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How To Fit & Set Up Shimano Road Bike Hydraulic Disc Brakes | GCN Tech's Full Setup & Installation 

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Hydraulic road disc brakes offer superior performance but can be a little more complicated to set up than cable brakes. Ollie gives us an in-depth guide on the installation, setup, and maintenance of hydraulic road disc brakes. This video covers the tools you will need and the process of running cables and hoses through internally routed frames.
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Комментарии : 261   
@rzeckner
@rzeckner 3 года назад
From my calculations Ollie used $1039.40 USD worth of Park Tools to install this $550 USD hydraulic brake set. However, we cyclists seem to loose all sense when it comes to spending on our bikes. Case in point I just spent an extra $120 on a some pedals just because they are a few grams lighter than the ones I had been happy with for 8 years.
@Chance57
@Chance57 2 года назад
Shoot, as a commuter I can go balls to the wall with spending and usually I still don't even come up close to what I would pay in gas for the year unless I'm starting a new bike from scratch
@Egppie.
@Egppie. Год назад
I mean I spent 40k php to convert my old mtb Specialized pitch comp 650b to a gravel bike when at the same price of the components I used I can buy a used grabel bike
@micoskico
@micoskico 5 месяцев назад
I just wondered how much the whole Park tool collection behind him is worth…🫣
@schrodingerthecat
@schrodingerthecat Год назад
This tutorial was absolutely what I needed to walk me through my first installation and setup of Shimano hydraulics. Clear instructions, great video to follow along, and one of the best instructors you could ask for. Thank you so much!
@la.intempestiva
@la.intempestiva 2 года назад
Installing a new 105 groupset into my Orbea bike and Ollie just answered all the questions I had and any that may arise later. Thanks for the wonderfully detailed video!!
@TheBaldTruth1
@TheBaldTruth1 Год назад
I was considering swapping out my shifters and brakes, and this video gave me the confidence that I could do it myself. Thank you.
@MikeSmith-qu5ew
@MikeSmith-qu5ew 3 года назад
That was perfect! I have to do this and been watching many demonstrations and you have a real skill in communication. The experience and positive skill you have show clearly you are a serious cyclist. thanks from an old person that needed a good demonstration!
@jaysonschultz8091
@jaysonschultz8091 2 года назад
Great video GCN. I’ve been intimidated about disc maintenance. Feeling confident now.
@bowrepublik
@bowrepublik Год назад
Thank you! Ill be building up a couple bikes for my wife and i soon and this has helped a tonne. Will likely come back to it.
@arianewell6252
@arianewell6252 3 года назад
Epic, thanks. This prepped me for installing integrated bars tomorrow morning 😄
@transfunktionator
@transfunktionator 3 года назад
Many thanks for this excellent explanation! I will need this as soon as Shimano groupsets become available again...
@JippaJ
@JippaJ 3 года назад
ALWAYS push the olive and nut onto the hose before installing the barb. Most barbs are to big to slide an olive and nut over.
@tychoMX
@tychoMX 3 года назад
Not the latest Shimanos! I think this may be this generation of hoses and barbs, I have spent some anxious times looking for the olive that popped off from the hoses. The last install I did (GRX) actually has the olive inside the caliper port already; you supposed to just slide the hose with the barb into the screw-olive-port assembly. It's quite a bear since the fit is pretty tight, and I found it easier to take the olive out and manually slide it into the hose before inserting in the port.
@JP-mo3fb
@JP-mo3fb 4 месяца назад
Clear, concise and plenty of helpful hints to future proof an installation. Thank you. J
@elorz007
@elorz007 3 года назад
You can also very easily just hammer the barb into the housing with a pair of pliers and the yellow blocks that usually come with the brakes.
@fluketennis
@fluketennis 2 месяца назад
thank you so much for sharing, I am a completely newbie in biking. Hope I can do DIY maintenance. Thanks again
@jbjergh
@jbjergh Год назад
I just love my colnago master with rim brake and external cables!
@davidmeier8860
@davidmeier8860 Год назад
Great video. I would make a few additions. Firstly, it's just mineral oil and not brake or hydraulic fluid (which is corrosive) so not much to worry about when dealing with it. Also, for internal routing I find doing the opposite (getting the levers connected and then cutting the hose to length at the brake itself to be easier. Best video I've found on this... Thanks!
@mididoctors
@mididoctors 3 года назад
Best advert for mechanical brakes I have seen
@pedalerio
@pedalerio 2 года назад
thanks Ollie, very clear and usefull explaination 👍
@izzatsofian
@izzatsofian 3 года назад
Thank you so much! This video very useful. From malaysia 🇲🇾
@user-kj5hl8vc2o
@user-kj5hl8vc2o 2 года назад
Perfect. Clears out many misconceptions i had. Thanks!
