I’ve Never Felt Sexual Desire for My Husband 

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@@isabella6075You belong to the sewers isabella, quit commenting and go back to being a bitter fatherless astrology girl. If you want a man, which you do, hence why you’re so bitter, then you need to quit being a sexist pig online and become the woman a man actually wants. Otherwise you’ll die alone with your cats and with zero friends.

@@isabella6075You’re beyond gross isabella. Not just in appearance, but also in personality

​@isabella6075 *one of the kinds of women.

And she's the kind of person most men get stuck with because they're all deceptive and insidious. Bait and switch.

Absolutely. Take the hit and move on.

This is true but an inaccurate characterization of this situation and this woman. It's apparent that most commenters here haven't been in a long term relationship for over a decade because news flash. Her situation is way way more common than people think. Every couple I've ever known has gone through it including myself. Difference being that people generally get passed it having at least as much good sex as they have bad. Despite internet users applying unrealistic and inexperienced context to everything, this woman represented herself VERY well by expressing that she sees the value in her marriage and her family and that she's not even considering leaving it. The extremes in her case of 30 years have more to do with playing catchup to an oversexualized culture that isn't her own. If not for that she'd have had the conversation with him a long time ago instead of imagining some hypothetical pleasure that's too difficult to obtain. Imagine as a man having to play out some novel every time you have sex with your wife.

@@ONETimothy2.12-14relationship dynamics change overtime. Can’t expect a spouse to fk you at age 25 the same at age 45.

@@openranks4519 I would agree. Was there some disagreement with my comment?

Classic Chad widow case. Once she got the dopamine ups and downs by the fboys, there is no return. Also shows how much neurotypical women hate neurodivergent men like on autism and ADHD spectrum.

That part

Have you told the partner this? They deserve to know

For me, being physically attracted to someone isn't about their physical appearance. It's about their heart and soul, how they treat me and make me feel.

@@mightymouse1005and you wouldn’t be shallow if you did care about appearance.

You were cheating… I know y’all’s code . You ain’t fooling anything

Asexual for sure

Duh!!

@@Gloriagal78a sexual for sure? Says who? This woman said she’s Not sexually attracted to her husband, she NEVER said she wasn’t sexually attracted to other men

Maybe

​@Gloriagal78 nah she just doesn't want to tale accountability for lying to her husband to preserve her cushy life

Good luck😂

@@cal.712 modern day women are like this...

@@Ralph_Kreutzberger-Blumenfeld He's lucky she didn't cheat

Losing attraction to someone is not a crime or a bad thing. If you have a small one or you gain weight, chances are your wife won't be as attracted.

If he was satisfying her in bed she would clearly be more attracted. He's clearly not so this falls on him.

@@Austenfan177you think she's not gonna take half of everything when she can?

Perfectly said👍🏾

No, it's about her losing her easy life. It's about her having to go out into the world without his support. She's a lazy gold digger.

@@jayviktor6130bingo

Classic Chad widow case. Once she got the dopamine ups and downs by the fboys, there is no return. Also shows how much neurotypical women hate neurodivergent men like on autism and ADHD spectrum.

I truly think that many marriage have been built on a farce because of societal norms. I mean, we’re basically just now figuring out that asexuality is real. And women have only had the right to their own bank account for slightly over a generation and the norms are just now catching up. Marriage has been “checking a box” for people for a very very long time

Its actually insane to me how many people irl ive met and they told me being attracted to the person isnt necessary for successful relationships. Im glad to hear you say this.

Me too. It's amazing to hear women say that they never really loved him.

Arranged marriages....

Most people throughout human history didn't get married for "love." It was just something you did because it was expected of you to be a proper "man" or "woman" in society.

even now she can't be honest

It's really difficult to know these answers when your sexual orientation is different than the mainstream. Because everybody tells you that you WILL fall in love with the opposite gender and enjoy sex with them. I don't know if she's gay or asexual, but there's something going on that she doesn't have the words for.

Gaurantee she was promiscuous when she was younger and he was The Back-up Plan

At least she didn't cheat. That's the go to cure for unhappy women.

​@@quietestkittenEither that, or the guy has a ton of money. She just wants a comfortable life. It's really hard to know, because she is dishonest.

Society has convinced some women that looks don't matter when they do matter a lot.

Women aren't as picky with looks compared to men though.

​@@Gabster1990incorrect. Women are more picky on looks. Only 20% of men are attractive to women.

People that are guided by feel-feels are destined to be alone. 🤷🤷🤷

​@Zwird looks aren't everything and sometimes attraction doesn't come from just physical appearance. However, looks can be a turn off as well.

Imagine how SHE feels going through with sex to someone she’s not into?!

She basically said she doesn’t like him & we don’t know why. There’s more to this than

@oambitiousone7100 If she didn't want to have sex with him she probably shouldn't have married him.

@@oambitiousone7100 why would she have sex with him if she wasn’t physically interested in him? Why did she marry him? This is on her.

@@l-train7876 she was attracted when they were first together. Also, we don’t know her background. Maybe nobody looked twice at her and she figured he was the best option. Maybe they raised kids together and she stuck around to make sure that job was done. You all act like she strung him along to torture him. Rather she tortured herself.

..sucks…yeah, he should have left years ago…my only regret with my own divorce, was not doing it sooner, nothing can make up for lost time…and u will never talk someone into being sexually attracted to u…

I mean, so many times people say looks and attraction is superficial. That it's not important. It's very common in arranged marriages.

I don't know about that. If she didn't lie, I'd say she's also confused about what this roadmap to her own happiness is. Maybe she came from a home that bottles that stuff up. In another words, she doesn't even know because she was never taught to ponder it. She just accepted that she's a wife and she needs to do A B and C, but these A B and Cs aren't fulfilling for her. And I think her hubby is also, as she said, a little ADHD-ish, maybe a little dense when it comes to reading her feelings correctly. Men aren't built to decipher women's wants and needs automatically. I'm sure when she lacks desire for him, there are signs that he's missed, which in turn builds that resentment even more. But I'm also perplexed as to why her counseling didn't work. A lot of that is geared towards discovering yourself, who you are, your past, what you desires are, etc. So, some things don't add up if she said she tried everything and they didn't work. The only thing left is she's wired as a asexual who just doesn't like intimacy. The longer we hear the call the more question marks for all, that's for sure.

