My main problem with Ian is that he is now implying that he changed himself and not Anissa, yet you can clearly see this is false. Just look at the clip of Hasan asking Ian about his early humor and Anissa stops and answers for Ian, even though the topic is about his videos BEFORE HE EVEN DATED HER.
@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116 Anyone who cheats on their significant other and gets into another relationship with said person is only gonna end up with more cheating.
People need to realize that there’s more to _growth_ than just not being _edgy_ . Maybe Idubbz stopped saying the N-word, but in every other way he’s less confident, less articulate, less principled, etc. Idubbz hasn’t stopped being edgy because of how much he’s grown. He’s not principled at all, he’s just regurgitating the generic rhetoric that you hear all over MSM. Hence the only reasons he can list for his old content being _harmful_ are the same meaningless buzzwords that you’ve heard everywhere before: I.e “I put a lot of negativity in the world”. He talks in the same exact floaty, passive-aggressive faux-therapeutical way that every other NPC does, pretending to be open-minded and logical while clearly holding a very high level of malice for Froggy...
He follows whats trendy. It was trendy back then to be edgy and not give fucks. Now wokeness is hip, so he's latched onto that. Realizing this has kinda killed a lot of his older content for me, because it tells me he was actually never principled to begin with
@@charliekelly735 Makes sense why Sam said that about Anisa though. Why would Sam take the disrespect like that? Ian's response puts faaaaar too much emphasis on how Froggy and Sam responded to him AFTER Ian and Anisa screwed them over. Like, no shit they are saying mean things about you, you were being a manipulative POS.
@@charliekelly735 Sam wasn't saying anything before they banned him from CC1. After he was banned and had trouble getting a refund, THEN he started talking shit. Ian and his husband started this because Sam 'ruined' Mr Johma's hit-piece mockumentary and they were butthurt as all hell about it.
Idubbbz has already taken the fastpass into the downward spiral. No more unboxing videos, no more squirrels, no more content cop. never to return. Only mediocre tattoos and moral grandstanding remain.
“Everyone I hurt with my content” Meanwhile tana now says idubbbz was right and what he did taught her a lesson, evidently the only person he is hurting is himself with his own guilt and shame over being funny on the internet 7 years ago
That's a great point actually. He can't say that when Tana agreed with him. Even if he feels he needs to apologise now. Idubbbtz is making less sense because of today's culture war ridden rhetoric.
I think the reason why it “taught her a lesson” was because the video itself aside from the n word justification was an actually very good critique of her character. The n word justification I think is what idubbbz cares about when he says he hurt people yknow
@@beauhendershot7911 And her flippant prior use of the n word was part of that critique, pretty sure that humbled her as prior to the video she was morally grandstanding basically acting like she could and would never say such a thing (her 13 year old fans unaware that she had and did say such things)
@@doctaterror I mean, that’s a whole other debate. It’s undeniable that the word has history, it was a dehumanizing word made for black people by white people.
People are not MAD that Idubbbz stopped saying the n word. If that was the case people would hate Max, Chad, and Joji for their own career changes away from the old content. Max and Joji made their transition in a natural way. They didnt change personality on a dime like Idubbbz did. They transitioned to something they enjoyed and the fans were okay with that. Joji is happier than ever and Max is still comedic on Cold ones. Idubbbz however, turned on a dime. He didnt just "stop being edgy". He changed course because its more financially attractive to grift about NPC virtue signal talking points. He did a complete 180 and goes into boxing when he clearly doesnt seem to enioy it as much as content creation given what he has said and the revealing emotion after his clash fight. Thats not a cry of dedication. Those to me seem like a man who is stressed trying to please his wife. Its clear Anisa wants a "boxing husband" and Idubbbz is going so far to give up his passion in content on youtube to please her. And itll be to no avail. She'll never be pleased. Truly. If Idubbbz seemed happy about this decision, you'd think he would look the part. But he looks stressed. He looks empty. Like this whole attempt to please Anisa is just draining him (Likely because she is never happy. What a supportive wife calling him white trash and basic on the H3 podcast)
Dude went from brutally honest saying what most people were thinking... To filming squirrels.. lol And then he finally got some vagina from a lady who was going after Chris ray gun first but settled for him and completely controls him to the point of speaking for him during interviews? I love Max and Chad cold ones is hilarious. edit: I read your comment again and I got to the point about him being empty and he is a shell of his former self a hollow husk which is kind of depressing but it's funny when you realize he's not learning from any of this and he posts videos like he did thinking it was a good idea.. bruh I got secondhand embarrassment for him watching that.
