How to Get a Hand Plane Blade Scary Sharp in 90 Seconds - Essential Woodworking Skills

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In this woodworking skills video I show you how to get a hand plane scary sharp in about 90 seconds. Sharpen your hand plane this way for excellent results, shavings and maximum hand tool woodworking enjoyment. Thanks for watching! Please like, comment and subscribe. Cheers!
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@katzmosestools 5 лет назад

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@anubispup4760 5 лет назад

I just got a new standard hand plane, (well relitively new since it was in an antique shop it was in great condition), and after buying it I noticed something off about the blade edge. It is a diamond edge. And my questions for you are, can I sharpen a diamond edge on my whetstones and strap, do I ever actually have to sharpen it, what do I do with something like this?

@thomasdean5gtbg180 4 года назад

Anubis Pup 9(.

@katzmosestools 4 года назад

@@anubispup4760 I've never even heard of that type of blade

@anubispup4760 4 года назад

@@katzmosestools So, Diamond Edge is the strictly brand apparently. However the blade for it was apparently replaced at some point and the edge was extremely hard and very difficult to sharpen, so for awhile I thought it was actually diamond edged like some tools I've used in the past.

@Exiledk 3 года назад

Having mastered this, I no longer need to shave. I just plane my face....

@atomicwinter31 3 года назад

I planed off a piece of my hand once, made a human version of a potato chip with the base of my thumb, lol.

@pignewton9840 3 года назад

@@atomicwinter31 no

@atomicwinter31 3 года назад

@@pignewton9840 i didnt even have any adrenaline when it happened, i just felt a chip peel off, looked at my hand, and there was just blood pouring out.

@thiccteddybear6978 3 года назад

@@atomicwinter31 no just no

@mathewtaylor2007 3 года назад

Do NOT try this on your balls.

@joelesko3267 4 года назад

I absolutely love what you do bud!! I literally went from having no clue how to sharpen chisels and planer irons to basically using my planer iron as a mirror and shaving my face with my chissel. You literally make learning new skills effortless and super easy to understand and follow. Between binge watching tutorials from Matt Eslea and yourself, I really feel like in a few years time I will be close your level of expertise!! Sincerely from the bottom of my heart I really appreciate what you do pal!! Keep up the greatness!!

@katzmosestools 4 года назад

I really appreciate the kind words bud

@TheRealPlato 6 месяцев назад

checking in a few years later, any progress?

@mjremy2605 2 месяца назад

Ha ha ha! Funny. Chisel shaving, new concept. You can save a lot on razors now. fyi CHISEL, not CHISSEL.

@christophersouza8792 3 года назад

Jon you are such an enjoyable person to watch/listen to......thanks for always sharing

@GotItMade 4 года назад

Very helpful. Thank you for sharing.

@watermain48 5 лет назад

Nice demonstration. Thanks Jonathan.

@joanwoodson745 4 года назад

Fantastic--super clear. All the stuff I sort of knew, but didn't really. Thx much!!

@ecaff9515 4 года назад

Excellent Thank you for sharing

@paulhaggett3710 4 года назад

Wow, I’ve never put a micro-bevel on the back of a plane iron before. I’ve always tried to keep the back mirror bright and flat. Will give this a go. Thank you Matt- love your quality tools and enthusiasm. I thought I knew about sharpening but ended up watching your video several times.

@tashapalmer4519 4 года назад

Thank you. Fantastic video. I bought waterstones but haven't had the confidence to get them out and have a go. Now I do :)

@NateDizity1420 3 года назад

Great video. I'm restoring a 1920s Stanley #3 and this def just answered alot of questions I had about sharpening and how it works