And the thing is, he may say that he's out. He may say that he's wasted 30 years of his life and he doesn't want to anymore. What I thought was really unfair of John to do is sit there and say that she needs to give him a road map to her heart. What's he going to think of that? Oh boy, you've lied to me for 3 decades. Every romantic thing I thought we had has been fraudulent. And now I have to follow a road map to your heart?! WTF! This chick stole 3 decades of his life when he was at his prime that he can't get back. He may not want to waste another second of it.

@DudeTastic13 I've seen myself itbhas nothing to do with the man. Thr ma. Can do everything to gmhelp women like this but no amount of help will change a narcissist who doesn't want to change women like this don't realize or care how their actions negatively effect others so wen u have a woman like this is time to run ur sanity will depend on it.

She's asexual, but aromantic.

Not necessarily a problem. Some people just ain't got it. Only a problem if you lie about it or refuse to accept it.

@@frfr202 It’s a deeper problem for their relationship and her. Not a problem as in “bad”. She is probably asexual and beating herself up for it and making herself do things she doesn’t want to do. That can be traumatic.

@@Mirro6112 facts

She will be extremely sexual once she matches with 6,4ft Chad instantly :) just like all women

True. Without physical, it's not a romantic relationship, period.

Exactly, your just friends. I like how she said hes her "best friend". You know what best friends dont do? Lie and gaslight you into destroying yourself.

An honest woman with a brain !

Physical is a massive part of you determining that youre attracted (or not) to someone. Absolutely should not be ignored

@@il-conte , yep with no attraction the person is just a friend!

John just believes in the sanctity of marriage.

Classic Chad widow case. Once she got the dopamine ups and downs by the fboys, there is no return. Also shows how much neurotypical women hate neurodivergent men like on autism and ADHD spectrum.

@@Fitmom312 Are you sure? He told this woman to tell her husband of 30 years that she’s never been attracted to him, doesn’t really like him, and to give him a ‘roadmap’ for how HE needs to fix it. This is HER problem to fix (since she created the problem) and John told her to dump the entire thing on her husband’s lap. That kind of behavior is not going to save that marriage.

He is bluepilled. Two decades with no sexual desire, no love. Means it's dead relationship. There is nothing alive in that relationship. Dude wasted decades of his life for this dusty

@@tbe0116 They do that a lot on these Ramsey channels, they always put the woman's problem on the man. Regardless of whether the man had any input in her bad decisions or not. There is no fixing this situation, if she was never attracted to him there is no cure for that. No amount of counseling, prayer, spiritual healing or any of that useless crap will magically solve this.

Because as he said, he is ADHD

@@dyoung3648how does that have to do with getting upset at a woman who wasted 30 years of a man’s life?

@@heatherchandler1184you can Google information like that ❤

@@heatherchandler1184and I would encourage you to do so if you want to! To me this woman is traumatised and so is her husband if he senses she isn't attracted to him but stays anyway. Both repeating childhood patterns and would be keen to know more about that story - no one does anything for no reason ❤

EXACTLY! Ive heard of women not finding their husbands "attractive," but NEVER heard of a woman not knowing *why* . Shes trying to preserve her reputation.

No doubt she married her husband for his wallet. This is what happens.

In my opinion she just wants attention and create confusion. She is not serious or genuine, but she is playing a game with Dr Delony. I will suggest that this video is removed from the Podcast because Dr Delony deserves better:)

@@Jaco3688 She couldn't lock down the hot guy to provide for her 28 years ago, so she settled for a guy from her Friend Zone rather than risk being alone.

@@alberttang6955 🤔 A well-worn storyline

Yeah, is she a lesbian? Unless he's both physically and psychologically a monster, I don't see how it's possible that she's never had even a shred of attraction, unless she isn't capable of attraction to men. Honestly this doesn't sound fixable. Either they need to acknowledge that this will just be platonic, or move on to find more compatible partners.

everything, it's never been her story.

Yea one of 3 things, all bad, because she is a liar. She’s not attracted and has lied about it, she’s lesbian and has lied about it, or she’s already cheated and she’s lying about it.

Especially when asked if she would be attracted to a different man she said no. Sounds like a her problem.

@@HoldoncShe was lying about that because it would allude to her cheating. It’s over for buddy.

This is far more common than you think. It's just that people don't want to talk about it. For women, they may like what the man brings to the table. He may be a provider and pay all the bills or even be as far as giving her a life of luxury. She may not like the man, but she may suck it up to have an easier life and lie than struggle. Especially if she is low wage earner and struggles with underemployment. This is a main component of hypergamy. Also for women, a man may constantly pursue her over and over. Just keep pursuing her until she gives in because this is what we teach men to do in that men should chase. She could get to a point where the man loves her, she's not feeling it, then he proposes and she'll feel the pressure to say yes to not disappoint him, especially if it's in public, only to disappoint herself where she felt she couldn't say no. Her family is congratulating her and all kinds of stuff and she just goes along with it. Women can lie a lot about their attractiveness to a man that goes above just faking orgasms. Also for both men and women, sometimes one will just take whatever is there. It may be their only option and they would prefer that than being alone. For both women and men, sometimes religion can play a factor too where they fake their sexuality and take one for the team or else they are committing sin. And there have been many couples who have faked it all the way to the end of their lives all in the name of righteousness.

​@@citrustacovery well said.

She's not a sexual person. Just like I don't like coffee.

I can’t even believe i listen this

yes. it has been pronounced. "i want to do what's right". "i don't want to disappoint him". maybe it's about how religious her family was. or childhood trauma of consequences of you disappointing someone. and lots of other fears. you close up inside yourself and never let anyone in your soul deep enough. you just try to meet the requirements you were once told and expected to and you stick to it. never feeling freedom to find and even think about the real you. you become everything what surrounds you. anything except the real you amd your desires. which you even can't formulate because not let. who ever let her say what *she* wants and needs? in her childhood? has anyone of her parents?anything what she needs, not must do and stick to.

They both played a role. So many people delude themselves.

She doesn't actually care about his feelings. She has no respect for him and that's why she could lie to him for so long

​@@sonderexpeditions What did he do??

@@sonderexpeditions no they didn't. It's ALL ON HER. He asked her about it and she lied to him. He noticed and asked her and she lied. She said it herself. Dont bring the man into this

@@sonderexpeditions He asked her point blank if she was sexually interested in him and she lied to him. She needs to be held accountable for her lies.

