How to make a ring from scratch. 

Thanks 😊 I do try to.

Also this was my first real video on here, happy to see that it's still being watched.

Thanks and yeah when working with copper and brass you need to seal them or they like to react with the elements and turn stuff green

Well I'm happy to hear that you find this helpful so many years after I made it and this is actually one of my very first videos I ever made for my channel. 😁👍

Thank you and I'm happy it helped using common tools in the video.

@@block4565 I for one like using all my little files and whatnot. I made one of these rings today and I've been trying for 2 weeks. I finally figured out my solder wasn't flowing due to the heat not being high enough. So glad it finally happened. Just need to make 5 more rings then I can try make something with more difficulty. All the little skills need to be developed.

Stupid 60s mentality 🥲

No problem, I'm just happy to see that my videos are helping people out.

I would love to know what you use as in ingredients. I want to try with copper to do the ring. The pickle? what you can use at home, without buying all the gadgets etc. I want to do as cheap as until I get better with making rings.

Cadwaladr basically lol

your video is so detailed, THANK YOU! Thank you for taking the time to make such a good video for a newbie like me.

Well thank you very much 😊 this was my very first video too. 😅

@@GomeowCreations Believe me, it has aged well.. 😊

Thank you and seeing that this is one on my 1st videos, that means a lot. If you haven't already, check out my other videos and if you need any help all you need to do is ask 😀

+nancy durrett thank you! That is the direction I wanted to go with my videos. I wanted people to see that you can make jewelry with out worrying about having the best tools. I have spent countless hours watching tutorials in languages I cant understand to learn the craft from just watching them work. I have spent even more time just working with the metals to see what I can and can't do with them. I'm happy to see so many people have learned from my videos. Thank you again for leaving this comment. :)

No problem I have have a lot of step by step videos that you might also like 😊👍

Thanks and yeah this video is one of my very first so I'm happy that it still is helping people.

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Oh nice, let me know if you have any questions. 😁👍

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Thanks and I saw that in your new video. Yeah when it comes to bits for my rotary tool, I have a large selection. If you head over to my website I made a list of all the tools that I use 😁👍 Also thank you, this was my very 1st video so I'm happy that people still find and watch it haha

@@GomeowCreations I am a Bigfoot researcher here on youtube and spend a lot of time outdoors searching for them and gifting them. I once found a large brass lure and I made two rings from it. It was the first gift I gave them. The other just disappeared from my back pack. I have been making these little swords and axes for the little people I discovered while researching nature and seeking bigfoot. As crazy at it sounds, I really get some good stuff for my efforts gifting them. I am writing a book and making a documentary on that adventure that I hope really gets out there. I like your rings because I know that I can make some larger rings and smaller rings for my spirited friends. I have a video where we stuck a camera in a baby bigfoots face (accidentally)and overlooked it in the video for two years I created this channel because I am an artist of the day and am now somewhat disabled and had to reinvent my income sources, so I am into this venture in the evenings while sitting in front of tube. I plan to sell most of what I make at barter fairs, something that is becoming big here in Washington state. . I like making sculptures, and recently made a Sasquatch that took 162 hours. It has wire hair (25,000). I probably will start showing my other art and that of my family, we all are artists, all 5 of my kids and even some of the grandkids. I just wanted to share a little, because you are the first channel I subbed to going into my new hobby of ring making. Soon I will show some of mine. Peace to you and yours, and thanks for subbing. Thanks for occupying my mind away from the usual work that I do.

Humour? Haha

No problem 😊👍

I'm happy that I was able to help 😁

+Brenden Fullmer Thank you. After I'm done moving I will see if I can get a new video up showing a simpler way of soldering a ring like this.

I'm happy it helped. Let me know if you have any questions.

+Jessica Pack I also do leave comments much but it is good to get feedback on what I have done. So thank you very much :)

😂no no this 😭 i can't take it 😭😭😭😭😭

Well thank you for your kind words =)

I have never worked with filled wires but I do have one with silver wire. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RJZYjsssVKU.html It's just about the same process. I do suggest working with copper and brass before you start with gold or silver. If you make a mistake when learning it is a lot cheaper to use copper and brass.

Thanks!

