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After months of silence, now the announcements are flying all over the place! Today we take a look at the Angel hero announcement for the NeXt Evolution wave. I think Angel is one of the least interesting mutants around and I wonder if he can even be interesting. Is this the devs greatest challenge yet?
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@CoryLovec14
@CoryLovec14 Год назад
Best in the business is back! Glad to see Josh on my feed more again. I agree with pretty much everything you said. But for some reason, I am more excited for Angel than perhaps any other upcoming hero. Maybe it’s just the sole fact that I’ll get the aerial cards out of the box a little more. But I do enjoy the puzzle of the form flippers and my early thoughts are that I think he may end up in the top couple form changers for me. I really think the extra card draw and ping damage will be exceptionally useful and maybe we are undervaluing. Angel effective hand size of 7 (with card draw back), Archangel with “free” - ~2-4 damage. The both seem very reliable too given the number of aerial cards available. I also enjoy the puzzle of the extra threat on Archangel. It’s enough to think about and matter and may end up being a Starlord situation where I push it and end up losing some games because of it. That being said - even with a goal of using both forms each turn if possible for the bonus, this should be ending in Archangel form every ~3 turns (with morphogenesis, perhaps occasional alter ego). And I am thinking (and hoping) that ~1/3 of a threat per turn in solo isn’t all that important except certain scenarios (maybe Ultron 1st main) or perhaps protection which is a little harder to thwart, though that 2 scheme of Angel will probably be the main activation. The only thing Angel makes me sad about are mechanisms that could have worked for Hulk! I wish Hulk was exceptionally strong in Hero form but maybe had a Hazard symbol on his card to dissuade constantly being Hulk form. Thematic in that he’s so uncontrollable, and would really make you want to be Bruce until you need to I think, which just seems appropriate. Good overview Josh
@GetUpandGame
@GetUpandGame Год назад
I think you’re the best in the business! 😆 That was a fantastic overview of your own and I think you’re right. When we see that extra card draw just about every turn and that extra damage just about every turn it’s going to be really powerful in practice. Combine that with the form flipping cards which are all really good and you’ve got a lot going on I had already come around on him more between the announcement and the filming of this video, and the more I hear and talk about him in the comments (especially your comment) I’m pretty much all the way in. Now I kinda want to do this video again 😂😅
@brandtsanderson4665
@brandtsanderson4665 Год назад
I agree the defense card is not great but it is aerial so it will draw a card/deal 1 targeted damage after played so it’s better than on its surface level.
@GetUpandGame
@GetUpandGame Год назад
That’s true! At least it’s a way to make use of his powers in the villain phase 👍👍
@nickwulf1621
@nickwulf1621 Год назад
It looks s stronger than defiance. This affects all cards for the attack, useful for those villains that get more than one.
@GetUpandGame
@GetUpandGame Год назад
@@nickwulf1621 oh that’s a very good point! I still hadn’t noticed that til you pointed it out lol. Thanks!
@salsatheone
@salsatheone Год назад
Hey Josh is back!! And right the next day after the new expansion "unboxing".
@GetUpandGame
@GetUpandGame Год назад
Hey Salsa! Yeah that stuff looked awesome! I’m not gonna have time to make a video about it but that got me even more excited for the next box. It’s looking really really good
@SteveLEKORodrigue
@SteveLEKORodrigue Год назад
Aerial Agility: against some villains, cancelling boost effects/icons can be huge! In particular in Expert or Standard II, don't you think?
@GetUpandGame
@GetUpandGame Год назад
For sure! I was a little disappointed in the effect at first but I’ve come around. Compared to canceling the whole attack or getting a tough on the other side it felt weak compared to many other defense events, but it’s certainly going to be helpful. I overlooked the fact that it cancels the effects of ALL boost cards so very helpful against villains like Klaw Venom Thanos that tend to get multiple boosts. And it triggers his abilities during the villain phase which is another element of the card I missed for a while. So yeah it’s pretty good!
@mitchschroeder1151
@mitchschroeder1151 Год назад
In solo, I see Arch Angel as a game ender. Spend a few turns building while keeping threat down, then flip to Arch Angel and bypass a villain’s second stage in a single turn, ending the game before that acceleration icon matters. The acceleration token is too brutal otherwise. I can see Angel being useful in beating tough enemies like Loki, but get totally stomped by Rhino 😂
@GetUpandGame
@GetUpandGame Год назад
That’s a really good way to put it! And yeah I’m a little nervous about low threat threshold schemes for sure lol
@ragnotgreymane
@ragnotgreymane Год назад
Another great video. Angel looks cool. I can’t wait to ge try hands on him
@GetUpandGame
@GetUpandGame Год назад
Thanks! Yeah he looks good, and the more I’ve chatted with people down here the more excited I’m getting!
