Hey everyone! Settle in for another Bleach Battle Analysis - this time, we're taking a look at the final Espada fight of the series, Ichigo, Kenpachi & Byakuya vs Yammy! What did you think of this fight? Do you agree with my theory that Kenpachi and Byakuya ended up fighting each other? Let me know your thoughts!
I don’t think they fought each other considering they paused while charging at each other when Yammy transformed. And then they fought him for over an hour. Yammy’s incompetent but still powerful with that considered and his wounds were too deep for someone who happened to be in the background.
I think Yammy’s second transformation is in fact a second release maybe unconsciously and I think his ability to eat souls with Gonzui could be a reason for him to be able to achieve a second transformation as well as his standing as the Zero Espada. I also want to give Yammy the benefit of the doubt and say that he actually gave Byakuya and Kenny a challenge in his second form and they didn’t actually fight each other.
I feel like this fight foreshadows the future of manga fights where you will have importen side characters that the writter would hate having the lose in proper fights so insted they will have them be eather wasting time fighting way weaker villains to a point where you have to question how much of a threath the villains really are or have them be defeated so quickly by the main villain that the impact is barely fealt in the story
Ichigo having a hollow helmet make sense because Shinji actually has one. Maybe could may video about the hollowfication assimilation process and how it affects the level of masks between the Vizards.
I always loved that verbal scuffle between Zaraki and Byakuya that nearly came to blows. You can pinpoint the exact moment where the scrappy personality of "Young Byakuya" slightly resurfaces.
That was most likely a writing error on kubos part. The databook confirms that yammy surpasses ulquiorra in release, so that part just didnt make sense.
Ulquiorra said that an Espada over four releases could destroy Las Noches not that it would and when we cut to Yammy’s defeat large parts of Las Noches are destroyed.
Yammy was too damn weak despite being the 'strongest' while Gerald was too strong that he needed the plot to kill him off. Kubo learned his lesson but went the opposite direction, lol.
@crustyflakes3861we don’t know how strong that 2nd form of Gerard’s was. Sooner or later, Gerard would eventually overpower everyone. He’s literally Askin in the Physical Sense not Chemical wise.
Unexpected drop. I always love how confident ichigoat is when he says I can crush you with force. Bcuz a large majority of the series is him questioning himself soo small scenes he's confident is refreshing.
i can’t stress this enough but the thumbnails are so beautifully done. Especially this one, it really acts as the gate to the phenomenal review that was this video.
I think kubo forgot that Byakuya and kenpachi were still fighting yammy while he was focusing on what was going on in fake karakura town arc and when aizen was defeated, suddenly realized that yammy was still there and just decided to kill him off screen in order to not undermine aizen being the final boss of the arc.
It's one thing for kubo to offscreen yammy , but that the fact the anime didn't seize the opportunity to show the fight as a filler/ cannon episode just boggles my mind . Yammy is definitely pathetic if the fillers wouldn't do anything with him😅
The hypothetical you dropped of having the entire Karakura gang fight Yammy blew my mind at how perfect it would've been. The definition of a full circle moment, the natural conclusion of the "six hearts beating as one" theme from the start of the Hueco Mundo invasion, and after all this time finally seeing the main squad work TOGETHER against one big foe...but no, more Byakuya and Kenpachi was what we got. Such a letdown. I know Kubo wanted some excuse for Kenny and Byakuya to not leave for Fake Karakura, but I'm sure there was better ways to do that than wasting Yammy on them...maybe have Rudbornn summon a bunch of Menos Grande or the like right before he dies? If it's good enough for the Vizards its good enough for everyone else
In the databooks, it is stated that "Yammy inflicted deep wounds onto Byakuya and Kenpachi whom the Gotei 13 are very proud of". So the wounds that they both suffered were caused by Yammy.
So deep that both Byakuya and Kenpachi were unbothered while coming back from Hueco Mundo and Kenpachi didn’t even seem like he had all that good of a time so idk about this one
@BunchyPanther42 both were visibly heavily wounded coming back. Zaraki prob said it was boring because it was a 2v1. Also byakuya had also walked off from his fight with ichigo unbothered too. It's a personality trait of his.
