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Interesting Observation With Gyeon Q2 MOHS | 1 Month Update Round 2 Product Testing 

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@ChicagoAutoPros
@ChicagoAutoPros 3 года назад
Have you guys used any other product that provides the same effect as Gyeon Q2 MOHS?
@werewazz
@werewazz 3 года назад
I've had amazing results from Ethos Graphene Matrix Coating
@AntEloftheHouseofEl
@AntEloftheHouseofEl 3 года назад
If I remember correctly I've seen a similar effect with the Kamikaze Zipang coat. But that would have been combined with a layer of ISM aswell.
@TheMrArix
@TheMrArix 3 года назад
Off topic, but would like to see Avalon King XI, I've applied it to my daily driver. Beading really well everywhere except where I tried to apply a second layer on the lower portion of the doors. I waited the specified time, but sheeting slowly after 2 weeks :(
@n_a41
@n_a41 3 года назад
I would recommend trying Carpro Reset or the Gyeon Restart Wash to see if can bring any of those "dead" products back to life
@quintmister
@quintmister 3 года назад
Yes - Carbon Collective Platinum Paint. Ever better if topped with Oracle (by same company) but still great on its own.
@triggerhappyreviews
@triggerhappyreviews 3 года назад
Love these tests. I've tried so many products over the years only to be disappointed by many of them. This saves me time and money. Good work!
@geoffreychadwick9229
@geoffreychadwick9229 3 года назад
This review work of products is a LOT of work to trace and keep records of and it's really appreciated along with the detailed explanation of the material science. As a guy who has seen ceramic coatings come up and remembers before they existed I still am floored by them. Adam's on the trunk lid was almost COMICALLY good compared to the competition.
@sergiobarraza1806
@sergiobarraza1806 3 года назад
Gyeon ceramic line its awesome! The certified ones are based in Mohs product thats why its so good. Great review my friend
@juanmondragon
@juanmondragon 3 года назад
This series has so much potential! I'm loving it and thank you. I would like to see some of the strong contenders be moved to panels that get more exposed to the elements like behind the wheels and also see how they perform on direct sunlight since some of the strong performers are on the sides. The cancoat for one needs to be set on a different area of the car since it's performing so well but I feel like it's on a spot where it doesn't get exposed to the elements as much as the others.
@neilwalker5041
@neilwalker5041 3 года назад
I really enjoy these product testing videos. I am having a very different experience with the Gyeon Q2 wax. After four months of sitting outside in the heat and rain the hydrophobic behavior is similar to cancoat. I am really impressed with the Mohs on your test vehicle. Thank you for the. Idea.
@Matthew-yi3bm
@Matthew-yi3bm 2 года назад
Super awesome video my friend. Excellent job. Just subscribed after watching the entire video. Really appreciate the time and effort regarding purchasing these products and actually testing them yourself. Takes a Real Detailer to do what you did for the people out there looking to purchase a product with so may false claims. I personally know for a fact that many products out there are really just a waste of money. At least now a customer can make a much clearer choice. Gyeon Mohs Q2 is something I'm gonna look up right now. Thanks again
@diyeveryday67
@diyeveryday67 2 года назад
Really appreciate the videos! Picked up detailing tools thanks to your videos during lockdown and did full paint restoration on a 2008 Mazda 5 we have owned since new and has 215,000 miles on it. All that to say this. Ceramic coated half the car with no-name ceramic coating from Amazon and the other half with Adams grapheme spray coating. The car has been parked outside in Las Vegas since March 2021. During my wash today the Adams graphene on the roof has given up. Other than the wheels and the roof, both coatings are still performing great. Have to find some time to polish the roof and apply a new product to protect it. Used the Adams grapheme detail spray on the roof for today. Thanks for the videos and inspiration!
@bmyers4321
@bmyers4321 2 года назад
Don’t ever see a lot of people talking about the glassparency graphene but I put that on my parents truck and they are loving it. Spends a lot of time outside and camping and still holding strong.
@JAYSEN6.7
@JAYSEN6.7 2 года назад
Went with gyeon MOHS for my vehicle coated in april 2018! 2 layers and its still holding up gloss and slikness stil there! The roof is done and hood is 50% but couldn’t be happier with the product just reinforced my decision to go with GYEON for my new truck!
