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I forced this YouTuber to play HEAVIES with me... 

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@HopCatSmash
@HopCatSmash 11 месяцев назад
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@saulicereza
@saulicereza 11 месяцев назад
Absolutely everyone loves heavies, we TOTALLY do and that has nothing to do with the video theme.
@josht3186
@josht3186 11 месяцев назад
How dare you speak about our perfect King in that way. Dedede is perfect in every way
@Arcana_zero_studios
@Arcana_zero_studios 11 месяцев назад
Heavies only seem bad due to the stigma of thinking that if someone is slow and easy to hit they're bad. Heavies are great because they can capitalize off it by armoring through hits to deliver huge punishes or utilize having a further reach with strong attacks. Dk V Puff sounds fun until you realize one hit from Dk means puff might just die. And even if they don't it's a huge momentum swing since Dk has more range than piff with his moves. Projectiles are really their only downfall, they grab to counter defensive options like blocks and parries, you can trick the opponent into rolling by making them think you throw out a slow move just to mix them up by attacking where they'll be after the roll, projectiles force you to be evasive unless you have a reflector, and heavies have little to no evasion since they're meant to take hits on the chin.
@fovarberma752
@fovarberma752 11 месяцев назад
_"Do you wanna win, or do you wanna Down+B"_ (With Bowser) Now I understand the final battle of SMB3.
@anthonylucero6650
@anthonylucero6650 10 месяцев назад
Both of You are mooks😒
@pancakeman592
@pancakeman592 11 месяцев назад
Zack after pressing side-b 27 times: "He's such a spammer!"
@Arronic
@Arronic 11 месяцев назад
King of skill mashing intensifies
@bonkeykong858
@bonkeykong858 11 месяцев назад
Hopcat was the one who said that tho
@smoceany9478
@smoceany9478 11 месяцев назад
@@bonkeykong858 zack said it too
@robertitonicitomip
@robertitonicitomip 4 месяца назад
@@Arronic"your such a masher"
@Arronic
@Arronic 4 месяца назад
@@robertitonicitomip YOU ARE A ROBOT!!!
@missingno.4374
@missingno.4374 11 месяцев назад
“I love HEAvies” -Zack 3 seconds into the video
@trollwholivesu7258
@trollwholivesu7258 11 месяцев назад
“I looOOoove the waffles” -cogger
@DAWGIESZ64
@DAWGIESZ64 11 месяцев назад
Spoilers bro
@SimF1e
@SimF1e 11 месяцев назад
@@DAWGIESZ64it was 3 seconds bro
@JohnyMeBoi
@JohnyMeBoi 11 месяцев назад
​@@DAWGIESZ64your not funny
@KrisDreemurr0.
@KrisDreemurr0. 11 месяцев назад
@@JohnyMeBoithey are funny. And much funnier than the original comment, which literally just quoted the video without adding anything 💀
@Helios2737
@Helios2737 11 месяцев назад
This is as natural a fit for Zach as "I played Smash with Little Z and he took a shot for every stock he takes"
@mylastnamescox
@mylastnamescox 11 месяцев назад
So nice of hopcat to collab with a small youtuber
@ericharrison4067
@ericharrison4067 11 месяцев назад
Hopcat: "heavies are bad at a high level" They get online to try and disprove his point
@stormrhys
@stormrhys 11 месяцев назад
Online high level?
@NightFreeze9128
@NightFreeze9128 11 месяцев назад
I don't think <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="442">7:22</a> was an untechable. The launch effects such as the smoke trail are red because K. Rool got launched by player 1, and characters launched by particularly powerful moves have a "meteor entering the atmosphere" effect for the first half of the launch. So, it looked a bit like an untechable because that meteor effect was superimposed by the effect produced when K. Rool hit the underside of the stage, and the tail end of the meteor effect looks similar to the extra red flair added when when a stage impact is untechable. I looked closer, frame by frame, and I'm pretty sure that's what's actually going on there.
@karlson9036
@karlson9036 11 месяцев назад
🤓
@Nenekey.
