How To Buy A Brand New Sling TSi Airplane 

Where are you located?? Congrats as well!!!🍾💐🎉I need to start from scratch but so ready to get my private pilot license!!

@@alwaysloaded4539 El Paso, TX. Let me know if you have any questions along the way.

Someday, Phil….someday

Same here. Gonna start when it gets warmer. 🤘🏻

@@rumpledxkn start now and get as much done as you can now. get as much hours as you can before the next year when flight schools raise their rates

Thanks for watching Tony

@@mojogrip I live in Jonesboro Georgia. I want to get my pilot license. Private for POSs future chartering. Can you let me know what airport or program in North GA I can go to?? Big fan been watching for over 1 year. Been a enthusiastic want to be pilot since my first plane ride to Cali 1984. 💪🏾💪🏾

We already do 😊.

This can be included in the estimates. We do have our own graphic designer

Correct right now mainly focused on proven power plant in the Rotax 915

How’s flight school going?

Good question. Yes there is. Insurance can be a bit higher on experimentals. Also depends on pilot time, training and ratings.

@@mojogrip could you please provide more Information or make a video on the financing part? Thanks

@@danielarsenault8451 i second that video. I'm also interested in what financing looks like for a build that will roll into a refinance once the plane is built.

I talk more about investing on my personal channel: Mike Ojo. We don’t offer tour flights but happy to show the plane to potential buyers

TSi is a highly desired plane and no one is selling unfortunately. I know one owner who is thinking about selling. Prince range around $365k

Would this apply retroactively? Or would it be for planes (such as the Sling TSI) that are completed after the LPA category comes into existence?

@@Jschreck5 It's a process certification for construction, using standards that industry create. The FAA reviews the standards, then makes changes with industry where required, and finally publishes those in the Federal Register. None of this has happened, and because the new category will depend on the standards not yet adopted, older airframes will not be covered. BUT...there is a chance they allow a process to certify/"reconstruct" existing frames, but only if the process is documented in the standards. I do not know if this is proposed, but I have seen other such industry-leaning standards include them. I will suggest that any airframe built with personal labor ("homebuilt") instead of manufactured entirely by industry, will not be part of the new class. Even if it looks just like it, and has the same model number. The Icon A5 has a certificated version, and a sport version. It's all about the process.

8 months after the first deposit, then 1-3 months for each payment after

@@mojogrip Sounds good; thanks Mike!

Currently you’ll need a special approval from FAA to train people in a TSi. The 2 seater Sling NGT on the other hand is already certified for flight training

@@mojogrip Does the special FAA approval needed for instrument training as well?

You’d be surprised. People build in their garage all the time, but you still need the right tools and expertise

About $350,000

We can refer you to a lender

Lol no. They just make the best aviation headsets in my opinion

@@mojogrip Really? How many other brands do you have experience with, and over what period of time? Most expensive doesn't mean "best".

@@EJWash57 I have the new light speed Zulu and an older Bose A20. I have to go with Mike on this one, I think Bose makes a better headset. If I had to do it again I would buy a new Bose set over the Zulu. Of course, it’s just my opinion✌️

@@EJWash57 they are the best. Every pilot knows that

In this day and age, do you really want to buy an antique flying machine with wooden wings?

I own one. Great value for the money. Don’t let ignorant comments about wooden wings scare you off.

I honestly haven’t checked one out personally but I’ll start with your mission and what’s your current rating?

@@davecat1458 My 1975 Decathlon has wooden wings. So does my bud's 1946 Stearman. Oh, and another friend's 2015 Pitts Special. I could go on...

HI 1dullgeek - I just wanted to say HI and as a mid-life student pilot also, I really have enjoyed watching your journey! I would also like to learn more about the Sling build assist process, and it would be wonderful for you to collaborate with MojoGrip - that would be a great series! My personal preference would be to use Dynon (paired down a bit from their Garmin dual-panel setup), less the parachute, and some of the other options. Best wishes!

Hey sir dullgeek. Again it was a pleasure of meetin u through brotha Russ's channel. We all should collab along wit brotha Mike. #salute!!!!

