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@jackjr1
@jackjr1 Год назад
Would love to see FWD + snow tires vs AWD + all-season
@msully725
@msully725 Год назад
+1
@Armmani2000
@Armmani2000 Год назад
Snow tire wins, it makes a huge difference, much more than AWD. Winter tires also stop much faster than all seasons.
@bryanhersman4037
@bryanhersman4037 Год назад
I personally have a 2006 AWD Outback on all seasons and a 2022 FWD Sonata on brand new Blizzacks and the Outback will still out accelerate the dedicated snow tires in snow and ice. The snow tires of course stop the Hyundai faster which is probably more important but no question AWD is better for traction even with bad tires. Of course you can also put snow tires on the Subaru and have the best of both worlds. Where the FWD Hyundai pays off is with 50 miles per gallon compared to maybe 1/2 that on the Subaru.
@Armmani2000
@Armmani2000 Год назад
@@bryanhersman4037 Of course AWD with snow tires is the best option for safety.
@TheNotimprezed
@TheNotimprezed Год назад
Awd + all seasons always crushes fwd with winter tires in acceleration but the winter tire stops and turns better.
@325xitgrocgetter
@325xitgrocgetter Год назад
TIres! With winter tires, I find I can get more traction on a front drive car versus an all wheel drive car with all seasons....I think a test with a front drive with winter tires and a comparable in size and weight all wheel drive car with all seasons would be interesting.
@davidrandall2742
@davidrandall2742 Год назад
Of course an awd is better in a drag race from stopped in slippery conditions with similar tires, though too many drivers think they're invincible with awd/4wd. A fwd with winter tires can do quite well in the snow; I've used them for decades in Canada.
@kyprisdragonscale257
@kyprisdragonscale257 Год назад
Did they have Winter tire or 4 season , here in QC it mandatory to get Snow+ Mountain symbol on your rubber. Get it right Kids
@bsenka
@bsenka Год назад
Living in the Canadian prairies, I definitely do not miss the days when I had front wheel drive cars in the winter. Since I started driving 4x4s, I've pretty much forgotten that winter driving was supposed to be a problem.
@billseiler4952
@billseiler4952 Год назад
With blizzak snow tires on my 4 x 4 RAM…..you are correct….no more white knuckle driving
@William971
@William971 10 месяцев назад
Why I love fwd with nice winters during the winter. I feel alive and all my worries go away. Awd feels like god mode, no rush. Whatever makes us happy I guess.
@OldSchoolZ-wy2yx
@OldSchoolZ-wy2yx 10 месяцев назад
Always drove '80's and '90's FWD manual cars during the winter between Montreal and Gatineau, never had problems in heavy snow or freezing rain. My '07 Civic and '13 Fiesta on the other hand, are absolutely worthless on even a hint of rain. In my region, trucks and SUV's are just a threat to everybody on the road during the winter; they can't grip, they flip and tumble way too easily.
@dwnrange7812
@dwnrange7812 8 месяцев назад
The older cars were also much lighter, which makes a big difference in snow/winter
@4orrcountry
@4orrcountry Месяц назад
​@@dwnrange7812 They were? How so? Links? Source?
@JamesPhieffer
@JamesPhieffer Год назад
A light fuel pedal foot will help a lot when it comes to 2wd vehicles. But when it comes to putting the power down under full throttle, there's no comparison. Assuming equal power getting to the wheels, the 2wd is trying to put down twice as much power through each tire compared to the AWD. That means a lot of wheelspin for the 2wd, not much movement.
@Orange_pickles
@Orange_pickles Год назад
All seasons have come along way, particularly from the European manufacturers. However, so have snow tires. I’m running Blizzaks on our 2015 Sienna AWD, and it’s incredibly stable in the snow. Remember kids, AWD helps you go, but tires allow you to stop.
@DejaView
@DejaView Год назад
I've got a set of Toyo "Celsius" on FWD 2009 Sienna. Absolutely unbelievable what I could do & where I could go in the snow. Got a good laugh last winter at the local farmers market. We had a fairly good snowfall & they only plowed a portion of the lot. On a crowded morning numerous people wound up using an unplowed area. Some parts if it already had tracks & were partly packed down but still not easily travelled. I'm pretty good dealing with the snow & I don't do stupid stuff. I think about what I'm doing, but I drove in, parked, & drove out again with virtually no difficulty while watching about a dozen people pushing, shoveling & rocking a hopelessly stuck AWD Lincoln Navigator. You just gotta have tires that are made for the job! I could just dig in & go. Never even activated the traction control...
@christopherryan7178
@christopherryan7178 Год назад
@@DejaView I had celcius on a few cars and loved them but just got Michelins cross climate.. an even better tire all around (a bit $$ but it is what it is)
@LafemmebearMusic
@LafemmebearMusic 11 месяцев назад
@@DejaViewyou got lucky. And it was flat. Add some hills and god save you lol 😅
@adamowens5507
@adamowens5507 10 месяцев назад
my 255/45/19 all season W rated nitto’s were worth every penny , they were about 1200$ . got caught in a few snow storms in my 14’ taurus with front wheel drive. Did really well. Had to climb some steep gravel hills in the deep snow that i didn’t think it would make it up and it climbed right up never broke traction all the way to the top in second gear . never left me stranded at 180k miles now. pulled a chrysler 300 out of the snow once. my buddy buried his 15’ silverado in the drive way and it wouldn’t move in 4 wheel drive, we tried to use it to pull the taurus out . were in deep mud and snow and i took my traction control off on the taurus and gave her he** and it started moving, it rained mud that day. Got out just fine and he was barely able to get his 1980 350 small block out but it did cause it has 35’s and able to pull the newer truck out taurus didn’t budge it.
