IS "HERITAGE" RUINING MOTORCYCLES? (Honda Rebel 1100 vs Indian Scout)

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@yammienoob 3 года назад

Don't miss the Honda Rebel 1100 giveaway!! Go to www.yammienoobmerch.com or www.yammienoob.co

@cbr500rrradam8 3 года назад

The Scout only dynos at 83 wheel horsepower in real life I know Indian claims 100. The Rebel actually dynos at 87 whp. See what im saying?

@chefboyrdumbass5002 3 года назад

The 2017 honda africa twin dynos at 94 whp and 72ftlbs

@Phantom_Yur 3 года назад

Royal Enfield Please. Day 2

@extrameatsammich 3 года назад

Get a used Thunderbird 1600/1700 - it is a LOT of bike for $5000.

@Phantom_Yur 3 года назад

@BryanMatthew7 Schwabenland I know I just want Yam to finally ride one so he can see it's not "a hunk of junk", like he says.

@clintcarpentier2424 3 года назад

Indian scout - "There's a road, let's see where it goes." Honda rebel - "There's a destination, let's go find it!"

@robertdrawdy3749 3 года назад

Each one is good for any rider. Cause your on two wheels

@callefalk4457 3 года назад

WTF???

@clintcarpentier2424 3 года назад

@@callefalk4457 Hey?

@TerryFT86 3 года назад

@@clintcarpentier2424 dude probably a fan boy or works for some marketing team.

@vishalanandsingh 3 месяца назад

Could not have put it better. Very poetic.

@franmarch 3 года назад

Japanese manufacturers are killing it. They are producing amazing bikes with great performance and affordable prices.

@Stevehinken10 3 года назад

natch

@GraubiGames 3 года назад

Well if you think about it, Japanese actually make totally brutal machines in any space. Totally love my Toyota Rav4 as well! I actually don't buy german cars anymore.

@callefalk4457 3 года назад

WTF???

@whimsicalstray 3 года назад

Always have been.

@franmarch 3 года назад

@@GraubiGames I also owned a Japanese car!!

@rayseaman6204 2 года назад

I think YOU BOTH are confused ! The Indian was made for people who like Nostalgia, but do not want to buy a Harley Davidson. The Honda Rebel was made for the New Generation, and THEY EXPECT Performance, Comfort, and Convinience... NOT EXCUSES !!!

@easy8077 3 года назад

The "RPM ceiling" of the Rebel has a simple reason I got told by a Honda-Dealer yesterday: Honda usually caps the accessable power of their engines (car and bike) at 80% to keep their engines run longer and more reliable, so basically the redline on a Honda is still not really stressing the engine

@Real_MisterSir 3 года назад

Well to a degree that's true, but it's been lowered even further from the Africa Twin, which is already a very easy-going engine that has been engineered to give less potential performance, for the sake of reliability and being able to run on shitty fuel you find in remote parts of the world. The Rebel hasn't had its rev limit lowered even further for the sake of longevity and reliability, the engine is perfectly fine for that job already. They've made changes so that its entire power delivery is different, more of it available down low and at speeds that are more common for cruise style riding rather than offroad/highway bashing.

@JViello Год назад

It's probably because the power is at a much lower rpm due to a cam change and other variables would be my guess. That or perhaps they removed/reduced the size of a secondary harmonic balance shaft to give it more "character" and lowered the "comfortable rpm limit" in kind. Stories like "only goes to 80% for engine longevity" etc IMO scream urban legend. The engines spend such little time up there, and the whole idea that the rotating assembly will be under duress past the redline but fine below just doesn't make sense...at least from an engineering standpoint. So thinks this engineer anyhow. PS. Lugging an engine can be just as if not more damaging to the rod bearings than over spinning it.

@ALizardInCrimpson 3 года назад

Spite: Harley Davidson is holding back motorcycles with old school tech Royal Enfield: 🤐

@martenthijssen8406 3 года назад

Yes but Royal enfield makes it cool to ride non-tech motorcycles, harley davidson is just lacking

@mervinmcdougall8854 3 года назад

Royal Enfield doesn't charge you an arm and a leg to enjoy that old-school tech.

@patricksandeberg8184 3 года назад

Compared to Japanese and European bikes... HD Is old school! 🤣

@RazorusR3X777 3 года назад

@@mervinmcdougall8854 They also don't blow up like they're made in China.

@nathanwagner7937 3 года назад

I think people would be more forgiving of Harleys if it wasn’t for their premium-price reputation, or if they had a higher perceived value proposition other than looking cool and having expensive metal parts.

@davidjoel111 3 года назад

I don’t get why manufacturers are not making a bike with both heritage looks and performance, I love the looks of cruisers but I hate fighting them on the corner, I hate scraping pegs, I hate to bottom out my suspension because it only have 2” of travel and overpaying for it. Its hard to believe that a “heritage” bike costs more than a fully featured bike.

@gregorsamsa1364 Год назад

The shape of a cruiser limits the ability to make it perform more like a sport bike

@nelsonphilip4520 3 месяца назад

Yamaha tried to walk that thin line b'twn Cruiser bike styling and sport bike performance with the original Virago.

@Real_MisterSir 3 года назад

The problem with brands like Harley and Indian is that when they design a motorcycle, they come up with a pricetag to match the bike's image rather than its parts, and then they just add whatever parts they feel are "just good enough" to keep that image alive. That means shitty suspension and brakes, poor material choices in many areas, limited innovation, old parts, and a whole lot of compromises - but these compromises are still chosen because they don't directly violate that cruiser mindset. But when you add up all the parts and look at the overall picture, especially when considering new customer segments, this is a recipe for digging one's own grave. Honda made a concept, then matched the pricetag to the parts they deemed necessary for that future customer segment. Not the other way around. You don't have to pay a premium just to buy into a "lifestyle product". You don't have to pay a premium for a name or a "feeling" which inevitably makes many compromises overall on the sheer lack of current-day value per part used. You don't have to pay a premium and then be lured into buying new parts for upgrades because "it's just a part of of owning this kinda bike". You don't have to pay a premium for objectively poorer-than-average reliability. Basically Honda is just selling you a bike, like any other, except it happens to be a cruiser style. It doesn't take itself too seriously, and it doesn't expect you to do so either - and that is a strong selling point when your target is customers that are not swayed by companies that brand themselves on concepts like "Heritage and lifestyle" instead of just making a product that sells itself.

