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@HCKTrent 4 месяца назад

As an autistic person, I have deliberately stayed away from Love on the Spectrum, cus it always gave me a sceptical feeling about it’s intention/ability to treat autistic adults with respect.

@pipwhitefeather5768 4 месяца назад

me too

@MrsMacLover 4 месяца назад

samesies

@HaakonOdinsson 4 месяца назад

There’s no respect from that programme….just piss taking

@kawag6356 4 месяца назад

Yes me too

@kawag6356 4 месяца назад

Also it feels like they pick people with more obvious characteristics and lower masking abilities, that’s bothers me because people watching it think we all have to have those obvious things to be autistic

@starfleethastanks 4 месяца назад

What we need to see in autistic representation is not just the challenges faced by us but the cruelty and callousness of NTs.

@Baptized_in_Fire. 3 месяца назад

Yes

@annabunches 4 месяца назад

Here's my shot at explaining why I like these videos: It feels great to see someone putting out stuff that feels like me and my friends talking to each other.

@kawag6356 4 месяца назад

Same but just my own thoughts, I wish I had friends sometimes

@orionkelly 4 месяца назад

I appreciate it.

@Baptized_in_Fire. 3 месяца назад

@kawag6356 we're here now m8, we hear you. Say what you need.

@stephenieolson8535 4 месяца назад

I think people like these kinds of videos because 1/2 of your autism traits aren’t edited out, and we as a community sorely lack accurate representation, so it’s just really refreshing to see ourselves in media and relate. I don’t mean to say that when you edit, you are masking, I just mean that of course when there is a planned script and editing, things inherently get cut out of the final product, and you end up with a more distilled final product.

@VoteBidentoSaveDemocracy 4 месяца назад

I don't really watch TV (I've seen an episode or two of the US series and follow one of the people from the show on RU-vid). I enjoy watching neurodivergent people get really passionate about the stuff they feel strongly about. It's very normalizing of my own feelings. ❤

@humanBonsai 4 месяца назад

Totally agree with you Orion. The whole premise is not observational but voyeuristic. That’s why they didn’t want to take on board what you said; that’s why they are not paying the cast; that’s why they dn’t want the woman who wanted to date NTs, because they are completely disingenuous and really they just want a to stage an exotic show for neurotypicals to watch so they can rake in the $$$$

@cornishmaid9138 3 месяца назад

Yep, it’s rather zoo-like in its production and presentation.

@KaylaMarie-kv2nf 4 месяца назад

I haven't seen the show...but wait...they didn't get paid!? That's freaking insane.

@tabithabasye2440 4 месяца назад

I watch the unedited videos because it’s refreshing to see someone talk, behave & sound like me. 💜 I like the edited topic videos too but it really is comforting to see you struggle to communicate, repeat yourself, etc. like I do. I am 43, only diagnosed for 4 years & I am really tired of the mask. Thank you for being real & vulnerable for us💜.

@PeterJoubert1972 4 месяца назад

I agree with you Orion. You passionately gave your opinion and I would hazard a guess and say you are not the only autistic person that feel this way. I will and have not watched the show. Watching trailers, highlights and reviews of actual autistic reviewers, I instinctively knew this was not for me. I am actually very intuitive. Autistic reviewers generally “questioned aspects such as editing choices, focusing on parental reactions and the neurotypical coaching, that preferenced neurotypical perspectives and infantalised the neurodivergent cast members.The show is also riddled with bad advice.” In my opinion this a scripted show produced by ableists for neurotypical people watching “weird people date”…. I apologise, I hate the word but that is what most NTs think. That’s my opinion.

@srldwg 4 месяца назад

I share this sentiment. I agree with all that you said comment. I did watch the whole season, and it was difficult to watch the majority of the time.

@Autisticelder 4 месяца назад

I am very intuitive and my intuition said no, but I watched it anyway because I wanted to be proven wrong, and now I am just angry at how autistic people were exploited to entertain NTS. It was absurd.

