I rebuilt a disaster subwoofer someone else already built, a Shocker Sig 

I believe you...so are allot of other popular RU-vid channels... Their are hundreds of videos describing the stress and time thief being a popular channel becomes...lots if suicides also!! Oh gosh bro...statistical curve.... Lots of people to enjoy... Lots to hate...

@@sarahconner9433 thing is we all are vulnerable to trauma and extreme stress so I don’t entirely believe sudden fame and success automatically justifies your actions and the way you respond to other ppl when you hear constructive criticism or simple banter.

Will. Alllllot of people don't like that guy.....I don't love him either..he just brands other peoples stuff with that 3 letter shit.. And thinks he's smarter than Donald Trump...

Thin skinned fragile ego maniacs on youtube? You don't say.

@@hispls I never made the connection..........lol

In a time where nothing is on time, I won't give a time. If I put a date on it, the day after will be full of messages asking why it's not already installed in their car if it's not delivered by that date. On Lowballers I tried to put a date on them within 3 expected days of shipping them and it ended up being another 3 weeks.

Yes it did sound like a bog truck. Great build

IIRC those are around a 10,000 gauss.

The way I have understood it is that the narrower the more efficient but less powerful but more musical, and the wider it handles more power but with a smaller response range better for SPL.

OK cool thank you

It's not exactly that cut dry or accurate. The top plate height doesn't effect power handling or sound quality in regards to clarity.

I was only asking about the gap between the pole and the top plate. And how that would affect things.

@@yourdaddy5630 lol answered a different question i suppose.

They are nice Sub’s I own 18 times 15” Shocker Sig tied gap and 4 times 18” Shocker Sig tied gap i think they did not produce more then 50pices in the past

​@@newdeal_99I don't think your statement is entirely accurate. I spent a lot of time with Mike and talking to him. And I'm thinking your statement isn't very inaccurate.

You're probably thinking "Super Extreme" which was TC9 motor. They were used on TC-2000, Orion HCCA, Eclipse, and I think a couple others. They still come up from time to time on forum classifieds. A versatile motor that supported several solid woofers. I have had interesting results building those with different coils.

Being worth it or not is up to you, but that is something I can do.

Quad coils are bad ass , wish I could use em

@@charliefrancis6438 they are for sale

i could use 9

@@666nacirema666 I don’t want to break up the box so I could sell the box of 15.

@@jasonneal how much?

It's not really an upgrade if you're going back with the same parts, but them sending an exact drop in would be the easiest yes.

This motor is over 15 years old.

looks like fixmyspeaker parts to me.

The only reusable parts would be the motor, basket, and terminals. Everything else would have to be replaced.

6,000 isn't particularly low, you might be surprised what your favorite subs measure. It's just not particularly high either. You could cut the top plate in half and it would raise the gauss quite a bit, till the point it's completely saturated and won't go any higher. There are a lot of factors that determine gauss, like top plate thickness, magnet grade, magnet and top plate diameter, quality of steel, back plate thickness, pole venting, gap size and how well the motor was charged to start with.

Glued in place AFTER the coil was set in place.

The CA glue is from Palm Labs. Epoxy is an adhesive, as is CA, so you would use one or the other.

Some leads need it, others don't. This is one of those instances it's needed.

E6000... stuff strong as hell. Comes in black and clear. Can get it any hardware store, Walmart etc.

Toughened CA glue

Nah not at all.. just make sure it’s clean and free of debris.

The w7 12” can fit a 4layer voice coil and a TI frame with a 10” spider it will handle more in every way and sound amazing.

E6000. Comes in black or clear. Strong as hell. Dries like rubber. Awesome stuff, any hardware store, Walmart etc. Easy to find.

3" coil 15's are usually around $215.

CA can dry out foam which can make it delaminate. If it's thin enough it can absorb before it adheres. E6000 just does a better job, consistently.

@@EMFAudio that definitely makes sense. Thanks for the great info on all your videos. I've reconed 2 subs so far and both turned out perfect from following you step by step.

We don't keep JL parts on hand, rarely recone them.

@@EMFAudio is there a way to use other parts, perhaps something you have there already? Or do they have to be w6 specific?

I got the same 2 15s my cones came apart from coil i had to take the cap off and re glue it all but these subs bang for old school subs

@@mapexman86 did that cause a rattle sound like it was coming from under dust cap? Getting worse louder you got?

@@Thumper68 yeah

I should be able to do those.

@@mapexman86 I have a sub doing the same thing and was going to remove dust cap but was hesitating definitely going to check it out now thanks for response.

It will be a challenge to fit both 15's or 3 12's in that trunk simply because of size limitations. I'd say your best bet is probably 2 12's.

@@EMFAudio I appreciate you, thanks for the input 💪🏾💪🏾

That's the wrong order of operations. At that point it's too late. You blow out the gap before the coil is even put in, which I did.

The spray is the activator... Completes the drying time COMPLETELY in 30 sec. tops

@@smigletat9634 The most important questions I had about this stuff have never been answered by anyone, not even the original video poster. What is the (brand?) name(s) of this stuff, were do you get this kind of stuff, and how much does it all cost?!

@@JoeJ-8282 Right off hand I couldn’t tell you but with that said.. I have 2 passions.. Car Audio & also Wood working! I have used these products in both fields & work quite well. I am currently rebuilding 2- DC audio lvl6 m1-15’s I just ordered parts yesterday but still need to locate my gluing products or I could give you a better answer.. Sorry

Also do you have tc 5400s motors?