Oops wax and max.

I hate using butane to be honest it just takes too long to heat things up and just doesn't put out enough heat. That being said it can be done but you might need 2 torches if you can only get butane

@@GomeowCreations I so agree ! Getting propane first thing - thanks !

I'm using butane and maybe that's my issue. But out of frustration I sat there with the flame until the ring started to warp and solder wouldn't go in the joint.

Lacquer is basically a paint to cover the metal so air and acids can't get to it so it will not tarnish. If you are going to add a clear lacquer or paint to your work you need to make sure it's clean and all oils or waxes are removed do it will stick. When using the wax is good for storage but it will come off quickly if you are going to use the jewelry. Over the years I have learned not to fight with copper and brass jewelry and if you are going to make something using it make sure to add some silver to the parts of it that will come incompact with a persons skin. You can do this with plating or using a thin sheet of silver.

@@GomeowCreations thank you so much for replying and giving me all that information. I have dabbled in copper for bangles a few times. I will certainly remember your advice. Thank you again and stay safe out there

Thanks but why so many times haha

+Foxtrot Designs thank you, I'm happy you liked it.

Copper will oxidize very fast but it can be done. You want the metal as clean as you can so pickling will take any of the oxidation off it. You have to use flux when doing this to keep it from oxidizing at the solder joint. Also heating will not mess up your metal unless you melt it.

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I use hard silver solder and thank you 😁👍

Thanks and not at all, It will tarnish even if you coat it with wax or clear coat it will come off over time. You can use a layer of hard clear resin on it that will last for some time but that is all going to be up to you. I honestly would just make copper jewelry for practice and anything you are going to use just make it in silver. If the copper color is a must you can plate the inside of the ring with silver or gold. Another option that I have been doing is make the inside out of a solid bit of silver so it will not react with the skin and the outside will have that nice copper look

Haha well thank you, this was my first real video too haha

+MrMegachicagorilla Thank you very much. If you have any suggestions for videos let me know.

Not at all. This is 75% silver solder. Look for hard silver solder

Sounds like a good idea for a video seeing that its a long list of things that I would have to go over. I will add this to my list and get a video made in a few weeks.

Thank you =) Do you plan on following in your grandfather's foot steps and become a jeweler?

I really don't know how to or if I even have the skills for it. 😁

Well skill is something you can learn so I'm sure you can do it. 😄

Thank you. I'll see if there is any institution in my country who can teach me that. 😁

Maybe with such a small piece “fire stain won’t be a issue “

So if you are doing this with silver and you over head it it will get some fire stain but it's not the end of the world. You can use a solder pick and melt the sold and it will stick to the pick and you can move that over to the ring and heat both and it will flow onto the fluxed part of the ring. No matter what you do you need to pick it to clean it up from any oxidation and the hardened flux. This will be with any metal you use. When it comes to getting a stain in the metal, like silver it will look alike a darker bit when polishing it. There are 2 ways to get rid of it. 1 sand it off and re polish it. 2 heat the metal up but not too much to get my stains and put it right into some pickling solution. Repeat this over and over again until when you heat it up it no longer gets a tarnish on it and the metal will looks like a nice matte white color. What that heating did is burned off some of the copper that is in the 925 silver leaving a layer of fine silver over it. The stain that was there was oxidized copper in the metal so with that done you can polish it up and it should be gone. I home that makes sense and is understandable 😁👍

@@GomeowCreations thank you so much !

I'm happy to hear that my video helped you. 😀

This is what I used on copper, brass and silver amzn.to/32LzlkP

Sorry I can't find the seller that I got them from but here are some links to similar bits that I use all the time now. Mixed Set 3mm Shank-100 Pieces - amzn.to/2EwkK00 26pcs Diamond-in-rubber Emery Polishing Bit Set - amzn.to/2PGyTIZ Abrasive Bristle Disc Kit for Rotary Tools (I love these and use them on every project now) - amzn.to/2CWgjKe I hope this helps and I did make a video about all the tools that I use, check it out if your interested and all the links to the items are in the description. 20 must have jewelry tools - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-w5MmEC5Bv8U.html

1. You can use electrical wire just make sure it's 999 copper. I can't link to anything in your country but I'm sure you can find something. 2.You have to use flux, especially with copper. Then you heat metals they will start to oxidize, this will make it so your solder will just ball up and not flow. When you use flux it keeps everything clean. Look for something called handy flux or look for a borax cone. Don't use flux for electric solder, it will not work at the temps you need to work at. 3. You can work harden it by hammering it. Something else you can do the help harden it is use a rock tumbler with steel shot in it for a few hours.