Kubo had potential to make Yami a ACTUAL threat the 2nd time but turned that giant dinosaur looking brute into puppy chow. Gerard on the other hand was for the most part executed well. (Coulda made his weakness that constant Miracles AREN’T miracles anymore)
Yammy is the biggest (no pun intended) example of why portray and depiction matter. You can have a character, other people, or even databooks say they're the strongest. However, if they don't live up to those statements through their actions or what's being shown, they end up looking weaker and pathetic. Once Byakuya and Kenpachi enter the fight, this whole fight is treated as one big joke. Skipping the fight once Yammy enters his 2nd form, and then cutting to him dying on the ground is something you would see in a comedy. Honestly, you can have SpongeBob music play during this segment, and it would not change the tone of the fight at all.
I always assumed since Kenpachi not only actively suppresses his power but has subconsciously suppressed his power he can easily tell something is off with Ichigo and is trying to beat sense into him the only way he knew how
While I’ll die on the hill that Kubo having to tell us in a databook that Yammy did put up a “good fight” says a lot about how mediocre this battle is, Byakuya jumping in was just bad luck for Yammy. If he had a straight 1v1 with Kenpachi, it would’ve been a more sporting match. Regardless, despite being the strongest, Yammy didn’t have anywhere near enough IQ to ever pose a threat with all his power.
I find it odd how similar Yammy and Gerard's abilities are. Sure there are plenty of differences, and Gerard was obviously more powerful, but they were both enemies who got bigger and stronger the more they were damaged. It kind of feels like Kubo regretted finishing Yammy off screen or just didn't like how he made him, and so tried again with Gerard? There was also some repetition between Zommari and PePe's abilities, who also both fought Byakuya. Pepe was not an improvement though. Not sure if Kubo was running out of ideas, just forgot he already used similar ideas, or had other reasons.
I’ve never had a problem with Yammy, I completely buy the fact that he’s espada 0 but he’s also massively lazy and has zero skill (which makes sense considering his method of gaining power is essentially by being lazy as hell). I liked the fact that he was one of the most extroverted Espada, likely from the fact that he has to spend most of the day eating and sleeping so he’s desperate for interaction, which also shows why he’s always willing to jump at the chance to go to the human world, he just wants to hang out and break shit. I would argue that he’s actually just as passionless as Ulqiuorra and even Ulq’s death couldn’t truly make him fully angry.
Those fights were disappointing. Harribel got weaker after powering up, Barragan just stood around because his powers was so stupidly hax he didn’t need to do anything, and Stark’s fight was just mid. Yammy didn’t even get a fight and just skipped to his dead body. How is it that the fraccions had better fights than the Espada?
Honestly, I always found this fight to be more like comic relief than anything. It was as if Ichigo's fight with Ulquiorra was too dark and intense, so Kudo threw this fight in to lighten the mood. Personality, I would have loved to see Chad fight here. Not only giving him more screen time, but allowing him to explore the powers he just unlocked when he got there and make up for his embarrassing encounter with Nnoitra.
I think Kenpachi could feel that Nnoitra enjoys battle, Ichigo wasn't how he was when he fought him, Yammy doesn't enjoy battle and so that is why he calls Yammy a bore. Kenpachi generally enjoys opponents who enjoy battle.
It's prob because it was a 1v2 that zaraki hates. Zaraki had fought people who hated fighting before and all he cared about was whether they were strong or not(tosen and kommomura).
@@ghhbpolo He fought Gremmy, Gerard, and Nnoitra liked battle but Yammy wasn’t like them, even with Grimmjow, he also likes battle and Kenpachi is interested in fighting him.
@@0eyes zaraki expresses against kommomura and tosen that all he cares about us them giving him a good fight. He doesn't care about their passion for battle at all, evident clearly in ichigo and byakuya.
