Ikea Hobo Stove VS Lixada Wood Gas Stove 

Thank you for your kind words. Funny thing is I did not feel it was a clean a presentation as I had hoped. Glad it was watchable. Thanks for commenting

Actually, I take the chips from the beavers as they work on a tree. Tricky business. They can be really protective of their chips😆. Thanks for commenting John

pay them with poutine and they'll gnaw away so hard that a rooster tail of wood chips will fly

@@MarkYoungBushcraft Yes, i do the same thing 😆

Great story. Glad I was of help. So you didn't find the fire too hot to cook the hot dogs over? Thanks for commenting

We used sticks to hold them above the flame......Worked great.

Glad you enjoyed the video. More of this type of video on the way. Thanks for commenting

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Glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for commenting Terry

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I am still very amateur at film making and know my videos are quite long so I try not to wast my viewers time. Thanks for commenting

@@MarkYoungBushcraft I have been watching a lot of stove reviews over the past few days, and keep finding myself thinking, 'get on with it man'. Your videos are not the shortest, but you pack in a lot of useful information in the time. I have been happy to watch more of your videos today.

Addendum. Unlike other reviewers, you also know how to pack the fuel into the stoves.

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Right on. I agree, after the initial load of wood burns through I just sit and feed it a bit at a time. Often, my first full load is all I need unless doing a lot of cooking. Thanks for commenting

My dad is gone 30 years and I still miss him. Thanks for commenting

I am doing great. Will be back to making videos soon. Glad you found the video inspiring. Thanks for commenting

I like the way you think. That is how I got most of my gear...as presents. Thanks for commenting

Right on. Great mod. I have a newer video where I turned the Ikea hobo into a rocket stove if you are interested. Thanks from New Scotland😉

I agree totally, Pretty much why I wanted to start the series with this stove. Thanks for commenting

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The Solo Campfire looks like a great stove. If I can get my hands on one I would love to add it to my list of videos. Thanks for commenting

LOL...I don't know bill...still so much to learn

The charcoal lighter is like a volcano when it comes to heat. I think I could use it as a forge. Fortunately, the Ikea does not get anywhere as hot. Thanks for commenting

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I have not mentioned the value of using the Ikea as space heater yet but with charcoal it would be amazing I am sure. Thanks for commenting

Hi Jeff. Watched you videos way back. Thanks for commenting

I expect the Tomshoo stove is identical. I have a few Tomshoo items and the quality is equal to Lixada and other Chinese brands. Enjoy your DIY projects. They can be fun and a bit addictive. Thanks for commenting

Very interesting idea about using a strainer as a JetBoil style set up. I just picked up two of the taller strainers but have not made anything from them yet. Your idea gives me inspiration. Thanks for commenting

I didn't mention the main difference with mine is that I use 3 65x65 mm right angle brackets as feet for greater stability. They are attached with 1/4 inch bolts through the bottom holes.

Glad you liked the video. I am trying out a few different easy mods to see if I can improve on the performance of the Ikea without adding a lot of weight. Thanks for commenting

The Solo set up is sweet. I have it as well and will be comparing it with a news stove I have not shown yet. Is the Zebra pot the 14cm? I don't have that size but I understand the Lixada will fit inside. Thanks for commenting

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Glad you are having fun with the Ikea. I am getting ready to make an update video with my latest modifications. Thanks for commenting

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Hey Wade. I am hoping people find these comparisons helpful. I get a good number of questions along these lines. Thanks for commenting

Great. Glad you found the video helpful

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I watched your video and subbed your channel. Looking forward to great things

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Hard to go wrong with the Ikea. Thanks for commenting

Hard to beat the Ikea. That's the reason I stated with it. The heat generation is a con to some people who see it as wasted energy. It is appreciated in winter of course. Thanks for commenting John

I agree with the limitations on wood gas stoves. I have a video where I talk about that very issue. I also have a video on the vegetable steamer as a stove and will include it in these test videos at some point. Thanks for commenting

Mark Young I have absolutely no idea how I overlooked your earlier videos using the veg steamer!! Just watched them both ... excellent as always. And I agree with your comments. For me it’s all about fun ... and the veg steamer setup is just more fun than the various twig stoves that are available. Best wishes!