@filthism1659 4 месяца назад

Thank u for speaking about Infantilizing so sick of our community being Infantilized and our community Infantilizing there self its time for us to be treated as adults stop this nonsense please keep talking Orion

@NeurodiverJENNt 4 месяца назад

Honestly I haven't been able to watch the show because of the cringe factor of akwardness (which has nothing to do with autism). It's right up there on my discomfort factor of wedding bloopers, physical accidents, and capturing people's embarrassing moments. So, I'm not in anyone's for or against camp😂 Love watching your unmasked unedited segments.

@LlinosBelcher 4 месяца назад

I'm considering doing a vlog like this. I've recently had an episode of psychosis caused by undiagnosed ADHD and ASD. I'm 50 and only found out this year. My life has been full of trauma. I thought it was that...but...not all it seems.

@lovinglifehealth 4 месяца назад

My husband was also 50 when it became apparent.

@pipwhitefeather5768 4 месяца назад

I'm 52 and waiting an assessment - but with NHS in UK - could be years :( Hope you get clarity on your brain Llinos x (and me too)

@LlinosBelcher 4 месяца назад

Yes, thank you and you @pipwhitefeather 💜

@stephenieolson8535 4 месяца назад

I hope you do make a vlog! The autistic/ADHD experience of CPTSD/psychosis definitely needs some representation.

@LlinosBelcher 4 месяца назад

@@stephenieolson8535 it's a scary thought but I definitely think SOMEONE needs to reach out to say that we are not alone (that works as a joke as well, but that's another story) 😅

@rainbowdragonflies1134 4 месяца назад

Watching clips of this "documentary" gave me the impression that the people behind the camera view autistic people like zoo animals or pets up for adoption, which harkens back to an uncomfortable part of history where similar concepts were taken to an extreme in the name of "anthropology." However... The one thing out of that show that I feel could in fact benefit people like me is one short segment where the therapist person (forgot her name, sorry 😞) tells one of the autistic people something along the lines of "It's alright if you can't think of anything to say if there's a lull in the conversation. People will still like you even if you don't talk." As an autistic person who went through God knows how many "supportive education" classes and programs having a usually NT educator preach at me about "having good people skills, making small talk, and being sociable and friendly to keep people interested in you or you won't make or keep any friends," hearing those words not just from a therapist but an AUTISTIC therapist took such a huge weight off my shoulders. Especially considering how almost physically painful it is for me to start and hold meaningful interactions. Everything else about Love On The Spectrum can go to Hell... but I liked that one bit.

@rachelann9362 3 месяца назад

Sone of the music used sounds almost EXACTLY like the music in a cutesy “in the life of a zoo” set of chronical-style documentaries from the bbc (I think the bbc, could be wrong.) the music was used for mating attempts with various species, and clumsy newborns, I heard that music on THIS documentary when they were showing someone fumbling, and zooming in on other patrons of the restaurant, and I instantly got a HUGE ick. They literally presented the show as a zoo. Sure the team might have been pretty nice to the cast members while filming, but the editing style and presentation shows it was a disingenuous premise given to the cast members. And why are they not paid? Most participants on “competition” style shows at least have the chance of a goal at the end, even if not everyone is paid.. at least they have a potential CHANCE. also why not spread that across all the cast members if it’s not a competition? Nah, it was zoo show. It was “look at these silly autistics.. they are so clueless, laugh at their dumb mistakes.” Why else would they ZOOM in on other patrons in a restaurant? They were trying to highlight and get a laugh at it, especially with the silly, infantilizing zoo music playing.

@ToaOfFusion 4 месяца назад

I'm curious now how many Autism Speaks board members were involved in the production of Love on the Spectrum. I never watched the show but your description of how the episodes play out paint a picture of the most ableist reality TV show in recent memory.

@user-od3rl5mc 4 месяца назад

I agree. It's very reminiscent of the Jeremy Kyle show in the UK which exploited people from lower socio economic backgrounds and was only shut down after a tragedy occurred.