@BrandonWest87 2 года назад

“Heritage” is the same nonsense that has active duty sailors still in this day wearing WOOL UNIFORMS with a gigantic flap full of buttons in the pants that sailors in wooden ship days wore, but still wearing them on ships with friggin thermonuclear reactors for engines. A hopeless pining for heritage holds everything back. FTN

@StirbMensch 3 года назад

Guys, I think we are all forgetting that Honda has delivered a legendary sporty cruiser quite some decades ago... it's called the Magna!

@christopher7026 3 года назад

A new magna would get me and my checkbook into a dealer immediately. My old VF is gettin’ tired!

@sleeper.simulant7327 3 года назад

Those v4’s put the power down

@daverattle5636 3 года назад

I wanted a modern Magna so I bought the Rebel 1100. I love it but it's not exactly what I was looking for so keeping my '85 V45 Magna!

@robertdrawdy3749 3 года назад

Shit my 97 magna is still more sporty in a corner than a rebel 500. And the magna is damn near 540lbs. I still ride her and my scout bobber

@callefalk4457 3 года назад

WTF???

@newscootgoofin 3 года назад

I’m gonna be honest. I might be alone on this but Y’all talk about aesthetics, and when y’all turned around face to face on the go pro, Whitney on the Honda looked pretty cool. I actually dig the style of the rebel

@elite_eight4486 2 года назад

i honestly can't believe that you and other 67 persons prefer the look of that....thing....to the scout. My brain can't process it

@newscootgoofin 2 года назад

@@elite_eight4486 where did I say it was better than the scout? I hope you can reconcile these feelings within you someday. Godspeed

@MrSwitchblade327 Год назад

@@elite_eight4486 ever ride one?

@elite_eight4486 Год назад

@@MrSwitchblade327 i have the scout, why the hell should i want to ride that 😂😂🤢

@nducation8039 Год назад

The Harley sport glide looked awesome, but this Indian looks soooo old compared to it and especially compared to the Honda.

@dftweedie3021 3 года назад

Ho hum ... let's can the 'Grandpa' stereo-typing. One ride on the Rebel 1100 and I couldn't trade in my Honda Shadow 750 fast enough. I'll be 75 this summer and I know what I want in a bike: reliability, versatility and fun!

@BrandonWest87 2 года назад

I mean, they aren’t wrong. Most grandpa aged dudes I know want a bike to “recapture the feeling of rebellious youth” in which they find riding a harley or Indian to the bar and back to be the vehicle of choice. The other 20% hop on goldwings to actually go ride and throw thousands upon thousands of miles down to tour.

@rottweilerfun9520 3 года назад

Call the Rebel a Roadster instead of a cruiser, it might make more sense that way.

@ronladuke7235 3 года назад

That rebel is a no brainer, tried and true engine, legendary quality, low maintenance, and don’t tell me a bike that feels crappy in a corner is a good thing no matter what style bike it is.

@robertdrawdy3749 3 года назад

As somebody who owns the scout bobber and used to daily a 97 honda magna. Its really not the suspension its really a problem with the tire size in the front thats what makes it harder to corner. Its like comparing a busa vs a R6 they are the same-ish style bike but have different intended riders. The scout feels extremely good on long hauls and a rebel 500 not so much because of its front tire. You get pushed in the wind quite a noticable amount more than on a scout. Its just the inertia working against it in a corner

@jamesmoulson9854 3 года назад

@@robertdrawdy3749 I had a 1994 and then a 2002 Honda Magna and I really regret selling them. I now have a 2011 Triumph Speedmaster and that bike is a slug compared to the Magna. Thank God I also have a 2012 cb1000r for fun riding.

@robertdrawdy3749 3 года назад

@@jamesmoulson9854 ueah turned one into a bobber and sold it then recently bought another and i hated myself after i sold the first one... So im keeping it. Its only the 750 tho

@callefalk4457 3 года назад

WTF???

@nomercy4521 3 года назад

Does it feel crappy in a corner though? I've ridden a bunch of different bikes and the Scout is a ton of fun. I never felt like I had problems braking, turning, or with bumps in the road. Do some bikes do those things better, yes, but for me the Scout is faster, more comfortable, and better looking than the Rebel. No issues over the last two years, so we'll see how Indian's reliability is.

@AE86FTS 3 года назад

Insert Ryan F9's "because it's iconic" line

@altortugas5979 3 года назад

That video he made was great.

@andikaandrianto2803 3 года назад

"And that is something to be proud of"

@callefalk4457 3 года назад

WTF???

@AE86FTS 3 года назад

@@callefalk4457 ???

@LightCrasher 3 года назад

Why dont they make something iconic AND modern then? Oh, wait, there is Harley V-rod, but dumass fanbase rejected it. Thats the problem. Classic bikes lag behind in tech because their audience can't take progress.

@gulfcitynd 3 года назад

Any bike that is comfortable for me can be cruised hell my 150cc is comfortable to ride not the fastest but I like it

@1969cmp 3 года назад

......yep, get on and ride. I had a lot of fun on my 1980/81 DT175 back in the day.....and still would today.

@callefalk4457 3 года назад

WTF???

@larrywade9041 3 года назад

I agree nicholas. But to make these bike video's they have to get technical these day's. Since i'm almost (70)y.o., & riding since (16)y.o., I can remember when you appreciated just having a motorcycle w/o all of the bullshit that they load up on these bike's nowaday. Oh for yesturyear's!!! Wished I could go back to the 60's & 70's. By the way; I've had (0) accident's in those 50yrs. Due to a free thing called "common sense". Imagine something for free!! Hum!!! But I do love my 2007 Moto Guzzi! Illinois, U.S.A.

@Dee-ub4eq 3 года назад

I agree!

@johntheaccountant5594 3 года назад

Yep, out of all my motorbikes, my Honda Monkey makes me smile the most.