The reason why people tell women to date the nice guys is because follow your instinct leads to countless horrible experiences and multiple baby daddies since its easy for women to lose attraction during ppd as well as knowing every single imperfections that you know about them. Now how likely is the guy who got her going not going to care for her and ditch her for another women. Now you have multiple broken homes because of this and can't get anyone married. Marriage was never about love it was all about stable growth of family.

Or, you could encrourage them to give those people a chance, looking at their good qualities above chemical reaction of attraction and have the introspective the and guile to leave if that chance doesn’t spark anything! Not lie for 30 years

Women should take accountability for their actions. It’s possible to date men who treat people well and are attractive. For every story of “settling” for an unattractive nice guy, there are a hundred women who end up single moms because they got knocked up and abandoned by an attractive scumbag. Give nice people a chance and have the guts to say goodbye if the attraction isn’t there. The options aren’t between marrying assholes and marrying platonic bffs.

​@@theprodigalson4003 Nice guys usually lack understanding of how relationships work. They usually have to go through nonsense just to become maturer for a relationship.

As an attractive and smart 36 years old woman I've been single mostly of the time...With every relationship I learned a very valuable lesson: being alone is not as bad as feeling alone while being in a relationship for rational reasons and without true connection and sexual desire. In my late 20ies I felt "left out" because everyone around me was getting married and having kids...now a lot of them are getting divorced and I must admit...I'm somehow happy that I didn't settle down for some random guy just to be a wife and mother.

She could have said that but no because she knew it was gonna be game over but still keep at it, lying

@@thelucariamonarchs4889 yes it seems like she resents him

I agree. Once she really got into the nitty gritty of her feelings towards him, it’s clear she has no respect for him, and that will absolutely affect sexuality. John said it best: “You don’t like him.”

It is possible to like a person very much and not FEEL DESIRE. Lack of desire could be caused by hormones, by childhood trauma, etc. etc.

@@texasdazzlers John did "not say it best" - he was fishing for a reaction. She had said before that she liked him and he provoqued her - it is a way of digging into the truth. Her protest was not very strong but she did not agree. Also: she likely is nervous when calling, so harder to connect to the innermost feelings.

But you have money and security.... She doesn't want to use those things when you go elsewhere... 😂 That's her entire problem.

​@@randybobandy9828absolutely brutal out here.

There is no favour done to him, that's an illusion. She doesn't want the cushy boat her marriage is.

Most men will end up in a dead bed room eventually. They usually turn down the woman who loves them and chase after the one out of his league

@@user-kp3rc4eq8x that’s literally the opposite 💀 men end up in dead bedrooms because women want stability from the man they aren’t attracted to and cheated with the man they are attracted to

That is very true.

THIS!!! It absolutely magnifies

People change every 10 years, this makes no sense, same goes for 30s 40s 50s

20s are peak fertility.

Yes, definitely if you aren’t growing together…

Happy for you brother, and glad you made it out alive! 👊🍻

if this were me, i would sleep around

Peace be with you bro 🙌✌️

​@@gforce97and get diseases?

No you’re not

Has women ever been told to be honest? Just curious.

I've been told this a lot.

​@GameOnShanny Yup and now it's backfiring because women see the light.

​@@cal.712Ask your mom

@@cal.712I’ve been told this plenty of times

Bet when he leaves her, and other women want him … she will feel instantly attracted to him … oh, and of course, when she has to pay her own bills … she will question whether her feelings were worth the gutting of her marriage.

exactly she is a parasite

What she means is I don't want to hurt him because I don't want to deal with the consequences of my husband who wants to be desired finding out I'll never desire him.

@@johnjone965I agree. If the caller is not attracted to her husband, she needs to admit it and accept reality.

We have a winner here, Johnny. Ofcourse it's all about safety. This woman doesn't want to lose her meal ticket. She hates him but she never had the better tree branch to hold herself to. If she had found the better higher branch she would have dropped her husband 20 years ago.

I hate how when men don't find a women attractive, it's taken at face value and the man just gets to move on with his life. When women don't find a man attractive it's analysed like a problem to be solved and the women is vilified. This is why I don't give anyone I don't feel intense sexual attraction for a "chance". I just keep it moving and save everyone time and heartache

This! Allow the man to receive love and admiration from the person who desires him. Be so considerate that you let them free.

Yes, and she stole the prime sexual years of his life that he can't get back.

Exactly

That is the sad part of it. He deserved a woman who really does love him. Something beyond a partnership.

But HE also has a responsibility to sit her down and say what is going on. And to get therapy and take care of himself. He could have left and he stayed in a mom/son relationship. He totally deserves better AND he is also responsible for looking for it.

😂 if this is how she treats her BEST friend I don't even want to imagine what happens to her enemies! ☠☠

Females for ya. 80 percent of the time they're the ones filing for divorce

He probably gained weight or has a small one. She can't help her lack of attraction.

Don't gain weight or have a small one. She can't help that she doesn't find him appealing anymore.

She can't help that she doesn't find him appealing anymore.

Make sure to be attractive to your partner and satisfy them and this won't happen

fake news has become a motto to live by in this twisted modern world.

​@@Zwirdor tell your sisters to stop taking resources from dudes and lying.

Don't live in fear just learn about character traits and pay attention to the signs! She likely hasn't dealt with past trauma and took it out on her husband the past 30 years. She chose to live in a lie and that was likely her comfort zone. I'm sure there's much more to her story, usually is.

She said he knows she isn't attracted to him. She lies to him. I think you would know if someone isn't attracted to you. A lot of these phone calls are similar. People know the truth, they just feel better being lied to.

As a woman. i know that's right. I'm really wondering what's going on with woman because i be wanting it all the time.

But I wonder if your dad ever asked your mom WHY or what she finds attractive

It doesn't matter you could have a great and most awesome sex life and then 5, 10 or 15 years later they just turn off like a light switch but you've got twenty years together and three kids...now what you gonna do...dump her :(

Ask your dad why your mom couldn't orgasm. There's a lot that goes into bringing a woman into an aroused, orgasmic state. What you see in porn ain't it. It's likely not her fault.

Same with men, I can't even be with (permanently) low libido ones because the mismatch in sex drive leaves me feeling undesirable. It took me a lot of time to not be paranoid about them secretly not liking intimacy or certain aspects of it.

Women do this for less than a middle class life too. If they're socialized that they're supposed to get married, and they're told to focus on a man's goodness and ignore attraction because only immoral women care about sex, then this is what it can lead to. This is more common than people think.