@R3AL-AIM
@R3AL-AIM Год назад
TC off can do better in the snow with a FWD sedan than having it on. Especially thick stuff, TC will just shut the car down before it gets moving.
@oceanzu6585
@oceanzu6585 Год назад
Depends on the model. My fwd Suzuki once stuck in snow and the TC off did the opposite. Turning off TC will shut down your break assist, and the break based torque vectoring will also be disabled. From my personal experience TC is vital to FWD open diff, cause you will need the TC to distribute the torque.
@jmc6000
@jmc6000 Год назад
@@oceanzu6585 works the exact opposite on a Hybrid transmission
@ArtStamos
@ArtStamos Год назад
Yes all you can do is let the air out on the Hybread and put it in Eco mode. The low profile tires just no good for snow, no way to turn off traction control on hybread
@Zanderthelab
@Zanderthelab Год назад
Unless you ease into it but yes.
@petermacdonald6332
@petermacdonald6332 Год назад
@@ArtStamos maybe the Camry but not all hybrids.
@wanglee21
@wanglee21 Год назад
You guys should show the difference in AWD vs 4WD in snow with the same tires if possible
@jeffrentsch4318
@jeffrentsch4318 Год назад
That is actually what I thought they were comparing. Recently drove my YJ 2x4 high in snow. Amazed how good 3 peak rated tires were. Especially compared to how poor traction is in my long bed 2x4 pickup, also triple peak. Both vehicles have General grabber at2.
@BBBYpsi
@BBBYpsi Год назад
4 WD wins easily
@Anything_Goes1975
@Anything_Goes1975 9 месяцев назад
​@BBBYpsi absolutely incorrect... ON ROADS with snow and ice anyway. ON road AWD is king, off road 4x4 us king.
@robertwright5487
@robertwright5487 Год назад
Truth is that RWD, FWD, and AWD will perform better with dedicated snow tires. Studded snow tires are really great. I totally enjoy your videos. On the lighter side with lots of laughs. 😃
@jeffk464
@jeffk464 Год назад
So Subaru with studded snow tires.
@dakota5571
@dakota5571 Год назад
@@jeffk464 snows a lot where I’m from and I see wrxs with snow tires going 50+ through snowy backroads often.
@iffykidmn8170
@iffykidmn8170 Год назад
@@dakota5571 at 50+ how can you tell what type tires they have?🤔
@OURBENEFACT0RS
@OURBENEFACT0RS Год назад
The snow stopping test should really be done on a flat snow surface without loose show - that variable is difficult to control for otherwise.
@jonathanjoseph9785
@jonathanjoseph9785 Год назад
I agree with you
@Kenneth_R
@Kenneth_R Год назад
The problem was that the Camry had Texas plates. lol
@gino2033
@gino2033 Год назад
This was more of an IQ test them all wheel drive vs front wheel... perhaps a better starting line for both autos.
@jonathans4503
@jonathans4503 Год назад
Also disabling traction control helps a lot in situation like these in fwd cars
@TheGecko213
@TheGecko213 Год назад
Winter tires are more important in snow then AWD
@Wasabi9111
@Wasabi9111 Год назад
Agreed. But going up hill, I think awd has an advantage. It’s too bad there’s a winter tire shortage this yr. It seems like most are already out of stock.
@matteidens62
@matteidens62 Год назад
The AWD on my 21 Camry is fantastic. I've been able to get out of my driveway with ease, even after the snow plows put more snow at the end of the driveway. AWD is always highly recommended
@richscott2483
@richscott2483 10 месяцев назад
Camry Front Bumper Crunch, pieces all over. Do not drive over DPW Snow Plow that gets pushed into your driveway entrance. Could be heavy and ice mixed in. Do not damage your vehicle by taking an unnecessary chances. The Camry is not a snow plow.
@robertsims9201
@robertsims9201 10 месяцев назад
I'll take my ancient 02 Subaru Forrester 5 spd w/ asymmetric AWD any day over Toyota's AWD.
@christopher-gardner
@christopher-gardner 9 месяцев назад
@@robertsims9201 06' Legacy GT here, snow = fun in a Subaru
@nismo_zrz3321
@nismo_zrz3321 8 месяцев назад
@@robertsims9201I’d like to see how that does against a new awd Camry in a race in the snow
@burnthecandleatbothendz
@burnthecandleatbothendz 8 месяцев назад
2022 subaru crosstrek limited owner here .crosstreks are the best !
@Guy_de_Loimbard
@Guy_de_Loimbard Год назад
I'm not sure what everyone's dogging on these two for. Of course the AWD was always going to come out on top; the point was to illustrate the magnitude of the advantage.
@jessewalter8738
@jessewalter8738 Год назад
'82 Nissan Stanza (12 years) '94 Camry (27 years). Many trips DC to Central PA and a few DC to Buffalo in snow. Cars were quite capable. '14 RAV4 AWD and '19 Lexus RX 300 AWD - handle snow a bit better.