@johnsall6274 9 месяцев назад

We recently lumbered a 36" maple, a 36" white ash, and a 32" pecan. After drying, we tried planing with a Rigid (Home Depot) 13" planer with 2 HSS knives ru-vid.comUgkxIzvvTi3_Qc8JnVdYYRJCvuoDC4QjTzeL . This job was clearly too much for that machine. The pecan was particularly difficult, due to heavy mineral deposits, and a sharp pair of HSS knives would be consumed by a mere 3 boards. We were also having lots of problems from chip bruising, due to poor dust collection. The shavings came off like straw and jammed in the 4" hose.We bought the DW735 simply to be able to run carbide blades, which worked brilliantly for the pecan. However, we found it to be a much, MUCH nicer machine. It was far more rigid than the "Rigid" planer, and far more accurate as well. But what I liked most about it was the dust feed. This machine has its own blower, which shreds the "straw" like shavings as they come off the cutting head and helps boost the shavings into the dust collection system. No more clogs! It's also nicely sealed so that the internals stay quite clean. This is just a well tempered machine that's a delight to use. It literally cut the labor in half. Just another example of getting what you pay for.

@ldboy2004 3 года назад

First time woodworker, and got a great result from this method!

@22tadi 2 года назад

Thank you, I appreciate your valuable information

@WestCoastInfluence 2 года назад

Best sharping video I’ve seen on RU-vid hands down

@weechitamex 4 года назад

Jonathan Katz-Moses : THANK YOU SIR FOR YOUR TIME AND SHARING YOUR TALENTS .

@PeterHowell 3 года назад

Thank you for this! Wife walked in during a close up and wanted to know why I'm getting sharpening advice from Patton Oswald.

@dportis47 7 месяцев назад

I learned a lot thank you.

@contra1124 Год назад

I inherited a set of really nice hand planes and now I know how to keep them sharp, thank you!

@ronmiller682 4 года назад

Great video thank for sharing.

@TheBearGrylz 4 года назад

Always absolutely blown away by the detail you show in your how to vids. Great tips here.

@mothers22 2 года назад

This works, sharpened 6 planes yesterday, thank you.

@JohnB1956 3 года назад

My old man, who was a boat builder said, "If you can shave your arm with the blade, it's sharp enough." Also, if there are no dings in it, stropping the blade often keeps it fresh.

@91Reddevils 3 года назад

Hi! I really like your videos, because your tips are really simple. Also I like that your videos are 4k quality, so that we can really see all the details and thats very important for me. Cheers from Slovenija.

@pachting 4 года назад

Thanks. Now i can make an old plane work again.

@ernestopaguaga1067 3 года назад

Autentic work wonderfull good job🙋👍

@jackknows6509 3 года назад

Awesome, thanks

@JohnMartinez-sm1sk 4 года назад

Great video.

@mjremy2605 2 месяца назад

A great video! Superbly explained and with crystal clear visuals. So deeply appreciate this. Thank you, Jonathan! 🙏 A huge thank you too, for NO MUSIC!!! What joy. I needed to hear the sharpening sounds too, that was educational.🥰❤

@FredMcIntyre 5 лет назад

Thanks for the info Jonathan! 😃👍🏻👊🏻

@richardgalli7262 4 года назад

Very educational

@ecaff9515 Год назад

Excellent

@poepflater 4 года назад

Learned a lot of things I didn't know I didn't know.

@arielmetamorphosis 3 года назад

I learned, I learned that I learned a lot

@danielpoff4577 Год назад

Jonathon, I've been an educator at the university level for more than 35 years. Your presentation/teaching style exemplifies among the best that I've seen in all my career. Your teaching is clear, easy to follow, and quite thorough. Bravo to you and your channel. I can see why you have over 475K subscribers. Keep doing what you do so well!

@JustTony72 5 лет назад

I bought a cheap horrible genetic branded no.4 a few years back when getting into working on the house and woodworking. Put me off hand planes. But then one day I came across a couple of old Stanley's now I've got a small collection. Sharpening then right was such a big part of the enjoyment of using them.

@tonwanten6417 3 года назад

Thank you

@brandocommando36 Год назад

wow thats wicked sharp. i was just gonna hit ut with the bench grinder 😅thanks for sharing !!

@fredparsons5134 2 года назад

Excellent video Jonathan. I was wondering how sharp the blade would be before the strop? Does the strop really give the edge the best sharpness?

@sinai613 5 лет назад

Happy Passover from Chicago ❤️

@katzmosestools 5 лет назад

Mazel!

