I put my Demon 170 on the Dyno.. How much Power? 

Why modify? Dodge knew what they were doing. Already badass. Leave it alone

@@charlesmyers9765 shade tree mechanics know more than engineers, duh.

@@sktona So you're saying mods don't make power?

@@greebuh most mods don’t do anything on regular engines. And this one’s optimized, you’re not bolting anything on that makes a realistic increase in power. Other than nitrous.

@@sktona so you think going full bolt on does nothing... 👍

It definitely does 👍

I was a bit surprise when I heard the dyno operator said what he said. Also, I find, typically, that dynojets offer higher HP numbers than Mustang dynos.

@@Concern_Citizen Absolutely. Mustang dynos calculate by far the lowest HP output of all the mass produced dynos available. I've seen many instances where there was a 10%+ difference between a Mustang and a Dynojet.

Actually there is pretty much no difference in transmission losses between gears over the range of ratios most cars use. The myth that 1:1 is better came from older manual transmissions where the 1:1 gear wasn't a gear at all. A sleeve simply connected the input and output shafts in that "gear". Thus there were no gear mesh losses. But when you have teeth meshing, whether its in a 1:1, 1.3:1 or 0.8:1 gear the losses are pretty much the same. The difference in measured output in different gears often comes from the inertial loss changes in the driveline due to differing acceleration rates.

@@KZ-se4ik - You said a lot... it's an age-old argument. These were arguments we had in my mechanical engineering classes back in the mid-to-late 70s. I'll attempt to go through your explanation... first, I'm not sure what you mean by "transmission losses between gears over the range of ratios...” It’s a matter of physics that rotational inertia consumes energy that will produce measured differences. As it relates to automobile’s gear ratio impact on horsepower loss, it’s all relative. As horsepower is the measurement of work over time, and gear ratios affect the speed of the output, there obviously would be differences measured. However, there are other factors that would affect the results. How impactful are those differences, I guess, depends on the message. But I don’t think it’s safe to say there no difference in measured power loss (I’m assuming your term “transmission losses” equal power loss) between or across gears. I’ll agree, relatively speaking, the measured differences may be minimal, but no non-existent. Just my two cents. Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

I've tested different gear pulls on a few vehicles on my own MD-250 mustang dyno. Any time I'm not in direct drive, I lose power. This is with inputting the correct parameters and testing ratios. Automatics have more moving parts/drag when you are not in direct drive, just as a manual is. In my big block cuda with a 727, its a hefty difference between a 2nd gear and 3rd gear pull, even with changing all the appropriate ratios so that the software calculates correctly. On a separate example, tires, we had a 60whp difference on a 500" big block cuda going from 10psi in his drag radials to 25psi. Any drag or load whatsoever will effect your results. Having more parts moving in the transmission is no exception.

It’s a status symbol really for the price

@@jakefox3677 Yeah pricing is ridiculous.

PEOPLE PAY OVER 100K FOR A PUSSTANG...

This Demon sofar is performing alot easier than the OG 18 Demon. All functions work alot easier. Impressive Dyno numbers forsure. I hope you get used to the Torque management real quick as others have got the 170 in the 1.2second 60ft area. This is going to be an entirely different animal compared to your Black charger. Sweet video & looking forward to more videos of your 170🙌🤟

Don't let that power get away from you

Certainly more than advertised

Sounds like dodge did the numbers game like they did the old schools. Marked it for less when it really could potentially be making more than that.

What does an insurance company care between 1025 and 1100? lol

@@mik3ymomo you'd be surprised.

@@FWTE1969I insured 5 cars in my collection and they base the rate off the cars values. They don’t care at all how much the cars make for power. It’s all about replacement value. Now these are limited use policies and not daily driven cars but I recently got a quote on a new Huracan EVO and the rate wasn’t outrageous at all either with no mileage restrictions at all. I think the whole claim about insurance rates and HP was from a bygone era in the 1960’s and possibly 70’s.