@thomasluby1754
@thomasluby1754 Год назад
Would now like to see a real SUV (i.e. Toyota 4Runner, Chevy Tahoe, etc.) go against an AWD compact SUV (i.e. Toyota Rav4, Honda CRV, etc.) in powder like that. My current Ford Escape cannot compete with my old truck based and selectable 4wd SUVs like the 1997 GMC Jimmy, 2000 Jeep Cherokee and 2003 Jeep Liberty. Big difference in the snow. PS Do not ever buy a Ford Escape or maybe any Ford for that matter.
@dwnrange7812
@dwnrange7812 9 месяцев назад
That Mazda also has a far more advanced AWD system than most others, so even more of an unfair advantage in this case
@brytonmunro5270
@brytonmunro5270 8 месяцев назад
People DO NOT realize how good Mazda’s awd system is. I love it in the snow. It’s very predictable and incredibly well composed.
@NotOnYourLife
@NotOnYourLife Год назад
I was shocked to the core to discover that all wheel drive was better than front wheel drive in the snow. It was totally unexpected that twice the drive potential would mean twice the traction potential. That's crazy!!! 😜
@crw3673
@crw3673 Год назад
Your sarcasm is hilarious 🤪
@chrisnah6540
@chrisnah6540 Год назад
Especially when the fwd started in fresh unpacked snow.
@mcsqueegee81
@mcsqueegee81 Год назад
want to see the Mazda vs a subaru wrx or sti. see how well the 2 awd do
@Wigglythegreat2
@Wigglythegreat2 9 месяцев назад
I have a new Mazda Cx30 and put some Bridgestone Blizzaks on because I don't love the Turanza tires that came with it on the snow.
@adrienchan2097
@adrienchan2097 Год назад
I noticed the Mazda side is snow route ready . The Camry side is snow in front of tires .. not shovel yet that’s y Camry was harder to take off too
@ManuelRodriguez001
@ManuelRodriguez001 Год назад
That was really fun! 😂 I think this was a really good real world comparison. That was my exact experience living in CO. I went from a Nissan versa to a Subaru Impreza and I could pretty much go anywhere in the winter. I still remember getting stuck in the a basin parking lot every weekend. That poor versa. Great car otherwise! Cheers and happy holidays 🎄🕎
@reidsgarage1100
@reidsgarage1100 Год назад
Would love to see the awd Camry tested!
@jordanhilton6622
@jordanhilton6622 Год назад
same!!!
@patjackson1657
@patjackson1657 Год назад
Great fun! I just put Nokian all weather tires on my 2013 ES350 Lexus and drove about 800 km (500 mi) in -20 c (-4 f). Grip and stopping were great. Return trip it was around 0c (32 f) and grip and stop were acceptable. The amazing thing was I hit 6.7 l/100km ( 40 plus mpg) out, and 7.4 l/100km (high 30 mpg) on the way back. Some weight needs to be given to driver experience and skill. going out, I passed 2 different Wranglers in the ditch, on their doors!
@bradleymeyer9775
@bradleymeyer9775 Год назад
I wish my 2015 Camry was AWD, for the added assistance in certain situations. Driving in the road with new all season tires, it’s decent though overall.
@45eno
@45eno Год назад
My 2011 Camry with General Altimax Arctic studded was one of the most planted secure cars I have driven in the snow. Sold it to a friend who was more of a 4x4 believer over good tires. He now has a dedicated set of winters for his highlander after driving his equipped Camry.
@crw3673
@crw3673 Год назад
Amazing how Pontiac had a awd car the 6000 STE and S/E models, from 1988 to 1990. The awd sedan concept didn't catch on, but 30 years later is the norm. GM was ahead of their time on a lot of innovations that are the norm now.
@DroneStrike1776
@DroneStrike1776 8 месяцев назад
What are you talking about? So the 1985 BMW 325ix wasn't an AWD sedan? The Subaru Leone was sold in 1972 and it had AWD, wagon, but it still had 4 normal doors. So how was GM ahead?
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Год назад
Keep the tire content coming guys
@syedputra5955
@syedputra5955 Год назад
Not all awd cars are as capable as mazdas snd subarus.
@nathanb780
@nathanb780 10 месяцев назад
Just traded my Camry in for a new Mazda cx-5. First time having AWD and loving it. Good video. Thanks
@lifelover2301
@lifelover2301 Год назад
You would of had a better chance backing up the hill with the camry !
@matthewcullum2455
@matthewcullum2455 Год назад
Bad tires. I live in the sierra with my 2wd camry with the crossclimate 2 tires and have yet to be stuck even in white out conditions. With good tires ground clearance is the main limiting factor
@45eno
@45eno Год назад
AWD on stock all seasons vs FWD on dedicated winter tires. Yes I have tested that scenario for myself to see if I was putting too much emphasis on winter tires. It wasn’t a perfect apples to apples comparison but I tested the 2008 Sienna fwd with blizzaks WS90 vs Subaru 2019 AwD on stock all season. My Sienna was only slightly slower off the start than Subaru. Braking my Sienna was night/day better. For 99% of the time on paved snowy roads I would and do pick FWD with blizzaks over any awd/4x4 with all season tires. As long as I can get going with FWD then I prefer the at speed benefits of superior winter tires with less chance of spin out and FAR better braking performance. I’m not picking my winter vehicle based solely off off the line acceleration. Stopping and turning take priority. AWD with blizzaks is my best option but still have no issue leaving it at home for the extra people space of my van. It’s what I did yesterday cause I needed the entire space of the van. Had no concerns with taking the fwd van out with great tires.