@@GomeowCreations well I don't have tumblers an never solder in my life except the thing I have to solder when something electrical breaks. But thanks. I will look for some Flux. My hubby has a big thing that gives a flame, with gas an you have to mix etc... I think I will buy me the thing that you use. So I can handle it more... thanks for the response and when it comes a bit warmer, I will try to make some rings, so that I don't have to make open rings or wire them. It would be so easy if I can solder... nice. Thanks a lot for the time to take for explaining... of to get some electric wire and a torch... big hugs and greetings from belgium...

Kristen Case First off I would like to say, Thank you for being my very 1st comment on youtube. :) Note: I have never used filled metals so this is what I think will happen. If you use the polishing bits (The rubber and diamond ones) on any metal, It will take metal off it. So I think you might be able to get away with maybe the blue one, just to clean up some scratches. If I had some filled wire, I would be more then happy to give it a try. As for the polishing compound and the fabric wheel I think that would work just fine. Renaissance wax: I use this on copper and brass mostly to keep it from tarnishing as fast as it would if it was just polished. Copper really likes to change color so if you do this it will "help" keep it sealed. I also have used it over clear coat to "help" keep the oils from people skin from eating away the clear coat. If you want something that will last a lot longer you will need to look for a metal sealer. I have some on its was to try out now. I will post a review of it after I test it. I hope this helps =)

Well thank you 😊. What would you like to see about my damping tools?

@@GomeowCreations I have no knowledge whatsoever. anything helps. Also, sliver sterling sheets and wire are expensive. Any knowledge about cheaply silver plating copper rings? Thanks.

Well copper does get really soft after heating and most people just work harden it using a hammer. You can also try tumbling it with some stainless steel, this should help work harden it without leaving marks. 😄👍

GomeowCreations thanks! I think I wasn’t hammering enough because I was afraid of breaking or flattening my pieces so I redesigned them into a more 2D style so that I could harden them on an anvil (using a rubber mallet) without changing the design. Your tutorials are so helpful, thanks for sharing your knowledge!

Yeah that is a very good point and a good tip. 😁👍

Hi! How thick is the metal you are looking to use?

I was looking at apiece of copper that is 1.6m and fusing 2 pieces together .so that is where I'm at .btw thanks for your reply

Yeah copper is not the best on its own for rings but it's a good way to practice and learn. It will tarnish if not sealed or plated.

Thank you and at the time I was shooting my videos with my phone so I was a risk to get the phone tool close to the flame. Check out some of my newest videos, you might be able to see things a lot better and I think I explain stuff a lot better too. 😁👍

So you can use a tumbler but you are not going to get a mirror finish unless you take the time to polish it. 😁👍

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QrsL8JpR46c.html this might help

@@GomeowCreations I don't want to use copper plating. Do you have any other suggestions?

I put it around the solder joint and adding a very little solder to it to make it all stick

@@GomeowCreations Thanks! I tried to put a VERY teeny tiny piece of wire solder on it (one that I hammered flat) and tried to wrap coils on top of the solder before torching but it kept falling out.😱 I'm now going to attempt sweat soldering (I think that's what it's called)... melt some solder near the join, then wrap the coils and torch again. Hopefully, that'll work. 🤞. Thanks again. You're an awesome instructor! I'll let you know tomorrow how it went.😊

@@GomeowCreations By cutting a piece of wire solder the size of a pin head or smaller, I managed to complete the 2nd ring with minimal exposure of silver on the copper coil. The 1st one became a disaster and I tried to hide it with a fine silver coil on top of the copper coil after filing away the excess solder. That 1st one will serve as a reminder of what NOT to do! I think I was overly ambitious. 😂 LOL! I'm gonna keep practicing. Thanks so much for your help! 🙂

That would depend on the finish you're looking to get. Normally when I patina a piece I don't polish it before adding the patina but I will use a polishing wheel on some parts after that or even a wire wheel to bring back some of the color from the metals. It all depends on how you want it to look. 😀

+Brittney Rhodes Yes you will need to pickle it ofter you solder it. It will take all the fire scale off the metal and it will be ready to be polished. If you have any more questions feel free to ask.