If you Google sling tsi price you will find what it used to cost and what in costs now. Thank I flatiron but it's about 25% more now than it was 2 years ago just for the kit, engine, propeller, and all options. 120k might get you a standard kit with engine and constant speed prop. 2 years ago you were looking at about 220k fully compete with parachute and best builders assist You're looking at about 135k now with quick build, engine, constant speed prop. For parachute, paint, interior upgrades, and glass panel can cost another 120k. So about 250k just for everything you need fully loaded....then the builders assist. Lots of information online to determine the costs.

@@geraldgodbold2043 Oh! Thanks, Gerald. Good luck to you, too! Re: the build assist series, I don't know if you've seen what MojoGrip did already. But I suspect anything I did would not be as well produced as what he's already done. But if I go that route for certain I'll film it.

You gotta watch his other video that lists the cost of his plane. 80K for the build assist , prop, engine, kit, parachute and other stuff he has combined is over 200K

Come on Dan, do you not think any of these kit manufacturers have tried??? Its the FAA and the 51% rule....if you have 2 pieces to put together you're not doing 51% right? Well that's the rule. Big market already for kits, ask Vans they've sold 10k + kits and it will take you 1-2 years to get one. There are people that will skirt the rules and build it for you. In Canada and other countries you can have a professional build it for you. That being said it will probably cost you between 75k and 125k for the labor depending who you use and what they charge.....$100 an hour for 1000 hours....well you can do the math. There are many more other things to consider with experimental. You can use any engine, avionics, and make any other custom change you want, you can't do that with a certified airplane. It will also cost you double for the exact same parts because they are certified. So when you compare 300k fully loaded with the performance and options almost fully built to 600k plus for something with less performance and half the options and technology I'd say that's a pretty good deal, but everyone is entitled to their opinions.

Wow, you are all over the place with this comment and it appears you need to do more research on working with the FAA and ASTM standards. There are a ton of videos out there that address those topics as well as the "Glacial" pace at which the FAA moves to improve their processes. Regarding cost...first off and chisel this one in stone "Aviation is an expensive hobby" don't get in unless you can afford it and then some...You think the cost of his plane could be $100k less than he paid. Do you realize he has almost $200k in just kit, engine and avionics? Remember my first point about Aviation. You want it done fast then you are going to be using Builder Assist and guess what that is going to cost you because of the labor and expertise. What makes you think that it would be cheaper and better to build the plane out of composite materials? Cirrus Aircraft are composites and they have one of the most expensive airplanes on the market. It is much cheaper and easier to provide cut and drilled aluminum "in a kit" than it would be to build a composite shell and then ship it (especially from South Africa). Sling, Zenith, Vans (with the exception of the SLSA RV12), etc. are not aircraft companies they are kit manufacturers. Go look at the FAA's aircraft registry website and you won't find one Sling TSI (there are only 20) that was "Manufactured" by Sling. My bottom line here is that the Experimental rule has opened up aircraft ownership to many more than if it did not exist (but there are rules that govern it). It is a great thing and if Sling decided to go into the Aircraft "building" business the cost of their TSi would be north of $500k completed...remember my first point!

You want a single piece , all-composite shell, easy to certify, more aerodynamic, and you want it cheap? You sound like someone without a basic understanding of the aviation industry. "Bad business"? "Massive unnecessary hindrance"? You're free to avoid all the "inconvenience" of building your own plane and buy a new one from Cessna or Diamond. Just add a 200K-300K and more to the Sling price. Cirrus? Put aside a million. If you don't want a experimental kit plane, don't buy one. I don't understand why a whole industry "must die" just because it doesn't suit your needs. Shouldn't that fact that other people are buying the Sling kits clue you in that the kits are obviously meeting other people's needs? I get that you want cheaper things, but I also don't know what you expect a random RU-vidr to be able to do. FYI, you are not required to get the build-assist. You're free to buy the kit and build it all yourself in your own garage if "living away from home for weeks at multiple times" is yet another "massive unnecessary hindrance" that you simply cannot put up with because you expect things to be served to you on a platter. As for your armchair business consulting...if you have everything all worked out, I suggest you draft up a business plan and find investors yourself. If you can really guarantee to put Lycoming out of business, you won't have a difficult time finding investors. You just have to put your money where your mouth is.

@@scottmiller4711 do you think Elon Musk would agree with you. Or me. and side note, Sling's latest plane is composite.

The only part of the High Wing that is composite is the fuselage and it costs $27k more than the TSi fuselage. I also don’t think Elon Musk would care or even think about it based on the scale of the market…Do some research and you will learn.