@DejaView
@DejaView Год назад
Have a 2009 Sienna FWD, with Toyo "Celsius" tires (Canadian approved winter tire) Amazing traction with a real winter tire & yes steering & stopping are much improved whereas AWD, in itself, isn't much help with those aspects.
@Livewild779
@Livewild779 Год назад
What do you think of a fwd 2015 crv. I really want this car but I live in New England. I feel like I might regret this purchase.
@45eno
@45eno Год назад
@@Livewild779 I can tell you for certain when I was shopping for a used SUV (RAV4 v6) about 4yrs ago I would have had zero issue buying a FWD if I found a deal. If it was low miles, well kept at a great price I would have bought a fwd without hesitation. I knew I would have a dedicated set of winter wheels anyway for it. I ended up with an AWD version which does give me faster acceleration from a wet road stop and some added climbing ability in light mud, dirt and snow conditions. But I do gain some added expenses like rear differential oil change service and any failure of a tire when they are partially worn down will likely result in 4 new tires vs replacing just one due to the recommendation to keep tires within 2/32 tread difference because of the awd powertrain. I would focus on winter tires and rims for snow capability first and awd focus after the tires. Don’t buy awd as a replacement to proper tires. Or you will simply be less equipped for winter with more maintenance with a all season equipped awd. I went from a Subaru Outback to a family van ( Sienna fwd ) and moved my blizzaks over to the van and wondered if I would regret dropping the awd. First trip to the mountains in snow with good blizzaks confirmed to me that as long as I’m not trying to do deep snow or heavy off road good tires on fwd does great. Last if you have a need to climb dirt, mud or snowy driveways then AWD will be even more worthwhile WITH winter tires.
@Livewild779
@Livewild779 Год назад
@@45eno thanks, I’ve always drove AWD but couldn’t remember how FWD in the snow. The last time I drove FWD was like 15 years ago. I really love the AWD never worry about getting stuck. This car is very low mileage from the south, the right trim level, color. Only thing turned me off was FWD. Seems all you need is really good snow tires.
@jamesf7222
@jamesf7222 Год назад
I left Subaru after a decade and bought a Mazda3 Turbo AWD. Seeing this I feel better about the AWD in the Mazda since we don't usually get a lot of snow in the Mid-Atlantic. I still think I may get a set of Blizzaks and steel rims for it as inexpensive insurance.
@bizmonkey007
@bizmonkey007 Год назад
Why did you leave Subaru? We’re debating between getting a Crosstrek or a Mazda CX-30 or 3. I’m biased in favor of the Mazda but the Crosstrek is stupidly popular where I’m from.
@jamesf7222
@jamesf7222 Год назад
@@bizmonkey007 I own two Subarus currently, a 17 Outback and a 16 Forester. Both of them had their head gaskets go at 90k miles. The other issue was ride quality. I wanted an AWD sedan with more than 225hp. That's the Legacy Turbo or the 3 Turbo and the ride between the two is night and day. That said, if I REALLY had to contend with snowy winters, the Subaru is an obvious choice. The two I own are like mountain goats in bad weather.
@gamebuster800
@gamebuster800 Год назад
There is a Mazda 3 AWD? They don't sell it in my country!
@sailordave1000
@sailordave1000 Год назад
A compact class crossover with same engine but different drive system would be a good comparison. For example, the Kona base engine is available in FWD & AWD
@johnvargas7845
@johnvargas7845 Год назад
I would be nice to see a comparison between AWD: Altima - Camry - Mazda 3, in different situations, all season tires.
@jeffk464
@jeffk464 Год назад
Subaru's symmetrical all wheel drive will work the best. The other systems all take a beat to detect wheel slip and then engage the rear axle.
@bucknut2000
@bucknut2000 Год назад
Wish they did front wheel with winter tires vs 4wd . At one point at had a bmw330xi , my moms, my dads explorer , and my civic si with winter tires . From my experience in a metro area . Hands down I’d take the civic or anything g with winter tires . The explore and bmw were better from a stop in thick snow above like 4 or 5 inches that’s fresh . But when it came to stopping , turning , pure speed on the hwy , the civic blew them away . Last night in Detroit and Toledo, Ohio I still went 65 and the car loved it .
@Guy_de_Loimbard
@Guy_de_Loimbard Год назад
I have the best of both worlds -- AWD with winter tires. Just yesterday I was on a 4-lane highway that hadn't been cleared off yet. Everyone was puttering along in the semi-cleared right lane while I'm bolting past them at 50-some MPH in the unplowed left lane. A few people honked at me like I was an idiot, but I was still on more sure footing than 95% of them since nobody uses winter tires around here. When I did the same a few years ago, a cop swung out of the right lane and started to chase me down (even though I was still under the speed limit so I'm not sure what his issue was). He gave up after about 5 seconds because he knew he was never going to catch me.
@chriscon8463
@chriscon8463 Год назад
Yup! I’d take my wife’s Subaru equipped with studded snow tires over my Jeep Wrangler with all-season tires any day, unless the snow is over a foot deep. Her car accelerates, turns, and stops better with the snow tires on. With truly deep snow, the Jeep does better getting through, though. That said, if I had snow tires on the Jeep, it’d be just as good.
@jeffk464
@jeffk464 Год назад
@@Guy_de_Loimbard Don't let all the gizmos make you overconfident.
@Guy_de_Loimbard
@Guy_de_Loimbard Год назад
@@jeffk464 For the last 18 years I've spent many of my winter weekends racing on frozen lakes. I know perfectly well what my cars are capable of in limited traction conditions and what they're not.
