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Illegal Government Contracting Passthrough Schemes | Make Sure You Don't Do This 

Derek James
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Комментарии : 72   
@jasongoodman3546
@jasongoodman3546 3 года назад
I completed the whole playlist. Right on. Thank you 8Mile!
@JimiCrack216
@JimiCrack216 Год назад
I’m terms of subcontracting. And by that I mean, subbing out 100% of the work as a middleman / pass through… My understanding is that, as long as the contract of for $150k or less, OR the business that you are subbing out the work to is similarly situated - meaning they’re a small, woman owned, or hub zone business - that you can sub out 100% regardless of dollar amount. Please provide some clarification to this. Thank you very much.
@brandonwells1307
@brandonwells1307 Год назад
I thought I read the same thing
@BradleyReynoldsTrades
@BradleyReynoldsTrades 9 месяцев назад
Derek Please respond if you see this it's a very important question. From my understanding of what you said you can sub out 100% under 250k. SO if my business makes less the 47 million revenue per year I am a small business? Thank you for always responding
@ryanrodriguez70
@ryanrodriguez70 3 года назад
So good. Thank you so much for posting this video.
@hitsectionlath3939
@hitsectionlath3939 Год назад
can you do a video example on how the middleman strategy applies to product contracts vs service contracts and the regulations that apply to product contracts ..or any info you have regarding this subject would be helpful please i would appreciate it greatly !!
@Victoria2K
@Victoria2K 2 года назад
Thank you for the video!
@ryanrodriguez70
@ryanrodriguez70 3 года назад
Amazing. Thank you so much for this video. Also thanks to coprince
@antcaruso3465
@antcaruso3465 Год назад
Derek, great info. Question, does this apply when buying goods from a third party and selling to the government? Acquisitions
@philipkircher2848
@philipkircher2848 3 года назад
If a SDVOSB is a dealer of products made by a large business, does this mean they can not sell these products when the solicitation is set aside for SDVOSBs? Does that only apply if the order is for more than $150k?
@thesilentgiant
@thesilentgiant Год назад
Do you have any videos where you discuss net 0 - Net 30s?
@kingsj7662
@kingsj7662 Год назад
So as long as each contract is under $150k we can be the middle man with no issues. This is great to know
@josephcelestine1945
@josephcelestine1945 11 месяцев назад
Not just businesses under $150K, if you subcontract to a similarly situated business, you can also be the middleman with no issues. Remember, the Govt wants to ensure that this money ends up with small businesses similarly situated within their set-aside. The $150K threshold is because not that much money will go to big business, as the SBA understands most subcontracting limitations.
@BradleyReynoldsTrades
@BradleyReynoldsTrades 9 месяцев назад
So a small business that makes under 47 mill per year must sub to another similar or an 8a, hubzone etc.@@josephcelestine1945
@805uploadz
@805uploadz 3 года назад
Good Video.
@jeffg6924
@jeffg6924 3 года назад
Thanks for the video, Derek. Having spoken with other companies, they know they are fully certified and continue with their proposals. I know its confusing and the check-box in SAM may give these entities the feeling they are certified. I feel for these companies that are submitting proposals without knowing the required process, but have no sympathies for people knowingly committing fraud.
@GovKidMethod
@GovKidMethod 3 года назад
100% agree. The worst part is that companies like yours are getting screwed over on the deal. All you can do is protest but that’s not a popular option for some.
@jonathanjohnson5216
@jonathanjohnson5216 Год назад
That is STILL a lot of 💰💡📝
@josephcelestine1945
@josephcelestine1945 11 месяцев назад
Sam doesn't give entities the feeling they are certified. SAM enables you to self-certify. By “self-certifying” and completing solicitation clauses related to your organization’s socio-economic characteristics and size, you certify that your business information is accurate. So, whether anyone is submitting proposals without knowing the required process, is neither here nor there, as the rules and regulations for 'self-certifying' are clearly laid out. The law doesn't have any feelings for those that knowingly commit fraud, hence the penalties that are imposed when those that commit fraud, do so.
@theblueeyedkilla9221
@theblueeyedkilla9221 3 года назад
So if we wanted to give 100% of the work to another similarly situated entity we could do that?
@Literally_Me8
@Literally_Me8 4 месяца назад
What is the absolute source of truth for determining if the organization you are subcontracting with is what they say they are? Do subs have to have a UEI? Thanks!