@larrys2554
@larrys2554 3 года назад
Love these tests. How great is it to see results from so many products. 👍🏼👌🏻
@millerdetailing4176
@millerdetailing4176 3 года назад
Oh yeah been waiting for this one. Thanks for the updates and great content.
@GaryKari
@GaryKari 3 года назад
These are the best tests! That Gyeon Q2 MOHS looks to be working really nice...!
@maxcichon2557
@maxcichon2557 3 года назад
Thanks for doing this! Horizontal surfaces will suffer from fallout and UV breakdown. I'm 10 months into an Adam's Graphene Spray Coating durability test. Weekly washing and TW Wet Wax when drying. Looks great, just noticing the need to claybar now. Micro boogers are sticking.
@kenmartin756
@kenmartin756 3 года назад
I am looking forward to the professional applications. I've had three cars coated with Gtechniq Ultra, and one with CQuartz Finest, and have been happy with both of them.
@erik9108
@erik9108 3 года назад
Hard to find this kind of honesty without fearing that it's somehow sponsored. It's a like and subscribe for me!
@quintmister
@quintmister 3 года назад
Hey guys, another brilliant video - thank you. Very interesting about the panels that have had the most direct sunlight/change in temperature. I would like to recommend an Australian made spray sealant called Bead Machine made by a company called Bowdens Own. I don't know if you can get it in the states but it's surely worth a test as we all know how hot it gets there!!!! Cheers Quin
@mattheviewer
@mattheviewer 3 года назад
Tests provide lots of useful info, thanks! Also interesting to see the "games" various companies play wrt product availability (Adams and Optimum seem to play for exclusivity more than others - are there others doing this as well?). In our local detalier's case "exclusivity" makes it difficult to obtain certain desirable products.
@fskof
@fskof 3 года назад
Interesting results. It would be interesting to see which products work best in the summer heat, humidity and rain vs winter temps, snow, ice, salt and brine. I live in Milwaukee and we get nailed with both extremes. Hard to find products that excel in both climates. Keep doing these great videos 👍
@moisesramirez5242
@moisesramirez5242 3 года назад
Finally you post this been waiting💀, awesome video!🔥
@richardtheye9900
@richardtheye9900 3 года назад
Awesome program, Just subscribed. Regarding the windshield test in particular, but also on any vertical subject test, consider dividing four vertical quadrants across, rather than horizontal quadrants where one competitors products is placed above and below the other. The water runoff in some instances seems to overwhelm the product placed below its competition. In the windshield flooding stage, the product on the bottom appeared at times to be subjected to larger volumes of water. Just a thought.
@mannyrodriguez5851
@mannyrodriguez5851 Год назад
Very impt tests! Thank you very much for this!
@ShineYourLightDetailing
@ShineYourLightDetailing 3 года назад
Excellent comparisons. Thank you, Jason! 👍🏼👍🏼
@ChicagoAutoPros
@ChicagoAutoPros 3 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@jahmed525
@jahmed525 3 года назад
Awesome work again. Cannot thank you enough for these types of comparison videos. Keep up the good work 🙂 Edit: I am definitely buying the pro lvl coating from your website.
@millerdetailing4176
@millerdetailing4176 3 года назад
Thanks for the update and all the great content
@caseysimon2569
@caseysimon2569 3 года назад
Like and subscribed, keep up the great work! Your hard work is saving me a ton of money with this work!
@ChicagoAutoPros
@ChicagoAutoPros 3 года назад
Welcome to the channel!
@cvytnioy56dvfuj4g7
@cvytnioy56dvfuj4g7 2 года назад
I have Gtechniq Crystal Serum Ultra on a SUV in a dark graphite colour, is there anything I should be using over the top of it to help. Car lives in a garage for most of its life, coating is brand new. Done out here in Australia. Love the videos. Keep it up
@mikehotaling
@mikehotaling 3 года назад
I used the seal and shine on my wife’s 2021 Telluride and just cleaned it beforehand. It’s been on for two months give or take a couple weeks and it still beads and rolls off like when I first put it on. I am in upstate NY where the summer has been cooler and raining. So it might be lasting longer for me. Love this series of testing and though.