@@digthewarmth ok, I’ll give you that. Either way, zero logic to spend 30 years with someone who doesn’t make you happy in all ways

Exactly what I was thinking!

Or sometimes it’s just that people change and fall out of love. Then they’re in it with two kids and a house and realize they’re just repeating the motions. Even harder, sometimes you just don’t know. I’ve heard the saying “You’ll both fall in and out of love with each other over the years. All you can hope is that you don’t both do it at the same time.” That’s normal I think but…where’s the line and who makes it? And of course things are going to annoy you sometimes it would be impossible to spend that much time with someone and that not happen. Life and marriage is messy and complicated. It’s not the fairytale most people go into it thinking it’s going to be.

@@supernova11711 She loves him it is DESIRE that is lacking.

I don't think she's capable. She's asexual as a textbook case.

Not for some neurodivergent people.

Your really not look at f2f relationships bunch of whales or unattractive females the type dudes wouldn’t give the time of day but with girls they have a chance.

Y'all are the ones always saying that BS not us 😂 everytime I tell a girl that looks matter they always say they hardly matter and just be nice and have a good personality 😂 meanwhile when i was less attractive I got treated like dogshit and now that I'm better looking I get treated 20 times better by women now 😂 its women that perpetuate that because you want to act like angels that aren't shallow. But no men denies that looks are very important to them.

Why do y’all keep assuming its purely physical attraction thats the issue when she explicitly states that his adhd and his social incompetence is the reason she feels she doesnt like him. It’s not that she isn’t physically attracted to him, she doesn’t respect him.

@@reggiestockton8166 We don’t say that for the most part.Ugly men tell women we shouldn’t worry about looks so we can deal with them.

@@IAMHERE486 I literally had a conversation with some ladies at work 2 hours ago and that's what they said to me 🤣 stop lying. Ugly men that can't get women are invisible. Nobody cares what they say or think they hold no influence in the dating scene whatsoever. Their complaints fall on deaf ears 🤣 I've only ever heard women say that being nice and having a good personality and being emotionally vulnerable and all that bullshit is attractive and what women truly want 🤣 stop lying

or shows why he doesn't do it for her if he can't pick up on things.

To be fair, he kept asking her and she kept lying to him. It sounds like he does feel it but also doesn't want to believe his wife would lie to his face for 30 years.

​@@brendanconlon8292 you don't even need to ask if you know what it means when a person is sexually attracted to you

She's faithfully doing her duty. He should be grateful that she didn't divorce him and take half of everything.

​@@natashadickson4819Yea but she is also no doubt delusional. She is older now so her sexual market value has no doubt declined, whereas his probably has not. That's the way it works. Aging means different things to men and women in terms of sexual market value. I bet she's no sex object at this point, after 30 years. Go ahead woman, insult him by telling him she has found him sexually repulsive for 30 years. He'll dump her. She'll collect cats and be embittered for the rest of her life.

Glad u had the girl balls to not end yours and your exs life right there

I am in your position right now. I have this stable and healthy relationship going on for 5 years but I feel the same. No attraction, no passion and everything feels superficial with her, but I'm so afraid to move on and make a mistake and lose a wonderful woman. I sometimes feel like there's somethjnf wrong with me and instead of leaving her I should find the solution within...but I don't know if that's true or just another lie that I create to mantain the status quo.

@@gabzsy4924communicate! Have you guys talked about these feelings at all together? I find more often than not people tend to have far more middle ground than they thought

@@gabzsy4924 Gotta cut it lose man. You're wasting time. Sunk-cost fallacy.

@@gabzsy4924 TALK TO HER ABOUT IT.

Very true...what a waste

Idk why people love being victims. All humans have the power of intuition, discernment and free will (not counting cultural/religious duty/madness, cults and imprisonment). I'm sorry i don't feel bad for people who refuse to take control of their lives due to fear of being alone or simple cowardice. Unless shes the greatest actress he knew there was/is estrangement (which she said). And no I'm not absolving her for her lack of honesty. The way i view life is its up to me as an individual to recognize bs and remove myself from it then to wait around for someone to do "right by me". Only for it to be 30years later and a mf still cant do right by you 🙄 no thanks id rather be alone. Truth is most would rather live a lie then accept the simple truth in front of them. No sympathy!!! Man the f up and direct your life accordingly but nope people submit to cultural and societal pressures. That's on you!! Welp that's the result, Congratulations!!!

Right! I know he’s felt the rejection from her and she didn’t have the courage to leave 30 years ago? This makes me so sad for that man. This is heartbreaking for him and trifling of her

@@hell2thennnaw100% agree with you. Also, I’m tired of people acting like many males don’t prefer to live of “deliberate ignorant bliss” when it comes to certain things in their marriage. For many males, as long as they are getting their needs met (even if not as frequent) then they are okay with the rlsp being the way it is.

If she had told him when it started , she’d be accused of being shallow and not committed. She can’t win with anyone here.

Yeah right, she can't miss this chance to create an insane amount of drama.

But the guy feels this. No way he is blind to her behavior. It could be good him to finally talk about it.

I disagree. He should know the truth. The truth shall set him free.

Then she gets to run off and get dog pounded by the whole neighborhood while poor guy tries to put his life back together.

Yeah. Better not to tell now.

She doesn't like him or even love him. She likes the marriage and not being a wife. She likes the lifestyle and not the provider

@@bigcraig79 How did you get “lifestyle” from this? And how did you decide who is the “provider”?

​@@greenAbbot lifestyle means the "idea of being married" if you're not sexually attracted to husband you no longer see them as your husband and you're just stringing them along to fulfill your "perfect marriage" fantasy.

The real victim here is the husband. He's had a pretend wife for 30 years. If you don't see her behavior as psychopathic your insensitive and bias.

​@@greenAbbotBelieve me no woman would support a husband that she is not sexually attracted to. This is a very dumb question.

Thank you!

Is it normal for a man to not be attracted to his wife? Is that ok?

Yes it is. It's normal. ​@@GettinJunkDone

@@My_Secret_ArtSketchbookit’s not normal. It’s common but not normal. Nor is it a good thing for either side.

That's why you need genuine sexual attraction from your spouse /woman /girl

💯 and Jane’s husband was correct when he said you either have it or you don’t. That wasn’t a lashing out or sign of frustration, it was simply reality. If you don’t have that “I’m gonna jump your bones” mentality with someone from the very beginning you will never have a relationship. Merely a friendship, if even that.