@iffykidmn8170
@iffykidmn8170 Год назад
@@Guy_de_Loimbard driving to fast for conditions is actually a ticket able offense and is up to the police and judge to determine.😉
@GothRocker7
@GothRocker7 Год назад
The Toyota Camry actually does offer all wheel drive, would like to see the all wheel drive Camry in this deep snow, The Mazda 3 with all wheel drive did great. Would also like to see the new Mitsubishi Outlander in this deep snow. The Outlander has S-AWC and I think Mitsubishi has one of the best All Wheel Drive systems from what I have seen and read.
@michaelm5329
@michaelm5329 Год назад
Having lived in Colorado for the majority of my life (since I was 3 - early 1970's), I have owned RWD and FWD cars until February 2015. In my opinion AWD is a luxury if living in the city including Boulder and Denver Metro area. That said since 2015, my daily driver hasn't been and will never be 2WD ever again - 2 different AWD sedans so far since 2015.
@Tallnerdyguy
@Tallnerdyguy Год назад
Lou malnatti has the best pizza.
@TheNewenglandboys
@TheNewenglandboys Год назад
BUT did Andre have the traction control off? And how about the same test with snow tires on the Camry?
@zachlafond2652
@zachlafond2652 Год назад
Another test would be the awd on all seasons and a front wheel drive on dedicated snow tires.
@MikeYurbasovich
@MikeYurbasovich Год назад
I agree. I outdrive awd subarus with all season tires in my accord with snow tires.
@DejaView
@DejaView Год назад
@@MikeYurbasovich Yes, I have FWD Toyota Sienna currently with Toyo "Celsius" tires (Canadian approved winter tire) & can out do the 4 wheelers with poor choice of tires in most situations. Unless you're dealing with more ice than actual snow, these tires really grab & go! You wouldn't think anything could hold in snow like that...
@MikeYurbasovich
@MikeYurbasovich Год назад
@@DejaView I bought those for my girlfriends Honda accord, they are really pretty decent for tires you can drive in the summer, too. The best tires I have found are Nokian Hakkapellita. They have some grit molded into the tire that feel as though you're driving dry pavement on ice. I drove on black ice to work one day, took a couple steps out of my car and busted my head on the ice. Then everyone who came to work was complaining of how slippery it was. It was at that point I realized that I drove normally on this same ice without realizing it. Those tires aren't good with deep slush though. My viking contacts are decent all around winter tires.
@kadenk.3760
@kadenk.3760 Год назад
I think the Camry would've been faster if he drove normally instead of flooring it lol
@ChunkyyHD
@ChunkyyHD Год назад
Should have tried (carefully) driving backwards up the hill with the FWD. It shifts a lot more weight onto the drive wheels and can make hill climbing performance a lot better.
@markschommer7407
@markschommer7407 Год назад
Something I dont see mentioned here is tire width. New vehicles have wider tires than older ones did. Wider tires tend to want to ride on top of the snow then dig in. I've driven a few GM A-bodies in snow and those had narrower tires and those were great in snow. With ordinary all-season tires.
@DigitalHaze65536
@DigitalHaze65536 Год назад
I'm glad my 2021 4Runner Limited came with 245 width tires. That is kinda narrow for the 4800+ pound weight of the vehicle, which is great for snow covered roads. Put some snow rated tires on it and you are ready to go and stop!
@iffykidmn8170
@iffykidmn8170 Год назад
@@DigitalHaze65536 2000 Limited came with 265s and with 265 Blizzaks its almost unstoppable unless I want to stop.😉
@anthonydigiorgio9240
@anthonydigiorgio9240 Год назад
Mazda AWD is very underrated
@vcc1534
@vcc1534 Год назад
I got stuck going up the last hill to my local ski hill in my Mazda Protege 5 so I flipped it around and made it up the hill in reverse! Sometimes you just have to improvise!
@shibmasterkman3176
@shibmasterkman3176 Год назад
I want a Mazda like that now so bad. Great video.
@leonardsmith4202
@leonardsmith4202 Год назад
I live in north central MIchigan, and I have a Toyota Avalon. Just put Nokian WR-G4 all weather tires on it and it's amazing. Obviously can't handle deep snow, but anything up to 6 inches or so it goes like crazy. And the tires are quiet and smooth on dry pavement.
@Buc_Stops_Here
@Buc_Stops_Here 8 месяцев назад
I live on a 650 foot mountain and plowing it is a luxury we don't always get quickly. When I moved here I owned a FWD 2006 Saab 9-3 and a 2003 FWD Honda Accord. Neither car even with snow tires could get up the mountain - I would get warning failures in both cars and they would get stuck. I learned to wait until an uphill approach was plowed and follow the truck up the mountain. I have since replaced both cars with a 2013 Subaru Legacy and a 2018 Buick Envision (I keep cars for at least 10 years and about 150,000 to 200,000 miles). Even with All Weather Tires as rated by Canada, no problems getting home now even with snow on the ground. The big question now is will a hybrid car make it up the mountain with AWD? We know AWD EVs cannot do it.
@aahmed29
@aahmed29 10 месяцев назад
Wow that Mazda 3 did so good!
@jonnyboy6359
@jonnyboy6359 Год назад
Andree did you have traction control on or off on the drag race? It looked like it was robbing power from the wheel to prevent slip.
@4orrcountry
@4orrcountry 8 месяцев назад
A waste of time, not apples to apples.
