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I would say Minzy is just as good though.. or maybe almost the same level but never got the exposure she deserved.... Boa, Minzy and Hyo are my top 3 and I just can't bring myself to put one over the other..
@@manonn2006 Minzy have lack of dance performance when she was in 2NE1. Because YG not focus in dance. After she left YG and she make her own dance studio, we can see her dance
*'She already reached her full potential and growth in dancing, and no female idol in the 3rd and 4th generation can outdo her at her best.'* facts. The way Hyoyeon is the highest ranked, she's literally THE dancing queen and dance machine.
you know the kpop fandom aged horribly when these kids ignore hyoyeon as a top tier dancer. she's been killing it for years. everyone who knows anything about kpop should know she's THAT amazing and untouchable when it comes to dancing
Me as a kpop fan since the 2nd gen seeing my friends now liking kpop more for their looks and only for the hype.They didn't even bother to dig or search for other really talented or legendary group and insted just like 1 or 2 groups and claiming themselves as "someone who knows everything about kpop" And me as a khh fan now seeing kpop fans nowadays not knowing anything about the actual music, only liking khh artists because of their good looks, not even appreciating their music or artistry. And then saying khh is kpop. 😩😩😩😩😩
And then putting Hyoyeon in low ranks?! Not even appreciating the freaking talent this girl gives!? They even like to claim "this paved the way" or "that paved the way" but they forgot 1st and 2nd gen were the ones who actually made it possible. Like how Shinee was the first to make dance practice videos that kpop fans enjoy now or the hard choreos that now became a norm and got complimented alot on.
@@plip5489 This. I really can't stand KHH being compared to Kpop or fans trying to pull the most pedantic facts to justify why their favourite idol is comparable an actual KHH artist. It's even worse in China tbh. Kris Wu fans looking at you guys smh
@@BeatofAnjel They're really trying hard to put khh into the kpop category when even khh artists themselves said they're not kpop and they don't wanna be called kpop, they're khh. really trying hard not to put out names of idol rappers whose fans believe they're "so good" at rapping cause I know I'm gonna get hard backlash, but just so freaking frustrated when the idols in reality either can't rap, mediocre or is not good at all. Did you know someone put Tiger JK and other legendary khh rappers in a KPOP rapper rank and then putting them IN LOW RANKS. LIKE!!! WTF!!! SHOW SOME F'IN RESPECT DUDE! Same with fans who think their idols are "amazing" at dancing when in reality the idol can just do basic moves.
@@plip5489 You got me heated!!! I noticed that newer kpop fans are so defensive sometimes. I could praise someone for being good at something and they will pop up and be like "BuT wHat abOUt my bIAS ReSpECt THeM" What is funny that in South Korea, idols are viewed differently as they should be. There are definitely standouts vocalists (Taeyeon who is now viewed as more of a singer than an idol) or rappers (Zico) but large majority basically exist like instagram or social media influencers. Huge followings, lots of viral moments but they still exist in these large community bubbles. I honestly also hate polls because fans take them as a definitive way of recognizing their idol is the best at something. I will avoid names in case it derails this conversation, but goddamnit, those polls are so off. I would be surprised if kpop fans these days knew who Tiger JK was. Full of idols who get lines fed to them from their companies about relationships they can't/have never been in because if they aren't single, they can't capitalize on people's mental illnesses to generate money. RANT Back on sort of topic, I remember when Hyo was ready to debut, there were tons of dance videos of her and Min from MissA when they were younger and popping. They really tried to market how great of a dancer she was HARD and that often drew criticism, with people saying she was either not pretty enough for the group or a terrible singer. Now she's praised on Good Girl for being a good singer. I feel like SNSD were one of the first groups to really make the "main dancer" title that blatant. Now that the title is basically seen as a necessity in idol groups, they just assign it without actually giving it any substance.
@IDGAF HOE i'm seo-biased but i think tiffany also deserve to be alongside with seohyun, if you'd look at her recent performances, she has become even better than she was in snsd
I feel like versatility is no longer a strength to Hyoyeon. That's her personality. Female idol, DJ, dancers. I bet this girl is yet to stop at her career
Weaknesses: “No visible weaknesses in technique” THAT SHIT WAS SO SATISFYING. We really didn’t call her Dancing Queen just for fun all these years. I’m super proud of her and everything she’s accomplished. Happy GG 13th Anniversary!
How do you know she's a top tier dancer? Hyoyeon makes everything look easy, even stuff you know is difficult. Edit: I would love to see an analysis of Taemin, even though we already know he's top tier.