@donovangray4246 4 месяца назад

I truly enjoy watching you being your unmasked self, because it reminds me that my personal behavior (at home , alone) means I'm not weird or crazy, just an Autistic person. (undiagnosed)

@leilameow9582 4 месяца назад

Same here and I believe the rates of autism are much higher than what is estimated. After doing research on my own and taking to a neurodivergent specialist I am certain that my entire immediate family is on the spectrum (myself included) and none of us are diagnosed.

@Autisticelder 4 месяца назад

Yeah, they should have been paid . It was just another way they were taking advantage of disabled people. The one you were talking about on the US season 2 that makes the noises you said you make as well , is a sign of anxiety which I can relate to having more than one anxiety disorder. If you noticed, they used to take big breaths between speaking because of their anxiety. The show was basically taking the micky out of them using them as the joke for entertainment when they were clearly struggling and frustrated not being able to communicate what they were feeling. I am so bloody angry at the way they exploited these people and as far as I am concerned, they used their disability against them. I don't know why so many people cannot see the reality of this. I am 66 and autistic and maybe it’s because I can see it like it really is. Young autistic people are still learning a lot about life and can be more easily fooled into thinking someone is trying to help them rather than exploit them. The dating advice was for teenagers at best, and modelled on shallow neurotypical methods when autistic people need something different . It also begs the question, why is an autistic coach trying to help people with neurotypical methods and childish ones as well ? The whole was a sick joke.

@melissachavez9176 4 месяца назад

As a neurotypical raising my teen son, who’s on the spectrum, I 100% agree with you as I watched both seasons on Netflix. It’s not a documentary at all. Thank you for being an outstanding advocate for the autistic community. I really enjoy listening to your podcasts!

@lauraburystedmundsyoga8231 4 месяца назад

Programs like this are also infantilising their audience, by showing them a distorted view of the world. There has been an increase in "wildlife shows" (NOT documentaries, but classed as such) that anthropomorphise the animals & even use a narrative, presumably to elicit specific emotions in the audience. Watched one about bears that obviously used several different bear families (cubs were different colours!) to fulfil the narrative for the episode. Watched another about wolves, which did the same thing - several wolf families used to accommodate the scripted narrative.

@lauraburystedmundsyoga8231 4 месяца назад

Meant to say "reality" TV is like these scripted animal shows - patronising to the audience & disrespectful of the subjects. (edit for spelling 🙄)

@ascgazz7347 4 месяца назад

I’m torn by the show. As a late diagnosis at 43 I enjoy recognising traits I have and learning the struggles we share, but the way it’s treated is exactly as you say. Infantilising. It’s the inclusion of the parents for sure that pushes it over the wrong edge. Well presented.

@micro_adVANtures 4 месяца назад

100% agree Orion. An autistic teacher, we have to undergo training in modern day slavery to help protect the young people we teach. This scenario stinks of modern day slavery!!! I’m a celebrity get me out of here is a reality show and the ‘cast’ get paid outrageous amounts, big brother, etc etc … this is a casted show and the cast are entitled to payment for services rendered. That said… what about X factor or britains got talent …. Actually scrap that, they’re competitions.

@annanajduch5201 4 месяца назад

Many many good points in this 'rant'. I havent watched the show nor do i plan to, but i can certainly understand your concerns. Valid and well explained.

@Griffs7 4 месяца назад

I love these unedited videos. It's like hearing someone speak the same language as me after living in a foreign country my whole life.

@CLEFT3000 4 месяца назад

The thing I love about being somewhere on the spectrum is being able to form such water tight & unimpeachable arguments. Just like this, booyah! Sad situation though not at all surprising. This is why I stay away from any/all things labeled “social or reality” with the exception of YT and maybe reddit. I am alarmed at their willingness to ignore your direct feedback & surprised the ABC didn’t seek out consulting advice - the mantra within all communities generally is “nothing about us without us” I guess the mighty dollar won again

@Catlily5 4 месяца назад

So you don't count the autistic people on the show as being part of us?