@sith9898
@sith9898 Год назад
You should have turned off traction control.....lol
@paultice610
@paultice610 Год назад
That is crazy. I used to have a 98 Camry and it was a beast in the snow. It would take off like a rocket ship. Miss that car.
@CM-xb6rb
@CM-xb6rb Год назад
Both of those cars have brand new all-season tires. Now imagine the test with tires with 10k to 30k miles on them and being worn.
@nolldavis128
@nolldavis128 Год назад
Looked like the Camry was starting in deep snow where the all wheel was in already snow tracts.
@Jeddin
@Jeddin Год назад
To everyone saying snow fires would have made both capable. Yes. Of course. But unfortunately almost everyone doesn’t switch out their tires except for the car enthusiast who follow this channel. Heck most of my coworkers still use their summer fires all winter long let alone all seasons. So having awd vs fwd at least provides some safety benefit for people who otherwise wouldn’t switch out their tires anyway even if they should
@richscott2483
@richscott2483 10 месяцев назад
with FWD you want to keep your momentum moving forward and never stop. If you stop with FWD going uphill you are dead in your tracks. Nice experiment, but each vehicle has its advantage and disadvantage. Often it is better to have AWD in snowy climates but it all depends on how you drive. I've been driving for 44 years and never had AWD, it was either RWD and mostly the last 20 years FWD. I live in upstate New York and get an average annual snowfall of 127.3 inches however, over the last decade has appeared to be less and milder winters. You do not need AWD to drive during the winter season. I am a living example since I have never owned or driven a vehicle with AWD nor Four WD in 44 years of driving. My 2023 Camry XSE V6 has Michelin CrossClimate2 tires as the OEM Bridgestone Turanza EL440 A/S are expensive junk and worthless tires basically perform like a dry weather tire where it never rains or see snow. Wife has a 2022 Honda Civic Touring and got 16-inch steel wheels with Michelin X-Ice Snow tires for the winter. The Civic Touring is light weight with a 4-banger turbo and its FWD so with the X-Ice Snow it cuts through the snow much easier. Both the Civic Touring and Camry XSE V6 when more than 4 inches of snow and backing up into a parking spot with Winter tires, takes more time because for whatever reason going in Reverse sucks but going forward is fine. Guess it is poor weight distribution. My old 1995 Ford Taurus was made for winter driving and back in the day my 1975 Dodge Dart (looked like a Chevy Nova) with Slant-V6 would run circle around that Mazda in this video during the winter having snow tires on the Dart. Thanks for the demonstration guys. Liked the humor.
@jimr549
@jimr549 10 месяцев назад
What's you're point in all this? Do you need all wheel drive? No but it sure is nice to have.
@michaelk487
@michaelk487 Год назад
Great video as usual Merry Christmas Happy New Year
@crw3673
@crw3673 Год назад
This is a apple to orange test. Would have been accurate if you could have gotten the same two vehicles in Fwd and Awd models. Fwd sedan vs Awd suv is not fair, especially in snow!🤣
@eli0151
@eli0151 2 месяца назад
I have the opportunity to buy a used Mazda CX 5 Fwd for a great deal. I live in the Midwest, on a steep hill and driveway, and always have issues in ice/snow with my compact fwd car. Should I forgo and get a new AWD vehicle instead? Any suggestions would be appreciated!
@bryantday1703
@bryantday1703 10 месяцев назад
I used to have a 2012 Toyota Camry V6 fwd and she did amazing in the snow in New Hampshire. It’s all on how you drive too and also traction control sucks in the snow it’s better to have it turned off.
@Lovebk98
@Lovebk98 Год назад
That Mazda is good looking.
@hometowndiy9109
@hometowndiy9109 Год назад
Love this test for its real world effect. I hate when test are done on a skating rink. Those road conditions were real world for New England and deep snow has different properties to it. It adds drag especially to a non AWD vehicle. I would love to see this done with multiple styles snows on the Camry and all seasons on the Mazda.
@Silverback_GMT410
@Silverback_GMT410 Год назад
It’s crazy how 4WD drastically changed things.
@glennkullberg9370
@glennkullberg9370 5 месяцев назад
Testing cars in snow with tires we here in the Nordic countries consider summer tires..... only in the US..... Thinking "All Season Tires" actually are ALL season tires.... only in the US.... Driving in snow conditions like in this video is no problem with proper winter tires, even with a 2wd car. Put some (example) Nokian Hakkapeliitta tires on those cars and those stupid "All Season" tires wil be put at shame as they should be (in the winter)
@jimsgaragetoys
@jimsgaragetoys 9 месяцев назад
AWD has nothing to do with braking and steering, just with acceleration. Braking and steering are about the tires in these conditions and since you had different A/S tires none of this is really valid.
@dathyr1
@dathyr1 Год назад
Interesting test of AWD vs FWD. The big advantage of AWD is the initial dead start in heavy snow. I currently have a 2001 FWD Monte Carlo, but mine does the same thing in heavy snow, just don't like it. My next car will have the AWD feature being in Northern Illinois. Plus my driveway is sloped upward quite a bit to get into the garage. Thanks for the demo test of both cars. Take care.
@adamowens5507
@adamowens5507 10 месяцев назад
my taurus is heavier enough to always start moving at least an inch when you gun it with traction control off being fwd with the exception of being in lose sand and moving up hill. i’ve honestly had better experiences with it than i have the awd g35 i owned as far as that goes…don’t like the rear coming out on vehicles but an awd does keep the rear end moving so that helps. It’s long and wide and has wheel spacers and that helped some with keeping it straight in the snow and ice. Running 255/45/19 all season nitto’s, can’t complain about them. I’m near Springfield Missouri. Had a rwd 335i sedan that was the absolute worst to drive in bad weather..my altima coupe did very well. my civic si did terrible. My next car will be a q50 with awd.