Bro you soical like a simp. The majority of women are to be used for or sexual pleasure. It's not that complicated we smash thots to bust the dump them. If you find a decent woman with great qualities then make her your girlfriend. The women who think looks matter are obviously dumb are they ready to be replaced in several years. When a newer better model is out.

Wtf do you mean "fell hard?" Like falling off or falling in love?

@@randybobandy9828 she fell hard *in love*, she started loving me more everyday while I realized “dang.. :/ I guess my feelings aren’t coming back”

@@slowrunn3r88why do you think that happened? I am in a situation where I feel my fiancé isn’t sexually attracted to me, but he loves me for my other qualities such as same values, same interests, I bring him peace, etc. I am way more sexually attracted to him, and it makes me feel insecure. He says he’s never been “all over” any one of his previous girlfriends, so he says it’s not just me. Your thoughts?

Basically

Perfectley stated.

She says they’re “in sync”. She likes him overall but doesn’t like aspects of him, especially the ADHD aspects. I had a super good friend once. We really liked each other, loved each other. He was brilliant and funny but also had his quirks. We later became lovers and I quickly realized I had zero attraction to him as a lover. I really didn’t want to hurt him. So I see how it happens. But I ended the lover relationship pretty quickly.

@@minoozolala except you don't see how it happens, as you didn't marry mr quirks.

@@name9601 You missed my point. I was brave enough to be honest and risk hurting him. I can see how someone else might not be.

That's what's crazy about this to me. After 30 years, she needs to continue faking it and stop the gatekeeping. She made her bed. She needs to lie in it. This is 1000% on her. Quite frankly, I don't care how she feels. She had her chance 30 years ago! She needs to do what he wants sexually at this point. If I were him after this conversation, I would immediately divorce. I would probably never be able to trust women again. He was lied to for 30 YEARS unbeknownst to him. I would spend my days hooking up and having flings that were sexually satisfying but never committing. The person he thought she was didn't exist and never did exist.

Id love to be desired and for me to desire my parrner too. Like i want it to be a mutual relationship cmon yall wtf. 😢that could only happen if both are compatible in alot of areas of their personalities i feel. Like its possible. I had that until my ex lied alot. Literally made me lose interest and sexual desire 100%

​@bignickenergy723 exactly !!! I hate how this video makes me feel. Because its literally what i lived 4 yrs ago. Since last month that i left him. Gosh once ur lied to . Its like who tf is this person???!!! It makes me feel like throwing up.

​@@bignickenergy723that last thing this guys said. "WHAT ELSE ARE U LYING ABOUT" omg kills me. Cuz thats exactly what i felt like. Omg

lol!!!!!😂😂😂 it’s horrible

Obviously NOT her lover ...just sayin'

This!! I'll keep waiting too. Guys with both good character and good looks are out there. There's so many people trying to call women foolish for wanting attraction too. But lack of attraction leads to disaster for everybody involved.

I agree but at some point if your lucky both of you will be in your 60s and most people are not attracted to elderly people. It's a fine line to navigate

The problem seems to be that women judge physical attractiveness in men much more harshly than vice versa. That is, women find most men unattractive. If only say 20% of men pass the looks test, how will women en masse find long term relationships? They won’t

One hundred percent!!

Exactly, we’re shamed for wanting a good man who is also attractive and pressured to get married young. Those men typically aren’t in a hurry to settle down so if you wait to find the full package it’s usually not going to happen by any deadline. This is the result of pressuring only women to rush to marriage. Yes, they will marry the one who is available for marriage even if he’s not a good fit. And he seemingly benefits from this arrangement by getting a woman who is out of his league, but then he’s surprised she’s not as into him as he’s into her. You can’t have it both ways!

Perhaps she just doesn't know herself very well

It seems maybe she has some childhood trauma, or something that has her in a relatively asexual state.

⁠@@lilolmecjyes, trauma for sure!! But also cowardly as a result of the trauma. She doesn’t even really know what she likes/wants DUE to the trauma (I blame her mother. She did poor job of teaching her daughter not to let a man you don’t like to get access to her like that.) To be honest BOTH of them are cowardly. He knows she doesn’t want him but he stayed.. I just wonder how she mustered the courage to allow him to get on top of her FOR 30 YEARS!!!! Even if it’s once year I COULD NEVER!! Then again I’m not a coward………👀

She’s a people pleaser. She’s put his feelings above her own.

This is actually a very common issue Many women aren't sexually attracted to their spouses now or when they met. But got with him anyway because he was a good man and hoped the attraction would kick in. I almost married a man not sexually attracted to 2xIm glad I didn't and waited. The problem is many good men are physically undesirable unattractive. Being a good man isn't synonamous with being a physically desirable man. The two aren't mutually inclusive. We need to have the discussion of how to make good men physically more attractive. Theres this myth that women aren't as visual or mens looks dont matter. Thats not true. Women are simply TOLERATING UNATTRACTIVE MEN.

and she says to be friends with him..... who has friends like that does not need enemies

30 years ago people were hardly aware about how neurodivergence influences some people when it comes to xxx.

Look, you don't get the full truth from a 20 min phone call. If it helps you in any way here is some advice for your future marriage: - look after yourself (I mean hygiene - very important for woman!) - be a MAN, that doesn't need a woman (for washing, cleaning, cooking...) - no Video games (So off putting for most woman) - Don't ever let your parents/mother get involved in your marriage - be funny, make your partner/wife laugh - Show her that you want her (i mean in a manly way, could be strong and rough) Best of luck! 🍀

She needs to be grateful for him paying for her life and for giving her kids.

@@JDAfricahow do you know she's not the higher wage earner? Also "giving her kids" is an absolutely ridiculous statement. If there is anyone giving someone kids, it would be her sacrificing her own body to create those children.

@@staceyk2274 statistically, no ur incorrect. YMMV

Lack of sexual attraction kills most marriages. Especially for men. If the husband is no longer attracted to his wife, there will be no affection, etc. Friend zone.

So true. It isn't about lack of attraction...it is about repressed /unacknowledged trauma (often sexual). It shuts women down. They don't want intimacy. They will use their body initially to attract and secure the "provider". This is often what they were "taught" by the abuser. The woman perpetuates it in her marriage and lives a lie....blaming the man. Men do this as well. I am just speaking from a female perspective.

Its still her fault lmao

People end up marrying people they barely even like.