@johnfrench8714 4 года назад

Some people have to climb a mountain & speak to a wise man to make sense of this world, I just need to watch tools being cared for and I find inner peace. Cheers from a shed in England. (Well I'm not a shed, that would be really weird, but you know)

@lewisbates3468 3 года назад

here in my shed, sharpening my lovely tools..... its a sad story...

@silverbacksworld 2 года назад

Thanks

@Mustafa-dm5co Год назад

I'm a fan of Matt Estlea and by you mentioning him positively in your video talks a lot about your great ethics my friend, thanks for your great video and I'm happily subscribing to your channel

@FerAndersson 3 года назад

That upside down writing just earned you a subscriber! Thank you sir!

@randywright7933 5 лет назад

A sharp tutorial haha thanks Katz.

@katzmosestools 5 лет назад

Very punny

@randywright7933 5 лет назад

@@katzmosestools thanks for noticing Junior ;0)

@joshharroun2004 3 года назад

Holy cow am I grateful I can freehand sharpen

@stoneyjt 4 года назад

hey love your video, at the 8:27 you said about checking that it's still square, if it's not how and what would be the best way to square it off again before you carry on sharpening?

@spagati 4 года назад

I enjoy to sharpen my tools and take my time to do it. In the beginning I spent a lot of time to restore the blades of old tools, later I spent a lot of time to correct my mistakes, because the stones I used weren’t flat. So keep your stones flat and enjoy the process of sharpening. First improve your results than the speed.

@ludovicobonsignore4284 4 года назад

I did the same... ahahahahahah ;-)

@sunnyday1843 2 года назад

He the smartest tool in that shed!!

@imcg Год назад

Hi Jonathan, great video. I cant seem to achieve anywhere near this with a double sided oil stone. I must be doing something wrong lol! I will keep trying though

@sanderlingphotography 3 года назад

Thanks for the videos. Is it possible to use a blade bevel-down on a low-plane block? So as to get a cutting angle of only 12 degrees? I get that you'd have to grind the blade down, so maybe that would weaken it too much?

@user-kh1yy1dq3g 9 месяцев назад

Good sharpening is not about good luck. It is about the right tools & know-how.

@wwscott7595 5 лет назад

Hullo young man. Now when I watched the first video I gained super knowledge to hone (get it) my skills especially using the jig you have. I was the other type. Now I said at the time that the cost of all the sharpening equipment that you were using was for us in the UK was very expensive. now I am not one to repeat myself, I say repeat myself, but are you not repeating yourself. Read this out in your voice.

@BiP00 5 лет назад

"I use my angle grinder..." Said every woodworking psychopath out there

@lewisbates3468 3 года назад

it gets through the rusty bits quicker

@smithy1578 2 года назад

I just got an old Stanley no 2 wood plane that’s in really good shape but I am still soaking it in rust remover and getting everything in order before I use it

@brandenjones716 4 года назад

Just the tip!!!!

@kronamadness7119 10 месяцев назад

Incredibly useful video I'll be honest mine is not as beautiful especially without guide, and I still stuggle to set up the hand planer. BUT I progressed a lot in a short time thanks to this channel 😄

@TrixyLixyStix Год назад

Wow. I so regret taking my brand new plane and attacking my 'scraping on my kitchen floor', door now. I guess it gives me the chance to practice my ninja blade sharpening technique. Just getting into working with wood. You make me realise how far there is to go. Great vid, mate.

@supergimp2000 3 года назад

"Just the tip..." "GENTLEMEN....." There. Fixed it.

@The411 3 года назад

Just the tip.... but I lied.

@MikeGoodTinT 3 года назад

Finally got scary sharp thanks to this video - BTW, you link for the polishing compound is the same as the link for the stones.

@roofermarc1 10 месяцев назад

I've been doing it all wrong. Thanks for the lesson

@gerrygolder7537 3 года назад

Please tell me the brand of the wet stone . Having trouble finding a similar one here in Australia. Great tutorial.

@danielgeng2306 5 лет назад

The David Charlesworth ruler trick :)

@MJ-nb1qn 4 года назад

Give credit where it is due!

@cgdibble 3 года назад

If you are sharpening routinely, how do you store your stones? My understanding is that storing whetstones in water long term isn't great for them. But, I find myself not good at timing my sharpening needs and knowing when to fill the bin with water to start the soak.