@Nenekey. 11 месяцев назад
🤓
@noawastaken3650
@noawastaken3650 11 месяцев назад
Thanks you for your research, brave solider
@stormrhys
@stormrhys 11 месяцев назад
Man got called a nerd for this…he did it for us o7 we love ya
@pocket__sand
@pocket__sand 11 месяцев назад
Untechable would've been an actual red splash, the splash was greenish blue still
@WDinATX
@WDinATX 11 месяцев назад
Steps when fighting a difficult boss: figure out their attack patterns, avoid their attacks, don’t get hit by their stronger attacks. Steps when fighting a heavy: figure out their braindead options, avoid their attacks, don’t get hit by their stronger attacks. I sense a pattern 🤔
@jan-seli
@jan-seli 11 месяцев назад
Down-b into windup his punch is a true combo
@SonicTheCutehog
@SonicTheCutehog 11 месяцев назад
Ganondorf's problem isn't only being a heavy. His problem is that his moveset doesn't work with the kind of character he is because he is a very slow character that uses a moveset that was designed for a very fast character. That's without mentioning the moveset also being unfaithful to his appearances in his series with a few exceptions like his Side B and Forward Air.
@Aj-if6rj
@Aj-if6rj 11 месяцев назад
His only canon move is his forward tilt, a move from the Twilight Princess boss fight, which I find hilarious
@Robbie_Haruna
@Robbie_Haruna 11 месяцев назад
@@Aj-if6rj His Side B is based on him choking out one of the sages in Twilight Princess.
@AubergineMans
@AubergineMans 11 месяцев назад
​@@Aj-if6rjBest part is that both his canon moves (the kick and flame choke) aren't even canon to his ultimate design.
@Aj-if6rj
@Aj-if6rj 11 месяцев назад
@@Robbie_Haruna Oh shoot your right
@Aj-if6rj
@Aj-if6rj 11 месяцев назад
@@AubergineMans What a mess of a character
@TabianSSBUYT
@TabianSSBUYT 11 месяцев назад
They DID THE THING WITH THE THUMBNAIL
@tylerboelter8431
@tylerboelter8431 11 месяцев назад
really like the new style of content hop has been doing recently
@tea2kx
@tea2kx 11 месяцев назад
Ikr it's really fresh and unique
@poison6084
@poison6084 11 месяцев назад
I hope you're joking
@MelonSkywalker
@MelonSkywalker 11 месяцев назад
atleast they got marth in elite smash
@bananamotionpictures
@bananamotionpictures 11 месяцев назад
Little disappointed to not see any Ridley. Even if he's not heavy enough to technically be a super heavy he feels like something of an honorary heavy to me. Still a very fun video regardless!
@johnstarinieri7360
@johnstarinieri7360 11 месяцев назад
As one of the few Ridley mains it makes me sad how light he actually is. Even Samus is heavier than him :(
@Pigismal
@Pigismal 11 месяцев назад
@@johnstarinieri7360 one of the least canon weight choices in history, samus is heavy in metroid but not THAT heavy
@zackdanh9352
@zackdanh9352 10 месяцев назад
@@PigismalRidley is also usually like 5x bigger in the Metroid games. If you think about it, Ridley probably isnt that heavy. Most of his size is wing span, and his weight would decrease logarithmically thanks to square cube law. As barely twice Samus's height, I don't think he's heavier than a tall bird lady with a giant suit of armor.
@Heartache2491
@Heartache2491 11 месяцев назад
Mmmm heavies 💖💖💖 The Dedede slander though 😭
@Strawb_milk5
@Strawb_milk5 11 месяцев назад
So heavies are good as long as you are good and your opponent is bad. Got it.