@hannahk.summerville5908 4 месяца назад

I started watching the show back when I didn't know I'm neurodivergent and I immediately loved the people. So I liked watching. But even in season 1 I started feeling weird about this coach lady and some of the parents and people in the background asking questions in the interview parts. Like the framing was so weird. Now I don't know if I'll watch the rest. It's also super fishy how the producers didn't want you to talk about the conversation you had with them. Ugh. Media these days🙄 Ps: Hell nah was this a documentary. Also wtf they didn't even pay them?

@NitFlickwick 4 месяца назад

I have been watching these unmasked videos along with your broken and defeated video. I’m glad you are charging properly for international shipping now. I gladly paid it. As I deal with my own middle-aged late diagnosis journey and wrestle with burn out, these videos are so relatable to me. You have been guiding me through this journey, and I want to say thank you.

@joeminella5315 4 месяца назад

This is why I got rid of my tv 10 years ago. It's all patronizing and insulting. Love on the spectrum sounds particularly cringy.

@kimmirhoades 4 месяца назад

Abbey’s mom really really bothers me with how she infantilizes and almost uses her for fame. It’s a very odd dynamic. I feel bad for Abbey :(

@orionkelly 4 месяца назад

Absolutely. I get the same feeling from her social accounts.

@barbarabarker6753 4 месяца назад

I am not an Autistic person, but I am totally engrossed when I watch your videos. You are brilliant at explaining things from your perspective as an Autistic person, in a way that makes sense to me. Thanks. (75 year old female Brit)

@Moonlight5551000 4 месяца назад

I think you really nailed the points you made about how differently the cast here was treated and portrayed as opposed to other reality dating shows with neurotypical cast. This show wasnt made for people with autism, it was made as a spectical for "normal" people to watch and laugh at while feeling like they're being inclusive when they arent. If they treated any other cast from another show like that theres no way they'd get away with it, but because the cast is autistic they can because we as autistic people, generally speaking, we are so used to being ignored and treated lesser than, that we just accept it and are happy to be included even if its at our expense. These people are showing their vulnerabilities for all the world to see and arent even being paid, it reminds me of how the disabled were turned into "sideshow freaks" because thats the only way they could survive back in older times, It feels exploitative. Somehow saying that this drama Series is a documentary makes it feel even more offensive, its just a dating show but because it features people with disabilities its now in the same league as watching some exotic birds on a nature docu. The way some of the parents talk it comes off to me at least, as like zoo keepers watching animals reintegrade into the wild, the whole show just sounds so dehumanizing.

@Baptized_in_Fire. 3 месяца назад

We see things the same way. I feel sane when you do these videos. Thank you

@GlitteryPegasus 4 месяца назад

I wish I could access the show now, so I could analyze the musical cues. That would be fascinating. But, I don't have access to most streaming services. It's probably for the best. I agree with you. I don't want to support exploitation. I love these videos.

@Autisticelder 4 месяца назад

I've watched all of them to see if they improved. As an autistic person I found all the episodes Australia and the US to be shallow and exploiting autistic people for entertainment. I'm not a fan and I will not watch anymore. If I had my chance, I would have given the producers a piece of my mind. They don't give a sh-t about autistic people. It was made to make money at the expense of vulnerable autistic people for their own gain. I'm going to write an article about it and put it up on my website.

@Internalflow33 4 месяца назад

Buckle up hey! 👍 Will be back later to watch the rest.

@Ala13ManOWar 4 месяца назад

Orion, don't get carried away, we like it because it's like watching and recognizing ourselves there talking and behaving naturally, and that's cool as like giving ourselves permission for being more autistic in our day to day after a lifetime of masking. Simple as that.

@melaniewantsabeer243 4 месяца назад

Dude, I'm so pissed off let's go

@zioah4560 4 месяца назад

Orion, I could not watch the 1st show or anything since for reasons you’ve so successfully put into words. I sense these things immediately as a vibe. However can not put into words. Thank You.