Honestly, i think this is why some of her naysayers... say nay. To an untrained eye, her making things look so easy... well... makes it look easy. Other notable dancers (who ARE great, i'm not disrespecting) will often over-dance and add flairs to stand out, which can be visually appealing in focused fan cam, and stand out next to their group, but that is exactly the fault here. The best dancers in the world don't try to look like the obviously best dancer on their team. They try to make their team look like the obviously best team.
So many people underestimate her so much when she’s proven her skills time and time again over countless years. One of the staple main dancers in this industry and I hope to see her mentor in dancing programs since she’s already polished her skill/style. Sm truly holds some of the best dancers in this kpop
Thanks guys @Silver Rain and @ Blink Once. I knew I had seen her somewhere, and im so surprised to see that she is overlooked by people. SMH, the world these days
"No visible weakness in technique." Finally, someone who appreciates great dancers. Like most of the time I see Hyoyeon, BoA, Minzy in lower ranks. Just their techniques, versality and dynamics is mindblowing. Thank you On The Scene keep doing great! -2nd Gen & SM stan :>
@@cottanibuni2753 Especially because a lot of the time they're intentionally holding back to match their groups. It's an inevitable part of performing in the kpop industry (or performing anywhere, really) if you want the stage to look synchronized. I myself didn't think much of Hyoyeon when I first got into SNSD because I only ever saw group performances, but when I began watching her solo dances I was absolutely blown away. She's so amazingly good at what she does.
Gretel yea, personally I’m not into SNSD, but I do love SHINee and I personally think that Taemin is the best male dancer in Kpop but I didn’t know that in their choreos, actually Taemin did stand out a bit, but lord was I so impressed when I saw Goodbye and and Flame of Love
I requested this one! I’m sure a lot of people have. Honestly whenever I think of well respected female idols in dance I think of Hyoyeon and BoA. I’m not shading younger idols since my favorite dance position idol is Seulgi but I just kind of instinctively think of these two because the first kpop artists I was ever introduced to (in depth) were BoA and SNSD. I was a bit saddened that she isn’t mentioned much anymore even though she was such a big deal among SONE and 2nd gen fans in general. I’m glad she was acknowledged here. I also just love her as a person since she’s so savage and funny but thats unrelated. Thank you!
BoA? You mean BoA who sang Inuyasha songs? OMG i did not know she's a dancer. I used to save japanese anime lyrics from her anime songs memorize and sing it when i was a kid. Her anime songs are a big part of my childhood. OMG mind blown, she can sing and dance she's That Talented.
Omg thank you for requesting Hyoyeon. Honestly until now I feel like people haven't seen her full potentials and appreciated her enough. Her dancing style might not really fit most of SNSD's songs, but she always knows how to shine.
I feel the exact same way. Hyoyeon might not be my personal favorite dancer but shes a legend and someone I immediately think of when I think best kpop dancers.
To make it even more fun, before Hyoyeon even debuted, she was the shadow double for BoA during her 2005 Mnet Over the Top performance! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kSI1yEMWpZw.html
They are not top tier, they are GOD tier in kpop industry. There are a lot of artists in kpop who are top tier, but Taeyeon, Hyoyeon, and Yoona are GOD tiers in their own spheres. GGs: Mamamoo and Wendy RV have BIG potential or is almost there for vocals. Only Minzy share this level with Hyoyeon. Yoona could potentially share this level with a lot of idols e.g. Irene RV, Dara 2ne1, Sana Twice (not Tzuyu because until now she hasnt done anything with her robotic expressions), but given the very diverse concepts that SNSD has done, she can fit any theme, and when Yoona takes center, you know its on and she commands. Plus not to mention she's a total CF queen, actress, variety, model, and diversely talented.
every time i see a “best female dancers in kpop” video they never mention hyoyeon or minzy, who are by far the two best female damcers in kpop to me. finally someone who sees that too!
@@gio_graphy mostly 3rd and 4th gen dancers. chaeyeon, lisa, momo, etc. and of course they're all incredible dancers, but people tend to forget about the OGs
Min from Miss A Hyoyeon from SNSD BoA the queen of KPOP Minzy from 2NE1 Hyolyn from SISTAR They aren't talk as much but they're the best female dancers in KPOP hands down
imagine having a group with a top tier dancer, top tier vocalist and a top tier visual. sm groups can relate. but seriously hyoyeon is a freaking goddess. her freestyle in knowing bros was amazing, and i don’t think one performance of hers didn’t impress me. she, minzy and boa are the best female dancers and that is that.