@gcntech
@gcntech 2 года назад
You're welcome!
@DigininjaRobin
@DigininjaRobin 3 года назад
Was thinking about doing part of this while fitting new Di2 shifters but even though the video really explained things well, I think I'll leave it to the experts at the local shop.
@RandyMiller-oo5tq
@RandyMiller-oo5tq 23 дня назад
Well done and helpful video, thanks!
@garrettgarcia7115
@garrettgarcia7115 11 месяцев назад
Cool looking bike, nice ride, I reccomend this to anyone for just riding, like beginner riding
@HarryBrandicourt
@HarryBrandicourt 3 года назад
really excellent how-to. Thank you.
@grunemann4490
@grunemann4490 2 года назад
Damn fine instructional video! Thanks GCN.
@royunderwood7514
@royunderwood7514 12 дней назад
Very helpful. Thank you.
@BrendanHills
@BrendanHills 3 года назад
Great video - so well explained.
@JohnAlexanderCain
@JohnAlexanderCain 4 месяца назад
In the UK, they drive on the opposite side of the road and use the opposite brakes levers, right is front and left is back. Wah Wah. Thanks for informative video, bike dudes. Great entertainment for this rainy winter night.
@chrisjohnstone6164
@chrisjohnstone6164 3 года назад
Hi, I'd love to see a similar tech video on Sram force disk breaks - it would be most helpful at the moment -- thanks
@rickhellard1406
@rickhellard1406 3 месяца назад
this is a superb video. Thanks for this.
@stuarthagyard9051
@stuarthagyard9051 2 года назад
Superb video. Very clearly explained.
@robboostph6689
@robboostph6689 2 года назад
Clean work, finest i should say!
@TheNovaNorm
@TheNovaNorm 2 года назад
Thank you, Doctor!
@arturnaumiuk8135
@arturnaumiuk8135 2 года назад
Very well done. 👍
@elorz007
@elorz007 3 года назад
Note that the "wedge" flatmount adaptor for 160mm rotors for the back calliper doesn't usually come with the groupset whereas the front one usually does. Just a heads up if you are buying components to build your own bike.
@DavidMackenzie
@DavidMackenzie 3 года назад
I found that out. Doesn’t make any sense to me.
@1xXNimrodXx1
@1xXNimrodXx1 3 года назад
thanks, great video
@yuval.b
@yuval.b 3 года назад
Definitely the best explanation thet I see . thank you.
@yuval.b
@yuval.b 3 года назад
Thanks, I will check 👍
@RyanBuchmann
@RyanBuchmann 3 года назад
I would really enjoy a good video explaining how to install the Shimano GRX BL-RX812 sub-brake lever into an existing hydraulic brake installation.
@juliocesarcalvoso8010
@juliocesarcalvoso8010 4 месяца назад
Perfect !
@robappleby2359
@robappleby2359 3 года назад
Would love to see a similar video for SRAM AXS (Force or Red)
@taylorhearns4355
@taylorhearns4355 Год назад
Easy step by step install
@bogeyman9979
@bogeyman9979 2 года назад
Thank you bro
@RicardoLopez-qu5nr
@RicardoLopez-qu5nr 3 года назад
Very instructive and clear, many thanks. What is the brand of the stem and the handlebar?
@sjlacey65
@sjlacey65 10 месяцев назад
Great instructional Ollie, but 2 mins in and I know why I use my local bike shop
@johntr76
@johntr76 9 месяцев назад
Thanks Ollie!!!!
@tyleraquino5642
@tyleraquino5642 3 года назад
Recently bled my brakes and had the black bar on the syringe positioned the same way as seen at 16:20 and was (unknowingly) slowly closing the bleed port back up. You can kind of see that happening in the video. Created a few issues for me before realizing what was happening.
@datdudeinred
@datdudeinred 3 года назад
That orbea looks sweeet ❤️
@MS51295
@MS51295 3 года назад
I got a lot from this thank you. Can I ask, new 2020/21 front callipers have a ratchet mechanism on the lower calliper bolt. Is this for changing the way the cantering adjustment is made. I’m a newbie bike builder working in a busy bike shop, thanks again 👍
@st3ppenwolf
@st3ppenwolf 10 месяцев назад
good stuff!
@stuartpatterson3188
@stuartpatterson3188 3 года назад
Olly, I noticed that you did it, but you never mentioned why you had the crows foot adapter at 90 degrees to the torque wrench. If anyone is wondering, it keeps the effective length the same, and therefore the torque the same (or near enough, it's not a perfect method, but close enough).