@HaakonOdinsson 4 месяца назад

Oh cool, another unmasked vid. Love these unedited ones. Thank you for uploading them, they’re really interesting and well, bloody brilliant

@annanajduch5201 4 месяца назад

I'm loving your explanations and reasoning here. I can understabd why this show makes you mad. Great analysis and explanations.

@AutisticlyRose 3 месяца назад

I don't enjoy dating shows so I haven't watched these either. I can say that I suspect the extra grumbles about people infantalizing autism has me scared to show some of my more childlike traits and likes and have people jump on me for 'pushing' the childlike image that some people hold autistic people to but I don't think it should be my sole responsibility. I shouldn't have to hide stuffies and glitter and lights and things that make me happier because someone else thinks its childish.

@AbuctingTacos 4 месяца назад

This unedited, unmasked series finally enticed me to watch your channel. I can relate it and feels genuine. I avoid the show and other channels about autism because it feels like performitive trash for NTs to watch and feel good I'm sure most of the channels are genuine. it doesn't feel that way when they have enticing thumbnails and is produced so well

@fatheroftherealm 4 месяца назад

I love the people featured but was irritated when the families particularly NT (?) people were laughing and giggling when the main people were being serious.

@depleteduraniumcowboy3516 4 месяца назад

Very watchable IMHO. I haven't watched any of these shows. I've stopped following popular culture in general when I started law school (as a second career individual). I feel like you are making very valid points. As I search for my authentic self, I very much appreciate your unmasked and unedited self. I think it helps me find myself. The wannabe lawyer in me is thinking... class action lawsuits against the producers.

@royahoffmeyer3959 18 дней назад

Unmasked is original and I LOVE it❤thank you

@klarisakivlin9433 4 месяца назад

I loved this unedited video style! It's like having a normal conversation! 😊

@jcollins3182 2 месяца назад

❤man, you are so right on. Thank you for everything you said here, and how you said it too. you’re like a lighthouse in a fking storm.

@gula9993 4 месяца назад

Fame has it's own price.

@TrinityMorningstar 4 месяца назад

Very valid points Orion.

@Omneyvdwatering 4 месяца назад

I'm autistic myself, and I absolutely love thies unmasked, unedited videos.

@mpyressflame 4 месяца назад

Brilliant review. Thank you.

@lindaversil1121 4 месяца назад

Of course they dont want to hear your opinions and advice Or concerns. They want to make a show that sells and is sensational They don’t care about the truth. It’s about ratings.

@micro_adVANtures 4 месяца назад

True

@AutisticDutchie 2 месяца назад

I love your unmasked videos so much. So enjoyable seeing someone behave like me!

@joe_joe_joe_ 4 месяца назад

I love when you rant, it's so refreshing.

@dorothysweatt2857 4 месяца назад

Thanks for speaking out on this Orin, much appreciated.

@jenfisher-bradley2623 4 месяца назад

I appreciate your video. Your honesty is valuable to me. Your expression of what is happening is valuable to me. I understand the concepts you are putting forward, infantilizing and exploitation, much clearer as a result of watching. Ignoring the harm these shows are doing to the WHOLE community is not acceptable.

@florentinaguggenheimer6557 4 месяца назад

I will not watch the Love on the Spectrum show. It's not right. In fact, no dating show is appropriate. They are trash, made for empty people who want to learn manipulation tactics. Personally, I prefer to watch Murder, She Wrote, every night. Angela Lansbury was so wholesome and pleasant to listen to. Can we have a live show about the wonderfulness of Angela Lansbury? Lol. Am I weird? Yes. Today is a rough day and I'm feeling extra weird. Love you Orion, thanks for all your hard work!

@pleaseleavemealoneandgoheal 4 месяца назад

Thanks for being real, it really helps 🙏💯

@AutisticBarbie 4 месяца назад

I like the videos because I appreciate the real talk

@SillyHapppy 4 месяца назад

See you think I'm just gonna stop watching because of whatever reason you're thinking. however, the real reason I'm gonna stop watching. Is because I am a literal hummingbird

@donovangray4246 4 месяца назад

I think that (at least in the USA) the producers of this show want to misrepresent autistic people so that it will seem as if they are not disabled and society won't have to help them in any way. It's again, all about money. As for the cast playing in the show, I would argue that they are masking a lot of behaviors just to please the producers of the show.