@Odd James I saw a clip of him talking about how he habitually goes into disassociation, paired with his soulless junkie-esque eyes it looks like he's slowly dying inside. And not only do I not care I'm in Sam Hyde's boat cheering it on lol unfathomable to my 2016 self
@@natefish3989 he's always had this very sheltered social awkwardness every time I saw him and behind-the-scenes footage etc I grew up pretty shy and sheltered so I know one when I see them but I actually have comedy as a defense mechanism that has always been a part of my personality he just faked being an edgelord because it is what was popular at the time idk. I'm not saying this to be mean because I think everyone is autistic but I think Ian is one of those autistic people who don't understand social cues and that's why he can't understand why everything he's done recently is bad and all of his video responses should have just not been done, and he's still a basement dweller in his mind and soul but he thinks he isn't because he got some vagina. Lol The fall From Grace was so brutal even more so with that stupid ass haircut.
Everything that Idubbbz accused Tana of in the Tana Mongeau Content Cop are things that he is now currently guilty of as of his most recent video. 1. He acts holier than thou. 2. He accuses other people of things he's guilty of. 3. He over-embellishes stories in order to spin a narrative. 4. All of his fans that support him are teenagers who think he's a mature rolemodel. 5. He's extremely predictable in terms of how he responds to confrontation. 6. He uses every opportunity to virtue signal his support for a cause like he's an activist in a sad attempt to garner support. And even things that Tana was later criticized for that weren't even mentioned in the video: 7. He's a massive egotist with a thin skin 8. He hosts an entire event solely dedicated to him.
Immature idubbbz: Iron skin Spearhead of transgressive comedy Beloved by all Respected by all Entirety of youtube takes a pause everytime he releases a content cop Collabs with pewdiepie Already makes fun of himself so its literally impossible for anyone to mock him Stoic Mature idubbbz: Marries whore Makes several videos getting butthurt at people calling his whore wife a whore Makes several videos asking people not to make fun of him Cries on camera Paper thin skin His word commands so little respect that he tried to do a takedown on sam hyde and accidentally ended up restarting his career Gets beat up vs an opponent that he personally chose twice Gets trolled in his own documentary 99% of his comment section is people talking about sam hyde's reality tv show
@@tootoo2354well idubbz (or Anissa) kept deleting all the negative comments. So people just started commenting positive promotional comments about fishtank lol. It was funny being in the first day of comments and coming back the next day. Seeing all the funny comments mocking him turn into Jontent was gold.
Idubbbz is definitely a case of "becoming the very thing you swore to destory". In his content cop about leafy, IIRC he talked about how Leafy covers his chin because he's insecure and doesn't want people making fun of him for it (then makes fun of Leafy for it anyways), and yet gets insecure when someone makes fun of him or his wife to the point where he has to tell people to not make fun of him. He criticized Tana for once saying the N word and then acting like she never said it, and now he does the exact same thing but with his entire career. Like like you and a lot of people have said, I don't hate Idubbbz because his wife is a sex worker or because he tried to turn over a new life, but because he doesn't have a spine and acts like his past career never happened.
Funny how that turned out since Leafy stopped crying abt the small chin jokes when he came back in 2020. Idubbbz basically made fun of Leafy and Ricegum and now he regrets making those “cringey hitpiece” video’s because he was hurting people’s feelings.
He makes fun of Leafy for using "he's litcherally a 30 year old man" to criticize people and then uses it on Sam Hyde with absolutely no sense of irony.
Ian’s response was remarkably bad. Like I genuinely was in disbelief when he said “Sam Hyde doesn’t respect sex workers.” Its such an absurd complaint that I cannot believe he said that unironically. Also, most of the clips he grabbed where after him and Anissa screwed Sam over in the first creator clash, so of course Sam would talk shit about them. Ian has officially fallen to H3’s level
Why is it so evil to oppose the production of direct to consumer p0rn? All this talk about respecting women, but somehow them ojbectifying themselves and their holes for the price of a big mac meal is at all respectable? Emp hit the nail on the head how so much of this is the destructive, radical liberalism that echoes through LA.