@Schwabz33
@Schwabz33 2 года назад
Hey Jason excellent video! But to be fair to CSL, CSL should be topped with EXOV4 to help with self cleaning. Gyeon like you said has two layers to help with it’s cleaning also! Gyeon highly recommends you top with Gyeon Skin. So that 3 layers of protection. I think redoing CSL with the recommend EXOV4 layers would be a good comparison to GYEON MOHS.
@jorgebarrantes1386
@jorgebarrantes1386 3 года назад
Can you do gloss readings at 30-day intervals? would like to know how well the gloss holds up on the ceramic coatings.
@dtna
@dtna 3 года назад
So many products out there. I am going with Adam's or 303 products. I still have some waxes. Once I run out, I am done with waxes. Your tests have saved me alot of money. Thnx.
@Youknowitbby
@Youknowitbby 3 года назад
Adams Graphene spray coating is legit I blow my car dry 90-95% then mop up the remains with a drying aide 👌🏼
@larrys2554
@larrys2554 3 года назад
I’m through with waxes as well. I have so many top shelf waxes I need to do get rid of now.
@codyklees5595
@codyklees5595 2 года назад
I would like to see this test during the winter time. That will show a real world testing on some of these products.
@Matthew-yi3bm
@Matthew-yi3bm 2 года назад
Have you guys ever used NV Nova Lustre or Jet? Would be great for your channel!!! I just used it on my BMW and my SUV. Looking really good so far. Superb water beading effects from Jet and high gloss from Lustre. Haven't had it in my vehicles for long enough to say more.
@Gamingoodz
@Gamingoodz 2 года назад
Have you reviewed the Meguires Hybrid Ceramic Spray? Think its in a blue bottle? Before I got my truck ceramic coated I was really impressed with this stuff. Was super easy to apply compared to some others and held up well. The guys that did my ceramic coating said there was a ton of wax on the truck lol.
@MyGuyKirby
@MyGuyKirby 3 года назад
Interesting on the windshield products. What glass cleaner are you using on it. From an older video from CAP I have determined that the CarPro Clarity is really good on coated glass
@danmorrissette4814
@danmorrissette4814 3 года назад
Pretty Cool and Surprising Various Results !! im surprised Opti seal did not do so good! Nothing Beats a Good Coating! ;-)
@greghinchy4341
@greghinchy4341 3 года назад
love your work mate from Sydney Australia
@VictorHernandez-nt3tw
@VictorHernandez-nt3tw 3 года назад
Lovely videos and testing. Keep it up!
@jimk8927
@jimk8927 2 года назад
Can you do one comparison with Aerolon Tech Shine, and give your opinion on this product? I have also tried Marine products too.
@spoku4996
@spoku4996 2 года назад
Next round of testing can you do crystal serum light, car pro 3.0 UK, Ammo reflex and Gyeon MOHS on the 2 doors next to each other. Good way to separate the top 4 by seeing how they handle the added contamination.
@casimirschudrowitz5434
@casimirschudrowitz5434 3 года назад
Even though the TC582 is dead, I don't expect any spray on paint protectant to last long. For the price, easy of use and short term protection between maintenance washes every 3-4 weeks, I've stop using any quick detailing spray I have and have substituted TC582, at least the TC582 provides some protection at the expense of show car "quality" super gloss. Love the tests, good or bad.
@ChicagoAutoPros
@ChicagoAutoPros 3 года назад
Agreed! I definitely still think it is a great topper that won't break the bank and adds good gloss and slickness to the surface that can be added after every wash.
@dandezz
@dandezz 3 года назад
Can u test dura slick next..? 🤷🏻‍♂️ please...always awesome vids guys...
@mag1vl
@mag1vl 3 года назад
I'm a fan what can I say but great stuff guys from the Aussie Guy ;)
@user-gv3lm6xp4j
@user-gv3lm6xp4j 3 года назад
summary chart at the end is a must
@lead-dog
@lead-dog 3 года назад
You are not John Travolta but nice try! Otherwise awesome work on this project. So valuable for pros...I assume and definetly for the enthusiast like me. I do think you are leaving out a good product and that would be The Last Coat and maybe their Black Ice even though i haven't tried it. Adam's says it is H9! And good for 7 years. I really don't believe that. Do you? But great work Jason. Really appreciate all you work and passion for this test. Kudos to CAPs!!
@LiebhardtOutdoors
@LiebhardtOutdoors 3 года назад
Next test you should try shinesupply beadlock pro ceramic coating.