@Supernova4297
@Supernova4297 11 месяцев назад
And you aren’t Dedede
@Arronic
@Arronic 11 месяцев назад
And you don't stand still to get combo by high tier characters like captain falcon or Mario Also Steve Cough
@danielbrooks9728
@danielbrooks9728 10 месяцев назад
So nice to see zack playing his best characters in yet another video
@johnstarinieri7360
@johnstarinieri7360 11 месяцев назад
Zack: “We should give Dedede some throw combos” Me: *flashback to infinite down throw chain grabs in Brawl*
@armandoreyes1029
@armandoreyes1029 11 месяцев назад
That depends on the person's playstyle, it clearly shows how smooth Zach was playing with heavies in contrast with HopCat, Zach has nailed the timings and the movement from the heavies, while HopCat expects a more quick and nimble response. I'm not saying he's bad with heavies, he just needs to get used to it. It's like playing Dr Mario, he's my main but damn he's slow, I usually play fast characters like Pichu or Yoshi when fooling around and they feel so easy, but when I get serious, I choose Dr Mario or Krool, I have to think what I'm doing and be more careful.
@Baxter_the_Octopus
@Baxter_the_Octopus 11 месяцев назад
As a Dedede main in elite smash… I think upping the damage threshold for the gordo’s would be great, as well as making the forward smash match the animation better, and having a bit more aerial mobility.
@MetaKnightX6
@MetaKnightX6 11 месяцев назад
In my option, for Gordo Toss, they should outright remove the ability for single Gordoes to be reflected by non-reflected attacks, increase their damage output, launch/kill power, shield damage and *possibly* allow a second Gordo to be tossed at the cost of allowing non-reflector moves to reflect them again (with like a 10% damage threshold though).
@casual_ssb3282
@casual_ssb3282 11 месяцев назад
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="450">7:30</a> “untechable at 50” 1. Not untechable 2. Wasn’t at 50
@10EightyPlays
@10EightyPlays 11 месяцев назад
Was untechable, head the red fountain Also it is called, “rounding”
@lazyryan3766
@lazyryan3766 11 месяцев назад
Rounding to the nearest multiple of 50
@JellyBeanz69
@JellyBeanz69 11 месяцев назад
🤓
@tea2kx
@tea2kx 11 месяцев назад
Your videos since you 'switched' up your content are really Peak hopcat imo. Not that I don't like the old ones but these just seem to be really thought through and they feel fresh compared to what over gaming channels release at the time.
@Gins.
@Gins. 11 месяцев назад
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="669">11:09</a> I swear I heard "I know I'm gonna win, Corrin's an immigrant"
@astronomical1118
@astronomical1118 11 месяцев назад
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1100">18:20</a> Do NOT get cheesed
@Arronic
@Arronic 11 месяцев назад
No johns
@trashkhan9710
@trashkhan9710 11 месяцев назад
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="482">8:02</a> ''Free neutral win'' he says, offstage
@Snivyking
@Snivyking 11 месяцев назад
square has messed me up so many times. I live in WA so i love seeing all the players i VS in everyday show up in the videos. some how i haven't tho :)
@blackmambax24x
@blackmambax24x 11 месяцев назад
I think Charizard might actually be Little Z's best character. I feel like every time he plays Charizard he goes off
@extr3mev0id19
@extr3mev0id19 11 месяцев назад
The reason heavies are bad at the highest levels of competition is because mistakes are few and far between and you need to capitalize quickly on your opponent's slightest misstep. heavies resist launching more but if you're getting launched then you're losing anyway. if heavies were going to be viable at top competitive levels they would need to hit way harder but then they would dominate casual play even more than they already do.
@TheCatfrost
@TheCatfrost 10 месяцев назад
Here comes peter giving fitness tips to betas
@adailydoseofbuba5470
@adailydoseofbuba5470 11 месяцев назад
Would love to see you do the wii fit challenge poppt1 did a while back we’re every time you lose a stock you have to do a certain number of pushups
@mikerivera2437
@mikerivera2437 11 месяцев назад
The greninja named brick that 3 stocked himself is just *chef's kiss*
@mrelectrodude9391
@mrelectrodude9391 11 месяцев назад
I love watching heavy gameplay, I’d love to see more!