Also so much versatility in all of them. Taeyeon can sing any song. Hyoyeon can dance any dance. Any concept will work great with Yoona as visual. That’s why they produce so many hits in so many different styles.
When people ask me who I think is the best dancer in KPOP, they usually say “Is it Seulgi? Momo or Lisa”. I answer “It’s Hyoyeon and BoA”, the other girls could still learn a lot from the legends
Exactly, Lisa and Momo are my favorite dancers, but I'm so sad that they never appreciate Hyoyeon, I know that most kpop fans right now like only the 3rd and 4th generation groups, but they need to appreciate other idols :(
Yes! This is so accurate! She is, always will be the no.1 main dancer in the industry. I am really sad because new fans in the 3rd generation is underestimating her. Those bandwagons are ignorants and doesn't even accept criticism and don't want to educate themselves. Well I hope that this video will get really popular so that people will see that she is beyond and she is the top.
I can't take Stans who say any of the 3rd/4th gen dancers are the best dancer seriously. They're great but hyoyeon, boa and minzy would probably be the best.
She's so talented when i saw all of her perfomances in "Hit the Stage". while other artists did their best in their comfort zone genre, Hyoyeon always had various genre and performances out of her comfort zone and did her best. challenging herself and enjoyed it so much that's why i respect her a lot
Hyoyeon biggest strength is her ability to fully control any parts of her body. Many main dancers eventhough skillful, you can see there are certain areas on their body they kinda weak at partially because they focus more to polish their strength rather than focusing to fix their weaknesses. For dancers like hyoyeon, she fix her weaknesses so she able to explore or polish her skills overall as she already overcome her barrier.
I agree! There are some dancers with habits that continue for the entire time they dance (ex: Lisa’s broken wrists) but Hyoyeon’s technique always seems so balanced. You can really tell that she is super thoughtful about her own movements, and that SM has great teachers.
Finally an unbiased dance analysis! those people who claim to be dancers and make rankings according to popularity just to gain views are full of BS!! so biased and never known any other Kpop dancer well other than those who are their biases or from the new gen!
"No visible weakness." Well thats snsd's main dancer And of course hyoyeon is named as one of the best female dancer of all-time. Also Boa, Yuri, Victoria, Seulgi, Luna and Irene too is top tier sm dancer like hyo
@@vanhminglianitochhawng3209 facts lol people don't give snsd's dance line recognition they deserve. They see 'clean' and 'powerful' and they think it always means better. However I must say imo, out of the female dancers mentioned, only boa is at hyo's tier. Hyoyeon is better than the rest by margins.
as someone who has been a fan of snsd from the beginning of time, hyoyeon has always been our greatest pride when it comes to dancing. all this time i knew that she was the best in her league although i cannot pinpoint exactly what things were she amazing at and what were her weaknesses. this video just helped me with that and i want to thank you for taking time analyzing it and explaining it to us non dancers in such an easy way !! now i know why hyoyeon is praised by critics all the time, why they call her the dancing machine, and why so many idols look up to her as their inspiration for dancing and becoming an idol. ps: pls keep posting because you're the only person who ranks dancers that i trust lmAO
Only reason she’s an underrated dancer’s cause snsd was more of a vocal-focused group, and it’s not like favouritism was in her favour which was extremely unfortunate
Not really, snsd is also famous for their synchronization and their choreographies, it’s just that SM promoted the visual members and the vocal line more. Hyoyeon was given less parts and under appreciated
@@kaitlyn8843 Depends, I would not dare say Into the new world, I got a boy and Catch me if you can are easy, those are some of the most complex and exhausting choreos for GGs up till nowadays
No she has never been underrated. Even when snsd on their peak, every variety shows always likely to see her dance (esp her popping). The term of dancing machine was started because of her (and BoA as a dancing queen) and snsd members always choose her and got excited whenever she danced. But she never really outdo her members in a dance group (that's how humble she was), except when it comes to her solo dance part. The problem is (imho) the 3rd and 4th gen fans always think their idol is superb and they will always be number one when they never really see hyo on dancing with the star or hit the stage (she was the only female idol who's winning on hts!). No, they dont care as long as their idol is number one on the list who was made not even from a real dancer.