@Vanix9696 4 месяца назад

0:28 as someone who likes these videos, IT MAKES SENSE DAMMIT! Looking forward to finishing the remaining 42 minutes!

@shuggafoxx917 3 месяца назад

Thank you so much, please keep it up.

@kawag6356 4 месяца назад

You are so amazing, Orion!! Your content means so much to me as you are able to articulate exactly how I feel ❤️❤️

@sqiddy2372 4 месяца назад

I've watched a few of your videos and I find them really helpful and enjoyable. I really like the format of this video too! It's really nice to see you speak in a way that is more natural to you because it's very similar to how I talk and it makes me feel "at home" if that makes sense. I'm gonna check out the rest of your videos like this. :D

@BuckarooBonzai 4 месяца назад

🎉Is the show Love On The Spectrum another example of people taking advantage of autistic persons? This recent autism fad (hope its not) made that show possible. Although, tbh, that fad got me diagnosed, which is a top ten life moment. So please keep talking, Orion; now more than ever your voice is heard, and imho needs to be!🎉

@tiredclemont 4 месяца назад

I love the Unmasked series you do, it feels like. Raw and genuine. Not that the edited videos aren't genuine, but it's unfiltered. And I think it feels more like the thoughts that go through my head vs what comes out of my mouth. And I love hearing you talk XD keep being you man

@belindarichardson5981 4 месяца назад

Love this!! Spot on!

@Jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjs 4 месяца назад

YES!!! You nailed it!

@BiDave 4 месяца назад

Great video. I can barely sit through the ads for these types of programs without feeling unbearably angry, so obviously I haven't seen any of them. You made some really good points, thanks.

@alejandro-314 4 месяца назад

I love your unmasked videos because honesty is in short supply in social media these days, and these videos are nothing but complete honesty. I live in Spain so I think this show is not broadcasted here. But it sounds like a reality show to me, not a documentary. You make solid points. Great video!

@filthism1659 4 месяца назад

I prefer watching these videos over your edited ones I can pay attention to this one not the edited one my mind wanders with the edited videos lol keep them coming please

@jordonlongley6576 3 месяца назад

I almost didn’t watch because I saw “part 7” in the title. Thought I’d have to watch 6 other long videos first.

@ensoknit 4 месяца назад

yup! thank you for sharing your opinion. I think it was very well said.

@rozarah 4 месяца назад

I tried watching the show and could only get a couple minutes in. The music gave me the ick.

@oleonard7319 4 месяца назад

I've long since given up on the media ever accurately depicting auistiics after the early 2000's

@jecarlin 4 месяца назад

I really don't understand why they couldn't have just told Kaelynn her not being included in season 2 was about her dating preferences instead of making up some BS story that they weren't going to be in her area. What would it have hurt to tell the truth? So disrespectful to lie to someone.

@stevenbigbee1766 4 месяца назад

I am in the u.s. I don't watch t.v. but catch programs on amazon prime. If this is available it wouldn't interest myself. Sounds like Australian entertainmrnt industry mirrirs the u..s, guesdingbuf anyone were to produce a show that represebted a group of people accurately ? Maaayyybe the u.k. or france, orvither europeons that are good at not just lasilybgrinding out entertainment. Crap productions misepresent every group not just autistics. One if my most exhausting traits is the others being wronged by systems thst i csnnot affect and they are shit no matter what. I just get going on and can't stop..for weeks. I hope your sharing this helped a bit. Your followers are bright, caring, well spoken..guess your character attracts them.

@ydhaj25437 4 месяца назад

Arguably none of the people on any of the dating / reality shows are taken care of by production.

@jaseman 3 месяца назад

I learned recently that I'm autistic. It seems that a lot of autistic people have made autism the centre of their being - and devoted everything toward talking about it. I'm not going to do that. I'm just getting on with my life. If anyone comments or asks why I seem to be a bit strange or different - then I will tell them that it's because I'm autistic. I don't expect them to become fascinated by the topic - they might just say 'oh okay' and then run away - which is fine.