@michaelmarciano5237 3 года назад

It’s a sport cruiser. They are a class of their own. Honda started this with the 83 cx turbos. Even the Yamaha vmax is closer to that rebel than the scout

@blakeswain3705 2 года назад

Also the 80s honda magma, I’d love to find one of those in good condition

@spectreboy55 3 года назад

I've rode Harleys for the last 30 years with a few silly fast Japanese bikes as secondary toys. Bought a "used" 2018 Scout with 1100 miles on it 2 months ago and I'm almost totally happy with it except for the minimalistic fuel tank. Looked at a lot of different bikes but the Scout put the biggest smile on my face. To each their own that's what it's about, nuff said.

@awesomeerr8765 3 года назад

Don't purchase things because of their history, purchase them because they are great value.

@johnjohnson5496 3 года назад

how do you define value though? If bike A is a great value but it brings you no joy, why would you not go for bike B that might not make some corporate accountant happy, but brings a smile to your face every time you ride it? What if a bike's heritage and pedigree being reflected in their current models IS what someone considers valuable to them? Are they not then getting a bike with great value?

@bruhwhat7863 3 года назад

@@johnjohnson5496 he was obviously referring to performance/tech

@johnjohnson5496 3 года назад

@@bruhwhat7863 and?

@callefalk4457 3 года назад

WTF???

@Hazardxv 3 года назад

Kinda ignoring the fact that people value heritage.

@stephenwilder2320 3 года назад

I think we younger generations of motorcycle riders aren’t into the loud pipes of normal cruisers. I believe we’ll likely be seeing a lot more parallel twin cruisers in the future. Younger people that want the cruiser style and comfort don’t want to sacrifice that sporty feeling. We can get the best of both worlds with the parallel twin.

@DoctorMotorcycle 3 года назад

This x2, Always felt that the 270 degree crank parallel twin is the best motor for 90% of street motorcycles. Great sound, easy packaging, doesn't run hot even when air cooled, great power. Vtwin rear cylinders always make the bikes uncomfortable in warm climates (Ducati, Harley).

@1400IntruderVS 3 года назад

@@DoctorMotorcycle I have a Triumph Thunderbird Storm with Hogslayer exhaust and she is only loud when twisted. I just like all motorcycles ,if they all had the same personality they wouldn't be as engaging.

@Full_Otto_Bismarck 3 года назад

Honda already did all this with a v4 in the Magna line its not something limited to a parallel twin and Ducati has shown you can get a comfortable and good handling bike with a v-twin in the older multistradas (i think they just went to a v4 on the upcoming 2022 models).

@leoglasmeyer2853 2 года назад

Also we tend to forget climate change is a thing and prohibitions in sound, emissons, obligatory abs etc. are more common each year, at least in the western world. Boomers be like "pussies we had big loud motorcycles with smoke and less technology and we were happy" like bruh we know, now we have to pay for it. So these things completely affect modern rides and us, with many more years ahead have to take it more seriously in consideration.

@ML-nj8fq 2 года назад

@@leoglasmeyer2853 Climate change is a scam. You riding a mildly less efficient bike does nothing to the environment, while the govt and corporations that tax you for emissions and environmental BS pollute 100x more than the population.

@frogstyleninja31 2 года назад

I'm actually shopping around for a new bike. The Rebel 1100 and the Scout Bobber are among my top prospects. The Rebel is clearly the better product when it comes to performance, features, and value. My logical brain wants me to get the Rebel. It would take an extra investment in upgrades to get the Scout Bobber to perform closer to where I how I'd like. HOWEVER, the Scout has WAY more style. It's aesthetic is classic and timeless. Even if you think the Rebel is a good looking bike, ask yourself if you could say that several years from now. Just look at some of the dorky looking bikes that came out of earlier decades. Those did not age well. If you put the Scout in a time machine it would look good whether you sent it back in time or forward. Hence my emotional brain wants me to get the Scout. Also, while I am impressed with the tech and features of the Rebel, I find myself wondering when I will actually use them. When will I have a need to change ride modes? It doesn't even rain very much here in Los Angeles. So I'm really torn. All I know is that either choice is better than my Iron 883. lol

@moflyzone8360 11 месяцев назад

What’d you get?

@Slopes27 11 месяцев назад

Same here man but between the Scout Bobber and the Harley Sporster S. I love the looks of the Bobber but love how the Sporster S has the entire package. 😫😫😫 this is so hard to decide specially when most dealers don’t even let you test drive it.

@gregorsamsa1364 5 месяцев назад

Seems kinda weird to choose a bike based on speculations about what people will think of it's looks in the coming decades. As for me, I much prefer the aesthetics of the rebel. I think the old(real) scouts are awesome but I don't dig the look of these new ones so much

@marcrutzenhoff3461 3 года назад

Again a video that states the poor brakes, the poor suspension and the poor tires of the Indian Scout. Please consider that you ride an older version of the scout. I think its a pre 2020 bike... When comparing the Scout to a brand new Honda Rebel 1100 you'd better choose the new version of the scout with improved brakes and suspension and Pirelli NightDragon tires so that the comparison is on the same level, technically. I own the 2021 version of the Scout and sure can tell you that this makes really a difference. Just my 2 cents. Keep up the good work. Cheers from germany :)

@EazyDuz18 3 года назад

Still pathetic they released such a POS bike in 2020

@justinneilson1263 2 года назад

@@EazyDuz18 it's not 2020 did you read the comment. He said PRE 2020

@EazyDuz18 2 года назад

@@justinneilson1263 still a POS regarding of year

@MannohneIceman 3 года назад

I always feel that I'm thinking about some motorcycle topic and yammie noob always releases a video about the topic 20min later

@jgcapers3860 3 года назад

I wish that the Rebel 1100 was the standard for the modern cruiser.

@leostask 3 года назад

As a scout owner, I fit the description of a scout rider you described perfectly! I just want a gas gage!

@rodolfosabater7781 2 года назад

Checking the milage will do just fine... but a gas guage would be fuckin awesome..

@Darvin-Hams-burner-account 2 года назад

So you can only tell you need gas when the E lights up?

@BrandonWest87 2 года назад

No, you can tell you need gas when the bike starts sputtering while you’re doing highway speeds so that you have to reach under your left leg, find the fuel switch, flip it to reserve, then find a gas station, fill up, REMEMBER to switch back to normal so the next time the bike sputters out of gas you don’t find yourself stranded and needing to hitch a ride to the gas station with a can of gas. Yeah, heritage rocks…

@Brusilnik 3 года назад

I've been riding sport bikes and standards ever since I've been into riding. I got my rebel 1100 because it seemed like a cruiser with performance and technology you would normally only find on sport and adv bikes.