@topmeoff
@topmeoff 11 месяцев назад
if im a small business and i sub out to another small business, regardless of total contract value, limitations to subcontracting do not apply, correct?
@zacharisatosha7108
@zacharisatosha7108 3 года назад
Hey Derek, thank you for the value! VERY NEW. Going through your videos to learn more and a question I have are you able to fulfill the needs of a contract (example masks or neck ties) from China or another country over seas and send them to the contracts desired location? So essentially just buying and shipping the products back to the USA and to the agency requesting these services? Does this violate anything? Thanks again!
@GovKidMethod
@GovKidMethod 3 года назад
If the contract is buy American then you can’t source from China
@GovKidMethod
@GovKidMethod 3 года назад
www.gao.gov/mobile/products/105519
@zacharisatosha7108
@zacharisatosha7108 3 года назад
@@GovKidMethod Thanks for the quick response man! Appreciate the link. From what I can see would this "buy american act" apply to all contracts? Or is there a section on beta sam that mentions this on the contract opportunities? Or would I have to mention to them that I am sourcing from countries outside of the U.S and they will tell me if they can still buy or not depending on there specific parameters? Sorry if this is a dumb question. As mentioned VERY NEW haha Really appreciate you and the value you are giving! Thanks Derek! :)
@GovKidMethod
@GovKidMethod 3 года назад
@@zacharisatosha7108 every solicitation has different clauses and far clauses referenced within it. You have to read the contract clauses. Sometimes it will be in there other times it’s not. That’s the only true way to get your answer.
@ernestriley2857
@ernestriley2857 2 года назад
How do you get out of an illegal past through scheme if you find yourself inadvertently in one? I'm new to contracting and I entered into a sub contract with the prime contractor.
@SmartMoneyBro
@SmartMoneyBro Год назад
Contact an attorney and they will advise you.
@K5YAC-DX
@K5YAC-DX Год назад
Watched twice and taking notes. Am I to understand that... Simplified acquisition threshold refers to contract amounts >$250k, however all award amounts have a 50% (or some fixed percentage) as a threshold for maximum sub-contract work. In other words, I can farm out work up to 50% of the job? and Similarly situated refers to 8a to 8a, or SDVO to SDVO and so on. What about SDVO to 8a, or SDVO to woman owned? Is that similarly situated, or must it be the same small biz classification? Does the 50% threshold apply here?
@GovKidMethod
@GovKidMethod Год назад
Simplified only applies to small biz contracts over the SAT (currently 250k). Similarly situated must share the same small business program. 8a to 8a. You can’t mix and match 8a to SDVOSB, that doesn’t satisfy the requirement. Remember, if the gov is trying to send money to veteran owned businesses, then the money needs to go to veteran owned businesses. That’s the reality check that will keep you compliant.
@dezmondfowler9646
@dezmondfowler9646 Год назад
If I’m 8a can I sub to women own and still not have to worry about the limitations?
@bupkisadupkis6998
@bupkisadupkis6998 Год назад
Really trying to understand this. If i operate in the SAT contract zone (and i don't quality for setasides like 8a) then pass-through is legal?
@GovKidMethod
@GovKidMethod Год назад
If the contract is under the SAT, Limitations on Subcontracting does not apply.
@onlyericcaaa
@onlyericcaaa 3 года назад
So because it’s a fixed rate is that what makes it a pass through scheme? I’m confused and it has to be a certain dollar amount for it to be legal? I’m replaying the video like 3 times so that I understand.
@GovKidMethod
@GovKidMethod 3 года назад
1) make sure it applies to you (dollar value) 2) if it does, perform the minimum percentage with your company before having a subcontractor do the whole job
@royalflush1992br
@royalflush1992br 3 года назад
Great video Derek, I pretty much understand everything you said, but the only thing that I'm still trying to figure out is. Does the company I would subcontract out to have to be a fully registered govcon company? Or is it ok just as long as I'm the one that is fully registered? I hope that makes sense 😅
@GovKidMethod
@GovKidMethod 3 года назад
Only the prime needs to be registered :)
@royalflush1992br
@royalflush1992br 3 года назад
Easy day! Thank you sir!
@Mazel_Tov_888
@Mazel_Tov_888 2 года назад
@@GovKidMethod follow up. I'm a small business registered in SAM, I team with another small business not registered in Sam, I can go above the 50 percent amount for a service business, what is the highest percentage I can allow the other sub to do? Can I do ten allowing sub to do 90?