@@ghhbpolo Ichigo does kind of care for battle, kind of the reason he uses Kenpachi in his mind. Its not a requirement as I say he generally enjoys fighting those who like battle, Byakuya is one of the only characters that stand out in Kenpachi's "strong" interest.
@0eyes zarakis in his mind because he's made connections with him. That's all. Ichigo fights to protect his friends but doesn't find enjoyment from it.
I'm going to go on a bit of a limb and defend Yammi. I think that the whole thing in the last panel when Yammi is dieing alludes to the fact that his anger wasnt actual, proper rage, but that Ulquiorra's death affected him more than the proud idiot would ever admit. Ira can also mean rage, wrath... had Kubo put a bit more effort I think this would have been fantastic. If I was the mangaka I would made Yammi go through three 'evolutionary stages' of anger; the anger of an insect (since he looks kind of like an centipede in the beginning), then the rage of a primate and lastly the wrath of a human. In the last stage I would have pulled off a Frieza and make him about as tall as Kenpachi but a bit bulkier. Just my simple take on it.
This one was spectacular initially only to be totally worfed at the end. The two captains fighting each other in the aftermath to slate their egos certainly happened even if someone as disciplined and rule following as Byakuya would likely never consider it unless ordered by a higher authority.
True. Although it does make the seeing the Captains actually working together to bring down a titanic enemy in the Gerard fight a nice display of growth for the Soul Reapers.
@@jrgenvellesen7800 That it does. More so with Kenpachi since he's the type who prefers to dice up strong opponents lone wolf, no help needed or wanted. On a separate note it's interesting to see how Unohana actually let Mosqueda go, according to Kubo's Klub Outside he now leads a religion that worships Barragan as a god. Then again this is angelic healer Unohana.
@@manuelacosta9463 That Mosqueda bit was definitely an interesting bit of lore. It does illustrate how Barragan's self-cultivated image as the God-King of Hueco Mundo, will continue to live on even after his death. Another rather wholesome Klub Outside fact is Kubo stating that Kukkapuro is alive and well after the Quincy Invasion, since Kubo could not imagine killing off a dog after he himself became a dog owner.
@@jrgenvellesen7800 Yes. In Nestle to Night, set in the aftermath of the Aizen war, Harribel's Fraccion Apacci actually tried to take him to safety fearing other Hollows may devour him but he insisted on staying with his master. Apacci was the only one to spare him a look back as the group returned to Las Noches.
@@manuelacosta9463 Indeed. It was a moment that showed how Harribel and her Fraccion are some of the kindest Hollows. The reveal that Harribel has a soft spot for kids and is shown to be happy seeing the Picero playing in CFYOW, is very wholesome.
As I think about Yammy, I would compare him to Gerard Valkyrie if Yammy wasnt so disappointing. Imagine him being a much more imposing challenge for our main characters
An interesting what-if to dive into would be if Chad wasn't one-shotted by Nnoritora and played a more active role in (or was the key player in) his defeat and how it would impact his character growth and overall power going forward.
The first time I saw the conclusion of this fight in the anime, I thought I zoned out and missed something. I replayed the episode, AND rewatched the episode before it. I'm still shocked how chad and uryu got full-on multi episode long fights with minor arrancar, but the "most powerful" espada got nothing.
I'm don't think they fought each other. Because Yammy didn't just get bigger he actually transformed again he looked completely different than before, meaning his power skyrocketed once again enough so that he was able to fight them both at once.
I'm convinced that the whole Yammy twist was a spur of the moment idea Kubo thought of and later regreted and that's why we don't see any of this battle.
Nah, imo kubo had it planned back when he showed us yammys num. From the beginning of the hueco Mundo arc, the lower espadas were getting taken out before we got the higher ranks, but yammy was nowhere to be seen, implying there was more to his power. Kubos problem with thus is that he never saw yammys 0 espada rank as anything more than a stepping stone for zaraki. The reason yammy was offscreened imo was due to this arc being rushed. Kubo even admits that ulquiorra vs ichigo didn't go the way he wanted. Kubo prob focused more on plot points involving aizen and ichigo, which explains why the top 3 espada fights were so mediocre.