@caramynd
@caramynd 3 года назад
"Every days a school day" i dont have a crows foot adapter, but if i get one i will know now.
@richardhaselwood9478
@richardhaselwood9478 3 года назад
Thanks for the tip. I haven't even seen that on the Park Tool videos.
@EONONInstallation
@EONONInstallation 2 года назад
Except: As used, you can see that it ends up at about 30 degrees to the axis of the torque wrench... Which means the torque ended up a little different. :)
@florenciogali608
@florenciogali608 3 года назад
thanks a lot
@karstenmeinders4844
@karstenmeinders4844 3 года назад
Thanks. Now I also know how to calibrate the brakes so it does not rub on the rotor
@Jasondom-kc7or
@Jasondom-kc7or 3 года назад
I noticed you didn't talk about expecting air bubbles to come through in the reservoir and what to do if the brake feels spongy after bleeding or there is lots of travel in the leaver or the loss of breaking if the bike was turned upside down. Will there be a part 2 to this video as it's not quite as simple as that and think it's worth will sharing with your viewers/home mechanics
@alainpfammatter8224
@alainpfammatter8224 3 года назад
Great video. Thanks. Is there a way how I can remove the olive and the piston thing from the braking cable once it has been installed?
@gcntech
@gcntech 3 года назад
Hi Alain, to remove, it's best practise to cut the hose to remove and discard the section with the brass olive and the barb (being careful not to hit the barb with your cutters so as not to damage them). The barb and olive should be replaced with new ones but the nut is reusable!
@shawnhoulihan7794
@shawnhoulihan7794 3 года назад
I've watched enough dream build to already know this process
@usaidadnan1008
@usaidadnan1008 3 года назад
This is just perfect as I just bought a gravel bike that had mechanical disc brakes and I want to upgrade to hydraulic brakes
@markalfresco
@markalfresco 3 года назад
Hydraulic came on my grail, 105 and they are the best..
@usaidadnan1008
@usaidadnan1008 3 года назад
@@markalfresco yeah I plan on upgrading my groupset to Ultegra Di2 hydraulic disc brakes. Have heard great things about them
@tomahoks
@tomahoks 3 года назад
BTDT
@mididoctors
@mididoctors 3 года назад
Where the mech discs functional and safe? What brand ?
@usaidadnan1008
@usaidadnan1008 3 года назад
@@mididoctors my bike came with tektro mechanical disc brakes and they are perfectly fine and safe. The only reason I want to change is because I like doing long and technical descents and hydraulic disc brakes are better for that.
@graemejwsmith
@graemejwsmith 8 месяцев назад
The Tube cutter is an expensive investment for occasional use. You can get just as clean a cut with a $10 Co-Ax cable stripper set on its smallest setting. Loads to choose from in your favorite online store. The barb can be lightly tapped in without the help of a special tool. Cable routing - some stiff garden wire with the tip bent over into a tight smooth bend gets the job done for cents. Especially if you are having to find the route on a frame that doesn't have messengers already fitted.
@ferdburfle3089
@ferdburfle3089 3 года назад
Where did you get the foam sleeve you used, does it also fit a Di2 wire and what is the internal and external diameters? Thanks
@illyadmark3223
@illyadmark3223 3 года назад
I'm upgrading to Tiagra with hydraulic brakes, hoping that the process is similar.
@juanandreszegers1352
@juanandreszegers1352 Месяц назад
Hey! Does this fitting guide works also for gravel GRX Shimano? Thank you :)
@markalfresco
@markalfresco 3 года назад
Really interesting, I was wondering how the disks come off, as I come from a mtb background.
@scottlstone
@scottlstone 2 года назад
Same way as MTB either centre lock or 6 bolt
@ic5sm
@ic5sm 2 года назад
I've been watching your vids Can i ask what kind of shimano disc brakes are you using
@noidicyt
@noidicyt 3 года назад
#askgcntech Hi GCNies, I currently ride a bike with 105 r7000 on it and think about updating it to Ultegra Di2. I‘m a little anxious though that I come across some serious issues, e.g. internal routing problems when switching out the cables. Any suggestions or even a howto video? Thanks!
@oheso
@oheso 3 года назад
For a GCN video, that was surprisingly clear and complete. Well done and thank you!
@palimarum.gabriel9270
@palimarum.gabriel9270 2 года назад
Pppp
@hsimw2001
@hsimw2001 3 года назад
Thanks much for video, I planning to upgrade my shifters, my question is do I need to remove the hydraulic fluids?