@CanadianLuvCrush I don’t necessarily think you’re wrong about that, but how could you possibly be so naive to blame “society” for a decision like marriage. How about we emphasize taking responsibility for one’s own decisions instead of assigning blame to this often imagined “pressure”

@@kellya3162 to hate.

@@brandonprice1301 it’s 💯 society’s fault. It’s seen as weird to remain single and childless as a woman. There’s pressure from parents to date, then get married, then have kids, and in that order. A lot of people don’t want this, but when you’re in your 20’s and naive, you just get swept along with society.

Yes but it’s not fair to the other partner who might really need a healthy sex life for a happy healthy life

I totally agree with you. Not everyone feels this way so I don’t give that same advice to my girlfriends.

Love, care and respect tells the truth. The husband deserves someone to desire him. Sexual desire is present in old age.

I’m on this same trip. My best to you!

There is no way there weren't signs or your intuition screaming

​@@Aristaiflyyou're right. I wonder if there were any red flags that were missed.

@@otrebla8944 even if there was, the red flags are easily missed when going through motions of life, and not practicing self-awareness on top of living with "it will get better when ____" like I did when I was married.

​@@brennanleyenso your husband said he didn't love you?

Physical attractiveness changes as you age. If a man marries a beautiful women, let’s face it, that certainly changes with age - but he is married to her and devoted his life to her. He can’t just go “meh you didn’t age well…. Onto the next”, and neither should she.

Im tired of people saying that it's always "society's" fault if women have shortcomings, could you imagine if we used that card as men verytime we fucked up? People would laugh at us, instead we just own our mistakes, try to fix them and carry on but nooooo, with women is always someone else's fault smh

A lot of women’s attraction to a man isn’t based as much on looks as men’s. I think that may be why people say that because a hot guy who doesn’t treat you well or who you can’t respect will become a turn off so I just think people are saying pay attention to his character so you can be attracted. Women just aren’t looks-mainly attracted as bang men are.

@@Dansyoung a man started a relationship with a woman he found attractive at the beginning of their relationship is a foundation among other things he built his marriage upon. he can later remember the spark he had for her. He can glean from that from the past but in this woman’s case she never felt attracted to her husband. Probably kept hoping that one day will feel attracted to him but it never happened.

@@elyse443 seems to me she not only isn’t attracted to him physically she also doesn’t like his personality at least in part. As she said he embarrasses her in public with his words and over sharing.

The dramatics haha. As a man maybe society should stop trying to convince women to marry men they aren't attracted to, looks matter at the end of the day.

He could have done more to make their bedroom life better, unless he doesn't have much 😂

He should have left though. If someone didn't have sex with me a month or more I am done!

@@Zwirdshe said that she was attracted to him in the beginning.

women - it's their DNA. that inbuilt homing device seeking protection, comfort, stability.

She said she was attracted to him in the beginning. Women tend to lose sexual interest in their partner over time.

​@PLD.608 no we don't. Not unless it was never there, or he stops taking care of himself...or he changes in a negative way.

Wrong. The best thing you'd want to have from a woman romantically is sexual attraction. We can respect and admire you and still only see you as a friend.

​@@jayak8217so women should shutdown sexual desires why you don't offer that to men also?

​@@auemmjeethat's not true. She lost attraction to him because he became her child.

It is, she’s not uncommon whatsoever. Been blaming her problems on him for 30 years.

Yeah this is what happens when society convinces ladies that looks don't matter.

The amount of married men that hit on me is staggering.

I don’t know but it’s definitely not the case with mine. We are both extremely attracted to each other. 14 years together. I still think my husband is the most attractive man I’ve ever seen.

@@ashleypiper2558 check back with me in 15 years

This is wat happens wen female doesn't submit

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I feel so bad for him.

Why, she’s not French you know!

He should have strived to be attractive to his wife.

​@@brianring-nu9dwhow exactly? He tried and she tried but this is on her, she didn't feel it and there might not be something that he can do to change thqt

She’s not blaming him for her lack of desire. Did you not listen to the long list of things she’s done herself to solve her problem? Yes, she talked about his ADHD traits too, but she is definitely not blaming him for her lack of desire for him.

@@minoozolalaShe literally never said once “it’s 100% my fault” this is 0% the husband, he is literally the sole victim here lol

Attraction is not a choice.

A woman is never attracted to a man-child. She said his manners/behavior in public are so bad she refuses to socialize with him when other people will be there. When I woman has to tell a grown man not to tell inapproprate jokes, not to interrupt others, stop arriving late etc. she become the mommy to a grown baby. This is why she isn't attracted to him. She sees him as a child and she the mother.

The wall is undefeated 😂

If he doesn't walk, she'll lose even more respect for him and treat him even worse.

Of course she can, older women can still find husbands

@@lisa-pz2px can and will are very far apart. Good luck though

@@lyingdogfacedponysoldier5746 for sure but that's a HER thing, she can if she wants to

It's called hitting the wall.

​@@TLPWRlifterSays the Redpill loser...

Women find a huge bank account very desirable. Money is sure sexy to lots of girls. Get in line toots.

@@TLPWRlifterfound the incel

@@FreshFlamingo Yes the 6'3 athletic 270lb powerlifting incel. My profile pic clearly shows I'm hideous. The word incel has lost all of its sting because feminists use it for anyone they disagree with.

How do you work through your wife finding you ugly and unatractive?

So, what happened next?

Marriage went from something I was ready to walk away from to something I’m happy with again. It no longer seems like I’m the only one who puts effort in. The sex is the best ever. Of course it’s not perfect, but now that we have opened the lines of communication we freely express our concerns as they come up instead of letting it build.

Are you still together??

@@garyshepherdly9357 going strong

true!

This is exactly us. Married peacefully for 26 years. After many years of bickering, we also came to terms with it and now live very peacefully with no drama

My coworker has been married around as long as I have (25 years) and she told me she and her husband haven't had sex in a year.... BUT, she described as if both have reached a mutual agreement. They both very much love each other, but they both have a sex drive that has diminished over the years and are ok with their life as it is. It was interesting to hear this because I have a friend who's sexually frustrated because after 27 years of marriage, she and her husband have had sex a handful of times!

@@texastea5686 Your friend must be filled with anger, rage and resentment. She needs to accept it, make peace with it and move on or divorce and run away. But also, monogamy is just one type of marriage. She should talk to her husband plainly and tell him that either they open up the marriage or its over. He'll make promises that he'll change but it won't. After this long, it's literally impossible to change. So she has options, she just needs to decide that it's a priority and fix it in one of the ways I mentioned. Otherwise, it's status quo forever.