@sli8462 3 года назад

You would've been way better off then on a Diavel or Rocket 3. Those are "cruisers" with MUCH better performance and way better aesthetics than this Rebel to transition from sport bikes. I think a Diavel or M109R is next on the list for me

@Brusilnik 3 года назад

@@sli8462 I agree they're better performing bikes, but I liked the price of the rebel better. If I wanted to spend the money, I would just buy a better sport bike. To be completely honest, if the MT-10 was updated this year, in would have gotten that instead. Love that engine. I don't regret my decision getting the rebel at all though.

@Brusilnik 3 года назад

@@MrBeardedgelfling never really checked out the bonneville, looks like the old standard bikes I used to ride.

@callefalk4457 3 года назад

WTF??

@Brusilnik 3 года назад

@@callefalk4457 what?

@tylersolorzano2838 3 года назад

Really enjoyed the discussion at the end, very enjoyable and flushed out the key differences between these bikes

@andrewwhittenburg8723 3 года назад

You didn't hear? The spirit of the cruiser lives in that beautiful pony tail brother!

@benpielstick 3 года назад

Oh hey, you're still here. I can't believe you made it to the end of the video. Not many people...

@serious_in_seattle6917 3 года назад

Not many people can listen to Spit all the way to the end of a video. Ain’t that the truth. All he does is bash Indian. He’s upset because H-D is slowly dying and Indian is thriving.

@WalrusWinking 2 года назад

The Scout isn't "all steel" the engine block is multiple parts aluminum as well as the frame.

@salvadorHombre 3 года назад

This whole thing feels totally unnecessary. These bikes target very different riders. The Rebel is for someone who appreciates a quality built bike that can be ridden hard down a twisty road and is comfortable enough to go a whole day while not looking like a nerdy Adv bike. The Harley has always been for the "badass" biker "man" who wants to associate with that badass biker image even though the actual bike is garbage by 2021 standards. The Indian Scout is for the hipster who wants a retro bike that doesn't have most of a retro bike's issues but still feels and handles like one.

@ganuvien 3 года назад

Exactly, and legendary reliability of Hondas and low maintenance! Also DCT is a massive gamechanger that gives people with physical disabilities or missing limbs a chance to ride again. People liked dynas for a reason, they handled good kinda. I'd like a little more powerful motor in a sporty cruiser though with more comfort for a 6ft+ rider which is why I hope the H2 vulcan from kawi becomes a reality(or a 1k inline 4).

@nomercy4521 3 года назад

Sounds rather insulting really.

@jocoloco1320 3 года назад

So when you were giving away the scout, it was all that and a bag of chips! Now you’re giving away a Honda rebel, it’s the bees knees! Lol! GTFOOH!!!😂

@dnice4431 3 года назад

Right!? These guys are wayyyyy flavor of the month.

@altortugas5979 3 года назад

The Scout is kinda like loving vanilla before anyone invented chocolate. The Rebel 1100 gives you a waffle cone for free.

@jocoloco1320 3 года назад

@@altortugas5979 nah, money talks. I’m guessing if Harley gave them a bike, they’d goes as far as saying they’re the best motorcycle maker on the planet.

@callefalk4457 3 года назад

WTF????

@thebusinessbuddha1278 3 года назад

Wow excellent format. Such a laid back presentation. I love it.

@Jagknorr 3 года назад

I don’t get how its a negative to you guys when the bike does more than one thing. “Its confused!” No, its not a one trick pony.

@Real_MisterSir 3 года назад

Thank you. Normally a bike doing many things can mean it doesn't excell at anything, but the Rebel doesn't do worse in any category really. Overall it's just better than the Scout at a lot of things. That isn't bad, and it doesn't mean the bike doesn't know what it wants. It just means it's a cleaner slate for the rider to define what they want their bike to be to them. The bike doesn't define that choice for them. Hence how it is rebellious towards the standardized cruiser approach.

@nomercy4521 3 года назад

I believe the idea is that it doesn't do any one thing the best and that can kind of feel wonky to ride. Like you aren't as comfy on it as other cruisers, but it doesn't handle as well as a sport bike, it isn't as fast as either.

@andrewb7622 2 года назад

My wife has the rebel and I have the scout. It pretty much comes down to whether you want that american bike feel or the japanese bike feel. Both are nice but I wouldn't trade with her. Loud n proud

@joshuawilliams194 2 года назад

I'm with u.

@good-tn9sr 11 месяцев назад

damn i need a wife

@colinlockwood6615 3 года назад

This is the video ive been waiting for!!

@adamc6512 3 года назад

Just here to say Whitney is great! Have her on more!

@ivanjulian2532 3 года назад

I personally got the impression she had very little idea what she was talking about.

@SirDevonG 3 года назад

@@ivanjulian2532 same

@bruhwhat7863 3 года назад

@@ivanjulian2532 definitely

@lusjsjmsmsksm7347 3 года назад

@@ivanjulian2532 why

@coldmoonlight6361 3 года назад

@@ivanjulian2532 it sounded to me like she just has a different view/experience/opinion about cruisers.

@allancooper3865 3 года назад

The reason why i would chose a Vulcan S , or Honda rebel , or the scout , is because they are water cooled and that it seems to be a better engine , idk I could be wrong but I want a modern water cooled engine !!!💯💯💯and Harley’s are slow , heavy , and very expensive , like why buy a new Harley , when you could have two rebels or two Vulcan s or two scouts , I know I want two bikes in my garage , when one needs maintenance , I can jump on the other and take my time doing the maintenance on the other 🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️

@serious_in_seattle6917 3 года назад

I agree. H-D should modernize their bikes with water cooled engines that don’t vibrate and shake like crazy. He compares the Scout to the Honda and complains that it lacks rider modes. 😆 What does H-D offer other than a shaky, oily, “lifestyle” and overweight bikes that cost too much?! For heritage styling with quality and reliability I’ll buy Indian, Triumph, and BMW R nine T. Never a Harley.

@grey5135 2 года назад

The 1100 reminds me of a modern take on a baby VMAX. And I mean that as a complement. I think that thing is going to sell like crazy.