@richardgoebel226 5 лет назад

Something I did not see you do on the video but I figure you do it anyway. When you wipe off the blade between grits wipe off the roller, too. Just as you can transfer larger pieces of grit from the coarse stones to the finer stones via the blade you can transfer even more on the roller. Second point is locking your wrists. I lock them against my stomach and strop the blade while moving my entire body sideways. Of course the strop is oriented sideways, also.

@ChristopherClaudioSkierka 2 года назад

Hi there great video. I am about to buy some water stones to sharpen my block stanley no 4 plane. What stone grades did you say use for this purpose? Thank you in advance, Chris

@TwoSierraEcho 5 лет назад

I've been reluctant to buy a decent hand plane other than a $10 one from the big box store. I can't afford to epically mess up during the sharpening process. But your videos lately have been very educational in that area. Not ready to pull the trigger yet but I'm getting there. :) Thanks for all your help.

@williamsimpson2083 5 лет назад

Legend has it that Jonathon Katz-Moses's tools are so scared of losing social media feuds that the come alive like they're in Toy Story and sharpen themselves...

@katzmosestools 5 лет назад

Hahaha yep

@BradsWorkbench 5 лет назад

I saw rob cosman do the same back bevel. He calls it the will walker ruler trick..... guy must be good 😝

@rjamsbury1 5 лет назад

No he doesn't! He calls it correctly the David Charlesworth ruler trick 😃

@BradsWorkbench 5 лет назад

Robert Amsbury shoosh! 😉😝

@KellyKarnation 3 месяца назад

Great video, thank you for sharing I'd like to ask, can I use a sharpening stone from Harbor Freight? It's the price range I need. Will it suffice?

@sickoftheleftwingscum 4 года назад

Johnathan what would happen if you could sharpen a chistle/plane blade by concaving it like a ski jump would it cut even better !

@walterbartek6830 5 лет назад

Thoughts on using abrasive sheets on float glass such as the scary sharp technique from Matthew Platt at Workshop Heaven?

@katzmosestools 5 лет назад

Whatever works but sandpaper wears pretty quickly when wet and without moisture it would get clogged quickly

@dougfreeman3229 4 года назад

Works great. Use mylar backed abrasive such as used for polishing the ends of fiber optic cable. The abrasive lasts a long time, and using a little water keeps it clear. Use diamond stones for coarse work. My sheet abrasives start at 25um and go down to 0.3um, no stropping required.

@gav2759 5 лет назад

Not really exploring the potential of bevel ups. The whole point is, they are effectively "variable angle" planes and most useful when deployed on difficult woods at 60 degrees or higher.

@Nachodaddy082806 5 лет назад

One thing I learned from Paul Sellers is to be sure I don't lift up on the back end of the blade throughout the strop stroke.

@katzmosestools 5 лет назад

Great advice

@RQFLS 5 лет назад

Why not?

@Nachodaddy082806 5 лет назад

@@RQFLS because not maintaining the angle while stropping can dull the edge that we worked so hard for. Even if on a minuscule level.

@Nachodaddy082806 5 лет назад

@@RQFLS edited the original content to clarify a little more.

@MJ-nb1qn 4 года назад

Very true. For me I find the pressure JKM is using is more than needed. Maybe it’s the strop, or leather, as I make my strops.

@rickbraden4272 Год назад

Do you push the iron down on the stone while I using it away from you or pulling it back towards you? Thanknyou.

@katherynreed 4 года назад

So I’m knew to all this and I have a kobalt trimming plane. All I’m doing is shaving some small 1 in branches to make them have a little bit of a flat side. Anyways I can’t seem to get this thing set right and I’m not real sure how to sharpen it. Would I sharpen it like one in this video.

@reframeyourbody 4 года назад

I was thinking wouldn’t a magnetic honing guide be much easier to use and work well? Maybe a product you could work your Katz Magic

@Vaasssoooo Год назад

I am having a plane blade with carbide tip. Having tough time to put it for first use. Only diamond stones are able to remove material from the plane. I don’t yet have whetstones higher than 170 grit. I will be getting 400 and 1000 grit diamond whetstones which may help to get better finish than now. But I seriously doubt if I will be able to successfully strop this carbide tip plane. I would really appreciate a guidance on carbide tipped plane.