Interesting idea. I will consider it. Thanks for commenting

I agree. It is light weight, compact and efficient. especially for the money. Thanks for commenting

Hey Bruce. Yes I had the wrong link in the description. It is fixed now. Great suggestion for a future video. I will see what I can come up with. Thanks for commenting

I have seen at least 5 or 6 different brandings of the same stove. They are all close copies of the Sliverfire Scout. There are a few that are larger so make sure you have the right size if you plan on carrying it in the MSR 775ml pot. Hope this helps. Thanks for commenting

I had not thought of that comparison. I will add it to my list. Thanks for commenting

I agree. It is still the best bang for buck out there. Thanks for commenting

@@MarkYoungBushcraft so True

Great timing. I am working on exactly that right now. Hope to have it ready in a couple of weeks. Stay tuned

Solo Campfire is a cool looking stove. Would love to try it out. I may have to start using my alcohol stoves as we are entering fire ban season. Thanks for commenting

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Glad you liked the video. The pot is one I picked up at a local thrift store for very little money. I felt it matched the idea of a DIY combination. Your firestarters sound great. Thanks for commenting

Thank you for your kind words...No broadcasting but I have done a fair amount of teaching and presenting over the years

Right on. I agree both the pellets and the alcohol stoves work great. Especially when all the wood around is wet or I just want my coffee now. Thanks for commenting

I make my own. I have a video on how to make them if interested. Thanks for commenting

Interesting comparison. I had not thought of that combination. I will see what I can do. Thanks for commenting

@@MarkYoungBushcraft Thank you!

Great suggestion. I have the small version of the UCO Flatpack stove. I have to test it out some more but will be sure to compare it at some point. Thanks for commenting

There are a good number of variations for this stove. I have tried little sticks up to one large piece split into four (Swedish Fire Log). All work a bit differently. Thanks for commenting

I would love to own the Silverfire Scout but the price is out of my budget. It is the reason I ended up with the Lixada. The Drogon pot looks great as well. Would love to test that out. I do have the Firebox and will be comparing that with a few stoves. Glad you like using the pellets. Thanks for commenting

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Right on. It is all about finding the right combination. Thanks for commenting

I have found a few other piece together wood gas stoves but they are not common. Look for the Core Reactor 5 wood stove. It has a wood gas element to it and is made in titanium. Looks rather complex but still interesting. Thanks for commenting

oh...and I just remembered. Toaks has a titanium wood gas stove..hmm...wonder if I can justify buying that one

Mark Young Thank you for your response, for all your great videos and for letting me know about the Toaks stove. After checking I found there’re two sizes and both are much lighter than the Lixada. How have I missed this? Lol As far as justification for getting another stove I have a couple of suggestions for you: I have a “fun fund” (just for more costly things I’ve found I believe I’d like) that I budget for each week. Delayed gratification is a good thing. Another option for you, due to having a RU-vid channel, is to contact Toaks for a sample to review. I may not have suggested anything new to you but I hope I’ve helped. I know you’ve helped me.

I failed to mention the small bowl probably because I am not a big fan of hexamine tablets. I have used the bowl with gel alcohol and that works okay. You are right on about the stove fitting in the 14cm Zebra. It will also fit inside the Pathfinder Bush Pot and the Three-Dog Stove Mors Pot. I have the Solo Titan & 1800ml pot and the Lixada fits in that pot as well. I have a video where I talk about this versatility of the stove. Thanks for commenting

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Interesting idea. I have not played with can based stoves in a long while. I'll see what I can come up with. Thanks for commenting

What you say is right on. About the only thing I can pack inside the current setup is an alcohol stove. Now, if you carry a larger pot like the 14cm Zebra, the Lixada will fit inside with space to spare. Then it becomes more reasonable. Thanks for commenting

I have loaded the Ikea as tightly as I could and found it is more difficult to get the burn going as air flow is reduced. There is a balance as to how much wood to use. In truth, the Ikea has too much airflow from all sides causing it to burn very quick and very hot. I am experimenting with simple ways to slow the burn with the hope of making it more efficient. Thanks for commenting

I think I could add that to the list. Thanks for commenting

I use both bottom lit as well as top lit. The advantage of top lit is that I can fill the stove before I begin and let it burn through. The advantage of bottom lit is I can put in as much or as little as I want to control the flame. Both work. Thanks for commenting

All good points to think about. Thanks for commenting

You read my mind. I realized I forgot about the alcohol stove after I released the video so I made a follow-up. Thanks for commenting

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thanks for d reply ur still active, regards to ur lady of d hauz canadian boy.