@@fedpostah its plenty easy to have respect for yourself and be a sex worker. Its also easy to have respect for people who don't respect themselves (some would even say compassionate). It seems like you folks just don't like sex work. The reason why beats me but whatever its your prerogative.
What are you talking about. The jimmy Kimmel video was you at your finest. Unfiltered untrimmed rage caused by getting blasted in the eyes by what is undoubtedly the worst comedy on earth.
I noticed that too when I watched this video and I agree, what he’s probably referring to is the dislike ratio and it being one of his more polarizing videos, which is probably due to it being more politicized than most, but his own opinions is why people watch him in the first place. I guess an objective critique could be that it’s less of a researched documentary like other videos of him and more like a rant, but that’s what he’s doing on this channel now anyway. So why the hell not
Ian’s biggest problem is how insecure and paranoid he’s become. It’s clear he was pissed with how Sam Hyde punked him when he came to Rhode Island to do a hit piece on him. Even admitting that he’s usually “the puppet master” after the fact. It obviously hit his ego and now he’s letting it still get to him. He treats Sam Hyde as this sort of boogeyman because of it and is super paranoid. He somehow thinks Sam Hyde is out to ruin Creator Clash when he honestly has said he supports Ian and his endeavors, even after this shitshow. Still, he’s basically mishandled this situation because of his paranoia, and it’s even affected innocent people as a result. First there’s Froggy, and how he somehow thinks him training or doing content with Sam Hyde would ruin CC2. He was paranoid that Sam would show up because of it, despite the fact Froggy basically told him that Sam had no plans doing so. And then there was that group of morph suit people who got banned from entering the arena because they somehow thought that Sam Hyde would be hiding amongst them, even though they could’ve easily asked to have their faces uncovered before entering. Not to mention the people Ian basically made fun of and pulled into the drama with his response video. Ian is letting petty reasoning cloud his judgement, and that’s what a lot of people are pissed about. His ego got hurt by Sam, so now he’s basically lashing out at anyone and everyone he thinks even has a slight relationship with him. It’s just sad, dude. Ian Jomha really is someone iDubbbz would make a video on.
I know you probably won't see this, but I just want to say thank you for posting on this channel. I started watching in late 2017 and I really enjoy both your video essays and unscripted, more personal videos. It's really nice to get to hear your unfiltered opinion on topics, and it's obvious that you put lots of care and love into both of your channels. We need more youtubers who are honest and open like you.
Facts bro. I'm in the same boat, loved the content back in 2017 that I thank him for being one of those down to earth creators who aren't willing to give into the current dogma and narratives going on now. Emp is a real quality creator who is what I want to see from YT, Idubbbtz makes less and less sense given how much he insults his legacy and fans.
7:00 the leadership skills you mention aren't just expected of men, they're expected of EVERYONE. Ian was being a child and he let it bleed into the event
The fall of iDubbbz is truly one of the most tragic downfalls out there. He used to make banger content in his prime, but nowadays he's pretty much become a shell of his former self.
first it was H3H3 Ethan Klein, and now it is Idubbbz Ian carter, why is every youtuber becoming so boring? there is a reason why people like Sneako get so many views, it's cause they are the new fresh generation of early 20's edgy content creators that are willing to make provocative content that is transgressive and therefor gives it artistic value.
Because passively admitting you were "mean" is easy, and losing money, fans, notoriety, and respect to go with your current beliefs is hard. Especially if you have an enormous ego and a "puppet-master" complex.
Wait, you look down on your Jimmy Kimmel video? Sir, that's one of my all time favorites, and a rightly deserved call-out to one of Hollywood's worst parasites.
I don't think he regrets it, but looked how much controversy was generated similar to idubbbz's content. And th3 differece is simple, Emp owns it up, idubbbz wants his part of history gone.
I'm tired of sex work being forced onto me as a profession that should be respected and placed as a standard to every other profession. I refuse to sell out my beliefs like that.
Its somebodys right to not respect certain jobs. Don't care if its a sex worker, police officer, debt collector, ICE agents, advertising executives, copyright lawyer, lobbyists etc. I doubt that there's a person that doesn't atleast disrespect 1 job. Its just an extension of your personal morality and I think people complaining about other's morals are probably the worst kind of people...