@@belial1821 bleach ch 194: "When ulquiorra tells yammy that he won't be able to defeat yoruichi and kisuke, he says "at ur current lvl". Current lvl implies yammy could get much stronger than he already was, showing the foreshadowing.
I think Yammy being the zero Espada could have worked, if it was given the proper approach. Perhaps Yammy's ability starts to grow out of his control, and he moves into the territory of a character like Broly, from Dragon Ball Z/Super. And perhaps he doesn’t actually know he's the zero Espada, but maybe we get a shot at a transformation during the fight, where the number one in his ten slowly disintegrates, giving us a "show, don't tell" way of learning.
I think the Zero Espada plot twist would’ve worked better if it was an original character instead of Yammy. Yammy wasn’t particularly liked by the fanbase to begin with and making him the Zero Espada didn’t do his character any favors.
not the whole arc, i mean he woin 2 fights before getting Ls. thats a big progression in his character considering all the previous arcs chad was involved with
Btw, Byakuya's Sokatsui isn't ridiculously huge. Just take a look at the panel when he uses it against Renji in the Soul Society arc. EDIT: Worded that slightly wrong. It's really huge yes, but it's not out of the ordinary for him.
That massive slash on Yammy’s probably was the critical hit needed to put him down for good, or he would have just kept growing and the battle would have kept going for god knows how long. I can only imagine how it would’ve looked if Yammy had become so big he would’ve had to bust out the top of the dome to stand up.
Great reflection on the last Hueco Mundo fight! I had a video idea that I would love your opinion on; what would happen if Ywatch had returned and tried making his move before Orihime got captured? When SS and Aizen's forces were at their full capacity? It's ran around in my head for a few weeks and would like to hear your take on it. Keep up the amazing work!
I was thinking his ape form was some sort of enhanced release like we have seen before but now im wondering if it actually was a true second release given that his wounds healed
The part of Ichigo going "I'll just take you down with raw power" is pretty cool. Not only do you get a new mask, it conveys the feeling of resignation and disgust that Ichigo began feeling after the battle on the canopy ended. He's sick and tired of this war, so that Getsuga Tensho was thrown with frustration, like the equivalent of punching a wall in anger.
You can't be right. Kenpachi and Byukuya didn't want to admit they had to go all out and finish the opponent TOGETHER. At least Kenpachi would boast that he fought Kuchiki, yet he was in sober mood.
All day! He’s 10x stronger than their first encounter and has suitable backup with a BANKAI! Maybe something each of them learned from their previous battles
37:39 so while it’s something I would never do (me raising my voice is more than enough) this art always reminds me of someone hitting a dog with a newspaper, it’s just one of them things I can’t unsee.
I completely believe the original idea for Yammy was transfered to Gerard once editorial told Kubo to wrap it up. Like Yammy even clearly transforms and gets bigger.
Just started the video but I think it’s Ulquiorra. His first resurrection already dwarfed Ichigo’s bankai, and then to have a second resurrection on top of that is insane! The fact that yammy got off screened by the 4th and 5th strongest captains is just wild to me.
Depend if we talk about the elite 4 before , after the auswhallen or after the power up they got from yuha fusion with the soul king . Before the auswhallen stark destroy them ! After the auswhallen stark destroy them ! After the power up they got from yuha fusion with the soul king it would require a case by case basis but he ain't losing to askin .
@@notforyou2893starrk gets slapped by every elite sternritter after aushwalen. His deathdealing could hold kisuke yoruichi and ichigo down even while he was suppressing it.