@tobiasmorgancreatives
@tobiasmorgancreatives 2 года назад
Have you ever tried the Torque Ceramic spray? and how does it compare to the adams graphene...
@camhunter9852
@camhunter9852 2 года назад
Hi guys could you try some of the bowdens products during your testing?
@onniborg9065
@onniborg9065 2 года назад
I'm not sure but I think comparing vertical surfaces to horizontal ones is little bit inaccurate, don't know if it plays a too big of a role though. Of course water flows faster on a vertical surface, that seems obvious but also as horizontal surfaces probably heat up more in the sun.
@ryanrich4596
@ryanrich4596 3 года назад
I have yet to see a Dr. Beasley's product work well on any of your tests. As much as I think you want them to work it doesn't appear that they do. I'd love to see griots 3 in 1 ceramic wax on the next test. It's readily available everywhere.
@tonymontana897
@tonymontana897 3 года назад
I think products tend to fail prematurely that are on the tops and not the sides. Do dark coloured cars tend to wear out the coatings faster I wonder ?? Dark colours tend to absorb more heat is my theory. Notice on the sides, the behaviour is much more compliant.
@sidhawkwind8179
@sidhawkwind8179 2 года назад
You keep saying it's been hot so what about if you live in a hot part of the world all year round?....Just waiting for winter now...I can't believe I said that as I hate the cold...BTW. I live on the Jersey shore but nothing like them numb nuts on TV in fact I'm British but I am dealing with salt in the air plus hot and cold weather sometimes with snow so I'malso dealing with salting the roads...I'm watching these vids very closely as I'm fixing up this winter a 96 Jaguar XJS that needs some (alot) cosmetic love and the paint job is dull...keep up the good work!!!👍👍🙂
@SIat
@SIat 3 года назад
The Tech 582 results you’ve been getting are really interesting because it’s like the complete opposite of what I get. After a month either in 105 degree heat or the winter when it rains maybe 7 or 8 times it will still have pretty strong beading
@Youknowitbby
@Youknowitbby 3 года назад
The true ceramics were applied at a much earlier time then the spray on products
@SIat
@SIat 3 года назад
@@Youknowitbby I’m not talking about the ceramics I’m talking about the tech 582 detail spray that’s like failed within a month. I’ve gone almost two months without washing my car when I used the spray version and it still had strong beading and sheeting
@Youknowitbby
@Youknowitbby 3 года назад
@@SIat my mistake yeah could be different circumstances as he stated hot temperatures plus thousands of miles driving played a factor to this test also which I'm guessing could be the difference? Climate, prep, and many factors play into this which is why many share different experiences.
@werewazz
@werewazz 3 года назад
Please review Artdeshine products they're some of the best I've used so far.
@NativeNYerChicHK
@NativeNYerChicHK 2 года назад
Man, that Gyeon Mohs stuff is awesome but pricey and now I want it 😩 I’d bet that spending all I might all year long to keep a shine on my car, keep it cleaner and protected, probably isn’t much different than the cost of this stuff. I have to weigh my options and see if it’s worth it. Maybe too I can snag a Black Friday deal on it if I just think on it for a few more weeks🤞😂
@kevincampbell8298
@kevincampbell8298 3 года назад
This is the question I ask myself. What the heck I works best in summer and in winter here where I live? It’s tough to choose without doing this type of testing. Now we have to throw in how does the colour affect the longevity of a product. Light colour vs dark..
@stanradu-andrei4020
@stanradu-andrei4020 2 года назад
Please consider testing labocosmetica Cupido with Perfecta.
@tpddetailscr
@tpddetailscr 3 года назад
My suggestion for roof and trunk is Meguiar's M799 and M27. And I don't remember if you used Gyeon Cure, but that's a good one.
@andrewcrawford5131
@andrewcrawford5131 3 года назад
Or meguiars hybrid paint coating
@tpddetailscr
@tpddetailscr 3 года назад
@@andrewcrawford5131 Yeap, they haven't tested any Meguiar's products yet
@ericdextrom7469
@ericdextrom7469 2 года назад
Does anyone know the difference in the Adams spray coating and their graphene ceramic coating advanced?
@jhby1956
@jhby1956 3 года назад
I have Ceramic Pro 9H on mine and still going strong 18 months in. Any opinion or maybe test against others?