@@Sneaker3719 one would expect the emotional damage on both sides to run deep for an average human your wallet may be full but your heart will remain a husk
Don't judge him too hard, bro. You have no idea how hard it is to not make our wives boyfriend mad. Tyrone WILL take away our Switches and Funko Pops, and how else will I earn my Reddit awards and updoots?! Anyways, Anisa is now serving Customer 0037, so everybody check your tickets to see if you're the next person in line.
@@f1shze4lot Devil’s comment makes it pretty clear that he thinks men are cucks if they can’t keep a leash on their woman. That’s pretty obviously misogynistic.
The worst part is that he gave up basically all his reputation in the name of Creator Clash, which is a boxing match made up of the most boring, milquetoast, irrelevant youtubers who no one has cared about since 2016. He seems to want to treat it as some serious athletic event but thing is no-one watches youtube boxing for actual skill, if they wanted to watch skilled boxing they would watch *gasp* actual boxers! Remember he only really got onto Sam Hyde's crosshairs after banning him from the first boxing event because he was scared Sam Hyde would sabotage it for absolutely no reason. What a fall from grace.
It also is infuriating how Ian basically banned Froggy from not matching "the vibe" of the event. Like what, is every competitor supposed to secretly be best friends? Where's the entertainment value in that? Like Ian's like "He would have made the event worse" but how? How?? By standing for something real??? But sure instead lets just have Chris Ray Gun fight some random big dude, who he has no beef with, and just have a dangerous gimmick fight with no build. Whole thing just stinks of clique mentality with no genuine thought put into how to make the event entertaining for the audience.
I do think it's really funny how he uses clips from Brandon Buckingham to call Froggy a misogynist when Brandon Buckingham is a guy who made a video about finding a rub joint in LA and who went to Thailand to directly support sex workers with ZillaKami.
Honestly, I find it even more immature, seeing people spending their entire week arguing with people on how they’re supposed to act. Instead of just living their life.
Emp, you will always remain one of the few creators I don’t see myself ever loving respect for. Truly a 1 in a million on the platform. Total legend, bud. I came here back from when the algorithm showed me your Leafy vid years back
I like to believe that all this shit is because Sam copyright claimed idubbbz's video on his brony dating sim troll and told him to squat 225 to get it back up
Lemon Emperor really out here being a true content creator while having a personal life. How does he do it? Is it the grease? The mixed genetics? Who knows. All we know is this man is right.
even being neutral/ a fan of his, new or old, there's a lot of little things he does that are really gross. like how "mature" and "progressive" he says he is, how upset he got about froggy n sam hyde's insults, but in the very same video makes fun of boogie and another boxing event as a whole. boogie himself has sketchy behavior but that's irrelevant, idubbz has went completely "rules for thee not for me". he also even gives proof of things like the text messages popping up on screen where he constantly beat around the bush and never gave froggy a direct yes or no to whether stuff with sam hyde would get him kicked, and that wasn't by froggy or anyone else that was directly from him and most likely what he thought made himself look as good as possible. he did edgy comedy and shock content, got edgy fans until he became popular, then pulled the ladder up, said his fans were horrible people, and sits on all his insane amount of money from his "horrible" fans during youtubes heyday while he caters to a rainbow colored blob with issues. he doesn't respect his fans, doesn't hold himself to the standards he sets for others, and on top of that all his actual content output is crap. besides the drama, the dramas funny, the rigged fights like chrisraygun fighting someone that makes him look like a child in still frames. also he looks like a dollar tree joe dirt with soundcloud rapper doodles now
I do not believe iDubbbz has "matured". I am willing to concede to his newer fans (the PC crowd, so to speak) that his past sense of humor saying racial slurs, justifying them with absolutism, and bullying others unprovoked was tasteless and lacked any wit. I can even understand that he'd ban Sam Hyde for insulting his wife (regardless of your opinion on her, it's a man's duty to stand up for his partner). What I do not understand is how him bending over backwards for the sake of political-correctness by going out of his way to constantly remind his audience that he respects women (i.e. not calling Alex Wasabi a "pussy" and calling him "Alex Horseradish" to be PC) and holding others to that same Los Angeles political standard ("Froggy Fresh makes fun of sex workers, so he is a misogynist!"). iDubbbz is a coward who is desperately trying to get in the good graces of others by kissing their asses. Remove his wife entirely from the equation and he is still an emasculated worm.