@VillainTheory
@VillainTheory Год назад
I was the same somewhat; I wasn't excited for Archangel. But, upon reading the preview article, I was quickly sold. I think he looks great! I actually think he is like Ant-Man but for different reasons - you are going to want to swap forms every turn to try and benefit from both hero abilities every single turn. Archangel's acceleration token definitely comes with some risk, but in most scenarios in solo and definitely in 2-4 player, I think it's more than worth it. The extra damage is going to be enormous. I also think his defense card is excellent. At a glance, in Angel form, sure - it's just a more expensive Defiance. In Archangel form, I think it's really good as it is. But with their hero abilities' factored in? They're incredible. Angel/Archangel's hero abilities trigger once per phase, meaning that if you use them in the villain phase, you can use them again in the upcoming hero phase. What this means is that, for Angel, it's effectively a 0-cost card that helps you deck-cycle. And, in Archangel, you're not only blocking an entire attack but dealing 2 damage (1 via Retaliate, and 1 you can put anywhere). While some of his events look straightforward, I think the fun will come from trying to use the right ones in the right form while triggering his abilities. A bit like how Nova and Ms Marvel have extremely simple attack/thwart events but get huge layers of depth from their identity and other cards. Nice review! I'm so excited for the X-Force.
@GetUpandGame
@GetUpandGame Год назад
Thanks Villain! Yeah the more I’m talking with people down here the more I’m still coming around on Angel. He was already growing on me before I made this video and he’s grown on me even more as people point out things I overlooked! For example I totally missed that you could trigger his abilities on the villain phase until it was mentioned down in the comments so thank you for that! At this point I feel like I just need to make another video about him since I missed so much stuff and am way more excited than I was lol
@VillainTheory
@VillainTheory Год назад
Ah I should have read the other comments! Either way, it's cool to hear you're getting more excited for Angel. Now to wait for his release...
@GetUpandGame
@GetUpandGame Год назад
@@VillainTheory oh I wasn’t saying that, I just mean you all are getting me a lot more excited! 😁
@VillainTheory
@VillainTheory Год назад
Just you wait! Angel will be your most-anticipated hero at this rate! 😁 I can't remember if it was mentioned but he's going to be really good with the form-changing cards too like Lay Down the Law too. And on the topic of triggering hero abilities in the villain phase, I think Warpath will be great for that. Probably with Ever Vigilant!
@GetUpandGame
@GetUpandGame Год назад
@@VillainTheory haha you know, he’s getting there. I’m actually scripting a video in my head that I really hope I have time to make to show off all the cool interactions with aerial and flipping cards and his abilities. I’ve never had this big of a turnaround from an initial impression before and it needs to be explored more!
@theblackdog2865
@theblackdog2865 Год назад
Thanks for the breakdown!!! I have such a hard time wrapping my head around a character and new cards until I have them in hand. This helps a ton.
@GetUpandGame
@GetUpandGame Год назад
Hey buddy, glad to hear it’s helpful! 😄 Thanks!
@guarism0
@guarism0 Год назад
Great review! 👍🏻 Now just thinking that, with a bit of luck, you can get Render Medical Aid out for Wolverine and later he might be able to use Track by Scent to heal 5 and draw 2, could really be a life safer and turn the game around completely 🤔
@GetUpandGame
@GetUpandGame Год назад
Thanks! That is an absolutely fantastic place to put that side scheme!!
@JannPoo
@JannPoo Год назад
I just realized that you could technically troll your friends by using Aerial Intervention to nerf their attacks against the villain or minions.
@GetUpandGame
@GetUpandGame Год назад
🤣🤣🤣 Next round of errata: “Aerial Intervention should read: When a FRIENDLY character would take any amount of damage….. “ 😆
@Grognard-Solo-Gaming
@Grognard-Solo-Gaming Год назад
Great video! 👍👏😁 Hadn’t checked Angel out whatsoever, so this was news to me 😂 I’m not a fan of the character, and though I’ll try playing him eventually, he seems alright but not very inspiring. I’m definitely more interested in the other characters that have been shown. I think the take-a-hit-to-draw-3 can be good for Miles, because the villain is probably stunned, and then gets stunned again from the 3 new cards 😂
@GetUpandGame
@GetUpandGame Год назад
Thanks! Sounds like we have very similar feelings on both him as a character and as a hero. I think he’ll be effective, but not likely a favorite. I could be wrong though. He seems very much like one you have to play to appreciate, and the cards we haven’t seen could be really cool. So I’m still excited to get my hands on him! That’s a great shout for Miles. I already love playing him in protection and that gives him even more stun with Thwip Thwip. That’s gonna be awesome!
@idjester
@idjester Год назад
sorry bud.... but I think your wrong... how many turns do you think you are actually going to go into angle form and then into arch-angle form and then be able to switch out of arch-angle... from what I see there is only 3 cards that do that... so maybe 3 times through your deck... that is assuming that you get 1 (and only one) of those cards in your hand, and you don't muligan any of them... so my guess is maybe 2.5 times per run through your deck and with an average of 6.7845 turns through an average 40 card deck that means your maybe able to switch into and out of arch-angle 1/3 of the time or about every 2.7856 turns... so your hoping to be able to do this once every 3 turns isn't really a viable option...(yes its math time again boys and girls, time to buckle up)...,. so you better just lean to be in arch-angle form some of the time and deal with it... OR you will end up hating this hero... just saying...