@Eyden4321
@Eyden4321 Год назад
I don’t think the braking test makes any sense cuz both AWD and FWD cars are use four wheels to brake 😂.
@Cj1985_GT
@Cj1985_GT 10 месяцев назад
All Season tires are good for Dry Asphalt, Wet Asphalt, Light Sand, Light Mud and Gravel. Theyre pathetic on Snow/Ice. Their arent enough snow sipes to make them a viable option in Snow. Get yourselves a Dedicated Snow Tire and be done. The roads are bad enough dry with people who cant control a car. But adding Ice/Snow to it makes it a very hazardous situation. Their are affordable snow tires out there. Even if u cant afford all 4 in 1 go, buy 1 each paycheck. And make your car into a Controllable Winter Car.
@ElliottTucker1050
@ElliottTucker1050 Год назад
Really depends on the driver, most. Beyond that, next vehicle. No you do NOT NEED a gas hogging 4WD or AWD ffs. FWD & my personal favorite RWD equipped with the right tires makes a world of difference! Learning How to drive where you live, i.e. taking defensive driving courses if not a car enthusiast that has raced(like learned how, not street) - I've passed dweebs in their 🤏d energy lifted gas hogs, Range Rovers, etc with either mudding tires or equally dumb 22" summer performance tires stuck or spinning. Burning gas, as I wiz by smiling, waving Laughing in my RWD & my last RWD Brabus Pearlescent Pink Cabriolet Fortwo 🤣. One I asked IF they needed help.
@tyreleriqson1032
@tyreleriqson1032 Год назад
05:28 - skip through all the bs and get to the race.
@brandonmcfarland5200
@brandonmcfarland5200 Год назад
All Wheel Drive Is More Attractive Than The Front Wheel Drive Unless You Can Get All-Season Tires All-Season Tires Performed Very Well Especially In The Snow Summer Tires Doesn't.If You Want To Get In The Snow Get All-Season Tires.All-Season Tires Can Do Anything & They Are Popular If You Don't Want To Drive In The Snow Get Front Wheel Drive.
@hyuka_ningningforever
@hyuka_ningningforever Год назад
yeah FWD sucks. Especially in minivans. Mom has a 2015 Dodge Grand Caravan SXT. 4,500 pounds. Trying pushing that beast by yourself. It sucks. All my pleas for her to get an SUV with AWD have been unkindly ignored. But what can you do?
@BlueDroneBlues
@BlueDroneBlues 10 месяцев назад
We all get that AWD will take of quicker. The real difference is does it really control better in ice / slush / snow? Answer is no! I am not getting sucked into AWD Dog Shit that requires all tires to be replaced at the same time because AWD is such a pill of dog shit that it will cause expensive issues in no time. FWD works just fine with good snow tires or all weather tires pretty much on stops and in some cases can maneuver better than AWD. Plus, with FWD I don't have to worry about buying a 4 set if I get one flat. AWD is expensive to fix and is far more likely to have issues. F AWD!
@johncipolletti5611
@johncipolletti5611 10 месяцев назад
If the front wheel drive vehicle has a bit more weight in the front, then it will do the job as good as AWD! However, AWD uses more energy to operate. Therefore, on an endurance run on a snowy mountain road, my Bolt beat out all the AWD EVs costing more than $20,000 more in distance and energy. This includes a Tesla.
@woody4u247
@woody4u247 10 месяцев назад
Should've turned off the traction control. The nanny junk gets many people stuck. Jist like off road....theres times you need to spin to keep up momentum... the computers often make things worse.. But AWD/ 4X4 always wins on anything other than pavement
@stromghouls
@stromghouls Год назад
i can garantee you the mazda temperature indicator is very precise. i live in northern canada and i have a 2021 turbo mazda 3. it was -35 celcius this morning where i live and my mazda 3 started easily with no aid and not plugged. record low in my city is -49 celcius in 2016. at about 1 hour drive from my town the record is -51 celcius in 2014. i have owned 4 mazdas and they all perform very well in these extreme climates.
@railfan100
@railfan100 Год назад
The SMALL hatchback fwd's from the not too distant past.....many still on the road......where the best at snow traction.....over these bigger sedans of today with higher horsepower and wider lo pro tires ....Does anybody remember the OLD vw beetle from the 60s/70s? They seemed unstoppable in heavy snow!!
@peachyclean93
@peachyclean93 10 месяцев назад
I had my second car ever a 1997 Dodge Intrepid with a 3.5 l non snow tires in 2007 we had a major snow storm I was passing every truck on the highway to get to work when I got to work I couldn't even open my door That thing was a tank everybody was like does that thing have all wheel drive No it doesn't! My neon was a beast too! Love my front wheel drive vehicles❤
@BenNawrath
@BenNawrath Год назад
Your tires are the only thing that touches the road.. a little bit makes a big difference. That said, you also need to know what you're doing. Seems like Camry guy didn't have great technique either. AND, and I can't stress this enough, the better the traction situation the more potential for a false sense of security. Just because you can accelerate better doesn't mean you'll stop or turn better. Or stop AND turn better, which is often what you have to do in an emergency. Xmas week 2010 I drove my (car then) Civic on all seasons up to Vermont. I then drove my buddy's Subaru on all seasons in the snow just to try it. Then I drove my mom's Subaru with snow tires. The next day, my buddy from before got studded snows on his Subaru, and I tried it. All noticeable improvements over the last. When I was going back and forth to college in the late 90s traversing those Green Mountains, I'd ONLY ever see out of state SUVs and trucks off the road in the snow. Inexperience and that false sense of security.
