But not all hardware supports RGB, and some that do may need workarounds. Shall I do future episodes on other consoles if the story differs from this (for example, the ZX Spectrum, NES, Game Gear, Dreamcast, GameCube and more use alternate approaches and/or cables so I could make videos on them, but the Master system is pointless to show as it would be the same methods in this demonstration). Let me know in the replies here! In the meantime, check out the Sonic 2 comparison and can you spot which is hardware and which is emulation? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-plHJw9Vqg3M.html Note: at 0:29, I show a comparison between two cables. Be aware that the footage here is the SNES version of the Sonic 1 homebrew. This is because I had a "triple shielded" SCART cable from eBay and a retrogamingcables "PACKAPUNCH" SCART for the SNES, but I had no cheap cables from eBay for the Mega Drive (Genesis) to prove my point (I use to so I know this statement still stands). This was the only way to show an example but take my word for it, unless it's a reputable seller on eBay, stay away from there for cables. You'll end up spending more money on more bad cables rather than just buying one quality cable. I have also heard great things from this website: retro-access.com/
That is quite an awesome arsenal of tech to improve quality and color. I'm not into emulations that much normally I would just get some of the best equipment to help upscale and improve the gameplay quality on which consoles or systems I own. Excellent job as always redhotsonic, a great way to educate us.
This is a true technical and professional setup at its finest. Well explained, and makes sense once you dive deep into the more in-depth areas. Still struggling to figure out the hardware vs emulation difference, but the fine tuning is what improves on accuracy as best as possible.
For the first "spot the difference", I was able to tell by the very slight colour difference for Green Hill's sky, and B looks a bit too vibrant for real hardware. And I say B is real hardware and A is emulation.
I wonder, is it possible to run Mega Tech and/or Mega Play games on a retail MD? I make no illusions about the fact that this would be a rather expensive venture, though...
Does the BVM really look that "faded" in person...? Would have thought the colours would be a lot more vibrant and the contrast a lot better than that - and that one was meant to be an upgrade from your previous one...?
Like I said in the video, you have to see it in person. There was a line I cut out, "The camera pointing at the screen does not do it justice" and you've just proved my point lol. It appears faded because I had to have 1/100 shutter otherwise I'd get terrible rolling. I set the aperture to 4.0 (lens at its sharpest) and can't remember the ISO but there's three factors making it look "worse" than is. It looks miles better in real life. Especially 480p wide-screen gaming 😊
The OSSC's settings were the main thing that drove me away from it after using it for a couple of years. I needed something more straightforward just for gaming so I eventually moved to a RetroTink 5x.
Oy... that Sonic the Fighters music... one of the rare few soundtracks that should not have been made. Only one track on there is worth listening to, and I can't even remember which one it is.
Does your Genesis and Mega Drive Model 2 RGB cable display correct colors, because the one I have displays weird colors (ex. Knuckles is blue and not red, even when not doing the Blue Knuckles glitch in Sonic 3 & Knuckles, difference is is the un-glitched one is darker). My PAL Mega Drive Model 2 is also modded to be region free and obviously normal cables give a black & white display on NTSC (U or J) but colored on PAL. :| I'm not sure if brands are different quality on RGB cables, since mine looks unbranded or doesn't have any logos or stickers on it at all. :(
Or you could just not care about sharp pixels and have dither transparency/extra color effects actually work and use composite, it's basically free and it works, still gonna need an upscaler though for all non crt tvs/widescreen tvs including crts though (retrotink, gbscontrol, ossc work well) can also enable scanlines which can give a more accurate look. or you could just use a MiSTer if you want 1:1 hardware emulation (fpga is really cool) or if you don't care about 1:1 hardware and just want most of the games you care about to work then just emulate on pc, maybe use something with filters if you want to get close to the original look.
Nice setup! Had to redo my entire capture setup recently due to getting a 4K TV and 4K capture card. I'm looking enviously at that RetroTink 5X and the results it can give! Also, yay for RGC's cables! Great website, awesome service.
Do you just use the vanilla consoles for recording, or have they been modified to remove jailbars? Either way, a good reminder to myself to get a better power supply for my Genesis! Thanks!
I've lifted pin 50 off of the VDP to help reduce jailbars. Now, they're only noticeable if you purposely try to look for them. The only one that it's still super obvious is my PAL but I don't feel the need to get any bypasses installed :)
Absolute beast of a setup! Guess I have to save up for a OSSC then. Looking forward to a video about the mentioned Dreamcast RGB problems, as i have no idea what these could be. Does it have to do with PAL50/NTSC ? Also i heard PAL60 is a thing too, idk. I have multiple Dreamcasts, but i use them with VGA 99% of the time. VGA compatibility has become a long way via hacking or homebrew. There are great VGA to HDMI converters for little money.
You still need the at games models the radica plug n plays and the classic edition to get the full group Yeah I wanted to get every mega drive model but not every Brazil model because they aren't interesting
damn that sonic 2 comparison is tough, I can't cross-reference it myself as I don't have component or rgb scart cables to connect my model 2 JP mega drive into my OSSC, only composite cables though I bet is B
I’m extremely jealous of this setup you have. Recently I’ve been learning about the retro tink 5X and thinking about getting it for the retro consoles that I have, since up until this point I’ve been using AV cables on a flatscreen and recently got a Zenith CRT that only works with composite and modifying a crt can be extremely dangerous because of its high voltage. Luckily your discord server is great for in depth questions on stuff like this, and a huge shoutout to Ace he’s extremely knowledgeable with the flatscreen that I have and giving me the info that I need to get a good picture quality. If anyone else doesn’t seem to understand this very well even if it’s a good video on Redhotsonic’s setup, I suggest joining his server.
Couldn't tell visually through RU-vid, but the sound is definitely off in Kega. The last bit of percussion on the title theme was what truly tipped me off. Listening closer, I could also hear the hardware DAC noise.
I never would have guessed that your thing was so complex to get a crisp & clear image from an old console like that. Heck, I never thought about getting a crisp image out of it cuz I'm the type of person that records the camera pointing to the TV
No. I have another BDIWORH in the works and it'll be my most expensive one yet! But they take a LOT more time to make. Quality of quantity! STTP is just to help keep the time going.
Already done! I've lifted pin 50 to help reduce the jailbar effect! Although if you look hard, it's still there. Not keen on getting the bypass mod as I find it unnecessary :)
@@redhotsonic How come you find the triple bypass unnecessary? From my experience it also makes the sound better, but having multiple genesis/ mega drives maybe why.
silly question: what's the name of the subject this video is about? Science of computer graphics? virtual signals? Frankly I don't understand much about what's in this video, and I'd like to fix that, but I don't know where to start.
If you wish to understand the terminology used here I suggest watching my life in gaming because they have dedicated videos on the subject. Though if you still struggle, Redhotsonic’s server has some people who can help out.
@@SproutyPottedPlant I know exactly what you mean, I have the Analogue Mega SG set up in my bedroom for ''before bedtime gaming'' on a Sony smart TV through HDMI, but downstairs in the living room I still use the PAL SEGA Mega Drive VA5 model 1 on a Sanyo analog CRT TV and that's still the console that I personally capture all my game footage and do the ''Complete Soundtrack CD'' series on. One day just for one i'm gonna try and use a HDMI to Composite downgrader and plug the Mega SG into my analog TV and record some footage just to see how it flairs in comparison to the original Mega Drive.
Yeah, it might seem like a lot of time and money spent just to capture game footage but I get it. I'm the kind of guy who loves clarity in any form of media so going the extra mile feels right to me.