TA That’s true, I mean she was not amongst the most hyped members but the disrespect began because most younger fans don’t know the full scale of her abilities
WHEN OTHER KPOP AGENCIES SAID "SM ENT IS GOOD IN SINGING ONLY". THE MAIN DANCERS TIER REVEAL : Hyoyeon - S RANK (GIRLS GENERATION) Taemin - S RANK (SHINEE) Kai - S RANK (EXO) Seulgi - A RANK (RED VELVET) Jisung - A RANK (NCT DREAM) Taeyong - A RANK (NCT 127) OTHER KPOP AGENCIES : (SHOCK!!)
no weaknesses! wow look how she ate that! queen hyoyeon! growing up listening to snsd since i was a kid i always thought she looked like she was floating on air whenever she danced
"No female in the third or fourth generation can outdo her." SOMEONE SAID IT. FINALLY. THANK YOU. Thank you for doing your research on her. Thank you for not being biased. And thank you for recognizing her. I've been a Hyoyeon stan for a decade now, and this is the best analysis that i've ever watched about her. I noticed how good she was a lot back then, such as her ability to execute ballroom dancing and hip hop excellently. But you elaborated her abilities in a more specific and organized manner. And I couldn't help but also see that there isn't a female dancer among the third and fourth generation that could outdo her. Thank you again. 😭
This made me feel emotional, she is my favourite dancer and having the opportunity to see more in depth of her tecniques it was really interesting. She is so inspiring, thanks for doing this series, it's amazing! :)
predebut hyoyeon was already SO talented that no matter how many changes were made on snsd’s line up, she never left the list of trainees that are set to debut. 👑 also, the way you dropped this on snsd’s 13th anniversary 👀 snsd really are the idol of idols.
me throughout the beginning of this video: oooh the description is really different than others >> oooh she have a LOT of strength guess she will haven't a weaknesses 10:04 appears: I TOLD U LAD
The last slide was so satisfying to read.The praise that she deserves. I mean I know and love how talented seulgi,momo,Lisa,Chungha ,chayeon etc are at dancing but none of them can even come close to hyoyeon's level of skill in dancing she is literal monster
as soon as i saw the word 'footwork' i KNEW "punk right now" was about to show up... that choreography is absolutely incredible, dare i say one of the top 5 best k-pop choreos ever ? it looks awfully difficult but she makes it look effortless. i was never even a fan of snsd, and didn't actually know hyoyeon even existed until that song came out, but when it did, boyyyy did i go wild... one dance practice video was enough for me to realize this girl must be in the top ten best k-pop dancers of all times. she blew me away. i would probably sell my kidney just to have a one-hour dance class with her...
Also the fact that she dared to step outside her comfort zone not once, twice but multiple times is really admirable, and by that I mean not only in dance but also in other fields
Hyoyeon is always sone's pride in term of dancing. Everytime there's a breakdance sone would always chanting her name it makes me so happy. I would like to see an analysis about minzy, boa and chungha next. Thank you so much for the analysis^^
Hyoyeon's dancing is just so perfect. To me, she's the standard for a Main Dancer. Not just the best dancer at debut but someone who genuinely loves dancing and constantly works at improving. I feel that is something a lot of 3rd and 4th gen main dancers are lacking.
Momo, Seulgi and Lisa are all good dancers. Hyo's edge among all of them is: 1.) Experience. 2.) WIDE RANGE OF GENRES. Have y'all scene her Hit The Stage performances, how different one performance is to the other? If you havent seen it yet then I suggest you do. This video also explains why she is BETTER than all of them. I dont see any reason or room for argument anymore. HYOYEON NATION'S BEST GIRL GROUP DANCER.
Taemin and Hyoyeon, the Main Dancer of 2nd Generation both holds the highest score for female and male idol. Damn. SM isn't the best but they sure have the best. Their vocal, dance and visual line all slaying!
That botting clip of her still amazes me❤️❤️ I literally don't see a human acting like a robot but a robot itself...my skills of botting gone with a flick of her pops
Finally, even there are already many clip of pro dancer praising Hyo, there are still so many others group fan disrespect her dancing. At least there is 1 more video we can show to those who disrespect her skill as a dancer. Thank you!
This! I was actually just waiting for an actual dancer that recognise Hyo’s actual skill among other kpop main dancers/dancers. because for some reason most if not all Dancer Ranking Videos ive seen (randomly) they always place Hyo low or not in the list at all. Like this girl never ceases to amaze me every time she comes out on another dance show. Like how much more can she grow.