@@ghhbpolo I think it's safe to assume Lille is either number 1 or 2 as far as power is concerned in the elite 4 quincies ! The combined effort of Kyoraku and Nanao were enough to get rid of Lille ! Kyuoraku used everything Shikai Bankai and Nanao came in clucht with her sword thing ! The combined effort of Kyoraku Ukitake Rose and Lover were enough to get rid of Stark ! No bankai were used here that is because Kyoraku and Rose bankai would also affect their allies ! What is more Kyoraku wanted to use his bankai but Ukitake stopped him from doing so ! So how can you said in good faith Askin would beat Stark when the group of people who defeated Stark were stronger or at least relative to the group that defeated Lille !? Lille being stronger than Askin make it that Stark is stronger than Askin by comparaison ! Also Grimjow the number 6 Espada was able to one shot Askin with one attack from behind . I don't think i need to remind you of the humongus gap in power between the number 6 and the number 1 Espada !
@notforyou2893 comparing lille to starrk by comparing the opponents that fought is misinformation. Starrk NEVER fought the opponents he did all at once. In fact, he honestly never had any trouble until kyoraku stabbed him from behind, so u can't say that the other 3 had any effect on starrk losing. The databooks confirm that the only time starrk took it seriously was in the final confrontation with kyoraku. And before u say shunsui needed to stab starrk from behind, starrk stabbed shunsui from behind when eonderweiss arrived as well. For lille, nanao had a direct counter against lille, so u can't just call it just "shunsui and nanaos power". Also shunsuis bankai would solo any of the fighters starrk fought even all at once, so u can't even compare the lbl of power starrk fought to lille. Kaname could one shot tosen with a sneak attack despite being obe shotted by a weaker tosen beforehand. Sneak attacks don't apply to overall power and grimmjow is much stronger than when he was the 6th espada.
I don't think Ichigo was confident when he said "I'll finish him up quick" or something like that, imo he was pissed and tired of all the bullshit plus he literally just died and came back.... but that's just my take
Must have been a deep scar that Yammy received true the torso. I think story Wish Stark would have been a better character to to survive rather then Grimmjow of the Espada.
Yammy really leaned into being the Nappa to Ulquiorra's Vegeta. Right down to becoming a Great Ape like a saiyan. I think we can have our cake and eat it too. Kisuke, Yoruichi, and Ichigo's core group could work as a team (the Karakura gang all together) and take down Yammy's first form. Kisuke and Yoruichi then leave to help against Aizen. The other captains staying behind to ensure no hollows reinforce Aizen. Only, Yammy gets back up and transforms, but instead of being outright stronger, this is more like his final charge before the end. Kenpachi, Byakuya, and Mayuri not at all happy at being the clean-up crew, but remaining behind regardless because even if Yammy is a dead man walking, they still can't have him reaching Fake Karakura Town and obliterating it in his final moments.
Could an Arrancar utilize an actual Zanpakuto much like how a Vizard (or rather a 'true' or 'advanced' Vizard like Tozen) can use a cero and resurrection?
Yeah I agree, it felt like a fan service fight, two of Ichigo's big ops in Soul Society teaming up As you said this should've been a smaller character fight moment with Chad getting power up and pay off him pulling reiryoku from the sand
oh yeah,been waiting for this one,we need more attention to ichigo's 2nd mask or that version of character i love it.Would love if Klab could make it as a character TAKE MY MONEY
The Karakura gang vs Yammy would've been good. I also always thought it should've been Unohana. Have Yammy wipe out every single person, Ichigo doesn't really want to leave, Unohana tells him to go and take Isane, and she'll deal with Yammy.
"I wasn't running away, I wanted to move away from my friends. When I SMASH you with all my power"❤. The yami fight in waco Mundo has my favorite mask reveal
I want to think Mayuri helped in the end because strength alone wouldn't cut it and Byukuya and Zaraki were somewhat afraid of Yammy's second transformation.
Ok a very strange explanation I came up with but... since Yammy is theorized to be an Adjuchas, could his rage have pushed him so far that, even after being turned into an Arancar and Espanda, he had evolved into a Vasto Lorde by the end? Because of his Resurrection that is supposed to make him look closer to his original hollow form, maybe his Vasto Lorde form would have looked close to a giant gorilla of sorts. Far fetched theory, I know. But considering we know it's not a Segunda Etapa... it only makes sense to me that he evolved during the fight. Especially if rage makes him more poweful. His body would need to adapt to said power. Just my thoughts on it
My thought was that he's an artificial hollow made by aizen. The numbers r a thing made by aizen. That's why when arrancars release into their release state, their original form, they disappear. But yammys num stays. From an audience perspective, it's to show yammy gets stronger, but from a within story perspective, it would make sense to say that yammys whole existence was made via tge hokyoku by aizen.
