That's probably how the pronunciation was lost. People were so afraid to say it that they didn't teach anyone how to say it, and then the only people who knew were killed by the Romans or something
@@mrcombustiblelemon2902 IDK but it always irritates me when people say that in response to someone saying "god" it's like "Do you even understand your own religion?" The answer is usually no because Christianity is far too often just used as an excuse to be terrible people because of their _supposedly_ benevolent god (I say supposedly because said god ruined the lives and/or killed thousands of random Egyptians when Ramses was the target and an _all-knowing god_ (which according to Christianity, is a trait that Abraham's god has) would know Ramses would never repent) Also they can't even comprehend that their god is non-binary, being entirely transcendent of gender and keep using "he" and "father"...
@@mattwo7 They use male pronouns because Yahweh created Adam in his image and likeness, which was the first man. While Eve was created from a rib of Adam instead being modeled after God directly. As for Christians, they have it easier as according to their doctrine God made himself a human man in the form of Jesus, so they have an even better excuse as for why refer to God in male pronouns.
@@RarutoUchiha2 "Yahweh created Adam in his image and likeness, which was the first man" Basing something on another thing does not imply a one to one correlation. Besides, Abraham's god is supposed to be transcendent of the physical plane to begin with so how does it have a "image and likeness" to begin with? It's literally just a powerful spirit. The more you think about the bible, the less it makes sense, religion really relies too much on blind faith. "God made himself a human man in the form of Jesus" According to Christianity, Abraham's god is supposed to be omnipresent and thus everyone and everything so Jesus isn't even special in that regard, so this also makes no sense. This religion contradicts itself in so many ways, it's absurd.
Ash got super powers after he was incaved in stone between mew and mewtwo and was brought back to life with the tears of clones from mewtwo. So Ash might be a god. Ive seen Ash take about 100 different Pokemon moves Remember how he trained Riolu and Rockruff. He was the opponent.
@@kadachinova5302 pokemon company and gamefreak: ar-se-oos sounds like "arse" we're gonna change the international pronunciation some Brits: HAHAHAHA!!! Arse-ee-oos LOL!!!
@@dubbingsync well, you guys do you. It sounds ok for some, and some are grammar nazis. As gnoggin says. If the idea gets across, and the context is as intended, its alright. The pokemon company is just concerned with the way parents will hear if thier kids say it. I mean, non-pokefan/non-gamer parents slammed jynx, blaziken, brock and probably sun and moon’s passimian episode (if it did air) outside of japan, and their target audience is still kids. They will get in trouble for being culturally insensitive and if their kids say it, so they changed it for the english localizers. They’re just trying to be cautious. Damn soccer moms/Karens.
The way different languages pronounce the same word fascinates me.. for example I'm Mexican and in spanish there's a rule in grammar that says that if a c is before an e it always sounds soft so my way to pronounce it is ar-sé-us and because of that it made me think that it was based on the Greek god Zeus
The same with portuguese here. Ce and Ci are pronounced with the [s] sound. Ca, Co, Cu with the [k] sound. To have the [k] sound before the sounds of the letter 'e' and 'i' we need to use the "qu" digraph. "Que, Qui"
I'd pronounce it arceus also, you forgot to mention that the Japanese version of the RKS System ability is called "AR or "AR Shisutemu", so the RKS theory only applies to the english, not the Japanese
Gonna clear this up: Jews do not say “Yahweh”. The vowels when seen in text is ignored and we say “Adonai” in its place, which is how we say God in hebrew. Jews do not say Yahweh.
Ahrk-ay-us. The beginning also fits with "arcane" which can also mean old and unknowable, not just magical. Which I believe is fitting for a god pokemon
9:40 God: "you have NO IDEA how many times similarly hilarious phrases have been made. You humans are sources of infinite humour for one as omniscient as I."
But Arceus is older than time Arceus is Archaic But a 'c' followed by an 'e' is an 's' sound But Arceus has ''Arc''s around its body All 3 of those are valid. All 3 of those are different. (1&3 are similar)
Something that I feel was failed to mention: the RKS System ability doesn't really confirm it's the intended pronunciation, it also has a Japanese name (like Arceus) which is just "AR System" ＡＲシステム
I have to imagine that Arceus' name is controversial in universe as well. Based on region, sect and even your personality (punks, especially from Galar probably use Arse-see-us)
That word would be referred to as a homograph or a heteronym/heterophone-words that are spelled the same, but pronounced differently based on context e.g. "one minute" vs "a minute trace".
Yeah driving me literally insane. Never have I watched something so nitpicky about pronunciation, yet somehow he has managed to pronounce a common word so so wrong. I’ve never heard someone say it that way lol
I know MandJTV pronounces it as "Are-Coos". I personally just say "Are-Key-Us" or "Are-Key-Is" and the last syllable is just based on my mood and vocal inflection.
It has to be a soft c. 1. We don't know the origins for the name 'Arceus'. All info we have is fan-sourced. We never got any confirmation about any of the words. So the connection with Arch/Archeous is just a likelyhood, not a fact. It could be derived from Arcesius, Zeus son, the king of Ithaca. 2. Arceus original name in JP is spelled アルセウス ARUSEUSU. Pay attention to the セ - it can *only* be pronounced as se/ce. If they wanted it to have a hard 'k' they would use ケ instead and it would be written アルケウス ARUKEUSU. 3. In most international material the pronunciation is either the soft C (Spanish/French) or the common TS (German/Italian). 4. The unwanted connection with arse/arses is a really good explanation why the shift from /s/ to /k/.