@pasqualepisani
@pasqualepisani Год назад
I think flooding a panel is more unrealistic compared to real rain conditions. It might just be my preference but I don't care for the water beading that gets left behind and dries, leaving water spots. I prefer a sheeting product that leaves the least amount of water on the panel and therefore the least amount of water spotting. What products do you recommend if any that resist micro-marring, scratching and simply sheet water off instead of beading like crazy?
@MirrorImageDetailingTX
@MirrorImageDetailingTX 6 месяцев назад
Curious about GYEON Flash Evo
@peeciic00
@peeciic00 3 года назад
More tests please!!!!
@ChicagoAutoPros
@ChicagoAutoPros 2 года назад
We have more coming!
@lukoitautodetailingllc3124
@lukoitautodetailingllc3124 2 года назад
PLease test Undrdog coatings in the next line up.
@bhcamaro2002
@bhcamaro2002 3 года назад
Nice white 4th gen!
@Marcinzsosnowca
@Marcinzsosnowca 2 года назад
We are waiting for updates!
@glumdogtrillionaire
@glumdogtrillionaire 3 года назад
Being a Dr Beasley's reseller, what are your thoughts now after being a relatively poor or mediocre performer in your tests?
@reap5750
@reap5750 3 года назад
I believe its harder for water to come off on the hood that it is above the fenders because of pure gravitational force
@bneyens
@bneyens 3 года назад
Great video theanks!
@ChicagoAutoPros
@ChicagoAutoPros 3 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@dennisnieves748
@dennisnieves748 3 года назад
Next test try sonax spray and seal and gyeon wet
@mact153
@mact153 3 года назад
Gyeon wax working good on my car here in the UK cos it never gets that got, we have a one week summer 👍
@mact153
@mact153 3 года назад
Hot
@mauricespelman6608
@mauricespelman6608 3 года назад
All the flat surfaces degrading early make me think that you have sap or pollen or something on top of the clearcoat.
@matthew9867
@matthew9867 3 года назад
Would love to be able to get Detail Wise Academy further west! I'm in Utah so all of those tour dates are too far for me to make. Love what you're doing regardless.
@luckypaco1148
@luckypaco1148 3 года назад
Heat kills, I live in FL, I've seen all the "chemical torture tests" on Turtle Was Ice Seal and shine, and laugh b/c I know it will last a month in the FL heat and humidity.
@mascatrails661
@mascatrails661 3 года назад
EDITED: originally commented because google drive file required access permission. Access issue is resolved
@hydlidevlog
@hydlidevlog 3 года назад
link is working properly on my end. Might have something to do with setting up the access rights after uploading the video I think.
@rdspam
@rdspam 3 года назад
Worked for me.
@tittuvlog5957
@tittuvlog5957 3 года назад
Nice job bro
@ChicagoAutoPros
@ChicagoAutoPros 3 года назад
Thanks!
@Frozz7
@Frozz7 2 года назад
Try Nasiol ZR35, you won't find better sheeting abilities in ceramic coatings.
@yftinthyn007
@yftinthyn007 3 года назад
So beading is better than sheeting… like I’ve always known. Great info here and not clouded up by Turtle Wax sponsor money.
@sergiobarraza1806
@sergiobarraza1806 3 года назад
Yeah actually in time coatings that bead end sheeting
@TannerBobbitt
@TannerBobbitt 3 года назад
Actually sheeting is better. It reduces the amount of water spots that are left on the paint after the panel gets wet. Companies are working on making sheeting coating currently.
@yftinthyn007
@yftinthyn007 3 года назад
@@TannerBobbitt this is not correct. In real life scenarios, sheeting products cause water to stick to the paint. Mother Nature doesn’t use a controlled stream of water from a hose to “sheet” off the water. It’s an illusion because sheeting products actually make your car look dirtier because dirt AND water wind up sticking to it making one giant water spot.
@yftinthyn007
@yftinthyn007 3 года назад
@@TannerBobbitt the type of sheeting you’re referring to is from extremely hydrophobic products. The water beading is so strong the water completely sheets off the paint.
@rdspam
@rdspam 3 года назад
It looks like the CanCoat data on your spreadsheet still has the 3 durability rating I think you confirmed as bad data. Durability was a 10 in the original video/rating, no? Everything else “still going” at 6 months has a 10.