Pellets are great. Thanks Jim

I agree totally with you. We have a good amount of wet windy days that make using either of these stoves a challenge. I also agree that the Firebox is easier to use in these conditions. I find the Firebox the best stove for winter time where wood is often wet and frozen. I will talk about that point when I compare the Firebox. Thanks for commenting

And then I recently bought a Firebox nano. Still trying to find out how to get it to work in my environment; so far it bevaves like a woodgas stove - making my presence known, visually.

I think digging a hole in the ground or using a windscreen plus use of firestarter will solve your problem. And perhaps much smaller diameter wood, which even if damp quickly dries when adjacent to the lit firestarter.

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Hello and thank you for watching my videos and commenting. You make many excellent points regarding the proper role of woodgas stoves. I am intrigued with your comment on using charcoal. Are you saying the heat generated is higher than with wood and is the cause of the metal failure? At some point I would very much like to test and review a SilverFire Scout as well as one of the Rocket Stoves. By the way, I did end up melting the aluminum crossbars and have since been using bars made from stainless steel rulers.

@@MarkYoungBushcraft Yes Mark. Charcoal and coal are not designed for these stoves due to premature combustion chamber failure (all stove metal fails over time and charcoal and coal accelerate it). Cast iron fails first, followed by mild steel, followed by stainless steel in stove construction. Refractory stainless steel ensures longer stove life, however, the cost is significantly higher. The rocket stove and wood gas stoves were designed for biomass to reduce illegal charcoal production since charcoal produces tremendous amounts of methane (40 times worse than CO2) during production and is released a 2nd time when cooking. Charcoal production is linked to deforestation and erosion, however, due to lack of jobs, illegal charcoal production continues globally. In the 3rd world, during night time illegal charcoal production under tarps folks cut down the entire tree and the yield of charcoal fuel is only 30%. In locations where solid fuel is required to sanitize every drop of water they drink to stay alive and cook, the small biomass scrub they are stepping on at night sneaking around to make illegal charcoal was viable to cook with, without cutting down entire trees. That's why the rocket stove and wood gas biomass stoves were developed. The design outcome was to minimize fuel use, emissions, and maximize heat transfer into the cooking vessels. In an emergency or to sanitize water take a Weber charcoal grill and place a large volume of water (5 liters or greater) and place it on the grill. Even though the temperature of the fire on the grate below the grill is hotter than the wood fire, the pot will never come to a boil due to lack of heat transfer. The rocket stove was designed to maximize heat transfer with low mass insulation (key design and heat transfer principle) and force the flames lick the pot (increasing surface area and maintain velocity, allowing just a few pencil-sized diameter twigs to accomplish this benchmark. What has confused reviewers and consumers is unscrupulous marketers of stoves like EcoZoom who have promoted the Versa stove (it was the StoveTec 2 door stove sold with a charcoal grate) as a duel use wood and charcoal burning stove design hijacked from StoveTec by EcoZoom MBA's to promote dual fuel use. The stove was designed by Damon Ogle, not EcoZoom. The actual intent of this stove design was to teach uneducated folks that primarily only cooked with charcoal, was to teach them how to use biomass to prevent the extensive environmental damage and pollution caused by charcoal production. There is no significant difference between the wood gas stove designs in terms of gasification and performance outside a lab setting. The real differences are the pot support designs and type of stainless steel used in these low-cost uninsulated trekking stoves. The Solo beat us to the market by a few months while we finished our rocket stove design and introduced the feed slot in their fixed combustion chamber design with refractory wire for a grate. The design did not allow enough depth for adequate fuel volume and had to be fed continuously. That top slot was then copied by other Chinese wood gas stove makers, however, it decreased heat transfer by increasing distance to the cooking vessel. The feed slot is not required in modular wood gas stoves, since the design allows 3 - 4 times more fuel than the original Solo model for on the go trekking stove use. The Solo Titan was introduced due to the fuel limitations of the original model most would assume. The small modular wood gas stoves were never designed for long-duration cooking is the point. Larger insulated wood gas and insulated rocket stove options are available for those tasks. Unfortunately, we are the only modular wood gas stove design using a protective ash & ember plate below the stove which reflects more heat transfer into the combustion chamber and catches live embers increasing safety during use. It is an important design feature. Stoves without ash pans significantly increase the chance for forest fires. Good cooking! SilverFire Stoves & Cookware.