Sam was banned just before the first Creator Clash when he was training EpicMealTime, and before he had been banned he was on relatively good terms and used to say only good things about Idubbz & Anisa. Sam supposedly wasted thousands of dollars in travel, hotel and ticket expenses before finding out when he tried to get in that Idubbz had banned him. That's when Sam started being more mean spirited towards them.
"Matured" means to these people that the person openly says their ideology or is not edgy anymore. If someone who make normal content with a bit of edgy humor switched to making Roblox videos screaming at the stop their lungs as long they virtue signal occasionally their opinions they would see them as more "mature".
Aaron, you're not fooling anyone by claiming you were in Brandon's video. I don't know where you found that fellow, but we noticed the pigmentation. We're onto you.
@@Sneaker3719 Emp went on his downward spiral because of his distaste to a sect ytp community, not his fans. Ian changed his views and ideologies to better align himself with the SoCal yt community and join their ranks. I'm not gonna say that Emp was the most articulate in this video, but there's a clear difference between ian and emp.
A whole lot to discuss here but one point I appreciated was Turkey Tom making fun of Ian's "I hurt people" nonsense. He said the N word in public and made some strong youtube drama hitpieces. Nobody lost their channel, nobody offed themselves, it is NOT a big deal
I think Idubbz point in the Rice Gum Content Cop video bit him in the ass "Those old offensive videos are still up, and it shows that you haven't changed as a person" and that's clearly been his case now.
In reality. Ian would’ve been one of the comedians offended at the stuff George Carlin said if he was around back then. Sam Hyde is sort of like Carlin. Same comedy style, but Sam’s level sores higher than Carlin ever could’ve dreamt.
Emplemon honestly seems like an example of someone who's achieved what Idubbz (claims to have) wanted to. He left an edgy, irreverent legacy behind in order to try and make more professional, clean-cut content. If you desperately bury a past legacy, it'll only come back like a vengeful ghost and haunt you. If you accept that past and go confidently in your new path that legacy will naturally settle, and you just might flourish in your new place.
Honestly thinking about it again, idubbbz is still pretty based. Maybe he was the puppet master. He kicked Froggy last minute and got a way bigger dude to beat the shit out of his gf crush. He practically hired a legal hitman. Epic style
I love you Emp! Thank you for actually giving arguments that aren't from the "LOL CUCK" but from the geniune fans who loved his content and now is making less and less sense.
Are you not proud of the Jimmy Kimmel vid Emp? Honestly, that's what cemented me to your channel. And you kinda made that your bread-and-butter as all you do is lengthy analyses and video essays. I'm here for it!! Absolutely loving it!
The issue with Ian is that he comes off disingenuous when he makes the claim that "he changed". He should have taken notes of his good friend Joji and realized that he could have dropped the act on a good note. His points of him being harassed have been so moot due to the fact that his old content was centered around bullying. He flew across the country just to say the n word to Tana. If he wanted to denounce all of that, it would have been fine. But instead he chooses to denounce it during the time when his reputation was going down the drain. If he played along with the cuck joke that people made on him, it wouldn't have been that bad on him. It comes off that he can't take a joke and acts like a 16 year old girl when he find out someone is hanging with someone else he doesn't like
What I don't understand is he tries to use the excuse that don't attack my wife whose last name I took because she has nothing to do with my old content even though she admitted that she was the one who came up with the idea that we should go in harass that Tana chick.... She wants people to know that it was her idea she was The Mastermind behind that.. lmao They were both fake edgelords that ended up finally coming out liberal because that's where the money is and now they're both covered in really crappy Chicago hipster traditional tattoos. I legit wonder if Max and Chad regret being friends with Ian.
The rusty cage jab was kinda funny tho because rusty came in decked out in froggy gear and being all edgy and then immediately cowered when anisa confronted him
The vibe I got is, Ian is not ok with Anisa's onlyfans, the way he gets really mad when people call him a simp (he even brought that up comparing Froggy calling Sam the greatest comedian of our generation) and the need that he has to reaffirms himself and call all his critics misogynist is not the sign of someone who's comfortable with their relationship. Get rid of Yoko Ono, Ian. Just an addendum, Ian deliberately poke the bear, he made the documentary on Sam, he platformed him and he constantly provokes Sam constantly, he brought that on himself