@anti_taaco5206
@anti_taaco5206 11 месяцев назад
we all love heavies
@SmashJEFF
@SmashJEFF 11 месяцев назад
if you hate heavies, you're just wrong
@ChickenBiscuit123
@ChickenBiscuit123 11 месяцев назад
Yes
@Arronic
@Arronic 11 месяцев назад
Heavies are underestimated Np matter how big bulky you are You're super armor will carry you
@JohnyMeBoi
@JohnyMeBoi 11 месяцев назад
​@@Arronicheavies that dont have super armour:
@Arronic
@Arronic 11 месяцев назад
Now we need a part 2 where you only use lightweights Opposite day I shall say 😑
@Toon_Workshop
@Toon_Workshop 10 месяцев назад
“He’s such a spammer!” Zach after his 21st side b:
@spiritbaki108
@spiritbaki108 11 месяцев назад
"I CHALLENGE this NOBODY youtuber to a HEAVIES MATCH" "Hop what the hell u saying u know me since forever"
@PrettyKoolCrocodile
@PrettyKoolCrocodile 11 месяцев назад
That K. Rool gameplay tho!
@mattmalco10
@mattmalco10 11 месяцев назад
Hopcat : "lets play heavies" Little Z : " I LIKE EM BIIGGG, I LIKE EM PLUMPY"
@beny8885
@beny8885 11 месяцев назад
Just to let you know, ur my favorite underdog. I legit laugh so much at ur jokes in the underdos vids 😂
@ryanp.2669
@ryanp.2669 11 месяцев назад
With all the counter sound effects, I'd love to see you try playing a bit of guilty gear strive. Great vid!
@t4yaressyt765
@t4yaressyt765 11 месяцев назад
“Corrins are never good” MKLeo playing Corrin last year : hold my beer
@justinfabela4899
@justinfabela4899 11 месяцев назад
It wasn't because MKLeo's a Corrin player, it was because the Corrin player was MKLeo. Spargo's really good tho.
@JohnyMeBoi
@JohnyMeBoi 11 месяцев назад
​@@justinfabela4899nah corrins good
@AngelJimenez-cs4yq
@AngelJimenez-cs4yq 11 месяцев назад
80 minutes of the chair videos has poisoned my brain into immediately thinking “IMMUNITY” when they’re up 2 stocks 😭
@duffy7993
@duffy7993 11 месяцев назад
I need one more hour of this
@GeoWolfy
@GeoWolfy 11 месяцев назад
Hearing the "counter" from guilty gear strive has made me realise how long i havent heard it for, i have it replaced by the vine boom.
@saxeladude
@saxeladude 11 месяцев назад
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="512">8:32</a> counter must become an underdogs running joke please
@popteamepicbest539
@popteamepicbest539 11 месяцев назад
Hopcat was the one being forced to play heavies
@happymonkeyfish
@happymonkeyfish 11 месяцев назад
one day, I hope they hop on slippi and just mess around, the online is much better
@LunaticThinker
@LunaticThinker 11 месяцев назад
"I'm just gonna jump and flare blitz"
@theillusionist1494
@theillusionist1494 7 месяцев назад
I don’t really agree with Hop’s analysis on K Rool, I think the belly armor is both a reasonable way to shore up the traditional heavy weaknesses AND a good way of invoking the underhanded feel K Rool has in his original boss fights. Other than that, Incineroar is the clear standout, as well as the role Charizard plays as a part of Pokémon Trainer. DK would probably be fine if he got some more elaborate throw combos and a barrel replacing his head but side special. Bowser needs to have his recovery improved, balance his onstage game however you want to compensate. That leaves Ganondorf and Dedede, who realistically both need full reworks. Ganondorf more so than Dedede, but they both could use a more extensive look at their movesets.
@gabrielpritchard
@gabrielpritchard 11 месяцев назад
I usually skip past the Raycon sponsors but the drawing really had me drawn in so I sat through it
@toryunaminosaki1022
@toryunaminosaki1022 11 месяцев назад
hey now, Inceneroar, Ganon, and Dedede are my fav characters, leave them alone xD
@SJMan2022
@SJMan2022 11 месяцев назад
I'll be honest, I've been watching a lot of "early Little Z/Underdogs content" aka pre-covid era videos and I thought this was another one lol. Like I thought it was the video where you played elite smash until you ran into Little Z, take this as a compliment?