@itzeberg 3 года назад

I totally dig how you did the comparison, good job! And I also appreciate Whitney in the videos. She brings a new flavor and a new angle of seeing things. A great asset to the channel!

@farooqkhan3729 10 месяцев назад

On the contrary, I think he was prodding her and asking her all the right questions to lead her to offer perspectives. But she was very reluctant and left the viewer without answers to some of those first-person point-of-view impressions.

@markthompson7983 3 года назад

Honda at one time did do both - The Magna - V-4, sporty, good in the corners, as well as a great cruising motorcycle. Honda should take another crack a the V-4 boulevard cruiser.

@fj60driver 3 года назад

Maybe now that the Scout isn't competing against only the Sportster and similar bikes Indian might step up their game on the suspension

@danielwardley4185 3 года назад

I think Indian got the Scout really authentic, right down to the suspension, its hopeless.. but that motor is what makes a cruiser. the Honda is the Toyota of nostalgia.

@wilgeorgeleenders9041 Год назад

The comparison i was looking for!! Thanks!! Purchasing the Rebel 1100 in a while. :)

@andrewwalters4271 3 года назад

I much prefer the styling and mid-peg placement of the Rebel. Can never get used to the damn foot forward, toes pointed at the sky pegs most cruisers sport.

@Gortok1 3 года назад

The floorboards on my Victory are comfortable at MID position...perfect. Red DCT for me, thank you.

@serious_in_seattle6917 3 года назад

Mid controls are available for the Scout.

@VileProject 3 года назад

I kinda dig the couples-ride vibe, and good analysis all around. Great Job guys.

@johnjohnson5496 3 года назад

they're not a couple lol

@callefalk4457 3 года назад

WTF????

@SwoleNpatrolN 3 года назад

It's time for Honda to revive the Legendary MAGNA

@DoubleClutcher 2 года назад

I personally adore the heritage look more than anything.

@yoyo-gd6ff 3 года назад

I still think the V-twin brings a charm that can't be beaten, that looks just so beautiful, especially compared to an inline 2

@versatile_yt4838 3 года назад

100%

@parkersgarage4216 3 года назад

💯, that torque on a v twin is lovely. Then you have that music coming from the exhaust.

@cbr500rrradam8 3 года назад

@@parkersgarage4216 The Rebel makes more torque than the Scout though on dyno

@elevationmoto6208 3 года назад

Love the sleek muscular looks of my Scout, but not that Rebel 1100, which may be better ride. Style is of great importance to me, so no way do I want a Rebel 1100 over my Scout.

@parkersgarage4216 3 года назад

@@cbr500rrradam8 a negligible amount. Scout looks better and def has a higher quality fit and finish. I can't believe honda went w a damn chain though. That was dumb.

@TuntunGamer 3 года назад

I find it crazy, that a Triumph simp has not featured the Bobber during these cruiser retro segments. OR for that matter a Speed Twin. In fact, he suggested the Rebel 1100 over the Speed Twin on the Yamcast recently and they couldn't be more different and not comparable in my opinion.

@drewmoto732 3 года назад

He’s only a Street3/Daytona Simp

@particleinthewave8378 3 года назад

If not the Speed Twin than a direct comparison with the SpeedMaster Bonnie variant

@callefalk4457 3 года назад

WTF??

@chefboyrdumbass5002 3 года назад

Can you test out the honda africa twin

@aarons3008 3 года назад

Yes would love to see a Honda A/T test please!

@chefboyrdumbass5002 3 года назад

@@aarons3008 he gets it

@callefalk4457 3 года назад

WTF??

@miltonsmith3114 3 месяца назад

I have a 2022 Scout with aftermarket pipes. My neighbor has the Rebel 1100. We stopped at a stop sign and my friend revved his engine. Then I revved mine with those pipes and it made me laugh. My sound was awesome! His sound was almost un-noticeable. Also, the looks of the Scout with the chrome is awesome! So, I'm glad that I have my Scout!!

@donhenderson5100 3 года назад

Just ride and enjoy the view. Don't worry about fitting a group or style label. They have differences and tailor that to your riding style. Interesting to compare, for sure.

@CaptainJacksIsland 3 года назад

Been riding a Scout for nearly 2 years and I don't agree with the criticism about cornering to the degree they make it out to be. Far as I can tell, it just seems like they never built a physical connection with the bike and they're skiddish about leaning it over. In the videos I've seen, they're not even close to pushing that thing... at least not in a corner. Obviously, Yammie put it in yeet mode during the mini-drag race.

@sli8462 3 года назад

I agree. Switch up the tires and go grind down the pegs

@kencolle1 3 года назад

I agree,they make it out to be something that cant turn,cant stop,is heavy and only wants to go straight..maybe they need to learn to ride better.. and criticize because it doesnt have ride modes?? Come on now..I should add that Ive had a bobber for over 3 years and I can sure as heck hustle it around.

@Jefferson-603 3 года назад

I have had a 21 Scout Bobber 20 for a little over a month now and I lay it down all over the place I love the hell out of this bike. I'm not going to lie I was thinking about the 1100 but the riding style just not comfy and the bike is ugly.

@kencolle1 3 года назад

@@Jefferson-603 nice.. get some upgrades on it I have the Indian performance air box, rcx slip-ons and a reflash from Indian. Also have Metzler Cruz Tech tires, I installed a Barnett clutch and cable, Eagle light headlight and some other stuff. LOL. I've also drag race it and overall just have a blast on it

@Jefferson-603 3 года назад

@@kencolle1 I have the Indian stage one intake with reflash and Dean speed slip-ons sounds amazing.

@HobbiesWithMike 3 года назад

Lol “oh geez, your just trying to pump out a bike here” that one got me

@copee599 3 года назад

More Whitney and Spite contentttt! so wholesome this duo

@edmoulder7579 3 года назад

Great Video. Getting back on a bike after nearly four decades, I have just bought the Rebel 500 (last Saturday). You never forget how to ride. Being only 5ft 3 ins tall (or short), I needed something with a low seat height, and after extensive research decided the Rebel was the way to go. Maybe in a year or two, when I'm more confident, I'll move up to the 1100, but for now, on UK roads, the 500 seems fine. I don't think we've got the 1100 over here yet, it's only available to pre-order. I can't imagine how the Scout would cope with the fact that there are very few straight roads here in the UK, literally only the motorways. So to stay safe you need a bike that can handle corners with ease.