Thanks buddy

In the motorcycle world,that would be Kawasaki with their H2R!

Chrysler is owned by Stellantis which is a French company. Nothing made today by them is remotely American. Look at the jeep renegade. The door placard will say its made in Italy. The Fiat 124 Spyder... its just a ND Mazda miata with a fiat body & drive train with rotary shaped headlamps!😂

This doesn't just apply to Stellantis.... Hardly anything is made in America these days... It's either from China or elsewhere. That's how it is in this day and age. Love it or leave it.@@---zq1cz

It’s technically a modified hellcat, so it’s not really stock, it’s pushing more boost.

Yep, every time something don't make what they want it's the dyno reads low. Either way 900+ is crazy for a stock car.

An G80 M3 recently broke its record, actually.

Thanks buddy

Thank you my friend

A couple 170s have already gone 151mph. The one that ran 8.89 went over 150. Ron Silva’s 8.9 second pass was 150mph and change.

The 1320 scat isn't limited to 150. I know there is a destroyer grey 19, sitting in my driveway. Governor is set at 170.

@@karlhopkins713I’ve been to 171 in a 392

I’m over these dealers being shady .. terrible business practices

For sure.. I think this will be the faster car

@@RacerX9 if its an automatic how did he keep it in 5th gear on his first run and then put it in 6th gear in his second run?

You just paddle shift it manually

@@RacerX9 its an auto with paddle shifters that you can manually shift? I never had paddle shifters. Thanks

Justin is a good dude. He has done work on my Mustang.

@@freedom6919741 Got the 2023 Scat Pack, F8 Green Swing in the garage, still trying to figure out if I want to keep it or use it, the keep is winning & I've been in the autoparts biz my most of my life, Had Trans Ams & Formula 350 back in the ole days, but I have 450 miles on this sled pages haven't opened yet & the car is growing on me & @ 65 retired, been thinking about creating a sleeper, Central Flo hasn't seen in a while!!!! Not sure if I want to go with a super charge, don't wanna lose the Shaker, just a 6.4 build with cams, pistons, & want to keep the exhaust polite, mid muff delete & headers, but keeping the vacuum tail tips, if ya know what I'm saying. etc, etc!! I'll have to stop by this place, have a freon biz partner in Tampa & say hello!! Thanks for the reply!

We will see tomorrow

My 3 cars I have owned that have been on dyno for mods and these were the baselines: 18 Mustang GT Auto 10spd, 394wheel, rated 460crank, 19 Challenger Redeye 8spd Auto, 702whp, rated 797crank, 22 Camaro SS 1LE Manual, 422wheel, rated 455crank.. All 3 done on the same dyno, SAE Smoothing 5..

Thanks buddy.. I was great to meet you 👍

Agree! Hennessy dyno video was right in that ballpark at 924

rwd drivetrain loss is only 10% tho

@@blazesmooth5573 Dodge and Chrysler Lx platforms have not been known for efficient drive systems. The original Hemis with the German NAG1 5-speed were at best 15% (actually calculated to 17.1%). My 300s had the 5.7 rated at 340hp and put down 292 at the wheels. The SRT was rated at 470 and put down 417. Neither generation would achieve the efficiency of 10% loss…too much weight and too many moving parts. Keep in mind the supercharger alone pulls over 100 HP out of the performance measures just to spin the system for boost.

​@@blazesmooth5573big automatic trans probably over 15%

you are not getting 10% loss. Come on really @@blazesmooth5573

Over 1000hp and the first thing ppl say is " now you can mod it" NO! It was designed to handle this power level. Leave it the hell ALONE!!

@@charlesmyers9765 He can make his own choices. But the mods I consider is a pulley swap and retune. Because the pulley is sized based on the limits of 93. Plus Im sure the thing can handle another 200. Im not suggesting body cutting and suspension mods. But maybe i shouldve said tuning.