@thetickedoffpianoplayer4193 4 месяца назад

I'm currently working on the australian series, even though I haven't watched the US version. This is absolutely a reality show. The music isn't as heavyhanded as the US version, but you're correct about the music. The stuff they play in the background when the neurotypical family is being shown has a strong Autism Speaks vibe.

@stephenieolson8535 4 месяца назад

One of my favorite episodes in the Australian seasons was when one of the autistic cast members went on a date with a neurotypical guy. It’d be very disappointing if they’re excluding that on purpose from the US seasons.

@stephenieolson8535 4 месяца назад

Kaelynn was one of my favorites from season one.

@stephenieolson8535 4 месяца назад

I wonder if Autism Speaks demanded some parent representation and other things. The speed dating event was run but someone wearing a puzzle piece logo. 🤷‍♀️

@stephenieolson8535 4 месяца назад

I think it’s fine to include parents, because realistically, they can be support persons for people with autism. Like for the guy with long blond curly hair (I forget his name…), his dad gives him advice that seems to be helpful for him for preparing. That felt fine to include. But the focus should remain on the person with autism, and their experience, not the traumatizing heart break that the medical community bestowed upon the parents of autistic kids in the 90s and 00s (I.e. they’ll never speak, they’ll never hug you, they’ll never succeed at anything - yeah, I’m sure being misinformed like that was world shattering, but what’s that got to do with love/dating on the spectrum?).

@Catlily5 4 месяца назад

Didn't Journey date a neurotypical woman?

@alishamusk 4 месяца назад

You sound just like me, I love it!

@williammorganti8346 4 месяца назад

As an autistic I always tried to be myself and dating and learning the rules of dating,was a big challenge for me, but my mom introduced me to the show but I felt not just misrepresented but making me cringe because it seemed the editing only picked awkward moments in the life of some one who is autistic and it was hard to watch because it made me feel do I act like that in eyes of others and if so I need to be in more control of my emotions it may have done some good in that way but it only made me want to mask my true feelings more.

@delphoeneevenhuis5199 4 месяца назад

Hey Orian, fellow Aussie with autism here! I have not yet braced myself to watch an episode of this show! I spent the 1st half of my life being used for cheap entertainment if you get my drift! The ABC are nothing but a woke joke these days anyway!

@sophiegolden 4 месяца назад

I didn't watch the show, because I m in France, and I don't think it will be allowed to do it. By the way, I don't watch that kind of thing. Last year, they wanted to make a French reality show for obese people who want to cure. After one show on TV, it was canceled because of the protestations of the obsese community, so I m watching that kind of show on RU-vid, from USA UK Australia... No choice... Thanks for the review, if I can watch one time this show, I will do it, regardless of what you said ❤

@Catlily5 4 месяца назад

I think that you are right that the show should be called a reality TV show. I think that the autistic community was already divided before the TV show though.

@rita.amstlv 4 месяца назад

Great!! Don't ever let them silence you!!!!!!!!!!!!! 👍👍👍👍👍🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🌻🌞🌞🌞

@rita.amstlv 4 месяца назад

This is so spot on!!!!!!!!!

@rachelann9362 3 месяца назад

Some of the music used sounds almost EXACTLY like the music in a cutesy “in the life of a zoo” set of chronical-style documentaries from the bbc (I think the bbc, could be wrong.) the music was used for mating attempts (often failing for whatever reason) with various species, and clumsy newborns, I heard that music on THIS documentary when they were showing someone fumbling, and zooming in on other patrons of the restaurant, and I instantly got a HUGE ick. They literally presented the show as a zoo. Sure the team might have been pretty nice to the cast members while filming, but the editing style and presentation shows it was a disingenuous premise given to the cast members. And why are they not paid? Most participants on “competition” style shows at least have the chance of a goal at the end, even if not everyone is paid.. at least they have a potential CHANCE. also why not spread that across all the cast members if it’s not a competition? Nah, it was zoo show. It was “look at these silly autistics.. they are so clueless, laugh at their dumb mistakes.” Why else would they ZOOM in on other patrons in a restaurant? They were trying to highlight and get a laugh at it, especially with the silly, infantilizing zoo music playing.