If I had a nickel for every time Kubo designed a big muscular black man who turns into a giant gorilla and can cause shockwaves by yelling and got cut down by Kenpachi, I’d have 2 nickels which isn’t a lot but it’s strange it’s happened twice.
I stopped questioning why it was kucki fighting for ichigo when I heard him say you are a enemy of ichigo and all his enemies must die like a min after he said it I thought back to this and said ahhhhhhh OK then I get it
I like to think the reason why Yami is always there when Ichigo's mask is on the fritz, its because he kinda was the first one to show Ichigo that even with the power he gained he couldn't protect his friends, cause remember Ulquiorra didn't attack anyone at first Yami did
Ichigo's friends taking out Yammy if he only remained as nr. 10 would be cool indeed. If I could have my way, I'd want Yammy to face off against Kommamura. Their abilities are a good match. And though we don't know how accurate it is, Tousen said he was stronger than all the espada. So taking into account how long Kommamura was able to hold out against Tousen, him defeating Yammy isn't that far fetched, I think. Particularly if Yammy hasn't saved up as much reiatsu
I'm in such strong agreement, and I'd actually take it even further. Orihime, Chad, Uryu and Renji never got a real win all arc, and Kubo already likely knew he'd be following this arc with Fullbring and Quincy stories. This could've been a great opportunity to tackle so many things at once: 1. Tammy's fight should've been vs Chad, Uryu, and Orihime. While Yammy got stronger, Chad could've as well, by connecting his Fullbring to being boosted by taking blows from Hollows or in Hueco Mundo. He also could have gotten payback for earlier. This would've been a great time for Uryu's anti-Hollow Quincy magic to get more shine, as well. And the finally free Orihime could do her part to finally stand up for herself in "her" arc. Also, this fight would be them all clearing the way for Ichigo to go back to (Fake) Karakura Town, basically saying "We can do this, go save our home." 2. Rudbornne/Rudobon should've had a feature fight against Renji and Rukia. Rukia's freezing could still provide great support, but Renji should've gotten the win since she already had a major and personal one. The captains could've had this same stupid clash between each other somewhere else.
Yammy is really unfortunate. I am quite the fan of his design, but that is his downfall in the end. I feel like its basically a rule in most shonen that every big, bulky, strong looking guy has to be fodder to show off how cool the other characters are. Like, it feels so antithetical, but every time you see one of these guys turn into some giant monster, you know that means they're just going to get wrecked.
56:30 so I think that’s what pritty much everyone thinks isn’t it? As for Yammy I think it’s a case of him having the power to be the 0 Espada but he has no skill for it so it’s just wasted power, that’s why he is numbered 10 he was essentially an experiment that went wrong but was still useful as a hammer. All the other Espada could run rings around him because of their skill and tactical knowledge, powers great for dealing with trash but once you hit stuff that’s about the same level as you you need more than just hitting it hard till it stops moving.
What if Yammy was hinted at and scurrying around Hueco Mundo. Devouring the bodies of the deceased Espada that remained then pops up at the end showing as the strongest from absorbing their power.
@babaG819 ye it's like. The rest of the Espada die . Therefore he's the highest ranked Espada. Lol. He was allways 0. It's just 0 is the only one left. Lmao
I don't know whether to like this or dislike because it's realistic and scary as Heck. Like no low I just had an apocalyptic dream about this subject like 2 weeks ago... sigh it's not really an if, but just when it will happen
Honestly, it seemed to me the Espada were created to fight the Stern Ritter as Aizen would be able to see them or caught one with his Zanpakuto and then walked around their shadow city, untouched, like he was trying to stop Yhwach from Reverting the World more than have the Espada face the Shinigami