RAD! I just did not see you do it in the video after the solder. You went into buffing. Any chance you do any electroforming?

I have tried making a cheap DIY set up for electroforming but had a lot of problems making it work right. I was able to make some cool looking effects happen to a skull ring I made. Check out my instagrame @gomeowcreation to see it. =)

At what time stamp in the video?

@@GomeowCreations 4:30?

That was just water. You can quench your work to cool down in water. But to clean your work you're going to need something called pickle which is an acid. Here's a full video about it. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1mPAXsKXb1Q.html

@@GomeowCreations thank you so much!!

+Crissy C Thank you for your comment and for watching :)

You can try it but I have never had copper solder stay copper looking, it always turns silver. 😅

Yes, make sure you lacquer it be for putting a wax on it, if you do it the other way around the lacquer will not stick. You also don't have to use the wax if you have a lacquer on it, it's just extra. Yes all 12ga wire should be the same but I work more in mm and not gauge. Like now that I make my own wire I just use the mm and never even thing of what gauge it is. 😁👍

Thank you, and if you don't seal it it will tarnish over time and it can turn your finger colors if you don't keep the inside clean.

On some of my silver in the past I would use a lacquer but now I just polish and wax it and call it a day 😄👍

Yes

Welcome!

+Renee Duran This would be the best setup of solders www.riogrande.com/product/silver-sheet-solder-assortment/101199 This is the solder I use for everything now :) This can also be used: Bernzomatic PC3 Copper-Phosphorous Brazing/Welding Rods, 3-Piece www.amazon.com/dp/B000GAV83M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_6jckAbWZ28NRA Whatever you use make sure you use some good high temp flux. www.riogrande.com/product/handy-flux-for-soldering-and-annealing/504086gp

You need to use jewelry solder not the electric stuff. I have a video coming out at 8am PST that you might find very helpful when it comes to solder.

@@GomeowCreations thank You! I will be sure to check it out once posted. I am currently just starting out on this journey and I will be soldering copper to practice. Don't want to be wasting gold and silver! Looking forward to Your video! 😁

That is smart. I do use silver in the new video but you can do everything I show using copper or brass instead.

@@GomeowCreations Fabulous! Peace Brother ☆

Sparex no.2 is what I use as my pickling solution and it clean my metals. I'm pretty sure that it removes firescale unless I'm calling it by the wrong wording. Also I can't change anything in a video after it has been uploaded and I updated this 3years ago. 😅

Oh dear, yes, that makes sense (the changing a video thing). Firescale and oxidation are different, maybe that's what happened. Firescale MUST be sanded/ ground off to be removed, it's IN the metal below the surface as well. Pickling won't get it. I am so much a supporter of what you do and I am also not an expert but I know how a lot of people that are learning need good accurate info. When the day comes that I (might) make some videos, I have to hold myself to the same scrutiny, for sure. You have taught me much, and I am so very grateful for the time and care and attention you share with your viewers, AND your willingness to share what you know. Thank you again. You are very generous, and I hope the companies that sponsor you/ your videos, share tools with you as you are a real help to learning how to use these tools.

You can wrap some thin wire around the ring, then I added a small amount of solder on the inside of the ring. Once the solder flaws it will keep the thin wire on the ring. I hope that helps, if not I will try to better explain it. =)

Yes it is.

+Cody Vanhouten I would be more then happy to make you a video on how I did that, that is if you would like me to. =)

Hard silver solder

Yeah but it only really helps when storing it. You would want a clear coat of some kind of you want to seal it.

This is hard solder, what problems are your having?

@@GomeowCreations solder doesn't want to run. Literally it doesn't stick (solder) pieces with ring :(

Are you using flux?

@@GomeowCreations yes. I tried again and actually managed!!! Tnx a lot for your video!

Awesome 😊👍