@ericsnyder3689 4 года назад

That video delivered only and exactly what I wanted to see and info I was looking for, edited nicely, and to the point (couldn't avoid that pun, sorry). Well done. Gonna go sharpen with this technique rather than read the idiot commenters who disagree with this. Go do something.

@frequencysteve 4 года назад

Some of the links (water stones, polishing compound, and leather strop) are either not working or the item is “unavailable.” Do you have some alternative links or alternative item suggestions for those?

@carlbruschnigjr1757 4 года назад

Woodcraft.com

@basstrammel1322 8 месяцев назад

I would LOVE some input on a situation: A great-grandfather had an oddly shaped grindstone that I think is quite emotional to me, but should I let someone cut it so I can sharpen my kitchen knifes on it? It's shaped like a stone-age rough sledgehammer without a hole, but he sharpened his blades on one half of the curved nside. An architect and furniture carpenter, working his planes to the core. I have a stack of different exotic wood pieces from the 1800s (his dad's), a pristine teak leveller with brass adjustable labelles, a hand-saw with beautiful carved teak handle, and tools and nick-nacks and so-forths. But that grindstone speaks to me, it's hold so much history. But leave it be, or let someone cut it straight? I could not be more torn between the options. It's so much used It would not wonder me if it was from the early 1700s. I've seen an old tool or two in my life. I know how to sharpen knives pretty well, I've done it by hand for 20 years at work and at home. I'm very confident in it, I would never do this man wrong. I'm doing 32.5 degrees at P2000 now. (Guess which line of family who thaught me that when I was 11 years old 🙂). I'm second to last in line for these things, I'll tell my niece about the significance when she grows up. Cut, or no cut?

@basstrammel1322 8 месяцев назад

I think i should get my friend at the head stone mason to cut it lenghtwise, p1000 on one side, maybe p2200 on the other one. So all the sharpening through history is still there, and I'll give it all to my niece whens she's established.

@zaldycabral8228 3 года назад

Sir my question is my blade is easy gone the sharp what kind of blade are you using it my is stanley 2" wide but easy remove the sharpness what can do

@dannyreid2374 4 года назад

I use it to shave hairs off my arm to know if it’s really shard wonderfull lesson I have problems with sharpening my carving Chizels they are very tricky because most of them are concave or v shape have any lesson on those?

@Andy-in8ej 3 года назад

Yes, go back to school and learn how to spell you dickwad.

@jadejones2488 3 года назад

I don't even own an plane, only came here because I find this do therapeutic 😌

@wolverinebear5357 5 лет назад

That jig has a adjustable roller wheel for the micro bevel, its spring loaded turn it from 12 o'clock to 6 o'clock I just realized it had this feature an I didnt hear you mention it. I guess it's not a review for the jig tho is it, stay sharp my friends.

@katzmosestools 5 лет назад

I believe that it only raises one side giving the micro bevel a skew so I don't use it

@crleighton88 4 года назад

@@katzmosestools The mount for the roller axle is equally off center on both sides, so it shouldn't cause a skew. You can also turn it 90 degrees for a ~1 degree micro bevel.

@matrixmodulator 4 года назад

What is the strop doing to the iron exactly?

@lukasparciany6118 3 года назад

F..... s...... took me 3 days to get that ( just started woodworking) ,thanks for video all perfect now! Tip: if u starting with not high quality tools check for accuracy ,coz my jig for sharpening probably randomly placed 30 degrees on scale! Get yourself a good one!

@tomb0568 5 лет назад

Thank you for the informartions. What plane i should buy as a beginner. Low angle or standard ?

@katzmosestools 5 лет назад

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@rjtumble 5 лет назад

I'm such a 14 year old...so many "just the tip" jokes.

@CrazyNerdInventor 4 года назад

I am 14 and those "just the tip" jokes didn't even occur to me.

@MJ-nb1qn 4 года назад

“Tip”?

@vincekline7299 4 года назад

Just to see how it feels!