😂

Do you have the same smoke for all the people calling women cat ladies for not getting married young? Can’t have it both ways.

The sucky part is even if you have hot attraction at the beginning. It can still fizzle out years later and still be in the same boat.

​@redesignedlife777 its better than not being attracted from the very start

​@@coconutwater4531why on earth would you care what random people think? I don't even give a damn what my family thinks.

What do you mean practice making her feel like she lost you? And how you guys managed to fix the issue?

So you an ugly man playing games? Yeah that’ll work out.

Information on the husband's actions/behaviour is missing. I am not blaming the husband only attempting to convey the message that they both created the environment that they are in. Why has he let the situation go on for as long as it has? Does he hear her? Does he dismiss her - she did say that he constantly interrupts her? Might she feel as though she has no voice? She did infer that maybe he is not willing to work on his flaws by him saying that is 'who he is'. How does he handle conflicts/disagreements between the two of them? Does he shut her concerns down? Something must have happened in her past for her to feel unable to be vulnerable to him and his behaviour towards her is reinforcing that behaviour of not feeling safe to open up to her husband. She did say that she sought out counselling but it is not clear whether the husband also sought out counselling for himself or whether they did as a couple. Once again, I am not blaming him as I believe both went into the marriage desiring a wonderful, long-lasting marriage. She did say that at the beginning of their relationship that she was sexually attracted to him. There is a severe lack of emotional intimacy between the two of them, and this is impacting on her sexual desire. Every one of us comes with bruises and wounds to our hearts as a result of life. Yes, the onus is on her to deal with those bruises and wounds. But, it is also the role of a husband and wife to attempt to intimately know the soul of their partner. Marriage requires a mindset of 'what is best for the cherished marriage relationship that exists between us' and not 'what is best for me'. That means a husband and wife working on themselves and also working to know and develop an intimate understanding of who their spouse is.

@@mia_f What I mean is this…….let me give some embarrassing and unflattering backstory in as discrete a manner I can. The only reason I going into this here is maybe people are in the same position and perhaps my story can help. Remember, I can go through a brief sketch on the comment section of a RU-vid video. For clarity, I will use phrases like, “wife was having sex for me”. What I mean by that is simple. I mean no orgasm (for her) nothing that physically comes for the women when her body is a part of the act. ******** I am six years older than my wife. We met through church, our parents got us to go on a date. I lost 100 lbs after college (was always big until then) I did not have much experience with sex before we met (but was mad about the fact that no Christian girls in my age bracket seemed to be equally yoked in this arena. When I met my lovely wife, she was beautiful, sweet, innocent, had come from a broken family but loved the Lord. (She is still all of those things) And……. She was a virgin. While we were dating and engaged. She was never affectionate (even her dad warned me that she had not been since she was a little girl). She wanted to wait for marriage. While my body was ready, I glad accepted this because I respected the virtue of waiting. She had other quirks about nervousness and anxiety that were kind of out of the norm even for a woman. (Her dad once said to me that he was against medication but his daughter was a little different on this front) Nothing to bad, it was always kind of cute anyway to me. ****** We get married, I could not have been happier. On thing seems to bother me though. I have not brought her close to orgasm, or even done anything for her that she seemed to enjoy. Now here is the issue at this point: 1. I am not super experienced (but that should be ok. We both wanted to wait) 2. She really wants us to keep trying to get her body to respond. 3. We are newlyweds, I am not gonna sit there and get mad at her…… it “will all work out” (lol mistake) They say to “not put to much pressure” (bad bad bad advice btw) I did what a young experienced loving husband would do. I kept trying to build a life outside and inside the bedroom with my lovely wife. Perhaps we need to see a doctor, if she can’t I am not gonna hurt her for it. ******** The trying gets more difficult overtime by the way. The longer in the 1st year I can trying with no results, not even the slightest sign of where to go,… the more difficult attempts get. No matter how much I tried it was destroying my confidence. She assured me that she that she was attached to me, and that she loved me too. She told me she had never masturbated. One time, after I had had a great time, she asked me in the most sweet and innocent voice, “what does it feel like??” I wanted to do whatever I needed to fix the issue. But as time goes it affects the man. The problem was that she was holding back and lying to me. Attempts to talk about it were either lies to me, or some weird type of test. I’d get determined that we go see a doctor just to rule it out, and she would say no….. we are gonna figure it out. And I love you and I am attracted to you and it isn’t the end of the world if we don’t figure it out. ******* Year two we make a beautiful boy, followed by year 3 3 1/2 another beautiful boy. Life gets busy ************** This all changes about a year and a half ago. Frequency of us having relations is what seems ok to me (twice a week). Off course it is ALWAYS for me. And of course I am developing a physical disability myself from all this . But through a miracle of confidence I decided that we needed to try for her again and drive to a sex shop and have to get some old 85 year old lady explain toys to me, (lol) my wife refused to get out of the car. I buy basically the most expensive thing in the store. We get home, I tell my wife, we gotta figure this out. She tells me that she had been dishonest with me. She had lied about having never master-bated on her own. She told me she was embarrassed and nervous, that is why she didn’t want to tell me. She told me that she reads these stories (literally porn, as degrading and less healthy than porn guys watch I can tell you that) and that she had been able to do that by herself since she was a girl. I was both frustrated because she should have been honest ….yet happy because I thought we were gonna find it that night. Turns out we were unable to have any success in the area for the the next month of trying. That’s when it got dark for me. I stopped wanting to talk to her, I didn’t want to have sex with her, I was repulsed by her for most of 2023. Long story short for most of 2023 it just felt that I had a Christian obligation of an extra mouth to feed (that didn’t respect me). I made an attempt in October to start taking her out on a monthly date (17th of every month set aside for a date with us) October 17 she made love BEFORE the date (which occurred because sec was for me and she wanted to get it out of the way). The date went well, I missed my wife but I could not sleep that night because I realized I had repressed this issue so much. That she had never really completely given herself to me, and I was bitter about it. The 19th of October I was led by the Lord to read the book of Hosea. The book alot more anti feminist that the summaries people give. If God says that the husband is to the wife and Christ/God is to the church then I came to realize He lead on His own terms (look up the Hebrew terms found in Hosea 2:16) ************ The next month was interesting and worth it. I prayed everyday that the Lord would guide me. It was hire painful for me to endure (reading the nasty stories she read all day long….. so that I was prepared to call her on her BS that she was feeding me in this area) It definitely hurt, but I took charge of my marriage and family. Leaving alot of details out but we were trying with …… better results. However, my conclusion, is that like this lady sounds. Part of her wants to have that relationship with her husband and the other part will not allow herself to be vulnerable with her husband enough for it to be erotic. In the case of my wife, what she wants for us in the bedroom comes at a loss of control she doesn’t want to give up. She was choosing to have her cake and eat it as well. Let me be sweet husband who loves and cares for her and she can fulfill her own desires in the bed by herself and she can be the manipulative leader of our home. Through great focus and me fighting through much emotional pain….. I made it clear that she was not gonna have me the way she had me before. I wasn’t tolerating this. About a month after that October date it led to me rearranging the kids playroom. Me putting a bed in there and telling my wife that I would still make sure she was fed, protect her from an intruder coming in the house….. (basics husband duties that I was morally obligated for) But that I was done being her husband until she would give herself to me. I told her I loved her and wanted to wait as long as I could for her to come around but I wasn’t gonna be the husband who she wasn’t attracted to in that way. It was more dramatic than that and I am leaving much out but you get the point. I was willing to lose her and telling her that she had lost me. I didn’t want to lose her. I loved her. But I needed to be strong and not let her bully us (passively) anymore. It took about 4 1/2 minutes later that night. I got to see a side of my wife that I had yearned so much for…. our entire lives. It was beautiful, and it was worth the pain and the risk. I do not blame her as much as the other men (especially in the church) around me. Since then the issue in the bedroom has almost completely resolved. I have instituted a three strikes rule. Basically if we are trying and somehow I fail (the years of what happen still have an effect on my confidence) I only get two strikes. Two consecutive misses from my performance and I withdraw emotionally and physically until she guarantees me a base hit, lol. Still work to do, but I am so glad the Lord guided me through this impossible maze. It really was a miracle. My wife really deceived me. There are very dark parts of this and I think the main guy of this podcast handled the call really really well and was on top of this one. What she says sounds a lot like where my wife was and what it would have been like had I not given all of myself to the painful process of fighting through this. I feel for the guy because it is hard to explain what it is like being the guy in that spot. A good loving guy can easily never get out of a position like this even if he is capable, attractive, competent, and loving. Because she is doing this to her husband and he is not Skilled enough to understand just how much she has simply used him.