Sometimes we do, we've got some things in the yard sale.

I bet you'd be surprised to find out what they aren't making in house, and maybe even claiming to. Historically they have "made in USA" subs with motors that are off the shelf from China, along with every other part from China.

@@EMFAudio I dont know but on their website they say they left China and tooled up to make as much as possible in house. Including magnets, cones, spyders etc. I still like my China Lowballers! lol. Thanks for replying!

@@freeradical431 Paul Pierce is a thief and a conman. Dude is an absolute moron and terrible businessman, avoid at all costs.

Max power is a meaningless rating used for marketing.

@@EMFAudio what watt amp would i watch to one 12 playing music not for spl

@@jasonmorris9138 they're 3,000 RMS, so ideally 2,000-3,000.

Go on Facebook...find dave lieb and send him a message

We do not.

It took 7 days, didn't quite make it.

Yes that shoulda been the very first thing done to the rebuild. But not everyone has those they take major power like 2 runs of 220 volts 440 volts altogether if im not mistaken.

1 video has lead people to misunderstand something about speakers. Motors don't lose magnetism over time. Any motor that can take more of a charge wasn't fully charged to start with.

@@EMFAudio so u wouldn't freshen up the motor on a old sub if u had the machine setting right there in ur shop ud just let it sit there.

@@joshholden8561 Nope. If it were that important, I'd have one to do it with. The only instance I might put a magnetized sub in a magnetizer is if it's used for competition SPL where every hundredth of a dB counts to insure it's as strong as it can be. Though worth noting, that magnetizer won't work on neodymium motors which is what is probably used for SPL anyway.

@@EMFAudio plz explain to everyone reading what neo means and what other types are used and the pros and cons of each i think this would shed some light on the issue. Thanks josh

CA glue, only on the outside edges.

@@EMFAudio ok kool thanks bro

@@EMFAudio ty

3”.... Looks as though.. Shocker sig. If your old enough to remember.. I certainly do. They were Good back in the day, but now. .. Not so much😬

There is only so much you can do with a given motor design and coil size. The only way to increase power handling is to use a higher temperature coil, which we typically do because we use 500 degree coils where much of what we recone is a 280 degree coil.

@@EMFAudio I gotcha. I need a recone with whatever parts will work for it.

@@DisShiTooEZ I've got dual 2 coils in stock I believe. Cones too, spiders I'm not sure.

@@EMFAudio I would like to send it in for a recone if you are available😁

@@DisShiTooEZ You can send them over, turn around will be a week or two usually.

They're originally more common in the northeast and Midwest as they originated in Ohio.

I posted an add on Facebook up here in Maine (mid coast) trying to buy some blown up performance subs (but if cheap enough even budget subs just to salvage the ferrite to combine the slugs to build some custom motors but have had zero results... Which surprises me yeah some people will repair blown subs but a lot are intimidated by re cones and here in Maine not a ton of options and will just toss it aside and buy new, you would think they would want to re coupe some of there original investment. But at least mid coast Maine is just so not a hot spot for car audio it seems damn near non existent, I never see bumping systems around even close to mine and it slaps pretty good but its not a crazy extream system, I've tried to find someone with an SPL meter up here to test my system now and after my upgrade but no luck with that either. Do you know of anyone here willing to Meter a system in Maine?

@@95Sn95 well I’m in central Maine. I have a termlab meter.

@@95Sn95 everyone I knew in Maine in audio either left Maine or left audio.

All '05 "small gap". Only 200 big gaps were made, the 3 I ever had I sold to Andre in The Bronx and he shipped a lot of those motors out to Eastern Europe. Big gap "'02 sig" has a much wider pole vent and the slugs stick out a little bit more from the top plate. AFAIK there's 4 '05 motors up here. One in my F250 and 3 in my brother's Civic which lives in my driveway. Not to be confused with the neo motors. 50 of those were made, I own 8 and Rooney has 1 that he got from John at T3.

No, not even remotely close.

Yes they are

you mean like two separate spiders? upper and lower? i've heard the top spider is just for show, that the bottom one does most of the work

It's not just 1, just like I said in this very video it's a pack of them.

There is no instance where spiders are "for show", any spider would effect compliance. There IS a purpose for spaced spiders, which is why the Banhammer line uses them.

@@EMFAudio thank you for the correction. funny enough, i heard that statement on robot undergrounds channel.. maybe i just misunderstood him

@@notyobiz6207 or maybe he doesn't understand and is giving out bad information and you heard what was actually said.

You're right, some don't want to learn, they just want to see "flex" and be critical of what brands are shown doing what.

Nice im rebuilding some earthquake subzero 12's with the flat dustcap's. Im just looking for flat wire coils with the same specs as the mmats juggernaut subs. I bought them blown, bringing them back to life.

Our contact form on our website www.emfcaraudio.com

you must not be in Cali huh? earthquake will reconed for about $450 if you can get em to Hayward. had them reconed mine, and it looks and sounds like new

Nope, it took almost exactly 7 days

I've done a video rebuilding one of those.

@@EMFAudio hello new to channel seen a speaker foam presentation from some yrs back want to ask a question

The top plate wasn't even painted at the mating surface, not that paint would change anything anyway.