ICOC Series: Can the ICOC Change? 

I really appreciate your video. I remember African American women members being told constantly that they were too worldly for wanting to do braids and nails or from wearing their hats and dresses from when they used to go to COGIC, etc. But the one that really sticks out to me was a lady who did a song as a "special." She was very soulful and put her heart into it. She was holding notes and belting so hard that her body would contort. I thought it was beautiful, so I was completely clueless when she was told she could never go onstage again because her performance was too self-focused, and it was about her own personal glory. They were completely tone deaf and seemingly unaware of different singing styles. (Though I know now it was just racist and I was too generous at the time in thinking they were ignorant.) I was grossed out. She ended up leaving shortly after that. I wish I'd had her backbone. I was in it a long time after.

I haven't seen, heard, or read one apology from any leader ever to the thousands who claim to have left hurt. That's a good indication that they won't changed and haven't changed. They still can't admit they're wrong or have done any harm.

Their was no holy spirit in church of Christ,controling conditions! Was baptise after i left and forgive all the people,that hurt me ,and was save by grâce of god! because they don't love you , juste contrôl And i'm save by grâce not by m'y work ! Thanks Jésus!

Thanks for sharing. Another great video.

10 years later since the letter. It has brought some good but still have a long way to go. I know of a couple of lcoc churches that still love to admonish. One of them were not understanding and graceful with disciples that had mental health issues. The young are teaching the old. Lots of conditional love. Also they treated the church like a business. What's best for Church Business. Esp among the Men

Cults don’t ever change at all.I was in the church when the letter was out.I walked out in 04 and didn’t ever look back

Also The book of Proverbs talks about being overrightous and over wise. My twenty something year being involved with the church, they never shared this. Only concern about the "Mission".

I don't think it will ever truly change. I fell away(walked away) in 2009 and i didnt see any significant changes in the Joburg church.

No it's not likely to change on a systemic level. It would be extremely difficult to change as a whole... You tried to changing it as an individual, Henry Kreite tried to change it as an individual with authority and power within the church, the movements leadership group tried to change it by pulling Kip out of a leadership position and as a result the church fractured but did not change as a whole. Now people within the church can change; which might help individual churches but won't affect the culture of the church as a whole...that ship has sailed.

Love the Boston church. The teaching and preaching changed my life and continues to do so. I have friends of all races and backgrounds. I’ve been part of Boston church since 1987. It’s here that I learned to walk with God. Sorry that you and many had a bad experience. I hope healing comes to you and the others. Of course, we’re not the only church - but we are the church. You need a little help with your God complex. ‘They weren’t disciples?’ Who died and made you, Jesus?

I was a member for 18 years and I'm still suffering from PTSD and a mild case of Stockholm Syndrome because of the spiritual abuse perpetrated on me by members of the ICOC and dare I say from the ICC. And after quitting the ICOC two years ago, I don't wish this the changes I went through because of them on my worst enemy and not even on Kip McKean and the founding fathers of both the ICOC and ICC. So, the answer is "No" they won't change unless they do more for people like me with mental illnesses and not go and recruit fools without friends and not give a false sense of family to those who suffer from past traumas.

Travel land and sea to convert a single convert and make them twice as much a son of hell

In other words the ICOC IS A BUNCH OF CROCK & BS