@GetUpandGame
@GetUpandGame Год назад
Haha oh for sure. Impressive breakdown! I was more meaning to say that would be the ideal situation, but yeah you’re gonna eat that extra threat fairly occasionally. And maybe it’s not that big of a deal, but it’ll be nice to avoid when you can!
@ChrisMaka
@ChrisMaka Год назад
So for the team-up card, you can't play it while you're in Archangel form, right? I suppose it makes thematic sense, but adding another hurdle to a team up card seems not ideal. I like the *idea* of the team-ups, but in solo, they usually just don't have a chance to fire off.
@guarism0
@guarism0 Год назад
That's right, doesn't work in Archangel form. I had a great time playing Team-up cards in both solo and two handed, my favorite is Fastball Special, Beauty and the Thief is very good for 2 resources.
@GetUpandGame
@GetUpandGame Год назад
Yep as Guarism0 says it’s Angel only. Which I actually didn’t realize until I was editing this so I was sad I didn’t mention it in the video. And you’re right that’s just one more thing making it less appealing, though in this (very rare) case I’m still going to give it a shot in solo because the benefits are pretty stellar. Imagine using Avian Anatomy to help pay for Soaring Hearts, returning an aerial card from your discard pile AND returning Soaring Hearts AND drawing a card AND readying Angel and Psylocke. That’s gonna be pretty incredible when it works
@ChrisMaka
@ChrisMaka Год назад
@@GetUpandGame Yeah, with the ability to keep out Psylocke almost indefinitely, it becomes a lot easier to hit that team-up. Voltron Psylocke is going to be crazy good.
@GetUpandGame
@GetUpandGame Год назад
@@ChrisMaka yeah that’s gonna be so good! And that’s an excellent point about being able to keep her out 👍👍
@TheCBliss
@TheCBliss Год назад
Are there any reviews out there for Marvel Champions for multiplayer games? I don't play this game solo, so while this youtube channel provides some good info, their perspective of good cards and heroes is biased for solo play.
@GetUpandGame
@GetUpandGame Год назад
Yeah unfortunately I can only speak from my own experience which is 99% solo. And many of the other channels are in a similar boat. Here are a few places you might look around to find a more balanced approach! Marvel Champions Monthly youtube.com/@MCM_Podcast Critical Encounters ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VRDexkJFI44.html Step Into The Portal youtube.com/@StepintoThePortal
@jonathanpickles2946
@jonathanpickles2946 Год назад
I've close to zero interest in any of the characters a priori so this one is no different. I think you hugely overstate the problems in staying in Archangel - one threat is just one threat. You need to switch to clear it but that just provides dynamic play so far more the fun Antman than the terrible tedious Wasp. I worry that he will put a cap on the power level of Arial events as he gets so much better use out of them than than anyone else but that's probably paranoia. I agree is defence event is the weak spot. It's good in Archangel especially multiplayer but you either need to draw into it or effectively pay a premium by holding on to it. Still his other cards are pretty efficient with his arial bonuses and other arial cards look pretty good with his buffs. (Oh Nova does not have printed Arial but gets it in set up so close enough to be a very consistent dive bomber). Psyclocke readies Archangel not Angel while the team up is only Angel so no (easy) quad ready :( Taunt looks awful to me - it's worse than Porker's version and I rarely find that worth playing. I wonder if it might be good with Venom to play Grasping Tendrils early and also draw 4th card? Venom is powerful enough not to really care. The side scheme feels good to me - low opportunity cost and spreading the heal to key allies like Psylocke maybe?
@GetUpandGame
@GetUpandGame Год назад
Well said as always! You’re probably right that I’m overstating the extra threat (and is why I was careful to hedge a little lol by saying maybe in practice it isn’t a big deal), but for my play style that heavily favors control over damage the benefits offered by Archangel aren’t as interesting to me anyways so I’m not too willing to give the villain the extra threat. Still, as long as it’s not too low of a main scheme it shouldn’t be anything that Angel can’t readily handle Sad about words about Wasp but at this point I’ve done all I can for her 😆 I’m very surprised to hear you don’t use Petulant Pig. Again maybe it’s a play style thing but I absolutely love that card and pretty much always play it. That being said Taunt is strictly worse, but I do think it’ll have some really fun applications in the right places. No where near an auto include for most heroes though
@bha1959
@bha1959 Год назад
Ugh I HATE these ant-man/Wasp-y card foldy characters... how the heck am I supposed to sleeve and store these in a way that fits with all my other cards???
@GetUpandGame
@GetUpandGame Год назад
A lot of people use these! www.etsy.com/listing/669261778/custom-transformers-tcg-sliding-combiner So maybe something like this could be helpful for you 😊 It won’t fit exactly like the other cards but at least they’re sleeved. I’ll say for myself I just don’t sleeve Ant Man or Wasp, and Wasp is one of my most played heroes and the card is still in good shape. But I also understand the desire to sleeve everything 🙂
@bha1959
@bha1959 Год назад
@@GetUpandGame I'll give them a shot, thanks for the recommendation!
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