@scottlstone
@scottlstone 2 года назад
You can do, it’ll be less messy but not completely necessary, you could simply just unbolt at the shifter and drain whatever is in the top part of the hose into a cup. Replace with a new olive and rebleed fully. You’ll find a lot of short cuts along the way.
@8191mark
@8191mark 3 года назад
How many newton meters should the calliper bolts be tightened to on a carbon frame?
@user-uh4cg8mr2h
@user-uh4cg8mr2h Год назад
Out of curiosity: where can the crow foot adaptor be bought from?
@user-bd1hk9xj8y
@user-bd1hk9xj8y Год назад
any tips on what to do if there's not a lot of room in the pads and the rotor?
@donschloth5785
@donschloth5785 3 года назад
Can you tell me the brand of brake rotor you are using on this project? Thank you.
@s.3331
@s.3331 Год назад
Hi, I love the color of this bike. What is it? Perl orange? any code? and what is this frame? I would like to build a gravel of this color, could you help?
@lboogie3171
@lboogie3171 3 года назад
I’ve my new disk break setup.. definitely saves carbon wheels 😁
@diegotoledo6798
@diegotoledo6798 3 года назад
Does this tutorial apply to GRX components as well?
@bwlucas
@bwlucas 3 года назад
Where can I buy that 8mm crow foot adapter? Wish GCN would post links to the parts they use.....
@tamashorgos8230
@tamashorgos8230 3 года назад
Is it the same on Tiagra ST4700 brake as well?
@olekmehera7256
@olekmehera7256 2 года назад
Meanwhile ive ripped apart my rim brake supersix high mod evo from 2017 three times, repainted and put back together by the time we put the fluid in, what a load of faff cba with it
@wardogdauwdd3020
@wardogdauwdd3020 Год назад
Odd question but can I use a hydrolic car style handbreak with these disk break ?
@cyclingmilan
@cyclingmilan 3 года назад
Oliver, why don't you just do it like it says in the Shimano manual?
@richardharris8538
@richardharris8538 3 года назад
I have an off-topic question, Ollie. I have an Ultegra FC 6700 (2 x 11) crank set, with172.5 long cranks. My shoes intersect with the tires, so I'd be safer with shorter cranks. Can I use any Shimano or any Ultegra cranks or crank sets, or does it have to be replaced with FC 6700?
@jasongirvan6729
@jasongirvan6729 3 года назад
Great job Ollie. I have a question though. Torque wrench practices teach us that when using a crows foot adapter such as you use, you must then account for this leverage in the value or the setting which results in a lower setting. This must be accounted for as due to the the position of the crows foot this can change by as much 30 or more %. So my question is was that 5nm with this adjustment value or is this value shimano says to use with a crows foot.
@Martinni151
@Martinni151 Год назад
@everyone Hey guys, I am switching to a new frame. but my grx 400 hydraulic sti are routed internally from the old frame. Do I have to drain the whole fluid, and potentially replace the hydraulic line/cables? Tnx.
@apmeehan
@apmeehan Год назад
Does anyone know what's going on at 17:46, when it cuts to him doing something with the lever funnel that seems to send oil rushing back into the syringe? Is it just to recover some oil from the funnel to save for another day?
@bryanpuentes7028
@bryanpuentes7028 Год назад
How much fluid do you need for ultegra 8020? Thank you
@wiggieben
@wiggieben 3 года назад
Can you run a Deore XT M8000 cassette 11-46 with a 105 (long cage) rear mech? It’s on a gravel bike running a 1x11 set up with bar end shifter.
@richardhaselwood9478
@richardhaselwood9478 3 года назад
Don't think so. Apparently the cable pull is different between Shimano road and MTB shifters. I could be wrong
@stephenjakeman8095
@stephenjakeman8095 Год назад
I noticed the handle bars were straight when you measured the hose to cut, shouldn't you turn the handle bars to ensure there is enough play?
@vincentvanhalewyck4832
@vincentvanhalewyck4832 3 года назад
What foam liner did you use , and where to purchase?
@asdfqwerwret
@asdfqwerwret 3 года назад
#askGCNtech if the calipers come with the hydraulic hose pre-installed, if it safe to assume the connecting bolts are already tightened to spec?
@povertyspec9651
@povertyspec9651 11 месяцев назад
Shimano brakes come with the hose connected to the caliper. They should come with the cable connected to the levers instead. I had to disconnect the hose from the caliper to get the hose routed through the fork.
@falcoperegrinus82
@falcoperegrinus82 Год назад
What torque for the frame mounting bolts?