@altortugas5979 3 года назад

Welcome back, brother! When the 1100 is available over there, you will not be disappointed. The thrills on this bike give me chills. And when I want to take it easy, it’s comfortable and in command!

@callefalk4457 3 года назад

WTF?????

@TheSuperhemp Год назад

As a proud and loud cruiser rider, and Harley owner, the rebel is a very very interesting bike. I really want to test ride one. I love my street bob. I really really do. But there's something about knowing I could easily put a bagillion miles on that Honda and still ride comfortably and relaxed that just speaks to my soul.

@artiecisneros4691 2 года назад

I bought my first bike in 1990 and was a used Honda shadow 650 or 750 don't quite remember but after less than a week, I took it back because it felt like a tank. They put me on a new Yamaha 1990 Virago 1100 and instantly was the bike for me, it was like driving a sports car. I was in the bike instead of on the bike, huge difference for me. I found someone to make forward controls and I lowered the seat, different pipes, raised the bars an inch, different blinkers and mirrors and also eliminated some weight. Wow! and the Rebel 1100 without haven't ridden it, reminds me of the Virago. Who cares what other people are riding, as long as you're happy? Just have to figure out how to afford on, in the meantime, I'll enjoy the RE Meteor350. Thank you both for the great comparison.😎

@MissyMalaprop 3 года назад

The Rebel basically is a modern cruiser. While the Scout may be built today, there is very little modern about it. Its old fashioned, which some people love... and I hate. I took the Rebel quick and never looked back. Love new tech and improvements... heritage is for people who live with nostalgia for yesterday.

@larrywade9041 3 года назад

Damm right about your last sentence. I'm almost 70y.o. & if I could get in a time machine, I'd be instantly back to the 60's & 70's. This time suck's compared to yesturyear & if you could get in a time machine & go back, you might wish to stay also. Of course everything would have to be worked for & not all of the socialist handouts of nowaday's!!!!!!!

@pauls3696 Год назад

Agree your spot on with that comment the Rebel is the next gen cruiser it's updated

@TheScrtaznman 3 года назад

I'd like to hear the yammie crew commentary on a kick-start classic.

@LifeTrod 2 года назад

Here for "Effervescent". First time hearing that word being connected to a bike lol. I dig the vid yall. Nice channel.

@miporsche 3 года назад

Great video! I've been curious about both of those, as a former 1st gen Magna owner, I'm trying to decide what modern equivalent to buy. It's like comparing a Rolex with Grand Seiko, or a Corvette with a Carrera, or a malt with a blizzard. Both good. I guess I'll pick one.

@stevecoombs203 3 года назад

Funny how all Americans are comparing it to other cruisers with v twins, try comparing it to a triumph bobber, come on my American cousins get with the programme🤷🏼‍♂️

@coldmoonlight6361 3 года назад

Two days later, RU-vid decided it should notify me that you posted this video.

@tarnishedsquid2967 3 года назад

My dad has a triumph bobber black, thing honestly surprised me in the twisties.

@Oldman_Taylor 3 года назад

Yes, got the looks. Got the Tech. Sporter than any cruiser, more comfortable then any sports bike. Checks all the boxes, except looks like crap with luggage and a windscreen.

@callefalk4457 3 года назад

WTF???

@kdgblue82 2 года назад

My great great grandpa owned the only Indian shop between Cali and Canada, love those older cruisers

@RickyBobber 3 года назад

Loving my new Scout Bobber. Thanks guys for some of the info that helped me make my choice. Also motovlogging with it

@Pikakshrox 3 года назад

for scout if in gear and clutch is pulled in and the bike doesn't start then there could be a issue with how clutch cable is set. Happened with my scout

@punkrockdidi 3 года назад

Episode name: 3 beauty's and a Spite 😅

@awesomeerr8765 3 года назад

Someone needs to flash the rebel. Its heavily restricted. It won't go past 100. When the engine can easily go 120.

@feloniousmonk3049 Год назад

not with 4" of suspension travel.... 100 mph isn't cruising, that's racing speed.

@paulvelez9688 3 года назад

I feel like if the Indian is a heritage cruiser, then the rebel would be a Neo cruiser. And if the rebel copied the sportsters answers to the test, then it got a higher score.

@danrib4048 3 года назад

I think you nailed it on the term “Neo Cruiser”. A new category would be born, if other companies followed the Honda Rebel’s footsteps

@StirbMensch 3 года назад

@@danrib4048 if you come to think of it, Honda have been offering an alternative to traditional cruisers since the Magna... FIERCE machine, that is!

@r.i.p2464 3 года назад

Paul Velez honda didn't copy the sportsters answer to the test, its a different bike. Yamaha is the one who copied the sportster. Vtwin, air-cooled, same minimalistic approach with not much technology. This bike went on a different route and the only thing cruiser in it is the looks and riding position.

@paulvelez9688 3 года назад

@@StirbMensch that late 90’s second gen Magna is a bucket list carbed bike for me.

@altortugas5979 3 года назад

I like that, “neo-cruiser.” The Rebel 1100 is definitely a cruiser for the new school.

@DannySword21 2 года назад

New rider, love technology, scare of the 1100 engine as a newby but like the fact I will not change the 🏍 soon, plus Honda’s reliability I decided for the rebel 1100 for my birthday last week , happy with it, learning every day my limitations using my protective gear, you guys are awesome with the reviews. My wife wants one too!!

@BrandonWest87 2 года назад

Love it! Hope you’ve got miles of smiles under your belt in the 10 months since your comment. Ride safe man!

@shipdriver9314 3 года назад

With the ultra-subtle 1100 badging, I can see a lot people asking "Oh, you've got a Rebel 500?" They probably should have differentiated its styling a little more. Although it is very solid feeling, it is still more plasticky than any cruiser outside of the Vulcan S.

@Fearless154 3 года назад

That's like saying if you roll on with your r1 people will say "oh you're on r3?" rebel 1100 is much bulkier and bigger than rebel 500. You can't really mistake between them if you see it in person. When I was riding my buddy's rebel 1100 most of the people who knew what rebel is were saying "is that the new 1100? cool.."