@1kontrabida
@1kontrabida 2 года назад
Just noticed was the car washed before the test or went to testing right away?
@ChicagoAutoPros
@ChicagoAutoPros 2 года назад
Washed first!
@seabrew1
@seabrew1 3 года назад
Gyeon wax is very disappointing. No wax for me! lol Not sure of the durability Jason but Nv Nova EVO is very easy to use, even outside. And i no professional. The only other coating i have used is c.quartz UK. Harder to use but its holding its own since may. Applied in sub 10C.
@Youknowitbby
@Youknowitbby 3 года назад
For the price of Q2 very disappointing along with TW 75 severely marketed otherwise….. Applying EVO when the time is right it’s gonna be my first coating…. How was your experience with it?
@halilcandogan9335
@halilcandogan9335 3 года назад
Gyeon mohs👌
@Marcinzsosnowca
@Marcinzsosnowca 3 года назад
Yeah seems great but it's a shame you have to put two coats on🙄
@mastacator2739
@mastacator2739 3 года назад
Gotta try gyeon flash! A lot of professional retailers offer this and I’d like to know if it’s worth saving a buck over mohs. Not much info out there on it
@rdspam
@rdspam 3 года назад
Are any of these professional only? I think the target is the consumer/enthusiast, so limited to products the general public can buy.
@mastacator2739
@mastacator2739 3 года назад
@@rdspam I’m not sure about all the products here, I know mohs is not limited to professional only. Flash is though. It seems like they do this for consumer use as well as for education on knowing what professional service to chose should you go that route. For a lot of people they want to know what installer they should go with based on brands they use as well as knowing what line is most cost effective. For me for example, I want it done professionally and the shop I’m looking at offers flash or mohs for an extra $500 and I would like to know if there is an appreciable difference that would make it worth it. I chose this installer based on their reviews and knowledge but also because they use gyeon which I have learned is an excellent brand because of this channel. If they had been using one of these inferior products tested here I would not have gone with this shop.
@kimquierrez5909
@kimquierrez5909 3 года назад
I think flash is only for certified mobile detailers. Cancoat and mohs can be used by experienced enthusiast as well as pure if I'm not mistaken.
@mastacator2739
@mastacator2739 3 года назад
@@kimquierrez5909 I believe you are right as well. The shop I’m looking at that does coatings offers a 3 year coat package which is flash or a 5 year that is mohs. I’m told they perform about the same but mohs will last longer. Not much info around the internet on this though as I assume it’s not as popular being that it’s for professional use only. Would be good to have some real world data points on this, I’ve seen a couple other retailers offer the same two product. My initial thought is to have them do the flash (1 coat) and go back a couple weeks later and top with a can coat.
@SpartanKyuubi
@SpartanKyuubi 3 года назад
We need NV Products test
@Youknowitbby
@Youknowitbby 3 года назад
Second the motion along with EVO
@MrKennyanders
@MrKennyanders 3 года назад
I would like to see Extreme Solutions Topper
@brandonmacd07
@brandonmacd07 3 года назад
Topper is not really a coating. It goes over spray coating that's why it's called topper.
@Yololololollol
@Yololololollol Год назад
What is the obsession with water beading??? I never understood
@hashaampiracha3712
@hashaampiracha3712 3 года назад
You should try polish angel products
@scottcrawford3745
@scottcrawford3745 3 года назад
Do you mean Angelwax ? I'd like to see those done too, except they kind of go against one of the underlying philosophies here: affordability/ cost-effectiveness in a commercial environment. In the case of trying the more expensive waxes, some of the Swissvax ones would also be interesting, especially because many are dedicated to certain car brands and their respective proprietary paints and clearcoats... But those are Ridiculously expensive. Like 3 and 4 Hundred dollars or more for a small tub.
@red.bk2autodetailing190
@red.bk2autodetailing190 3 года назад
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@moneyparhar
@moneyparhar 3 года назад
Dr. Basily left chat
@damongrambow7077
@damongrambow7077 3 года назад
Please make the doc public
@GK-Greece
@GK-Greece 4 месяца назад
Don’t waste your money and buy 303 grapheme,they lying about durability,after 1-2months it failed!!!
@1stfrompuertorico568
@1stfrompuertorico568 3 года назад
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