@Aroyer1988 4 года назад

Am I to understand that on a low angle plane you would put a primary bevel of 20 and a micro of 25?

@tonyennis3008 4 года назад

I'd like to see how that blade does on pine endgrain.

@assnapkined9295 3 года назад

Why is that? I’m a newb and I just got my first hand plane. Pine is pretty soft no?

@tonyennis3008 3 года назад

@@assnapkined9295 It is, and that's the issue. It will crush before it cuts if the iron isn't sharp enough.

@jeffportnoff7302 Год назад

do ou have a link to the veratas jig?

@peteraugust5295 3 года назад

For me as a metal person it is very interesting to see these planes. Honestly I have never seen a "standard" low angle plane" before. I did not even know they existed. I actually never held a plane made from steel in my hands. It really seems as if german carpentership is somewhat behind in that field. All I am used to is those nasty wooden planes that no one expect a zen master can set up right.

@juhajuntunen7866 Год назад

My great grandfather and grandfather both were farmers and part time black smith. My father remember that at home there was about 30 different home made plane, every one for different job. Now one router bit = one plane.

@jonhandel8159 2 года назад

Is it just me, or did anyone else twitch and bristle every time he gestures with his hands within inches of a razor sharp blade?

@Soviless99 4 года назад

my hand plane is like stuttering over a wood 2x4 gouging the wood. ive no experience with hand planers and found it in a barn and cleaned off its rust. it seemed pretty sharp as it can cut the sides of the 2x4 but going along the widthier part of the 2x4, it cant shave wood. is it not sharp enough or something? my hand plane is a stanley almost exactly like the old school one youre using except the frog is adjustable by two screws to move it forward or backward

@katzmosestools 4 года назад

Sounds like you need to plane the other way (grain direction) and/or sharpen it (most likely). Also hardwood is much easier to plane than soft wood.

@Soviless99 4 года назад

@@katzmosestools wow thanks for the response! (and quick at that!). I will give sharpening a go and also will try it on hard wood after. yea it was a douglas fir 2x4 i think. im trying to make bows and arrows lool

@carlbruschnigjr1757 4 года назад

Another thing you might check is to see if the plane is flat. Use a straight edge on the bottom of the plane. If you see any light along the edge, you'll have to flatten the bottom. Use a piece of tempered glass and some lapping compound and a bit of elbow grease. Work it until you have a clean, smooth bottom. Then wipe on just a little polish. When complete, it will glide over the wood with very little effort.

@Soviless99 4 года назад

@@carlbruschnigjr1757 ok thank you!

@TheMrchuck2000 4 года назад

Soviless99 use regular float glass; it’s flatter! Tempered glass warps during the tempering process.

@philclennell 6 месяцев назад

That Veritas jig must be the most uncomfortable and cumbersome one out there. Their parallel jaw offering is way better, more so than the LN if I may say so. I've tried every method of sharpening under the sun and always gone back to a jig for repeatability and precision. Just don't push it forward (rounds the edge) or strop (rounds the edge). Start on diamond stone(s) and finish on a fine water stone with a small micro bevel up another couple of degrees. Keep the iron dead flat or use the Charlesworth ruler trick. Job done.

@garrettdillon4820 4 года назад

Would you feather the edges on a block plane as well?

@katzmosestools 4 года назад

Sure.

@katzmosestools 4 года назад

All planes except maybe some specialty ones

@garrettdillon4820 4 года назад

Jonathan Katz-Moses thanks

@cherylmartin4050 3 года назад

Whats the strawp for? Or does

@jaykimble5188 3 года назад

That last step doing the back; could stropping take care of that burr the same way?

@jimfreeman3636 4 года назад

I assume you know about the micro-bevel adjustment down on the roller shaft of the Veritas jig? Beautiful tool although a tad expensive. Them, Lie-Neilsen and Lee Valley are a joy to own.

@walrus7814 4 года назад

Mr Harrison says hello, Jonathan Katz-Moses.

@ophammerdin8579 2 года назад

Is this for minor repair because my blades need to at least start at 220 grit due to chips in the steal. Usually this is from me planning only two sides of a board. Watching everyone makes me feel I need better blades.