@altortugas5979 3 года назад

You got it right in, Newman. Guy trailering a Harley at a gas station said to me, “That’s a Rebel?” You never mistake it for a 500, and the style is so striking it takes people by surprise.

@callefalk4457 3 года назад

WTF?????

@CMBDIA 3 года назад

this is such a hard choice. i like the looks of the scout but the honda has so many modern features that i want.

@Darvin-Hams-burner-account 2 года назад

Same proble I have. Scout has that americana beefy look, but the Rebel has the best quality and price

@mikeb.2166 3 года назад

I have always thought that Scout looks great with the perfect amount to chrome accents but i wish they made a higher level with better components as cheaping out on tires and suspension is very lame. Also I like a lower profile front tire (like the Rebel) and ideally a bit less heft overall. That said, the Honda looks great and I'd like to ride it one day, but I wish it had just a little bit of color as it looks so dark that I feel it lacks personality. I hope to see both evolve a bit for next model year. As always, thanks for the video.

@johntheaccountant5594 3 года назад

Everyone is going bonkers about the Honda Rebel 1100. I start to think the Honda Rebel 500 looks exactly the same, is well adequate, can do nearly everything the 1100 does. The Rebel 500 is a lot cheaper, less complicated and therefore cheaper to maintain and service.

@richardcasey7521 3 года назад

You two hardly went faster than 40 mph, so how can you really even evaluate either of them? I would want to know how they feel at 80mph! I’m interested in seeing what a Rebel might look like with a nicer looking chrome exhaust and chrome trimmed rear fender support rails. An accessory seat on the Rebel to accommodate a taller rider would make it even nicer. I would like a chrome headlight trim ring too.

@dakotahfogle5873 3 года назад

Chrome is dead.

@sli8462 3 года назад

Gonna stop you at chrome

@justinneilson1263 2 года назад

@@sli8462 nerds hating on chrome for no reason

@bennytuomolin4416 2 года назад

Well, I traded my Scout from 2015 for a Rebel 1100 DCT. I do enjoy the Honda, it’s definitely more “refined”. And great in the twisties.

@bc3nt 3 года назад

The chief dark horse with ride command seems to be the answer to having heritage with top notch tech

@teddy3967 3 года назад

It also costs more than twice as much as the honda rebel 1100 and has less power

@bc3nt 3 года назад

@@teddy3967 ill take the dark horse's 120 ft lbs of torque

@teddy3967 3 года назад

@@bc3nt Id take the rebel and save the other 9k+ for another bike

@altortugas5979 3 года назад

This guy Teddy, facts.

@callefalk4457 3 года назад

WTF??

@nelsonphilip4520 3 месяца назад

Since my 21 year-old-son just bought his dream bike, a left-over 2023 Scout Bobber, I have been getting a lot of Scout critique & comparisons and this presentation made some very good points. One of those points which I had not considered here-to-for, was that Honda, with the minimalist styling of the Rebel, is more or less targeting the H-D Sportster. The Scout on the other hand, has a more polished aesthetic & style than either the Rebel or the (now defunct) Sportster. Feature wise I think the Rebel is the better value. The Scout styling, however, is the hands down winner! As I write this I can't help thinking that perhaps the Scout's "heritage" actually comes from a Honda itself. When I look at my son's Scout I think of my own first bike; 1983 Nighthawk 650. And upon further reflection i think of the 1987/88 Honda Magna. With it's V-4 16 DOHC 16 valve motor and it's bold custom (bobber??) styling, it may be fair to say that Honda has "been there; done that" !

@milrond6943 3 года назад

what is the discord info? i cant find it anywhere and ive been lurking for many years in the yammy community and i think its finally time to chat with humans about bikes

@dalekidd420 3 года назад

Don't forget that the Scout's parts list was specifically set up to come in at a very specific price point, while still having that heritage look and feel. Sure, Indian COULD have put high-end components on it, but then instead of competing with the Sportster, it would have been competing with the Softail Standard. And Indian has now made the jump to take on THAT battle with the new Chief. If you want to upgrade the Scout's suspension, rubber, etc., you can. And I think a version of the Scout with some upgraded electronics may be in the offing in another year, given that the new electronics package on the Chief looks like it should be supremely adaptable to the Scout platform.

@bradprather6749 2 года назад

Great Video. Lifelong Harley guy here. I really want a Rebel, can't wait. At 66 years young I want dependability.

@jamesstone1493 2 года назад

You asked for a 1945 Motorcycle in 2020’s and it shows how much technology has changed in last 70 years and start to appreciate the changes in technology from all these years of improvement!!!!!

@nunezski54 2 года назад

Great video, all I have to say though… is I love my 2022 Rebel 😁

@jrwilliams6313 3 года назад

I think Honda is genius for allowing you to grow as a rider, all through the same platform. Take the MSF and get a Rebel 300 or 500, and then move up to the 1100. After that, if you still wanna go bigger, they have this thing called the GoldWing that I hear is pretty nifty. Ride a Vulcan S myself, and absolutely love it. I’m not a big guy and I’m pushing 60, so I’m not too thrilled with manhandling a big bike through corners (anymore). That Rebel 1100 has me very intrigued though, tbh. Great video.

@_OpdeeMist 3 года назад

I would love to see the same take comparing the Triumph Bobber and the Indian Scout Bobber... Nice take on bike reviews...👏👏👏🙏🙏🙏

@Oldman_Taylor 3 года назад

Spoiler - The Triumph is more like the Rebel. Turns much better, lighter, has all the tech. Also running a parallel twin. But, unlike the Rebel - stunning looks. The Scout has more power, and runs straight lines slow better. Its also more comfortable.

@callefalk4457 3 года назад

WTF????

@_OpdeeMist 3 года назад

@@callefalk4457 Yeah I know..... 🥴 . ........ It hardly makes me want to go see the movie now...... There’s always one.....😜🤣

@iforc 3 года назад

I’m not really a cruiser guy but how comfortable the rebel is just might convert me.

@pilkjaer 3 года назад

Heritage is about the looks. Chromed out HD estetic is not for everyone so Honda is doing the right thing. You want technology, reliability and classic look. Honda can deliver on all of them. Rebel is just a modern cruiser.