@@mia_f Answering you directly. My wife physically responds to me taking charge and not allowing her to describe what she is doing in “nice” terminology. It doesn’t matter how much of a pro the bed or attractive the guy is if deep down the wife thinks she has gotten away with thinking of her good husband as a weak loser who is not capable of seeing through her fraud. Her success at misleading him (or what she perceives as her having mislead him even if he kind of knows) is almost itself a way mocking him…. Bringing him down to level where it is not possible to feel attraction to him. So the best method for me is to look at her and call her out for the disrespect she has held in her heart and almost gotten off to in her mind. I have to reiterate that i am not accepting sex for me as acceptable and that I would rather be alone than that. That she is gonna follow my lead, that she is gonna trust me, but God made her with free will. And that I choose my wife, but if she insists on doing this dark and mean game, then perhaps I would be happier with that single mom I know from work who probably would take the offer, or the other single mom from church who is probably sick of being alone at night. I tell my wife that she best learn to get hot and heavy for “good guy”. Because if she insist on having a “bad boy” in the sack then she may end up turning me into a real naughty boy. But there is nothing naughty about a loving husband and wife getting it on. A husband getting it on with someone else on the other hand is very very naughty, lol. So through this process I have been having to remind my wife to tell me again if I need to be a good boy or a naughty boy??? Which one does she really thinks she wants, lol

interesting. I never thought of it from that stand point. The societal impact of viagra must have both good and bad. It is always nice hearing from a different perspective.

This sounds awful for men -- basically they're just there as a platform for resources while being denied any form of grace when it comes to being loved.

@@Billy-bc8pk She was a retired property manager and I am pretty sure she made more money than he did. This is also something I see in my hospice practice. When an older man’s wife dies, they often return to trying to find a new companion fairly quickly, old women are usually not nearly as interested in doing so. I once heard an old woman say she had no desire to date, because old men are just looking for a nurse or a purse. These men then try to find someone younger with the prospect of getting laid. Unfortunately, not only do they get used for their resources, but they wind up abused in other ways as well. They think they are in love, but once these women have taken everything they own, they leave the older gentleman with herpes and heartbreak. You would not believe the family drama I have seen happen in end of life care.

L😅

Yes. Viagra has the “playing field” imbalanced between older men and older women. Before Viagra, it was balanced and not overdone. HRT “helps” but will never be what viagra is to men.

The problem is not your lack of attraction but the resources that he invested in that relationship, including time, and the resources he lost when you split. It easier to replace a woman than replace a house you paid off.

@@marthajackson1388 well lucky for him he got the house.

The lack of God is the problem there honey

WOW this is probably what I'm going through as well. He complains about me not desiring him, and it's been because of things that have happened in the past and me understanding his personality type more. I feel so bad because I don't want to divorce, but I see stories like this and it makes me feel like I want someone I desire soooo bad, but I'm terrified of what will happen. I'm definitely seeing in black and white, and I want to see colors :( .

@@jeremyfree2fish586your god doesn’t want to get involvedok

Or maybe this is why women should think critically instead of letting other people think for them.

@@auemmjee This is such a ridiculous and dismissive response. Many women are taught from the time they are small that they must be married and have babies. If you want to help fix this problem teach your daughters that they don’t have to nor need to be married if it isn’t what they truly want for their life. Also, teach your sons to be better men.

HALELUIA!!!!!!! They go along with it to have children and then stop cos they're really not into the guy.

So true. I think this is a major issue couples face! And so many women were pressured to marry young & to “settle” if you will. It’s unfortunate

Facts this all contributes

Was it a physical thing, like his penis size or physique, or was it his personality?

It can be all his looks body and personality ​@@danbenz6362

If that's true, I wonder how porn stars "open up."

So sad what we put ourselves through.

I agree with you. Faking it for over 20 years 😵‍💫 When a woman isn’t attractive to her partner it becomes painful to have sex. Exactly what you explain happens to the body.

Someone once told me that it's very difficult to have passion without compassion. Sounds like you and your husband figured this out a long time ago. God bless you both.

Hey, Mango. They did it for you. You turned out good so mission accomplished.