Idk if I just haven’t noticed it before or if it’s a new thing you’ve been doing, but the way you just ride with the chaos of yourself being on set and adding in the sound effects and animations is my new favorite thing.
So you're assuming that Japanese people pronounce the C as English speakers do? Cesare is how you write Caesar, the Roman emperor but Italians pronounce that "C" in a different way than English speakers would do. The word "Arkè" that is mentioned in the video can also be written as "Archè" but pronounced in the same way so the discrepancy still remains
@@Bluhbear well, even if it wasn't a joke it's still ironic and made me laugh. I enjoy this channel's content enough that I can give him the benefit of the doubt on this one
Non-game-related media says "AR-see-oos". This is evident in Detective Pikachu, as Pikachu himself invokes Arceus as we might say "Oh my God". Game-related media says "ARK-ee-oos", such as in the case of Silvally's RKS System ability. Use either. Game Freak doesn't much seem to care.
I just call Arceus: “Mother”, “Mama”, “Ma”, “Mum”, “Llama Mama”, “Llama God” I know Arceus’ gender is ambiguous and most like to refer to them as a male and a father since they usually get compared to the Abrahamic/Monotheistic God by Pokémon fans in general, but personally they feel like a mother-figure to me. It’s kinda weird, but it gives me comfort.
I used the IPA chart to figure out a pronunciation for myself: “ar-Chay-oos” I did this because 1) c is the symbol of the voiceless palatal plosive 2) e is the symbol of the close-mid front unrounded vowel 3) u is the symbol of the close back rounded vowel
@@Dante1920 i pronounce it ko-lo-quial, and i looked it up and that's how google says it too, i mean, it's spelt collo, not callie or something so idk how the hell you get the double ee or a sounds there
Well Arceus can become any single type and master any single thing, so why don't we just agree that its name can be pronounced in any one way that people choose for themselves? Why can't every iteration of Arceus be the correct and one true iteration of the name???
I used to watch MandJTV, but that’s a little off. Unfortunately no official sources (to my knowledge) actually call it Arkoos. It would be more correct to say Key-Ogree instead of Kyogre and Groo-Don instead of Groudon because of that one bit in Pokemon (I think the pokerap) when they mispronounced it. Ngl it’s pretty annoying (but kinda funny) people _un-ironically_ say it.
@@alibaba3568 Afaik even though "o" is pronounced differently depending on whether the stress falls, the pronunciation is still pretty predictable if you know the rules as stress is always marked and stuff - although it might change with different accents and there might be some exceptions to the rules. But even with exceptions - pronouncing words based on how they're written in Russian is way more predictable than in English - case in point: this video.
The katakana for Arceus is アルセウス (A-RU-SE-U-SU) so I'm sticking with AR-say-us. If it was supposed to be Ar-kay-us or something similar I would imagine the katakana to be アルケウス instead.
@@NaomiAlicia4242564 Dude, if we had ONE pronunciation, the anime wouldn't go with the soft "c" and ugly "eu" way. And it gets me mad, because I hadn't taken Latin courses yet, but when I saw the end in -us, I immediately thought "oh, this is the god of Pokémon, it ends like a latin word, guess it's pronounced Arkéus. Neat." And the ANIME didn't get it. Latin language did NOT win. I think the Portuguese and maybe Spanish have one and only one pronunciation, though. Kind of... Now I'm doubting.
I usually say "Ar-Kay-Us" as well. Though I was very confused back when it came out thanks to an Episode of "House" wherein he (House) makes a Pokemon reference by mentioning "Ar-see-us" as well as the announcer on Battle Revolution.
Well, from the beginning (before the movie) I thought the name was clearly inspired by the god Zeus. So I pronounced it Ar-ceus . The funny part is that in german you pronounce the "eu" in Zeus not like a double o ("soos"), but rather like an "oy" (and with a harsh sounding Z). But there is an c instead of an z, so my pronounciation ended up being more softly 😁
Welcome to the list of ways to pronounce Arceus! R-See-us, R-Key-us, R-Say-us, R-K-Us, R-K-S, Air-Kay-S, Air-See-Us, Air-Say-Us, Ar-Seus, Ark-E-Us, Ark-A-Us, Ark-E-Iss, R-C-iss, R-Say-iss, Ark-see-us, Ark-Ze-us, Ark-Say-us, Ark-See-S, Ark-Say-S, Ark-Zeus, Ark-us, Ar-koos, & now Ar-soys. There are probably a lot more than these 23 Ways to say it. I suspect that there are probably at least 60 Canon Ways to say Arceus.
As someone who played battle revolution and never really watched any of the films, while also having been an easily amused British kid at the time: "Arse-ee-us"
I think it was the official sinnoh guidebook that stated the arse-ee-oos pronounciation being released soon after or with the DP games, then changed as you said.
I have an official product pokemon encyclopedia and it has the pronunciations of all the legendaries until gen 6 and it says that Arceus is pronounced (AR-kee-is)