@Full_Otto_Bismarck 3 года назад

These days the "harley aesthetic" is actually blacked out with not much chrome to speak of.

@christopherstevens7590 3 года назад

I think the Rebel is for people who want something more comfortable than a sports bike, but doesn't want an adv. Someone who wants the big 4 quality and tech, vs "American Heritage". They're targeting a pretty specific niche, that's not necessarily your average cruiser rider. Whereas Indian is going for Harley's throat, through and through.

@peterwilson8039 3 года назад

I think the Rebel would be a great motorcycle, but I wouldn't be able to get past the cruiser look. Of course we all know that Honda has done the market research and they know who's going to buy this motorcycle and why.

@callefalk4457 3 года назад

WTF????

@Real_MisterSir 3 года назад

True, although I think the niche extends a bit further than that. A lot of people wouldn't mind owning a cruiser, but are not interested in paying the typical Harley/Indian premium for objectively worse bikes with poorer reliability and maintenance costs. They would ride a cruiser if it was made to the standards of any other 2021 street bike, and at a comparable pricetag. I'm such a guy myself. I love sportsbikes, adventure bikes also, used to ride a naked bike, yet I'm also drawn to cruisers. The only thing that has kept me from getting one thus far, is that the pricepoint and the overall compromises that most cruisers make in the name of "heritage" has just had such bad value in my eyes. Don't want a bike that weighs nearly as much as a small city car, with old (not heritage) performance and mechanical work. The Rebel is perfect because it deals with all the subjects that make most average riders stay clear of cruisers in general. It fixes all the areas where they usually compromise or fall victim to their own brand image shenanigans.

@IamRajanKhanna 3 года назад

Please make a video on RE meteor 350 as it has recently been launched in the US. I love watching your reviews and it would be interesting to see that is meteor trash or a good motorcycle(from your pov)?

@christianmccall4542 3 года назад

I'm gonna get a rebel 1100

@StuntTriple 3 года назад

Honda nailed it with a sporty bike with the cruiser look. I would ride the hell out of it in mountains

@dnice4431 3 года назад

My wife was looking for a new bike this year. She was upgrading from a buell blast 500 so she had no where to go but up. However we looked at the rebel 1100, the Indian scout AND everything made by Harley we hoped she would fit on. We saw the first rebel 1100 to hit Massachusetts and she was hoping to Fall in love with it because it’s thousands cheaper. However it looks cheaply made full of plastic where the Indian felt like home for her as soon as she sat on it. Add 10 in mini apes and Vance and Hines slash cuts and that thing is a bike I wanna ride! I had 0 interest in the Honda and neither did my wife. We bought a 2021 Indian scout bobber!

@sleeper.simulant7327 3 года назад

The Honda isn’t cheaply made though, it’s got name brand suspension and brakes, and in typical Honda fashion, the Honda feels tight in terms of fit and finish. It doesn’t feel like a piece of iron, or the heritage feel, that most cruiser people like. I love the feel of a sportster, but it needs a little bit of an upgrade to compete nowadays in the current market. I personally like the air cooled v twin, but that’s not what the market is looking for anymore...

@dnice4431 3 года назад

@@sleeper.simulant7327 ok first I said looks cheap with all the plastic bolted to it. Feels cheap when sat on. The suspension aside the rest of the bike did nothing for us. 2nd. You're wrong THOUSANDS of riders still looking for air cooled vtwin classic harley machines. However the scout isn't air cooled. Its liquid cooled. Its not a performance cruiser. Its a classic cruiser. There is a huge market for it and indian sold ridiculous numbers this spring already. I love many honda motorcycles. This one is just not one of em.

@sleeper.simulant7327 3 года назад

@@dnice4431 the guys looking at air cooled cruisers aren’t buying sportsters, they’re spending a lot more on Harley soft tails or an Indian Chief..... the sportsters specific class is eons ahead in terms of tech. Again I prefer an air cooled engine myself, and out of the 3 I prefer the feel of the sportster. Suspension definitely is important if you’re like me and live in the north northeast mountains where the roads are curvy and addled with pot holes.

@dnice4431 3 года назад

@@sleeper.simulant7327 I am actually. No mountains. But I'm in Massachusetts. No stock suspension on cruisers at least usually do well. I upgrade mine to good stuff. Legends or ohlins

@sleeper.simulant7327 3 года назад

@@dnice4431 I live in the NEK of Vermont. Roads are trashed up here but there’s some good ones here and there

@punk078910 3 года назад

Feels like the rebel is more like a modern ujm with a hint of cruiser vs the scout which is just cruiser

@rickstark1917 2 года назад

I think I’ve decided on a Rebel 1100 as my next bike. I have a Rebel 500 now but will be moving up soon. ( I also love the Yamaha XSR 700, but need to test ride it before I decide).

@COB506 3 года назад

To me, the rebel definitely has my attention because I'd like a naked bike say like an MT-07, but I know for a fact that it will get me in trouble (I like speed and wheelies). I love a cruiser bike for the style, the sound and for the fact that I can't get as crazy on it. The Honda is modern, playful, looks awesome, is light. Just seems like a bike you can hop on anytime and go for a rip! 💯

@pauls3696 Год назад

Agree 👍

@ronniebrits938 3 года назад

Great Video as always. Can you maybe sell 1Down 5Up keychains on your merch store i would love to have one for my bike. :)

@turtlerides 3 года назад

Some canadian eBay seller has them. I bought one a month ago.

@callefalk4457 3 года назад

WTF????

@jalzate 9 месяцев назад

Honda had the magna in 1982. It was a V4 engine in s cruiser frame, similar in looks to the first generation shadows but obviously a different kind of ride with having 2 parallel cylinders and another 2 parallel cylinders at a 90 degree angle in a high revolution engine. It sounded more like a sports bike and ran like a sports bike, with the Magna 1100 being the fastest production motorcycle when it first came out. In fact the same engine was used in the Sabre (a standard bike) and the interceptor (a sports bike) In a way this bike is kinda a similar kind of thing, something outside the box I've ridden the 1100 DCT and i think my dream bike would be the manual version with the added passenger kit, backrest and a small wind shield. Btw my first bike was a weird Korean cruiser with a 125 cc single cylinder engine back in 1994, a Hyosung Cruise 125. Then i had the Magna 750, and i currently ride a Shadow 750.