@chocolatehotsauce1
@chocolatehotsauce1 3 года назад
Just for clarity i have seen being a consultant/or an agreement with a company that is qualified to do govcon. And if contracts are won the consultant can receive the agreed percentage (example 20% of profit). Isnt this legal as long as the consultant is hired or has agreement with qualified company?
@GovKidMethod
@GovKidMethod 3 года назад
There are no parallels between what I’m discussing in this video and being a consultant. As a consultant, the award still goes to the company, not the consultant. The regulation then applies to the company the contract was awarded to. I’m not a proponent of the “govcon consultant” model- the way it’s being used recently and it’s going to be confusing for those to navigate who don’t know what they’re doing
@chocolatehotsauce1
@chocolatehotsauce1 3 года назад
@@GovKidMethod ok i got it, main thing is the examples you gave the individuals were taking the money. Which the the funds are for the companies winning the contracts. Got it💪🏾💪🏾👍🏽👍🏽
@ptron7408
@ptron7408 3 года назад
Does this apply to state contracts ?
@GovKidMethod
@GovKidMethod 3 года назад
My content is focused on Federal contracts
@teneciabertram917
@teneciabertram917 2 года назад
What if Jerry received 50% of the money and singleton got a lower percentage of the money
@user-gt6py7qp4y
@user-gt6py7qp4y Год назад
is it considered pass through if you enter into an unincorporated joint venture? That seems like the loop hole to me.
@GovKidMethod
@GovKidMethod Год назад
It’s best to not look for loop holes. There are enough opportunities to do this legally without having to resort to other methods.
@danielmonteshernandez6226
@danielmonteshernandez6226 Год назад
Why follow the rules? I caught my mexican born aunt and uncle defrauding the United States in excess of $500M US tax dollars. They paid back $125K to the Govt, and they continue to lie and steal small business contracts, up to $17M for 2022 so far. No prison time. The case is United States vs Main Building Maintenance. Now, you know where your hard earned tax dollars are being diverted to. I told you. I wrote and approved this, the whistleblower. Daniel.
@titilopeakinyosoye770
@titilopeakinyosoye770 7 месяцев назад
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@titilopeakinyosoye770
@titilopeakinyosoye770 7 месяцев назад
Ppp
@teneciabertram917
@teneciabertram917 2 года назад
In lamest terms basically as long as your company pays 50% or more to its subcontractors then your fine 🙂? ????
@rand9861
@rand9861 Год назад
50 percent of profit?
@joeziahgonzalez2750
@joeziahgonzalez2750 Год назад
Hey man, would you be interested in working with me hands on so I can learn how to run a gov contracting business the right way?
@spongebobgirlfriend
@spongebobgirlfriend 3 года назад
So as long as the contract is under 150k I don’t have to worry about percentages or the similarly situated entity clause? And can I do however many contracts I want that way as long as they are under 150k per contract? Like is there an overall combined contracts limit? Also, I know it’s 250k now but is that just temporary because of Covid and it will go back to 150k?
@GovKidMethod
@GovKidMethod 3 года назад
If it’s under the SAT it doesn’t apply. No limit to quantity of contracts. No one knows when the SAT will change again
@goonprodigy559
@goonprodigy559 3 года назад
how can we outsource work is that legal?
@GovKidMethod
@GovKidMethod 3 года назад
Do part of it yourself
@starrhazel92
@starrhazel92 Год назад
@@GovKidMethod is managing the contract doing part of the work? Like project management?
@deethekingstevens7146
@deethekingstevens7146 Год назад
@GovKidMethod answer the question above please
@nicholasm5836
@nicholasm5836 3 года назад
Let’s say the government is asking for 5000 masks. Would it be illegal if I got a quote from a company for 5000 masks, bid on the contract, and then buy the masks so I can send them to the government to fulfill the mask contract?
@mt43409
@mt43409 2 года назад
This is called reselling, its legal.
@SmartMoneyBro
@SmartMoneyBro Год назад
No issue with this
@adamwro101
@adamwro101 Год назад
The big thing here is being certified
@GovKidMethod
@GovKidMethod Год назад
Being registered in SAM will do nothing to protect you if you are participating in an illegal pass through scheme.
@jonathanjohnson5216
@jonathanjohnson5216 7 месяцев назад
20 yrs. God🤦‍♂️🙏🏿
@jonathanjohnson5216
@jonathanjohnson5216 7 месяцев назад
📝💡🤦‍♂️🙏🏿🚨🚨
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