@bele13
@bele13 3 года назад
Did I miss something or did the bleeding part consist only of pushing the oil into the system? I feel like this might leave some air in the system, which would cause trouble when braking. After all, if you're not moving the pistons, why would you need a bleed block?
@tflspitfire
@tflspitfire 3 года назад
no expert here, but if you do not put the block in, the pistons can be pushed out of the caliper. I think this would ruin the entire brake. When there is fluid in the hoses, this could easily happen when you accidentally bump into one of the levers...And this way, the pistons are safely pushed all the way back, this way you cant put to much fluid into the system. ...and yep, normally you would do all sorts of shaking and tapping to get rid of all the bubbles.
@eduardorufino8596
@eduardorufino8596 3 года назад
Also if you noticed when we had the fluid in he was pulling on the lever multiple times that makes air bubbles get out the system crating a much more tighter feel when braking. (Don't forget the bleed block is still in the caliper for the pistons)
@TheDaern
@TheDaern 3 года назад
Thanks for the video, Ollie - clear and concise. I think others have mentioned the bleeding technique. The full Shimano process is a bit more involved and, in my own experience anyway, vital to getting decent lever feel, where it doesn't feel that you're grabbing a load of air at every pull of the lever. TBH, that's a video in its own right, and would be well worth doing as it's a dark art and so often done wrong. Maybe one for the future? Also, as a note on the bike - I love the clean lines of hidden cables as much as the next person, but the part of me that rides in Yorkshire winces at the sight of cables running through the middle of headset bearings and the thought that swapping these is transformed from a 15 minute job into one that is likely to take several hours! What are your own thoughts around this development in bike design? A step too far?
@richardhaselwood9478
@richardhaselwood9478 3 года назад
Good argument. But, even having replaced my internal cables and housings, a few times, with the associated swearing, I still prefer them over external, if only because it keeps a lot of muck out of the cables and housing, and it looks cleaner. I know, form over function argument there.......
@manfredmuench2657
@manfredmuench2657 3 года назад
#askGCNTech I have noticed recently that when I pull on my front brake at any speed [6 year old Tektro Hydraulic] the front wheel moves to the left, top view obviously. I have no idea how long this has been happening but looks worrying. I have checked the wheel bearings and centred the caliper to no avail. Could it be one of the pistons seized, or is this normal?
@stevenoky6562
@stevenoky6562 3 года назад
#askGCNTech Hi, i have unused crankset Claris R2000. I was planning to buy an entry level bike for indoor trainer, but my local bike shops were out of stock. So i was thinking to put it on my 105 r7000 groupset bike because my current 105 crank is really worn out. Is it possible? Thanks!
@tg8848
@tg8848 3 года назад
#askgcntech I got the GRX Brakes. Cannot find any olive. Is it a different procedure?
@richardhaselwood9478
@richardhaselwood9478 3 года назад
Very important piece of equipment prior to routing internal cables, the swear jar, and make sure the kids are at the other end of the house. Even with an internal routing kit (which are magic BTW), there will be enough money in the swear jar for a nice holiday 🤑
@treborparkes
@treborparkes 3 года назад
Richard Haselwood just finished the routing. The neighborhood in concerned for my families welfare after all swearing going on during the project.
@richardhaselwood9478
@richardhaselwood9478 3 года назад
@@treborparkes Maybe the recommended tools list should include good sound proofing of your workshop :)
@treborparkes
@treborparkes 3 года назад
Truth
@WyRmiE
@WyRmiE 10 месяцев назад
dont forget that sometimes you have to restart the pistons, they extend continuously as you rotors get thinner and thinner due to wear, so if you replace just the rotors you might have rub no matter how you are centering the calipers and nothing helps you, push the pistons with pads OUT to create bigger gap and then it will be ok
@ingriccardopezzi
@ingriccardopezzi Год назад
What kind of grease I had to put on the nuts?
@mukundmolekule
@mukundmolekule 5 месяцев назад
how ever the kit is costly but the workmanship one must appreciate off course there is different set of customers who can choose these hydraulic brakes nice work shop rather I can call it work studio.
@tomahoks
@tomahoks 3 года назад
2.39: Yeah yeah yeah. Bike must be silent.
@mattiasvanschelvergem7844
@mattiasvanschelvergem7844 3 года назад
Where can I buy this? Thanks
@mididoctors
@mididoctors 3 года назад
Are mechanical discs brakes for the road any good? This is a faff
@jan8925
@jan8925 2 года назад
Front brake at the right side?
@s.3331
@s.3331 Год назад
can annybody help me with the question wgat is the COLOR CODE of this orange frame in the footage above?
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