As someone who watched SNSD for almost 7 years I can really say that no one, like no ONE can get close of how a queen Hyoyeon is in dancing. SNSD's main are literally the best of their own fields out of all SM trainees in their time. Hyoyeon was trained together with boys trainees because that's how good she is, Taeyeon always in the top 1 vocalist in their trainee evaluation, and Yoona who is one of the most beautiful idol you've ever seen. Other members even though not a main can be mains if put into other group.
This just shows how very passionate is Hyo when it comes to dancing. Yes, specializing in one genre/style is indeed amazing, but a dancer that tries more than what they are used to, it shows how confident they are in their capabilities. Not to mention, her control and mastery in her specialties shows her dedication and hardwork. That's why Hyoyeon for me is indeed the dancing queen. I'd only take BoA, Minzy and Kahi as up there with her on the same pedestal and a few steps lower, maybe Chaeyeon from izOne and Chungha based on what I've seen so far from this generation.
Hyo and Minzy are the dancing goddess of Kpop. When someone tells me that Lisa or Momo are the best female dancer in Kpop without acknowledging the talent of Hyo and Minzy it really upset me and I started watching and listening to Kpop in 2017. The 2nd generations have the best dancers in my eyes
I am pretty sure that the other female idol who can do well in popping other than HYO is her Little Winners' partner... you know what I am talking about... 😂 Edit: It's Min from Miss A
She is my favorite. Has been my favorite dancer in kpop there's a long time. Hyoyeon is the first female idol in your analysis who is in the S ranking and I'm so sooo proud of her. New kpop fans who is so obsessed with their favs usually ignore her because she is from 2nd generation and actually, Hyoyeon is a bit underrated in her own group, so.... But I'm happy with this, she is above the kpop idol dancing to me Maybe Taemin is the next? After Kai-Seulgi, JHope-SinB, Momo-Yugyeom, you have some pattern with the labels
hyoyeon (and queen boa) walked so the rest could run ☝🏻 happy anniversary snsd, you absolute legends! so happy dancesport was covered as well, it’s such an underrated style of dance, hyoyeon absolutely nailed it! i’m honestly curious for hyoyeon to try tackle belly dance, her torso control and isolations are insane. and also hope you’re feeling better too OTS!
Ugh. finally. A legit analysis of dancing techniques! This was also my observations when i first saw Hyoyeon in 2009. That 'Anonymous' dance video with Jaewon really got me stanning because her moves from her head to toes are so....i dont know what words to use. Body coordination? Fluidity? It's like every movement is literally connected and you can clearly see it flow through her body. That video, her 'So Sick' performance (concert), and the SM Town dance relay (Go Girl) from SMTOWN concert are definitely my top 3 favorites. Superb dancing indeed. I totally agreed when you said she's on the top 3 and unbeatable.
Hyoyeon is my favorite kpop dancer of all the times, she's my bigggest role model for sure! Thanks for your videos, it helps me a lot to improve mi technique!
What makes Hyo unique among main dancers is her superb fluidity and movement isolation rather than over the place energy of some dancers. I personally think that over energy in dancing is used to mask lack of technique. Hyo makes sure not to over exaggerate her moves but still make them on point.
Also how much hyoyeon improve her energy control have you seen her energy in trainee wow she amazing but a little over i thinks,ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mmKG17DjeYA.html
"No female idol in the 3rd or 4th generation can outdo her at her best" perfectly said. Whether people want it or not, Hyoyeon has yet to be surpassed in this industry. Versality, Power and Technique, she excells in them all. Kim Hyoyeon is a gem, she's been praised many times by prodessionals but also by her labelmates to be excellent and even better than professionaĺ dancers. As said in the video, i think Hyoyeon has reached a peak where it's nearly impossible to outdo at her best. She has such a perfect control and knowledge of her abilities and technique. I think it's safe to say Hyoyeon might be the best female dancer kpop has known. Btw thank you for making this video, it's really great! 😊
I really love this girl, she is so fierce in stage, and maybe the funniest girl Ive ever know... When someone ask me why Snsd is Queen, I will give this as a receipe. Snsd truly once in life time. During their peak, they have everything to solidify their position as NGG
The way I smiled through all this knowing for years that she truly is amazing! I even went "HA" out loud when I saw the weakness. She truly is an 'S' and God tier. Fun Fact: Hyoyeon can memorize a dance by watching a video just a handful of times.
OMG I´m so happy that you keep posting! Thank you so much, this series helps me a lot with my dancing, you are a really big inspiration for me. Thanks!
Omygodddddd....i screamed sooooo loud i'm so happy u evaluated Hyoyeon...you are gonna make my whole day shine...the only S class female dancer so far..t.hat's snsd's hyo #sone