about every TF2-related shower thought I've ever had

Engineers were harmed at the making of this video

Yes! I was just wondering that recently. Thank you so much for this video!

3:20 when you try playing spy for the first time

3:19 wow that spy has every right to look as angry has he does

Kinda glad that this guy still does tf2 things.So many people left due to the lack of new content.Just glad he still enjoys making this stuff.

Personally, even though the buff priority is arbitrary, I feel like it is accidentally correct since I feel the heal on attack as the one least likely to have helped you make the kill. One buff increases damage. Two buffs increase survivability, but one of them only does so if you connect your shots while the Battalion's Backup buff is passive.

“If I shoot someone and they die, I’m the killer” The more you know