@maxbas2018 3 месяца назад

So at the beginning you said, that you can't understand why people would like to watch you doing an video unmasked (which makes sense, that you are confused about it conaidering the origin of authistic people masking). However, I'd like to present my reason for why I clicked onto this video. I, aswell as my former therapist, believe that I might be autistic. However, as my psychiatrist just didn't give a fck bout is job I am undiagnosed. As such I am unsure about my identity but still relate a lot to autism / autisitc people. Seeing you unmasked for me was a way to compare myself to another autistic being to find out if I am more okay with identifying myself as one. Also, while watching (I'm just at 10min now but felt like I uad to write down my thoughts) I noticed you where jumping a lot between different thought processes (a behaviour that is well observable with me). Is that a common thing for autistic people?

@ellen_3 4 месяца назад

❤❤❤❤

@ad1990 4 месяца назад

I'm a little late to the party, but here's my take: I only recently heard about the show. I watched the first 5 minutes or so of the US version and then turned it off. I can't speak for the rest of the show, but the first person they introduced, although high functioning, was *clearly* not "normal". You could tell before she even interacted with anyone... My problem with this as an Autistic person myself is that, right out of the gate, it suggests all Autistic people are always so different in their interactions that you can just tell... I'm NOT that way. If you just met me on the street one day and we talked, at most you might think I'm reserved or introverted or something. You wouldn't know I was on the Spectrum unless I told you. I even had an extended conversation recently on Reddit with someone recently who, come to find out, was a behavioral specialist with a brother on the spectrum... You know how/when I found that out? AFTER I revealed I was on the spectrum; she had no idea!

@Baptized_in_Fire. 3 месяца назад

They use tones to control the mind and emotions of the viewer.

@age93 4 месяца назад

These unmasking videos have been profound for noticing my true self. Dating shows are made for entertaining; however, the initial idea of a dating show for people with ASD seems like circus entertainment to covertly make fun.. If it was truly genuine, the show would’ve honoured the participates and met their accommodations 🤷🏼‍♀️

@iam-pf4ob Месяц назад

i haven't seen the show but it sounds like it's all about money. i'm unofficially diagnosed with autism but seeking an official diagnosis in the near future however even from the small amount that i've learned about autism so far including needing to confront my own prejudices and biases from childhood, i think that ppl don't understand that autism doesn't have to accompany intellectual disability...there's maybe an expectation that we are unable to be mature or be an actual adult. as a matter of fact, if i get an official diagnosis, one of the things i wonder about is whether i would tell anyone at work bc i worry that it may then become a reason for them to disregard me in some way. and even if there are laws against doing so, ppl can always lie

@minxiv7 4 месяца назад

It’s in the UK as well.

@DeviousFink 4 месяца назад

9 minutes in and I'm waiting to hear the words "exploited" or "inspiration porn"...

@crystalokeefe197 4 месяца назад

People want to see us at our weirdest.

@keyc.1109 4 месяца назад

It doesn't make sense? I have autism and ADHD, my daily life doesn't make sense.

@chrismaxwell1624 4 месяца назад

There a show, I think ti was called bind date in 1985, produce by the BBC. I remember that show had that same format. Two things about the. This Marg, she likes long walks on beach and red roses. Just typical people in show. So seem like that they are using the same format for this show. This in my opinion made more sense for blind dates where 3 people were behind screens. Need something to go on so a couple like or dislikes make sense there. I have watched the show but if this to introduce to people to the viewers, that's not good.

@HaakonOdinsson 4 месяца назад

Or watched, don’t want to going by comments I’ve heard…..it’s taking the piss, using them for “entertainment”

@belindarichardson5981 4 месяца назад

It's inspiration porn