@saxeladude
@saxeladude 11 месяцев назад
I had a friend that owned smash ultimate for years and never noticed that they never unlocked dedede
@umbranoctis4348
@umbranoctis4348 11 месяцев назад
The thing I get from that first part with Charizard is, "when in doubt, Flareblitz".
@Mr.Quinge_Twilight
@Mr.Quinge_Twilight 11 месяцев назад
No Piranah Plant smh
@lewishards5671
@lewishards5671 11 месяцев назад
YOOOOO my jab 2 into bair up b though
@nuggetkiwi
@nuggetkiwi 11 месяцев назад
Lord of all Lewis fr
@prism7815
@prism7815 11 месяцев назад
w plays
@da_nong8152
@da_nong8152 11 месяцев назад
absolutely ballin with the link
@Greg-ix4nu
@Greg-ix4nu 11 месяцев назад
my goat
@mingkey6726
@mingkey6726 11 месяцев назад
if there's one thing i learned from this video, its that did you know that bowser down b is actually free offstage against hero because the up b will save you every time? you can go for down b on recovering heroes for free because
@Wakaplayer12
@Wakaplayer12 11 месяцев назад
Listening to the raycon ad with my JLab GO Air Pop earbuds
@MemeSquidWasTaken
@MemeSquidWasTaken 11 месяцев назад
"god he's such a spammer" Zack says, literally only using side b and down b the entire match
@gix9704
@gix9704 11 месяцев назад
The chair's taking over
@treverset2004
@treverset2004 11 месяцев назад
When in doubt nair it out -based hopcat
@matarryfuller760
@matarryfuller760 11 месяцев назад
"king of skill would like to know your location"
@DekiVen
@DekiVen 11 месяцев назад
Bro just assaulted me by saying “Corrins are never good” 😩
@Tee_Wilson
@Tee_Wilson 11 месяцев назад
And then Little z dies to a smart counter lol karma for talking smack to our main 😂
@DekiVen
@DekiVen 11 месяцев назад
@@Tee_Wilson TRUE!!!
@boks02_
@boks02_ 10 месяцев назад
It in fact was not untechable at 50, he got the red launch trail not the red tech splash
@ro3260
@ro3260 11 месяцев назад
Heavy gaming
@suvid9490
@suvid9490 9 месяцев назад
Does the editor play guilty gear strive? That counter message was crispy
@CLOUDS-tm2vj
@CLOUDS-tm2vj 11 месяцев назад
I think Zacks right incin is best designed heavy and it's my fav to play and I preform well in tourney with it too even against falcos and bad mus hype comebacks and u draw a crown to watch u play inci it feels amazing
@GamesbiteRtDL
@GamesbiteRtDL 11 месяцев назад
*Dedede that's the name you should know*
@plabcentral630
@plabcentral630 11 месяцев назад
I can’t attack cancel to save my life. Hands too slow.
@RotaAbyssian
@RotaAbyssian 11 месяцев назад
My biggest question at the end of this: Is Ridley not considered a Heavy? Otherwise, did you guys just forget about him?
@lgachaboyyt
@lgachaboyyt 11 месяцев назад
ridley is a big light character
@AubergineMans
@AubergineMans 11 месяцев назад
Samus is heavier than Ridley
@RotaAbyssian
@RotaAbyssian 11 месяцев назад
...huh. I don't know why I remember him being heavier. Maybe just him having the same Down Smash as the two newest heavies threw me off.
@AubergineMans
@AubergineMans 11 месяцев назад
@@RotaAbyssian Because he's giant. Guess he has hollow bones just like a bird
@jay-tality5795
@jay-tality5795 11 месяцев назад
Support all underdogs all put out great vids 👍
@marcusjohnson8649
@marcusjohnson8649 11 месяцев назад
I get what he means. Heavy characters' strengths aren't rewarded at high level and their a lot of heavies' weaknesses make them almost unplayable if your opponent studies the game minimally.
@williamberry3596
@williamberry3596 11 месяцев назад
For some reason I thought they were versing each other and then I saw the tag “creature”.