@@SilverFireStoves Wow. Thank you Todd for your very detailed and informative response. I am truly interested in learning more about stove design and the knowledge you have shared has helped tremendously. Are their publicly available books or other documents that I would be able to access to further my learning? My hope is to be able to purchase of one or more of your stoves so I can test and review them

​@@MarkYoungBushcraft There are numerous important resources available. Here is an early beginning paper that resulted in a book to refer to on this subject. Copy & paste this link: blog.newdawnengineering.com/website/library/Papers+Articles/Biomass%20Stoves,%20Engineering%20Design,%20Development%20and%20Dissemination,%20Samuel%20Baldwin%201987.pdf Ironically Big Oil funded lots of published work in the stove sector where important humanitarian work started, followed by oil participation, carbon credits, political mischief, payoffs, and stoves dissemination benefited politicians in exchange for oil extraction across the globe. Unfortunately, the folks at the bottom of the pyramid continue to suffer from low-quality stoves designs and indoor air pollution and environmental degradation, while folks at the top of the pyramid have benefitted greatly. You are entering into an arena of special interests, corruption, and political chaos that continues today.

Yep, the link just brings me back to this video.

I fixed the link and have released the video today. I have the Firebox 5: but only the smaller Bushbox LF. If IO can get my hands on an XL that is two stoves I have long wanted to compare. Thanks for commenting

I have been experimenting with that idea but if you watch my latest video I am not sure it would result in true gassification. Thanks for commenting

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I agree with your observations. Hard to find the prefect stove that works well with all types of wood. I often carry wood pellets for the wood gas stove for when I can't find dry wood. They works amazing. Thanks for commenting

I can't say what is sold in Europe but since Ikea is in Sweden I would assume they have all the variations. Thanks for commenting

Absolutely. Not a combo I had thought of but will definitely add it to the list. Thanks for commenting

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是的，它在右边的炉子上确实要花更多的钱。 这个想法是为了证明右边的火炉是否值得额外的钱。 谢谢你的评论

Thank you for your suggestions

RIZE 2012 how’d you do that??

@@swassige I cut steel coffee container to fit in the inside of the stove, the with enough space for for the bottom to get air.drilled holes to match the top of stove. I use tent pegs to hold up my Stanley adventure cup. My feed pot is also located more towards the top as oppossed to the bottom. The feet are picture frame stabilizers. This is heavily modified, compared to what everyone else is doing.

I have been considering how to do that very thing. I will take a look at your idea. Do you happen to have a video? Thanks for commenting

@@MarkYoungBushcraft Sorry, I have no video for it. It was just an experiment. It has increased performance though.

I also forgot to say I put a cat food can at the bottom to catch the ashes. The can has slits all around to it. Little to no Ash.

Just so I understand, you are asking me to test homemade alcohol stoves in these two wood stoves?

You may well be correct. Using the same amount of wood was an attempt to even out the variables between the two stoves. In reality, the Ikea hobo stove has so much more volume had I loaded it to the max it may have slowed the initial burn down some and would likely have lasted much longer than the Lixada. In my more recent tests I load out the stoves to their max to give a better idea of capability. I also have videos on both stoves individually for even more information on the individual stoves. Thanks for commenting

If you read the note on the screen you will see the 14oz refers to the stove weight without the MSR pot

@@MarkYoungBushcraft Well I'm glad your not doing new math :-)

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