@jobe20001
@jobe20001 10 месяцев назад
That Camry hybrid was not a great choice. I know someone who owned multiple Camry's and he complained about the hybrid being terrible in the snow, he always bragged about how good his front wheel drive Camry's where until he bought a hybrid, he actually complained about the hybrid getting stuck in a dusting of snow.
@gordis6817
@gordis6817 8 месяцев назад
I haven't even watched the video yet but i can tell you right away that awd destroys fwd and rwd. My first car was fwd, my second car was rwd and now i have awd and i'm never going back. I have gotten stuck so many times with fwd and rwd. I have owned my awd for 2 years and i haven't got stuck once! and i've been driving in some extreme winter conditions. Other cars were totally stuck but i didn't have a problem.
@ezekielochieng8941
@ezekielochieng8941 10 месяцев назад
Wish Honda offered AWD in their accord and civics if I was inclined to buy a crv, pilot, ridgeline or the passport. Unless if you go with the Acura TLX A-Spec/ Type S
@borisscepanovic1684
@borisscepanovic1684 Год назад
I wonder how much Toyota fans are embarrassed now.Or proud because their favorite manufacturer just invented a NO WHEEL DRIVE vehicle.😂😂😂😂
@jessewynne8193
@jessewynne8193 10 месяцев назад
I also hate traction control cuz once your stuck your stuck! And some cars you can’t turn it off. But if you can turn it off you’ll pull yourself out from where your stopped. Since with it off you can spin the wheels. And get grip. And ABS when stopping I’ve noticed takes longer then letting off the brakes and pressing again you’ll stop sooner! Even sooner if you put in neutral if you have to stop fast. Snow or not. The transmission is still pushing and not disengaging fast enough during an emergency stop
@tomaszbudnik521
@tomaszbudnik521 11 месяцев назад
FWD sucks on snow or ice... AWD is WAY better... Why? because wheels in AWD need to transfer only half of momentum needed to move compared to FWD. When there is limited amount of traction each Nm makes a difference...
@michaelmartin2276
@michaelmartin2276 9 месяцев назад
Does the Camry have a CVT transmission ? Mazda doesn't use CVT,'s I believe. How about testing the bast and most popular all AWD cars, Subaru !
@anthony-i1k8c
@anthony-i1k8c 10 месяцев назад
I have two AWD cars with all season tires. I have a FWD car with winter dedicated tires. Even without snow tires the AWD'S spank the FWD with winter tires. Just my experience.
@theamazinggoldfish8713
@theamazinggoldfish8713 Год назад
I have an 2021 Subaru Impreza "sport" 🤣 hatchback but I only have 5" of clearance so, I don't know if my Subie could do that either.....🏹🤠👍
@richrigney4610
@richrigney4610 Год назад
You can't just say "The Camry is 2 wheel drive." It's Front Wheel Drive which is a big difference as opposed to Rear Wheel Drive especially in the snow.
@russ2714
@russ2714 Год назад
Guys, this video was kinda a waste of time, I mean of course AWD will beat FWD in deep snow. Perhaps a more interesting match-up would be the AWD car with stock all-season tires Vs FWD with some good (narrow) snow tires.
@mauricedelrosario22
@mauricedelrosario22 Год назад
Go to TYRE REVIEWS on youtube and you will get a much better review of snow tires vs all season, rwd vs fwd winter, fwd vs all wheel drive winter, awd all season vs fwd winter, etc….. they did all the combinations and did it in a more controlled manner which was not opinionated!
@oscarethan8470
@oscarethan8470 Год назад
I like to know what happens with the video chevrolet silverado 1997 vs high country on the farm 🚜 the one looks to bad the over 50 000 dollars 💸 💵 truck vs chevy silverado not the same price? I look 👀 for the video and I don't found any more I think chevrolet enforce too removed the video?
@EskieRC
@EskieRC 10 месяцев назад
"Hey guys! Wanna ask the stupidest question in the world and make a video about it!?!? LETS DO IT! Hey, for the next video, lets see if 4 guys of the same size can carry more weight than 2 guys! Oh man! This is such great content!"..... You guys are literally the worst.
@richardjacobs7632
@richardjacobs7632 Год назад
Do you have snow tires? That makes a big difference too! We are in the Mid Atlantic we don’t usually need snow tread unless we are medical or first responders
@bondjames652
@bondjames652 10 месяцев назад
I would bet the sidewall makes a difference. These low profile winter tires are terrible. It's better to have a high sidewall so the tire has give and absorbs the snow and ice ... Am all season tire 215 75 r15 will be much better than 215 50 r 15..
@daveh6627
@daveh6627 Год назад
how about "real world" driving? Drive a set route with a mix of surfaces, hills, curves and speeds. Score it by the number of times the car gets squirrelly, has trouble moving or stopping. Lowes score wins.
@cowmoo007
@cowmoo007 Год назад
Andre looks like AKA Bobby the grandfather my deceased father! Also Andre is only 5 foot 5 inches same size as AKA Tom Cruise Bobby The Grandfather too!
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