@LuigiLonLon
@LuigiLonLon 11 месяцев назад
It seems Peter forgot about Brent, huh
@64l14
@64l14 11 месяцев назад
I was wondering why Kazuya wasn’t included then remembered Ganon didn’t give him the rank of heavy
@saiyangrayzon
@saiyangrayzon 11 месяцев назад
Me listening to the raycon ad using my racon earbuds XD
@tehZombuscus
@tehZombuscus 11 месяцев назад
You should get Zack to direct your sponsor segments.
@dabiskitt
@dabiskitt 11 месяцев назад
I haven’t watched yet but I wonder if there’s a kazuya or piranha plan in this video
@AreMine
@AreMine 11 месяцев назад
mans been playing ggs i swear
@Dgamer14
@Dgamer14 11 месяцев назад
Love your content Hop :D as a fellow ganon player i enjoy watching you and the rest of the underdogs play cause you guys are very funny to watch and sorta teach me a bit more on the heavies in smash as well.
@Uggnog
@Uggnog 11 месяцев назад
"If I were to say something about Incineroar, I would say he's the best designed heavy in Smash." Pokemon fans, get him
@tonyhoang987
@tonyhoang987 11 месяцев назад
I guess pt3 of this trilogy is playing heavies against a pro (poppt1)
@Luna-od8tm
@Luna-od8tm 4 месяца назад
Never played heavies But looks like someone is doing fine playing em :]
@kirb1128
@kirb1128 11 месяцев назад
Did not know hopcat was a w artist
@vangoghkart452
@vangoghkart452 11 месяцев назад
Zack relegated to “this RU-vidr”
@pocket__sand
@pocket__sand 11 месяцев назад
Incineroar vs K Rool is insane. I'm an Incineroar player and K Rool gets wrecked. counter the recovery while still on stage for free revenge, his fat ass gets frame trapped and combod real bad and Incineroar hits hard enough to get early stocks on K Rool too
@Cybertasm8798
@Cybertasm8798 11 месяцев назад
I was just watching one of your videos and this came out lol
@voiceofreason2674
@voiceofreason2674 11 месяцев назад
DeDeDe is already perfect and doesnt need to be changed at all. He was top tier meta defining at my colleges tournaments and we had some semi pro players who used him. You gotta be WAY more aggressive and throw smashes out otherwise people will be bold enough to combo food you. A few forward smashes and aggressive up b landings will make people respect your killing power and give you space to control the fight with ur gordos
@monky4640
@monky4640 11 месяцев назад
where's the /j??????
@APG6
@APG6 11 месяцев назад
for some reason at the start i read heavies as he ve's i dont know why but i did
@danielbrooks9728
@danielbrooks9728 11 месяцев назад
relatable
@watcher99999
@watcher99999 11 месяцев назад
Leave the funny penguin alone
@lunaticwannabe
@lunaticwannabe 11 месяцев назад
Poor DDD...😢 He needs a rework for sure, sadly. Although, he is fun to play.
@saxeladude
@saxeladude 11 месяцев назад
K.rool gameplay player plays with one hand while eating chicken nuggets in the other K.rool eats chicken nuggets to get fatter so his belly armor is stronger
@freddyespinosa1671
@freddyespinosa1671 11 месяцев назад
Heavy boy
@MelodyLumina
@MelodyLumina 11 месяцев назад
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="441">7:21</a> not untechable at 50 the k rool is just bad
@Inksploded
@Inksploded 11 месяцев назад
INCINEROAR IS BROKEN DUDE
@popteamepicbest539
@popteamepicbest539 11 месяцев назад
Where’s Poppts ASMR sponsor
@1308lee
@1308lee 11 месяцев назад
My GF disagrees but theres a guy on love island called George who’s basically British Hopcat
@ichabodthecrane
@ichabodthecrane 11 месяцев назад
my girl heavier than king k rool, y'all dont love heavies half as much as me
@infiniteboredom7419
@infiniteboredom7419 11 месяцев назад
Why does this sound to derogatory <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="505">8:25</a>
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